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[QUOTE=Lobsid;6006691][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ae0bed4-b7aa-4919-9fc8-2edd8816dab8[/URL]

Had a date with her last week and she cancelled last min. This week she ghosted me. Anyone have any luck with her? I know she real, because of Snapchat. I'm not wasting anymore of my time I have other 18-19 years old SBs that I have no time for.[/QUOTE]Wants 700/800 now. Turned down 500. Interesting response when I suggested playing the long game would ensure more perks and that there are plenty of options available.

"ok I'm not desperate for money I'm a beautiful women, they couldn't be at my level my sugar daddy knows and he's 23 😂 I'm good bye".

Shock face that she ghosted you LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ae0bed4-b7aa-4919-9fc8-2edd8816dab8[/URL]

Sorry, was planning to do an update, but been busy at work. I finally meetup with her a few weeks ago. Was asking for 600 and agree with BBFS. She hot and pics are accurate. I pick her up from Gaithersburg MD. Took her to the hotel. Had a few drinks and some making out. Then she ask for the money 1st before any real action. I said only after the deed, but I showed her the money and put it in the hotel safe. She wasn't having it and left. Funny I left hotel 5 minutes after her and she was gone. I think she had a ride waiting for her outside. She was insistent that I get a hotel close to Rio lake. Just be careful guys, she most likely a grab and dash.

[QUOTE=Mandane;6107092]Wants 700/800 now. Turned down 500. Interesting response when I suggested playing the long game would ensure more perks and that there are plenty of options available.

"ok I'm not desperate for money I'm a beautiful women, they couldn't be at my level my sugar daddy knows and he's 23 😂 I'm good bye".

Shock face that she ghosted you LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;6107351][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ae0bed4-b7aa-4919-9fc8-2edd8816dab8[/URL]

Sorry, was planning to do an update, but been busy at work. I finally meetup with her a few weeks ago. Was asking for 600 and agree with BBFS. She hot and pics are accurate. I pick her up from Gaithersburg MD. Took her to the hotel. Had a few drinks and some making out. Then she ask for the money 1st before any real action. I said only after the deed, but I showed her the money and put it in the hotel safe. She wasn't having it and left. Funny I left hotel 5 minutes after her and she was gone. I think she had a ride waiting for her outside. She was insistent that I get a hotel close to Rio lake. Just be careful guys, she most likely a grab and dash.[/QUOTE]I've met a few girls who are brave enough scammers to try it in person.

One of them was particularly clever. Asked to bring her friend to the dinner M&G since she was a little nervous, and I agreed under the condition that her friend shouldn't expect anything. We'll call them A and B. They show up, both are beautiful latin or mixed light skinned girls. We have dinner, they're both very articulate and nice to converse with. We eventually discuss the arrangement, nothing has been talked about up to then in texts. They set and amount that while high, was within my expectations given how good they looked. Same number for both of them.

We got a hotel, and when we get in they order a couple cocktails from room service and sit and chat a bit. They ask for the money, and I give it to them since WTF, they're literally in the room already, no way they would leave then right? A jumps in the shower, and later comes out wrapped in a towel. They ask me to jump in too, and B comes into the bathroom but stays clothed, scrubbing me and playing with the junk. After a couple minutes, her friend outside says something I couldn't hear, and B says A told her to come get her drink and finish it before B drinks both of them, and she tells me she'll be right back with a laugh. I continue showering.

About 30 seconds later, B still isn't back, and then a cold chill sets my stomach. I rush to finish rinsing off and open the bathroom door, and the room door is stuck open with a towel in the doorway so it doesn't slam and make a sound. These girls planned out the cash and dash perfectly. A showered first so they could grab a towel from the bathroom without me getting suspicious, then they ask me to shower to get me in a position where it's hard for me to chase them, they give the signal to skeedaddle and stuff the towel under the door so I don't hear anything. Plan only works with 2 girls, and I later found out they were professional thieves, didn't even live near DC, just drive around posting SA and escort ads and scamming dudes.

