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Called Lexi from Backpage and she started with a $.00 but the upsell at that point by say it depends how much more from there if you want me to dress up as I look in the new pics and that would be a extra $25. 00 to $75. 00. Never heard of a upcharge for just dressing up? If there are providers that charge extra please share with me why that would be extra? By any I just started to laugh and told her I would pass.

[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-pics-stunning-blonde-loves-to-satisfy-you-call-or-text-me-anytime-859-801-2766-28/8525642[/url]

Hey guys, just booked some time with a provider on the east side. Has uncle leo been patrolling there lately?

[QUOTE=Thorbane; 1493809]Called Lexi from Backpage and she started with a $.00 but the upsell at that point by say it depends how much more from there if you want me to dress up as I look in the new pics and that would be a extra $25. 00 to $75. 00. Never heard of a upcharge for just dressing up? If there are providers that charge extra please share with me why that would be extra? By any I just started to laugh and told her I would pass.

[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-pics-stunning-blonde-loves-to-satisfy-you-call-or-text-me-anytime-859-801-2766-28/8525642[/url][/QUOTE]But never for putting on makeup or an outfit that she already has.

So the question is are you paying for her to get makeup and hair done? (which I might understand if this were an escort doing something along the line of formal arm candy)

Followed by the second question, what does she actually look like without professional help?

[QUOTE=CameronB; 1492957]Epiphany. Now it all makes sense. If you think about it (especially after being a board member for at least a half year or so) you realize there aren't any flaws in WarlockKy's theory. Brilliant.

Cam.[/QUOTE]After 10+ years in the hobby you learn things about how LE operates in different cities and quite often departments hundreds of miles away will help each other out in somewhat non-traditional ways. To use a couple of examples, Salt Lake City PD actually taught a course for other departments on how to run stings against BP / CL girls and L'ville PD once had a fake escort service call Executive Encounters that they used for stings as well as providing references for other departments (the other department might be in say Florida and they would use an 502 AC burn phone. The ref would be along the line of "he's been a client for a long time and I heard he's down there on business / vacation").

So we all need to remember that just as the guys and the ladies network, LE does the exact same thing.

Is Petra D / D free? Just want to check, it seems like the board's gone quiet on her lately.

What did you just ask? Petra is clean, but are you? There seems to be several posts in the past that question you and could be why many providers have told me they will not see you at all (refer to post #1329 as a reference). I know for a fact she wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole!

Futhermore, Pet does not need to advertise (she does just to keep her name out there) as she has plenty of regulars that fill her schedule!

The fact that you question a proven providers gives me pause to question you!

WM.

[QUOTE=SpartanKY;1494118]Is Petra D / D free? Just want to check, it seems like the board's gone quiet on her lately.[/QUOTE]

Hey now, WM. Let's try to incite a flame war. I only ask because I did have a scare so I'm extra careful now.

In the future, I would appreciate an honest response, not an ad hominem attack. I know you're one of the most trusted posters on this board. I can tell by your posting style that you're probably a very masculine guy in real life, the sort of man who likes to protect women. And that's fine. But that is not an excuse for unnecessary personal attacks that do not even address the question.

[QUOTE=SpartanKY;1494118]Is Petra D / D free? Just want to check, it seems like the board's gone quiet on her lately.[/QUOTE]I heard she has cooties. Sorry, couldn't resist

[QUOTE=Easton 1269;1494367]I heard she has cooties. Sorry, couldn't resist[/QUOTE]Haha, thank you. Luckily, I was able to be immunized back in 5th grade. Circle circle, dot dot, I got my cooties shot.

Haha!

[QUOTE=WarlockKy; 1494076]But never for putting on makeup or an outfit that she already has.

So the question is are you paying for her to get makeup and hair done? (which I might understand if this were an escort doing something along the line of formal arm candy)

Followed by the second question, what does she actually look like without professional help?[/QUOTE]Yeah I would say your Paying for her hair, nails, makeup and whatever else she can think of done. Can't answer the second queston as I never seen her.

