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[QUOTE=Max#01;6079540][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c08af8de-143b-42f9-bf3f-0722b0d6516f[/URL]

Wow. I just pulled up her profile. It's hard to tell if she is really in a wheelchair other than the background in her pictures suggests she is low to the floor and not standing up. She's holding the phone so she's a paraplegic at worst and not a quadriplegic.

I grew up in the barely post-Vietnam generation and I remember the profound effect I felt from watching the oral sex scene between Jon Voight and Jane Fonda in "Coming Home". Jon Voight, as a paraplegic, couldn't have an erection. Instead, he went down on Jane Fonda (Well, her body double.) until she came. That scene gave me chills back in the 70's.

If Mauvqueen is real and indeed is a paraplegic, providing her pleasure that "civilian" guys won't do would be an awesome experience. If she's real, I hope she finds what she's looking for.[/QUOTE]If she's being truthful I truly feel for her. Most people on SA want something uncomplicated so I hope everyone treats her gently. I can't put myself in that situation.

[URL]https://onlyfans.com/sabrinavalxx[/URL]

Girl is on SA, also pornstar and has OF, linked above. Hit her up on SA, started texting when she randomly tells me she's not interested anymore.

Sub to her OF and hit her up again, she gets around to texting and I use a different number. This time she asks for $100 to show I'm serious and she'll come to DC. I tell her I can't, been scammed before, but I can buy her stuff on OF if she likes. She says nope, not how that works, sorry. I tell her we can work it out, how much will it take to make a DC trip worthwhile or I can visit her. She says sorry, you don't play by my rules so no go.

Pretty sure she exclusively scams now, no actual arrangements or escorting.

WTF. SA is a dumping ground now. I just logged in after 3 months and it's like a damn okcupid trash. A bunch of poor trashy chicks that gives me the vibe I'd be rob or old busted chicks.

Maybe 5% are decent and those sluts probably are all used up.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6079609][URL]https://onlyfans.com/sabrinavalxx[/URL]

Girl is on SA, also pornstar and has OF, linked above. Hit her up on SA, started texting when she randomly tells me she's not interested anymore.

Sub to her OF and hit her up again, she gets around to texting and I use a different number. This time she asks for $100 to show I'm serious and she'll come to DC. I tell her I can't, been scammed before, but I can buy her stuff on OF if she likes. She says nope, not how that works, sorry. I tell her we can work it out, how much will it take to make a DC trip worthwhile or I can visit her. She says sorry, you don't play by my rules so no go.

Pretty sure she exclusively scams now, no actual arrangements or escorting.[/QUOTE]There are some posts about her on <RichmondEscorts / Sugar Babies That Have Done Or Currently Do Porn .

[QUOTE=Max#01;6079540][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c08af8de-143b-42f9-bf3f-0722b0d6516f[/URL]
If Mauvqueen is real and indeed is a paraplegic, providing her pleasure that "civilian" guys won't do would be an awesome experience. If she's real, I hope she finds what she's looking for.[/QUOTE]Is the sugar scene really a good idea for severely disabled girls? The theme of the game is affluent men connecting with beautiful young women (and yes I understand the definition of beauty varies). I am 100% on board with the realization that people with disabilities should have equal opportunity with regard to finding happiness, love, and an otherwise fulfilling life. I would even go so far as to say that (not including SBs) I like and support the idea of going the extra mile to help the less fortunate overcome their issues (including physical disabilities). But I am not on board with the idea that every facet of life needs to be modified in order to accommodate every group of people. There is something to be said for the efficiency of consistency when shopping around (for anything, including sex partners) on a website so I would rather not have extreme measures of variation when searching through SB profiles.

In other words I think if someone is wheelchair bound, I don't think SA is the really the ideal venue for them. Diversity and inclusion can really get carried away at times and I don't think that sugaring needs to be subject to the politically correct movement or has a moral duty to be inclusive to all types of girls (or guys that wish they were girls etc). I'm not knocking her right to advertise herself on SA, I'm just advocating my right to the opinion that it's not the right website for girls with disabilities to find happiness.

Granted, if the websites want to add a "physical disability" filter so that I can filter out such situations in my search, then my perspective on the matter might be adjusted slightly, but the first issue there is it would require SBs to always be honest (LOL) for it to be effective, and no doubt it would probably open up all sorts of potential PR or legal problems for the sites as I'm sure the metoo movement would label it a built in discrimination mechanism or something similar.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6079609][URL]https://onlyfans.com/sabrinavalxx[/URL]

Girl is on SA, also pornstar and has OF, linked above. Hit her up on SA, started texting when she randomly tells me she's not interested anymore.