Another girl was alone and did it the dumb way which only works on nice guys like me. She gets into the hotel room after dinner, and says she's nervous so can she please get the money first. I Cashapp her, and then try to start touching her on the couch. She makes an excuse about being nervous, can she get some wine from the bar? I told her we just came from the restaurant, why didn't she drink there LOL. She insists and keeps asking gently, not forcefully. Finally I relent and take her downstairs. The hotel didn't have a bar, so we go to the 24 H snack and drink place next to front desk and she grabs some drinks and a snack. Then she makes some excuse about having left her sweater in her car, can she run and go get it. At this point I'm on to the gig so I tell her no, we need to go back upstairs. She resists and just sits in the lobby, eating her snacks. I argue with her for 5 min before deciding it's a lost cause, and go back to my room to grab my jacket to leave. She of course doesn't follow. I come back down, and she's nowhere to be seen, so I go to my car in the parking lot. I drive to the exit, and lo and behold she's stuck because she doesn't have the key card to leave, so she's trying to use the intercom. I leave my car and walk up to hers, and she's filming me from inside her car. I tell her she's pathetic, but I need her to move otherwise I can't get out. She refuses, and I eventually have to let her out with my keycard. She waits right outside the barrier until it swings down, then floors it and leaves skid marks speeding away, hoping to get far enough that I can't follow her after I get myself out of the parking lot. I just drive home.

This girl put herself in many really bad spots if I was a criminal or bad dude. I could have ripped her bag away from her in the hotel room, taking away any access to tasers or pepperspray inside, and told her she's getting fucked tonight or she's not going home. Even as a bluff, little girl in a room alone with a man and no way to defend herself, things could have ended badly for her. She's the type of hooker you see end up on the news getting murdered and left in the bathtub.

I see many of you guys post about going straight to the hotel, even with new babies for the first meet. Some of you talk about getting some quick drinks before going to the room, but I've never seen anyone talking about actually going on dates with SB's. Dinner, drinks, doing something fun in DC, etc.

I do wine and dine, am I the minority here? I feel like all the SB's I've successfully fucked would've flaked out if I just had them come directly to a hotel. Most SB's I go on a platonic M&G first for no allowance, usually a dinner date. If that goes well, then we might decide to go back to a hotel, or many times they just go home and we set up a fuckdate for another day.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6107532]I see many of you guys post about going straight to the hotel, even with new babies for the first meet. Some of you talk about getting some quick drinks before going to the room, but I've never seen anyone talking about actually going on dates with SB's. Dinner, drinks, doing something fun in DC, etc.

I do wine and dine, am I the minority here? I feel like all the SB's I've successfully fucked would've flaked out if I just had them come directly to a hotel. Most SB's I go on a platonic M&G first for no allowance, usually a dinner date. If that goes well, then we might decide to go back to a hotel, or many times they just go home and we set up a fuckdate for another day.[/QUOTE]Unless I know from someone who; s experienced with her I would not go straight to room. Even if I know she's DTF, I will at least meet for a drink if I can. For that reason I rarely do this near where I live. I like to feel the vibe.

So a couple weeks ago I get a chick that won't go to text. Only going through the website. She's talking about PPM on the site. I'm keeping my workding vague but agree that "if we click" and she's open to intimacy I'd consider. We agree to meet near my office for lunch. I ask if I should book a day use. She says she typically doesn; t hook up on the first meeting. I say "if we agree its only a meet and greet I'm fine" Shows up we have a good time. On the way out she says "I'll send you my cashapp" . She texts it to me and I tell her "this was a meet and greet. I really dig her so if she's not just scamming I'll give her the full amount for it spread over a few meets. " That was the last I heard from her.

Unemployed, working on her escorting website.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0a936ded-002f-407d-bfdc-3efbd38f772e[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6107532]I see many of you guys post about going straight to the hotel, even with new babies for the first meet. Some of you talk about getting some quick drinks before going to the room, but I've never seen anyone talking about actually going on dates with SB's. Dinner, drinks, doing something fun in DC, etc.