[QUOTE=SpartanKY;1494118]Is Petra D / D free? Just want to check, it seems like the board's gone quiet on her lately.[/QUOTE]SKY:

You just reviewed her and loved her, are you having "buyer's remorse"?

Petra is a great lady. Professional, sensual and talented, what made you post this question?

Are you going to post another like it about SaraTT? She has "gone quiet" because she doesn't need to advertise any more also.

[QUOTE=TheBigRed1; 1494584]SKY:

You just reviewed her and loved her, are you having "buyer's remorse"?

Petra is a great lady. Professional, sensual and talented, what made you post this question?

Are you going to post another like it about SaraTT? She has "gone quiet" because she doesn't need to advertise any more also.[/QUOTE]Nah, not buyer's remorse. I just was going to use her services and wanted to check before I bit the bullet. I wanted the carfax, so to speak.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy; 1494076]But never for putting on makeup or an outfit that she already has.

So the question is are you paying for her to get makeup and hair done? (which I might understand if this were an escort doing something along the line of formal arm candy)

Followed by the second question, what does she actually look like without professional help?[/QUOTE]I had the occasion to meet with her a few weeks ago. Quoted $.25 / hr. Was told over the phone that she looks and dresses like in her pics. Got directions to her incall alomg the way. When I arrived, and after the donation, was told we needed to hurry, as her girlfriend was expecting her within the half hr. WTF? VERY rushed, HJ, BJ, neither that good, was outa there in 20 mins. She apologized for the rush, and promised a reduced rate on a return visit. Don't think so. Will not repeat. As always, YMMV

This should go in the Street report but I put here in the General "R" because I avoid details as much as possible. I decided to take a Friday night cruise on the NightLight Cruise Line. It wasn't a very successful cruise but that was more my fault than it was the night. There was a good amount of SW's out, and about avg on LE appearance but enough to be overly cautious.

I saw a good amount of ladies out and a good amount of decent WSW's. I was pleasantly surprised. But If you werent fast on the pick up they were gone, and I was really slow on that Friday. Man was I SLOW on that. It was a matter of timing and and if I were going in one direction, they were going in the opposition direction. If I saw one, by time I could circle around she was gone. Many that got picked up did not always return to the spot they were picked up at. I looked for them, and to no avail.

It was Friday the 13th, but that was not the reason. My timing was just off line Friday. I saw a WSW in reddish pink tight shorts, and a red & white strip sleeveless top. She had some big nice Legz like I like them, looked kinda tall, and looked to have red wavy hair to her shoulders or longer. Looked to have a very nice body, and I saw her walking from Ravine towards Mohawk. She could have been a ligit resident, but by time I could turn around she was gone. I never saw her again, so that kinda leads me to think she might live close by. Anyone else see her.

I did again see the Fags have moved into the Ligit SW women's areas. They were all the way up to Brighton Approach. That far up REALLLLY! And at Ravine they just took over the corner. Even at Mohawk they were there, before they finally moved to Dunlap. Then LE made to move on and they came back after a couple of hours.

I saw very few BSW's even down Linn street, except for the Skanks. They are always out. I even had one of my regular BSW go Flakey on me. Asking for Money up front, bad attitude, being a smart-ass, and refusing service until she got her money upfront. I told her to Kiss My Ass, and she got No Money, and I started to leave her Ass right there. That was the end for Us and I am starting to think she is becoming a real addict of something. She is not the brightest BSW I know, and I would bet she was in the slowest classes when in school and she is too old at her age to get addicted to drugs. But man does she have a tight body, and very good skillz in everything and she will even do CIM, and can be Freaky. But we are Done Done, as far as I am Concerned.

Did anyone see the old WSW blond dressed in Black on the steps on McM sitting with the white guy. She looked good until you got up close and you could see she was run over, old & wrinkled, and unattractive. Look like she didn't have all her teeth in. That might be good for a GUMMY BJ-CIM, those are the BEST.

Of course me being Unsuccessful, is someone else being Successful. I just hope they know to keep the price / rate low, and demand good service for your funds.

They Need You, Far More Than You Need Them. SERIOUSLY!