Sub to her OF and hit her up again, she gets around to texting and I use a different number. This time she asks for $100 to show I'm serious and she'll come to DC. I tell her I can't, been scammed before, but I can buy her stuff on OF if she likes. She says nope, not how that works, sorry. I tell her we can work it out, how much will it take to make a DC trip worthwhile or I can visit her. She says sorry, you don't play by my rules so no go.

Pretty sure she exclusively scams now, no actual arrangements or escorting.[/QUOTE]Met her several times over the years, before she got into porn and after. She lives in Roanoke and strongly prefers to host. My guess is that she is still getting plenty of business going to her that she just isn't interested in driving 3 hours each way for a meetup.

[QUOTE=ErkTheOne;6079930]Met her several times over the years, before she got into porn and after. She lives in Roanoke and strongly prefers to host. My guess is that she is still getting plenty of business going to her that she just isn't interested in driving 3 hours each way for a meetup.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't doubt that she has plenty of business, look at that body. Problem is, on SA I offered to come down to her and we were talking about it when she suddenly says not interested. I wasn't haggling over rates or making things difficult or asking for pics or anything.

On OF after we start texting using my 2nd number, she just asks for the $100 cashapp. No mention of any other way, or that if I didn't want to pay I could come down to her, etc.

There are reports from other users about being scammed for a few hundred, or even less. When was the last time you saw her? Maybe she changed.

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6079923]Is the sugar scene really a good idea for severely disabled girls? The theme of the game is affluent men connecting with beautiful young women (and yes I understand the definition of beauty varies). I am 100% on board with the realization that people with disabilities should have equal opportunity with regard to finding happiness, love, and an otherwise fulfilling life. I would even go so far as to say that (not including SBs) I like and support the idea of going the extra mile to help the less fortunate overcome their issues (including physical disabilities). But I am not on board with the idea that every facet of life needs to be modified in order to accommodate every group of people. There is something to be said for the efficiency of consistency when shopping around (for anything, including sex partners) on a website so I would rather not have extreme measures of variation when searching through SB profiles.

In other words I think if someone is wheelchair bound, I don't think SA is the really the ideal venue for them. Diversity and inclusion can really get carried away at times and I don't think that sugaring needs to be subject to the politically correct movement or has a moral duty to be inclusive to all types of girls (or guys that wish they were girls etc). I'm not knocking her right to advertise herself on SA, I'm just advocating my right to the opinion that it's not the right website for girls with disabilities to find happiness.

Granted, if the websites want to add a "physical disability" filter so that I can filter out such situations in my search, then my perspective on the matter might be adjusted slightly, but the first issue there is it would require SBs to always be honest (LOL) for it to be effective, and no doubt it would probably open up all sorts of potential PR or legal problems for the sites as I'm sure the metoo movement would label it a built in discrimination mechanism or something similar.[/QUOTE]Not sure I understand the logic at all. I'm sure there are plenty of people on SA that you are not interested in for a whole variety of reasons, and that's fine if they are just not your cup of tea. That works the other way as well, each of us is not always each SB's cup of tea. But that doesn't mean that are not someone else's cup of tea, so why can't you simply move on to someone else and let them possibly find someone who is a good match for them.

[QUOTE=ErkTheOne;6079961]Not sure I understand the logic at all. I'm sure there are plenty of people on SA that you are not interested in for a whole variety of reasons, and that's fine if they are just not your cup of tea. That works the other way as well, each of us is not always each SB's cup of tea. But that doesn't mean that are not someone else's cup of tea, so why can't you simply move on to someone else and let them possibly find someone who is a good match for them.[/QUOTE]I just don't think all cup of teas should be aggregated into a single dating website. The SD / SB scene refers to a specific type of dating, and if an SB is wheelchair bound and only disclosing that after phone numbers have been exchanged and she's several messages into it, then someone's time is being wasted.

If someone is turned on by a wheelchair bound SB, why not hang out on one of the specialty dating sites or apps geared toward the disabled?

Just started messaging with her on the site so don't have much info yet. She kind of goes hot and cold on the site. Anyone have any info / experience?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bbec7c33-f215-46d9-8495-2a088981458f[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jost815;6080662]Just started messaging with her on the site so don't have much info yet. She kind of goes hot and cold on the site. Anyone have any info / experience?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bbec7c33-f215-46d9-8495-2a088981458f[/URL][/QUOTE]"Send me a gift on my wish list if you want to catch my attention😗 I get hundreds of messages on here and a lot of them I don't end up seeing. ".

You mean this one goes hot and cold.

