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I don't believe I referenced you in any of this. Looking at your track record I could see how you might think that. I was commenting on the fact that a hobbiest was posting his views on "the perfect" scenario on a hobbiest board. You decided to step in and throw your opinion out on the table and "rally the girls" around your cause. It's one thing to voice an opinion, it's quite another to attack another poster while bitching about your job. I also didn't say show up dirty, just like you wouldn't show up at a restaurant for dinner with no pants on. Sure, the client should be clean, sure there's probably clients that don't get that. There's also the crazy ***** who thinks EVERYTHING is dirty and disgusting and uses alcohol swabs at the start, middle, and end. Again I wasn't pointing fingers at you, I was just helping out "the other side". The situation here is cut and dry, at the heart of it, it's a business. You are a service provider. If you advertise your service and deliver and have a satisfied client based, well done, good for you. All the original poster was suggesting were ways that girls might be able to do the same. Was he a bit over the top in some points? Sure, but yours were equally ridiculous. If you've got clients showing up with "stank nuts" perhaps you might want to look at your client pool. Maybe even post that in your ad and see how that does.

My problem stemmed from the fact that a customer was giving feedback on what he'd like to see from a service provider, followed by a lot of noise in the opposite direction. When a customer leaves a comment card at a business or writes a letter to it's owner, he doesn't expect to receive a series of responses from other people in the business complaining about the types of customers they have to deal with. Imagine if you were to go a restaurant and ask the waiter for vegetarian suggestions and the waiter were to roll his eyes and say "Oh god, another one of these nuts. I swear, why would you come to a steakhouse and order a salad, what kind of idiot does that?" You'd probably never go again.

Regarding the going out of business thing, if a provider really is moving on to bigger better things, great! But so many times I've seen the "I'm going away for ever" only to just awkwardly slide back into the room again in a couple weeks as if they had never left. This is a sales tactic, a way to drum up business. Another method that I'm seeing is getting a few vocal "fans" and fellow providers together and "banding together" to stir up drama on the boards. I don't know how many times I've seen he backpage review section get completely derailed by that circus.

Since you seem to think I am pointing fingers at you, I will. A fine example of the "going out of business" or "leaving forever" thing:

So here we have you at your "last day"

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1041353#post1041353[/url]

Only to pop back in 15 days later to "visit":

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1050090#post1050090[/url]

Only to be permanently relocating again:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1055675#post1055675[/url]

Which kinda stretched into a month of "Any day could be my last day!"

And then oh look! You're back 2 months later:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1104632#post1104632[/url]

Here I think even you are starting to think the gig is a bit awkward and make the comment that you are leaving on "tour" and that you may or may not be back (But you should TOTALLY BOOK because you're probably going to go away forever. Maybe. Kinda) :

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1159783#post1159783[/url]

That date got pushed back to the next day and then on the 26th you're still posting as if you had never gone anywhere (AWKWARD!) :

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1163357#post1163357[/url]

Then a few months of drama. And then the big retirement notice:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1214938#post1214938[/url]

The 18th was the kick off of your last week here yet here you are. Still. To answer your question, no I'm not the prostitute po-po, I honestly didn't expect to get all the stuff that I posted above, I was just looking through for a few examples in the advertising forum of you saying you were leaving. I had NO IDEA I'd stumble upon all of that. But there it is and proves my point.

Sure, you've got a few vocal guys here who would vouch for you. And you will treat them like gold because like you say in a town with a constant tourist turnover rate a bad provider can rake in a few suckers a week easily with some vocal advocates. You apparently are doing your advertising right. Whether you actually provide stellar service to everyone? I doubt it. And that's not just based on what I'm seeing here.

I'll close this already-too-long post with this. I wasn't making this about you, you made this about you. I was giving my opinion and you took it personally. Maybe you read it wrong and felt guilty, maybe you took it personally on purpose to stir up drama and garner attention. I won't continue to provide you with said attention. You are a bully on this board and I'll have no part of that. I wanted to make my point and I believe I have.

[QUOTE=Jenna Divyne; 1227663]First and foremost, who are you, the prostitute po-po? Who are you to judge someone's service that you haven't even decided to "Try-out". And since when is it alright to knock someone who may be making an honest attempt to do something with their lives besides help you get off? It's not a "going out of biz" thing either, it may be a leaving town thing. Some of us although local providers, have been providers in other locations, and may be visiting past clientele. Some of us may be out of town for sometime shooting video, or visiting families and decide that we want to let those who want to see us know that we are leaving. Most of the ladies that tell you they are hurting for biz are full of shit. Biz isn't slow in a town that pours in a consistent number of tourists. The ones that are experiencing slow calls, are doing something wrong in their advertising.