SERIOUSLY!

another good lookin girl who has no strength to sty away from drugs. read the comments. she used to be a pretty lady an now she is just dried up an gettin uglier with every new dose of shit she swallow s or puts in her body. damb ass

I seen her a couple dozen times an she just seems to go further an further down hill. Amazes me how some of these girls make a few bucks an do not have the fucking brains of a tree an some how just go deeper into stupid behavior. Drugs and criminal stuff its a shame because some are nice ladies an to just continue to act like idiots is sad.

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i aint seein her any more now.

[QUOTE=Caligulaxxx; 1497197]another good lookin girl who has no strength to sty away from drugs. Read the comments. She used to be a pretty lady an now she is just dried up an gettin uglier with every new dose of shit she swallow s or puts in her body. Damb ass

I seen her a couple dozen times an she just seems to go further an further down hill. Amazes me how some of these girls make a few bucks an do not have the fucking brains of a tree an some how just go deeper into stupid behavior. Drugs and criminal stuff its a shame because some are nice ladies an to just continue to act like idiots is sad.

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I aint seein her any more now.[/QUOTE]Really? So says the dumbass doing criminal stuff. Oh that's right, your criminal behavior is ok because never has a John been beaten up, robbed, killed, or given a disease from seeing a drug user (a couple of dozen times). Your comments are as usefull as a religious nut saying that sleeping with call girls is bad, dumb, stupid, waste of money & ruins a good life. Get off your high horse (don't worry it's a small step down)

She looks beat up on there.

[QUOTE=Caligulaxxx; 1497197]another good lookin girl who has no strength to sty away from drugs. Read the comments. She used to be a pretty lady an now she is just dried up an gettin uglier with every new dose of shit she swallow s or puts in her body. Damb ass

I seen her a couple dozen times an she just seems to go further an further down hill. Amazes me how some of these girls make a few bucks an do not have the fucking brains of a tree an some how just go deeper into stupid behavior. Drugs and criminal stuff its a shame because some are nice ladies an to just continue to act like idiots is sad.

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I aint seein her any more now.[/QUOTE]

I guess she can't be 30 any more. I think she might have been 28 last month.

[QUOTE=Nday Guy;1497415]She looks beat up on there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nday Guy;1497415]She looks beat up on there.[/QUOTE]I remembet over 5 years ago, she was so hot of a spinner. She weighed about 30 lbs more but as almost as hot as Petra. Last year was the last time I seen her and she was very thin, performance was not that as good and aged alot, probly was on drugs then. It is ashame lost another one to that.

Hey guys,

Tying to find the ad for petra.

Thanks

[QUOTE=PitDropper;1497493]I remembet over 5 years ago, she was so hot of a spinner. She weighed about 30 lbs more but as almost as hot as Petra. Last year was the last time I seen her and she was very thin, performance was not that as good and aged alot, probly was on drugs then. It is ashame lost another one to that.[/QUOTE]And to think that I came this close (the size of my little head) from calling her using my work phone because I don't have a hobby phone yet and I thought if anyone was a straight shooter, it was her. Apparently she really is a straight shooter!

[QUOTE=Caligulaxxx; 1497197]another good lookin girl who has no strength to sty away from drugs. Read the comments. She used to be a pretty lady an now she is just dried up an gettin uglier with every new dose of shit she swallow s or puts in her body. Damb ass

I seen her a couple dozen times an she just seems to go further an further down hill. Amazes me how some of these girls make a few bucks an do not have the fucking brains of a tree an some how just go deeper into stupid behavior. Drugs and criminal stuff its a shame because some are nice ladies an to just continue to act like idiots is sad.

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I aint seein her any more now.[/QUOTE]Shocking, and very sad. I haven't seen her in a long time, last time I did though she was pretty, vibrant, and a wonderfully erotic sensual kitten. The person in the photo doesn't resemble the Callie I knew at all. Looks like a completely different, and very sick woman. I hope she gets the help she needs to get her off that crazy train. Which is incredibly difficult to do. Hopefully she has reached a point where getting clean looks more attractive than this mugshot.