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6079923]Is the sugar scene really a good idea for severely disabled girls? The theme of the game is affluent men connecting with beautiful young women (and yes I understand the definition of beauty varies). I am 100% on board with the realization that people with disabilities should have equal opportunity with regard to finding happiness, love, and an otherwise fulfilling life. I would even go so far as to say that (not including SBs) I like and support the idea of going the extra mile to help the less fortunate overcome their issues (including physical disabilities). But I am not on board with the idea that every facet of life needs to be modified in order to accommodate every group of people. There is something to be said for the efficiency of consistency when shopping around (for anything, including sex partners) on a website so I would rather not have extreme measures of variation when searching through SB profiles.

In other words I think if someone is wheelchair bound, I don't think SA is the really the ideal venue for them. Diversity and inclusion can really get carried away at times and I don't think that sugaring needs to be subject to the politically correct movement or has a moral duty to be inclusive to all types of girls (or guys that wish they were girls etc). I'm not knocking her right to advertise herself on SA, I'm just advocating my right to the opinion that it's not the right website for girls with disabilities to find happiness.

Granted, if the websites want to add a "physical disability" filter so that I can filter out such situations in my search, then my perspective on the matter might be adjusted slightly, but the first issue there is it would require SBs to always be honest (LOL) for it to be effective, and no doubt it would probably open up all sorts of potential PR or legal problems for the sites as I'm sure the metoo movement would label it a built in discrimination mechanism or something similar.[/QUOTE]But it's ok for 40 year olds to be on the site? Or obese chicks? Considering how many girls you have to message just to find someone who isn't a scam, time waster, or actually wants to connect with you, you're not wasting any extra time you wouldn't if you are so horrifically turned off by a wheelchair.

When I first got on SA back around 2014-15 one of the first dates I went on was a gorgeous Asian college girl who was deaf. She didn't tell me she was deaf until we were a few minutes into dinner. She was really good at reading lips and just had a slight speech impediment. But it was also one of the better girls I had in bed back then, too. It makes no difference, honestly. The girl in the wheelchair I wouldn't want to hook up with just because she's fat.

[QUOTE=NeedXtra;6072359]Has anyone seen this one and if so, can you please give your feedback?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1c7450e9-a8e1-4ead-8fe4-1e5e166ee8a8[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't do a lot of details since things tend to get back to the girls. But I can confirm as of tonight that she is the real deal.

[QUOTE=Dkayz;6081056]But it's ok for 40 year olds to be on the site? Or obese chicks? Considering how many girls you have to message just to find someone who isn't a scam, time waster, or actually wants to connect with you, you're not wasting any extra time you wouldn't if you are so horrifically turned off by a wheelchair.

When I first got on SA back around 2014-15 one of the first dates I went on was a gorgeous Asian college girl who was deaf. She didn't tell me she was deaf until we were a few minutes into dinner. She was really good at reading lips and just had a slight speech impediment. But it was also one of the better girls I had in bed back then, too. It makes no difference, honestly. The girl in the wheelchair I wouldn't want to hook up with just because she's fat.[/QUOTE]I don't think old ladies or fat girls are appropriate candidates for being an SB any more than broke guys living paycheck to paycheck with their parents qualify to be SDs. So I'm not singling out disabilities or any specific group here (or even limiting the idea to the females), it's just that the definition of fat vs. curvy for example becomes much harder to define than being disabled to the point of not being able to walk.

If someones disability is so slight that you wouldn't know until they told you (like the case of the deaf girl you mentioned), it would be nice if they mention that in their profile if its something that's going to affect verbal communication, but yes I think there is a threshold for which a mild disability becomes moot (maybe her speech is a bit off but her looks are off the charts and more than make up for it). The key there is disclosing in the profile. Is the disability such that being honest about it in the profile would result in a dramatic drop in interest? If so that's probably a sign dating should be relegated to sites that specifically cater to the need.

I would say the exact same thing about a girl who cannot speak English effectively. It may or may not be a turn off for me at all, but I should at least know about it before I invest any time pursuing. Fortunately, its not an issue because some of them communicate this to me up front by not including English at all in their profile (or at least I assume that's what they're trying to broadcast).

I also think that LGBT folks looking for non-traditional SB arrangements (meaning male daddy. Female sb) should have their own niche sites they stick to. I don't want to browse through "girls" guessing which ones have a dick and wish they didn't versus which ones are actual females.

[QUOTE=Dkayz;6081056]But it's ok for 40 year olds to be on the site? Or obese chicks?[/QUOTE]Why wouldn't it be ok? Particularly considering you can set an upper age limit when you search, and just uncheck the body types you don't care for.

But besides that, why should you get to decide the ideal body type for others?

From the SBs perspective, should the same apply to the SDs? Are you handsome, in perfect shape, and very wealthy?