I do wine and dine, am I the minority here? I feel like all the SB's I've successfully fucked would've flaked out if I just had them come directly to a hotel. Most SB's I go on a platonic M&G first for no allowance, usually a dinner date. If that goes well, then we might decide to go back to a hotel, or many times they just go home and we set up a fuckdate for another day.[/QUOTE]I prefer the same approach as you. Meet for dinner and drinks, I treat, and no expectation of a M&G gift. Sometimes we've gone from there to my hotel, sometimes we set up a date for another time, and a couple times we parted ways and never got in touch again. I enjoy the date aspect, just coming straight to my room is too transactional.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6107532]I see many of you guys post about going straight to the hotel, even with new babies for the first meet. Some of you talk about getting some quick drinks before going to the room, but I've never seen anyone talking about actually going on dates with SB's. Dinner, drinks, doing something fun in DC, etc.

I do wine and dine, am I the minority here? I feel like all the SB's I've successfully fucked would've flaked out if I just had them come directly to a hotel. Most SB's I go on a platonic M&G first for no allowance, usually a dinner date. If that goes well, then we might decide to go back to a hotel, or many times they just go home and we set up a fuckdate for another day.[/QUOTE]I've met one maybe two ever for a drink first. Never taken one to dinner. But other than that I've met them all directly in the room. Now I always bring a bottle of wine or liquor and we chill for a while over a couple drinks and get to know one another before jumping into bed. But that's my method that's worked great for me for the past 3-4 yrs. Using that method I've only ever had once a gal decide she wasn't interested and left.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;6108044]I prefer the same approach as you. Meet for dinner and drinks, I treat, and no expectation of a M&G gift. Sometimes we've gone from there to my hotel, sometimes we set up a date for another time, and a couple times we parted ways and never got in touch again. I enjoy the date aspect, just coming straight to my room is too transactional.[/QUOTE]For dinner, I've learned my lesson that you never let them pick on the first date. Nothing worse than be stuck with a big bill for someone that has no intentions of taking it anywhere with anyone. Try to meet and eat at the bar so it can end quickly if its going bad.

I also had a girl pick a place and I'm 100% cerrtain it was her friend wating on us.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/919ae24b-0d46-496e-99ac-9001605b593f[/URL]

Might be a real person, all the info I was given seemed to check out to the person they claimed to be. That said, she had no intentions of meeting. Only one reply on the site, which was her number. Small talks for a little bit and then drops a OF-like menu on you. When I said I only meet, s kept agreeing to meet, even setting time and place, but would follow it up with needing some amount of cash for rent, flat tire, you name it.

Play it smart and approach each SB in a manner that makes them most comfortable.

-I have a 2+ year SB that has young kids. We will occasionally do lunch, but mostly she wants to have a few drinks, get banged, get paid and go home.

-Ivy league trained attorney likes high end restaurants. But then we go back to her place and have almost unlimited free time. She will occasionally cook as well.

-I've had SB's where the arrangement began with lunch / dinner dates every time and then it changed into meet me at the hotel.

I think most SB's want (in this order): 1) cash, 2) great sex, and 3) to be treated nicely and with respect.

[QUOTE=BDM1227;6108145]For dinner, I've learned my lesson that you never let them pick on the first date. Nothing worse than be stuck with a big bill for someone that has no intentions of taking it anywhere with anyone. Try to meet and eat at the bar so it can end quickly if its going bad.

I also had a girl pick a place and I'm 100% cerrtain it was her friend wating on us.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6108332]Play it smart and approach each SB in a manner that makes them most comfortable.

-I have a 2+ year SB that has young kids. We will occasionally do lunch, but mostly she wants to have a few drinks, get banged, get paid and go home.

-Ivy league trained attorney likes high end restaurants. But then we go back to her place and have almost unlimited free time. She will occasionally cook as well.

-I've had SB's where the arrangement began with lunch / dinner dates every time and then it changed into meet me at the hotel.