[QUOTE=Mattgill01;1497223]Really? So says the dumbass doing criminal stuff. Oh that's right, your criminal behavior is ok because never has a John been beaten up, robbed, killed, or given a disease from seeing a drug user (a couple of dozen times). Your comments are as usefull as a religious nut saying that sleeping with call girls is bad, dumb, stupid, waste of money & ruins a good life. Get off your high horse (don't worry it's a small step down)[/QUOTE]Mattgill with your 19 pion posts shut the fuck up callin the kettle black an yes I am on a high horse thats what happens when you spend a life time of not making stupid ass decisions. Huh? Understand or do you need an interpreter white night?

[QUOTE=WellWell1; 1497830]Hey guys,

Tying to find the ad for petra.

Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/last-day-dont-miss-out-100-special-247-27/7192796[/url]

[QUOTE=Caligulaxxx; 1497197]another good lookin girl who has no strength to sty away from drugs. Read the comments. She used to be a pretty lady an now she is just dried up an gettin uglier with every new dose of shit she swallow s or puts in her body. Damb ass

I seen her a couple dozen times an she just seems to go further an further down hill. Amazes me how some of these girls make a few bucks an do not have the fucking brains of a tree an some how just go deeper into stupid behavior. Drugs and criminal stuff its a shame because some are nice ladies an to just continue to act like idiots is sad.

[url]http://cincymugshots.com/inmate-permalink.php?jms=1471847[/url]

I aint seein her any more now.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. Sent info to girl I see regularly in Cinti. I think they used to work together. Saw older post in BP other town. I see this starting to happen with her also, not as bad yet but all kind of issues popping' up I shouldn't be putting up with. Red flags everywhere. Doubt that your info I sent changes her but will change me.

Stay safe

[QUOTE=Caligulaxxx;1497956]Mattgill with your 19 pion posts shut the fuck up callin the kettle black an yes I am on a high horse thats what happens when you spend a life time of not making stupid ass decisions. Huh? Understand or do you need an interpreter white night?[/QUOTE]You are right. My 19 post to your couple of dozen lays with a drug user criminal. Haha. You are the master!

Does anyone have anything on Leia? BP 8529281 cin X. X. X. X Leaves you S_A_T_I_S_F_I_E_D X. X. X. X. Any info on this one would be great. She looks way to good but what do I know, thats why I come here now.

Thanks,

513 Rocks

Caligula,

Is this the Callie that used to post and advertise here?

I sure hope not because that Callie was once upon a time a very attractive lady.

How sad this is.

All the best,

Dawn

[QUOTE=Nday Guy;1497415]She looks beat up on there.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Bobby. Read many good things. Hope for a dream myself.

Just because you are a Woman with SEX Forsale, doesn't mean it is with the price / rate you want to charge. With the down turn in the economy, I have seen many new escorts pop up and have started right off the bat asking for rates that regular SW / escorts are charging. I say this because some of the new escorts are not attractive, nor well built, and are wanting money equal to those who are.

I know many SW's make be more skillful than attractive, but that is something you find out once you have taken the risk. I have seen posted some truly out of shape and that is saying it nicely, and very unattractive women looking to advertise SW work. This is making the value of the more attractive, and well built SW's worth more.

I think too many women think men are willing to pay for SEX no matter what the women looks like, especially when they might have been able to get a few men to give up some cash for their sexual favors at some points. Once this happens and they think they can do this with every man, they are on a road to a very big let down.

Now I must admit often men will take something quick & cheap if the opportunity presents itself, but when it comes to spending money on a Fantasy or Dream or Bucket List Girl, just any woman out there won't due. It is enough regular SW's are charging as much as they do, but to have some unattractive SW's asking the same for her services, and getting upset when no one takes them up on their offer, or are asking her to charge lot less. Well!

If SW's know their range they can make money if the price is right. This is why street SW's who are asking off street rates get a rude awakening, and soon enough change their rates back to the street going rate. And those who are at the Skank level get even less or end up left on the corners avoided altogether.

I have be sent some Pix of some new faces on the escort / SW line, and some of them have a false sense about their looks, what men want, or what men are willing to pay for. Unless you have some proven Sexual skills, where you can look like anything, not many of the SW's willing to advertise their service, are going to be successful at it.

Any SW out there needs to start low below everyone else, and as men try out your wears, then the you can build your clientele and build your Rep for services rendered, they can ask for more, and get referrals at the sametime.

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Tried to connect with 3 or 4 providers today and could not line up any dates. Guess I'm just complaining, but damn I feel like I should take it personally.

[QUOTE=Delicious Dawn; 1498571]Caligula,

Is this the Callie that used to post and advertise here?

I sure hope not because that Callie was once upon a time a very attractive lady.

How sad this is.

All the best,

Dawn[/QUOTE]This SexyCallie? I hope that they keep her in jail for at least a few months to sober up since she won't have a chance if released in a few days.

[QUOTE=Delicious Dawn; 1498571]Caligula,

Is this the Callie that used to post and advertise here?

I sure hope not because that Callie was once upon a time a very attractive lady.

How sad this is.

All the best,

Dawn[/QUOTE]Yes that is her, sad just like you said real sad. Hard to understand

[QUOTE=Mattgill01;1498436]You are right. My 19 post to your couple of dozen lays with a drug user criminal. Haha. You are the master![/QUOTE]Mattgill good news for you is she will probably take a $20 from you to do things to your fat sheap whitenight ass. u know cause now she is on crack or whatnot. good luck shining star

[QUOTE=Mattgill01;1498436]You are right. My 19 post to your couple of dozen lays with a drug user criminal. Haha. You are the master![/QUOTE]I had my tiff go to Rants, maybe, just maybe, you guys could do that as well.

It is just a better place to vent.

Brass

Your box, no pun, is full.

Brass

O. M. G. W. T. F. That was Callie in that mugs hot. She looks awful! If I saw her on the street looking like that I would think she was a skank to be avoided. I had several members here warn me about her and her families (mother & brother) drug use. But as many of the members who were promoting her and using her service, it looked as if she was keeping up her appearance's. That mugs shot is a tremendous downhill slide she made. That looks like years of abuse and serious drug use. Is that really her. Man see looks Awful.

This is my second post about Callie, because I think my first post got lost in cyber space. So if it appears at some point this is additional to it.

What did Callie get busted on. Was it just drug use or SW work or both. Man Callie was a Fox in her better days, and she had some really Great Legs. Those were the kind you can form a Legz Fetish on with nice ankle & feet. The woman just had a Sex Body, so I am glad she posted Pix of her in her Hey Days!

You know Callie was on many members Bucket List even on the Bucket List for many LE. Yea they trick out with many SW's on the side until they are caught. They bargain with them and settle for Sex to avoid arrest. Ask most SW's they all have stories, but have little proof, yet they all give the same names and stories.

According to what Callie was arrested on, she might be willing to give up her clients list in order to avoid jail or a long sentence. I hope this will never be the case, but there is that possibility. And for those who promoted her to the members here, could be in for a wake up call, phone call, and hopefully not a knock on the door from LE, or a Blackmail I need Money Call.

I hope Callie just does her time, gets clean from her drug addiction, straightens out her life, and moves on and forms a better life. I hope that carry's over to her whole family. They all seem to be rather F'ed up as a family.

This is a Call for all members to understand that drug abusing SW's are not just Street SW's. Many of the BP / Escort / Etc, SW's abuse drugs too and have unprotected Sex with their boyfriends / pimps, while they go out and have unprotected sex with other women, they are just sexing or pimping. And if you think many SW's won't take extra money to do Unprotected Sex with a client and will never openly admit it then you better understand what money for sex is all about.

So know no one is safe and everyone is a risk. Some risk bigger than others.

Still Callies situation is really not that uncommon, and I see it on the streets everyday. Plus I am seeing a lot of SW's getting Pregnant, more often by some drug-boy / boyfriend / want to-be pimp. Either way it is unprotected Sex. One of my Fav Listers just had her second or third baby since the early 2000's. Oh and all by different boys not men. Who of course kick it with other girls out there.

So I am always caution and careful with her knowing she smokes crack too. But she she is nowhere close to being a crack junkie. Yet! But she does Jones at times.

Lastly, People Remember, These SW's Need Your Money More Than You Need Them.