I think most SB's want (in this order): 1) cash, 2) great sex, and 3) to be treated nicely and with respect.[/QUOTE]They want #3 first -- so many get scared off by creeps, being treated like a piece of meat etc. IF you deliver on #3 first, then #1 can be lower and #2 is more likely for you.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8b3c4b59-0079-4501-bbbc-fc51a9300a56[/URL]

Curious. All the pics are damn near photo shoot quality. Did a Reversee check on a few pics. One came up as a cover photo for some site offering adult WhatsApp convos.

What has me suspicious was a very poorly worded text response seeming to imply she wants some cash up front.

It's a new profile so just seeing if anyone else has reached out to her and what the deal is with her.

[QUOTE=BobDingle10;6108916][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8b3c4b59-0079-4501-bbbc-fc51a9300a56[/URL]

Curious. All the pics are damn near photo shoot quality. Did a Reversee check on a few pics. One came up as a cover photo for some site offering adult WhatsApp convos.

What has me suspicious was a very poorly worded text response seeming to imply she wants some cash up front.

It's a new profile so just seeing if anyone else has reached out to her and what the deal is with her.[/QUOTE]She sent me the same thing. I blocked and reported.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;6108127]I've met one maybe two ever for a drink first. Never taken one to dinner. But other than that I've met them all directly in the room. Now I always bring a bottle of wine or liquor and we chill for a while over a couple drinks and get to know one another before jumping into bed. But that's my method that's worked great for me for the past 3-4 yrs. Using that method I've only ever had once a gal decide she wasn't interested and left.[/QUOTE]This reinforces my suspicion that you're a good looking dude LOL. Girls want to go straight to your hotel room without even meeting you, not knowing if you could be a creep or have terrible BO or something. You also said most of us are suckers for paying $500, there's plenty of young 8-9's willing to do it for 250-350. I really don't think that's most people's result on SA.

[QUOTE=BDM1227;6108145]For dinner, I've learned my lesson that you never let them pick on the first date. Nothing worse than be stuck with a big bill for someone that has no intentions of taking it anywhere with anyone. Try to meet and eat at the bar so it can end quickly if its going bad.

I also had a girl pick a place and I'm 100% cerrtain it was her friend wating on us.[/QUOTE]I like fine dining myself. I'd never take a girl to Applebees to save a few bucks because why the fuck would I eat there? Also young girls weighing 120 pounds don't eat a lot. I've never had one that can split an appetizer, eat their entrée and side, and split a dessert with me. They always get full halfway. Most of the time they don't even want the dessert in the end.

Taking a girl to Eddie V's in Tysons may add an extra 75-100 to my bill, but that's nothing to me.

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6108332]Play it smart and approach each SB in a manner that makes them most comfortable.

-I have a 2+ year SB that has young kids. We will occasionally do lunch, but mostly she wants to have a few drinks, get banged, get paid and go home.

-Ivy league trained attorney likes high end restaurants. But then we go back to her place and have almost unlimited free time. She will occasionally cook as well.

-I've had SB's where the arrangement began with lunch / dinner dates every time and then it changed into meet me at the hotel.

I think most SB's want (in this order): 1) cash, 2) great sex, and 3) to be treated nicely and with respect.[/QUOTE]The only girls I've had go from dinner dates to just hotel are ones that are annoying as fuck, and the only thing I want them to to is shut up and spread their legs LOL. The ones with decent personalities, I've never treated like a fucktoy.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6108651]They want #3 first -- so many get scared off by creeps, being treated like a piece of meat etc. IF you deliver on #3 first, then #1 can be lower and #2 is more likely for you.[/QUOTE]Respect only gets you in the door, it's like the bare minimum to even start talking allowance and sex. Unless you look like TomFord and Dimples, Tom can apparently just tell a girl he wants to fuck her and she's down based on the text screenshots he posted.

After you're in the door, it's money and looks. Last is probably sexual ability. After all, you all bang young girls, how many have told you about dating a young hot dude who was terrible in bed? Yet, the girl still dated them, and would date someone like them / fuck them again if they had the chance. Hell, our SB's probably have a FWB that fits the exact description right now LOL.