With your Money you have a great choice, and don't ever settle for bad service, or any kind of bad attitude.

And only give her half of the money up front if you really must give up cash.

Better to give any SW. NONE of the Money up front, so be ready to walk, if she won't take the money until after service is rendered.

And Never Ever Rip-Off any SW if service has been even without the SW cutting you short on service.

Be Prepared to call there bluff, and be prepared to kick that SW out of your car if you have too.

Always Be Prepared!

[QUOTE=Caligulaxxx; 1497197]another good lookin girl who has no strength to sty away from drugs. Read the comments. She used to be a pretty lady an now she is just dried up an gettin uglier with every new dose of shit she swallow s or puts in her body. Damb ass

I seen her a couple dozen times an she just seems to go further an further down hill. Amazes me how some of these girls make a few bucks an do not have the fucking brains of a tree an some how just go deeper into stupid behavior. Drugs and criminal stuff its a shame because some are nice ladies an to just continue to act like idiots is sad.

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I aint seein her any more now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1498967]Just because you are a Woman with SEX Forsale, doesn't mean it is with the price / rate you want to charge. With the down turn in the economy, I have seen many new escorts pop up and have started right off the bat asking for rates that regular SW / escorts are charging. I say this because some of the new escorts are not attractive, nor well built, and are wanting money equal to those who are.

I know many SW's make be more skillful than attractive, but that is something you find out once you have taken the risk. I have seen posted some truly out of shape and that is saying it nicely, and very unattractive women looking to advertise SW work. This is making the value of the more attractive, and well built SW's worth more.

I think too many women think men are willing to pay for SEX no matter what the women looks like, especially when they might have been able to get a few men to give up some cash for their sexual favors at some points. Once this happens and they think they can do this with every man, they are on a road to a very big let down.

Now I must admit often men will take something quick & cheap if the opportunity presents itself, but when it comes to spending money on a Fantasy or Dream or Bucket List Girl, just any woman out there won't due. It is enough regular SW's are charging as much as they do, but to have some unattractive SW's asking the same for her services, and getting upset when no one takes them up on their offer, or are asking her to charge lot less. Well!

If SW's know their range they can make money if the price is right. This is why street SW's who are asking off street rates get a rude awakening, and soon enough change their rates back to the street going rate. And those who are at the Skank level get even less or end up left on the corners avoided altogether.

I have be sent some Pix of some new faces on the escort / SW line, and some of them have a false sense about their looks, what men want, or what men are willing to pay for. Unless you have some proven Sexual skills, where you can look like anything, not many of the SW's willing to advertise their service, are going to be successful at it.

Any SW out there needs to start low below everyone else, and as men try out your wears, then the you can build your clientele and build your Rep for services rendered, they can ask for more, and get referrals at the sametime.

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[u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was redacted or deleted because it was written in [u]ALL CAPITAL LETTERING[/u]. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. [i]Thanks! [/i][/blue][/QUOTE]What do you propose or whats your advice / take on the matter of. Girls who will advertise in the therapeutic massage listings where the clients come for a real licensed masseuse with their needs and there are new girls popping up as the quicky rub an tug ladies and my clients the new ones always have the same complaint! They say I'm so glad I finally got in with you, while waiting to get in I tried some of the less booked girls in the thereputic section thinking if no bonus atleast I get a massage from a cmt or lmt, then I found out pretty quick she knew nothing about massage. The clients say if they wanted a short uneducated back rub they know to look in body rugs, also I get textes from other providers who get my cell numbr from my ad just like clients do an they text me calling me names over my reviews and telling me its fine to do all that I do but I need to charge MORE because when I charge what they charge, then clients apparently complain about them girls upselling anything extra. Its mostly young girls texting me but, I JUST can't raise my prices like its no big deal! I'd love to make more money everyone would its natural, but I have clients that followed me since the beginning when I charged only half my current rate to get my foot in the door, an they already put up with my price completely doubling! And honestly! Come on! Its already $100 for only 60min of our life! I give the grocery store 60min of my life for FREE! I'm not a lawyer! I'm not a doctor! What is so freaking special or life changing that we do that we feel clients should pay so excessively! Then clients are just much to blame! The higher a girl is listed in price the better they assume she is! Thats just not true! I've been told by clients that they would pay alot more for time with me, It feels great to hear it I can't lie, I just don't think I need to pay rent with ONE CLIENT! Its just my opinion though hope I didn't offend no one.

To:Curvy Crissy,

First of all lets establish what are who you are. Are you doing ligit work or are you doing SW work. I got the feeling you are doing ligit business and if that is the case then the whole post doesn't even apply to you. If that is the case I will go on as best I can, and if you ARE an SW, then other parts of my post may or may not apply to you.

Many women are entering the SW trade, with the idea, that they need no skills, other than having the ability to have sex for sale, they are often out of shape, unattractive, no verbal or oral skills, are not really good at SEX to begin with and really don't want to be in the SW trade (Only for the Money) , keeping in mind they don't want to have SEX with numerous men to begin with.

As a women you better keep in mind that that is exactly what you are going to do, and from that point you can never go back, and this game can be a scar on you mind as well as life, forever. Your Rep can follow an SW forever, and it will stay with you into all your life. You will be hard pressed to get any real Respect as a person, and it will be twice as BAD from the Women who know what you've done.

Some can shake it, other can't. Too many of these women are only looking at the MONEY end of the business / trade, thinking they will make some quick money and get out. Other are on drug, and they have a totally different reason for their involvement in the SW trade.

The real issue is that some of the women in the higher end SW business are fooling themselves. If you clients have told you or called you, many of the members here have PM'ed me, and others who know me have called to say some SW, they came to visit was nothing what she said or advertised she was. Then after that person walks in his mind is in the Stay or Run mode. Most decide to roll / bounce, on them, and to put the SW on Blast via PM's or Post. A few decide to stay, because they are there anyway, but unless this SW has some real SEXUAL Talents, most won't repeat. Of course I will always admit, we as Men will often screw any woman, but that often applies to FREE SEX, not PPV (Pay. Per. View). Old, Young, Blind, Cripple, Crazy, as long as it is FREE, often we will take it. If we didn't we have had to have a GUT feeling telling us not too. And very often we are glad we didn't.

Many young women can jump in and out of the SW game simple because they are young and I will say young up to 25y / o and for some 26-29y / o maybe 30. Men are Loving that, but it is a quickie business for the most part, and few end up as long term providers. And with older men they can keep their side game quiet, and behind them. So they use the chat-line to arrange dates, most than the BP or Escort ads. This way they jump in and out. I used the chat-lines myself and often ran into some dimes #10 at a bargain, and some #3's that want big money, because someone told them what they had been giving away for FREE they should be charging for, and that real SW's are asking for $$$.

If you have a Fetish for Big Breast, Butts, Hips, Legs, and More, you then look for SW's to feed your need. And if they happen to have what you want, and are attractive too, you might be will to,"Pay the Cost to be the Boss." If the SW's is unattractive, then it is according to how that Fetish works for you on her. Is she worth spending your,"Hard Earned Money On."

As you said, you have to pay for your groceries, will so do we. So getting our Money's worth is even more IMPORTANT.

We aren't always making Doctors or Attorney's money. Some of us have to sit aside our Money to pay for SW's, and that means we often have to save and put that money aside. So we can't always get to an SW' every week. For some only once a month.

Paying our bills always comes first, then there is savings for other more important needs. If anything is left, then maybe we can go to an SW, who we can afford. So getting Rip-Off, Deceived, Played, Taken Advantage Of, Dissatisfied, and More is NOT An Option.

This is not something you can report to the Police, or lodge a complaint about. So the risk or just as great for the client, as it is for the SW. If anything goes wrong it's a Crap Shot who will come out on top, and I have NEVER Heard of any SW giving money back if a client is dissatisfied or unhappy with the service provided. The serving grace of most Clients is to WARN everyone else who comes into contact with that SW provider, and that will hit her right in the pocket. Here are some far worse things he can do, but I wrote write about those. But they always work very well, and have been a thorn in the sides of many a Bad SW provider.

I have a been with a SW who works right out of her home, who has 44-48 DDD's breast. O. M. G. And she has big nipples too, and she is inexpensive, to me, and if she did not have big breast, I would not be interested. She is not really unattractive, but she is very over-weight. She knows her Big Breast are her key to fame, and a fetish to men like myself. She has a very good client list, and is now asking for more money, because of her popularity. She is a good Lay too, and she has a great sense of Humor, and she really does Love Sex & Loves Men. For her she is really getting paid for what she would be doing for FREE, and she knows that once in the SW game, she knows it will follow her as a REP forever, in her SW area / city. I like her Personality, Charm, Humor, and her Sexual Skills. She really Loves giving a BJ to a Man, and she is Bi-Sexual too. She is always willing to add a woman, if you can arrange it in advance, or one is nearby.

And Women Love her. She is one of my BEST sources for other Sexy Young Women. And the cost to me is low, to me, and she know I will always give her her small % of any SW she send to me.

This is our hard earned money, thus we have to demand getting our money's worth, and if we can't get that, this we need to put as many of the SW's out there who are providing Bad / Poor / False / Deceptive service Out-of-Business as fast as we can. Or to help Hit them deeply in their Pockets.

We Too Work Too Hard To Be Ripped Off of Our "Hard Earned Money."

SW's Need Our Money Much More Than We Need Them.

Don't Get Ripped Off!

[QUOTE=CurvyCrissy;1500110]What do you propose or whats your advice / take on the matter of. Girls who will advertise in the therapeutic massage listings where the clients come for a real licensed masseuse with their needs and there are new girls popping up as the quicky rub an tug ladies and my clients the new ones always have the same complaint! They say I'm so glad I finally got in with you, while waiting to get in I tried some of the less booked girls in the thereputic section thinking if no bonus atleast I get a massage from a cmt or lmt, then I found out pretty quick she knew nothing about massage. The clients say if they wanted a short uneducated back rub they know to look in body rugs, also I get textes from other providers who get my cell numbr from my ad just like clients do an they text me calling me names over my reviews and telling me its fine to do all that I do but I need to charge MORE because when I charge what they charge, then clients apparently complain about them girls upselling anything extra. Its mostly young girls texting me but, I JUST can't raise my prices like its no big deal! I'd love to make more money everyone would its natural, but I have clients that followed me since the beginning when I charged only half my current rate to get my foot in the door, an they already put up with my price completely doubling! And honestly! Come on! Its already $100 for only 60min of our life! I give the grocery store 60min of my life for FREE! I'm not a lawyer! I'm not a doctor! What is so freaking special or life changing that we do that we feel clients should pay so excessively! Then clients are just much to blame! The higher a girl is listed in price the better they assume she is! Thats just not true! I've been told by clients that they would pay alot more for time with me, It feels great to hear it I can't lie, I just don't think I need to pay rent with ONE CLIENT! Its just my opinion though hope I didn't offend no one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1499680]O. M. G. W. T. F. That was Callie in that mugs hot. She looks awful! If I saw her on the street looking like that I would think she was a skank to be avoided. I had several members here warn me about her and her families (mother & brother) drug use. But as many of the members who were promoting her and using her service, it looked as if she was keeping up her appearance's. That mugs shot is a tremendous downhill slide she made. That looks like years of abuse and serious drug use. Is that really her. Man see looks Awful.

This is my second post about Callie, because I think my first post got lost in cyber space. So if it appears at some point this is additional to it.

What did Callie get busted on. Was it just drug use or SW work or both. Man Callie was a Fox in her better days, and she had some really Great Legs. Those were the kind you can form a Legz Fetish on with nice ankle & feet. The woman just had a Sex Body, so I am glad she posted Pix of her in her Hey Days!

You know Callie was on many members Bucket List even on the Bucket List for many LE. Yea they trick out with many SW's on the side until they are caught. They bargain with them and settle for Sex to avoid arrest. Ask most SW's they all have stories, but have little proof, yet they all give the same names and stories.

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Callie is still advertising:

[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pure-satisfaction-30/8695564[/url]

Obviously not using current pictures. Is she out on bail or what? Too bad, I had some good times with her.