I didn't see anywhere in the provider's posts, anything that is unreasonable. Whether you are paying or not. You should give a fuck about your own hygiene enough to wash the sweat off of your nuts. Be very careful who you give your business to. The ones willing to put up with anything you throw their way are mostly "Managed", junkies, or maybe the one who just might FORCE you to empty your pockets. A highly reviewed provider in DC, loved by many hobbyists there, accomodating in EVERY way. Decided one night because she was low on her drug of choice to rob her "Regular", but not only did she get what was in his pockets, she took him for a ride at gunpoint to the ATM. Imagine explaining THAT to your s / o.

A provider who is selective in those that she sees will not feel the need to do this. An independent is less likely to do something this reckless. Imagine you go see your ATF and she didn't have time to wash her face and it stinks from her prior clients stentch. But the reason she didn't wash is because she knew you wouldn't be smelling fresh either. Disgusting, right? Some of these girls are shady like that.

I love seeing hobbyists post thinking that they know all there is to know about this biz. If that were the case, this board would be pretty boring due to the lack of negative reports and there definately wouldn't be any chance of you getting caught up. Because you know EVERYTHING! I've been a provider for many years without a negative review. I don't know it all and never claim to. Some of you guys seem to turn this into "What's Worse?" You may have a "mutual" respect, or so you think. Their "manager" or "dealer" don't give a shit about anything but the $. An independent provider who has rules, can sometimes work with a lower donation amount, and actually cares about more than monetary or material things. Some of us actually invest in our homes, our health and education.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jerseygirl;1227650]Ditto. Hell I'd be damed if I was to give my money to someone else. Fuk, indepedant all the way baby.[/QUOTE]Aren't Utility bills bad enough.

[QUOTE=Austins66; 1227717]Ashley I thought you had your BS Degree in pleasure! Baby you know why I keep calling you.

Austin[/QUOTE]More like a Masters. I know I've been schooled by her. She even made me stay after class for some extra 'hands-on' instruction since I'm a little slow on the pick-up sometimes.

Add Jersey, Lauren of Orlando, and Goddess Maria who hold such degrees. Better study up before you see any of these ladies if you want to pass their tests.

[blue]Greetings Everyone,

Jenna Divyne posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.

Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Ron628; 1227994]More like a Masters. I know I've been schooled by her. She even made me stay after class for some extra 'hands-on' instruction since I'm a little slow on the pick-up sometimes.

Add Jersey, Lauren of Orlando, and Goddess Maria who hold such degrees. Better study up before you see any of these ladies if you want to pass their tests.[/QUOTE]Yes Ron you are absolutely right!

Austin

[QUOTE=Jenna Divyne; 1228051][blue]Greetings Everyone,

Jenna Divyne posted that he / she will no longer be participating in the forum.

Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his / her membership.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Jenna was an asset to this forum. I don't participate much but I do enjoy her posts. Not one of us mongers are better than any provider. Its about supply and demand. We demand, therefore the provider supplys. It is bs that a monger with only 24 posts can run off a reputable provider and I will say this buddy you have no clue what you are missing. Jenna provides one of the best BJ's I have evr experienced. Her place is always clean and quiet and there has never been a rate upsell other than greek wihch I'm not to interested in with any ladie. This is one inteligent girl who has always shown respect to me and from the reviews I have seen here others respect her as well.

Jenna if you read this I hope to see you again

[QUOTE=Goddess;1227557]Let the world beware we are not really robohoe's sitting around tapping the nightstand waiting. Waiting. Waiting[/QUOTE]Maria, you mean you're not? Well, now, that is a real kick in the pants. What is this world coming to?

[QUOTE=Thatguy75; 1227893]I don't believe I referenced you in any of this. Looking at your track record I could see how you might think that. I was commenting on the fact that a hobbiest was posting his views on "the perfect" scenario on a hobbiest board. You decided to step in and throw your opinion out on the table and "rally the girls" around your cause. It's one thing to voice an opinion, it's quite another to attack another poster while bitching about your job. I also didn't say show up dirty, just like you wouldn't show up at a restaurant for dinner with no pants on. Sure, the client should be clean, sure there's probably clients that don't get that. There's also the crazy * who thinks EVERYTHING is dirty and disgusting and uses alcohol swabs at the start, middle, and end. Again I wasn't pointing fingers at you, I was just helping out "the other side". The situation here is cut and dry, at the heart of it, it's a business. You are a service provider. If you advertise your service and deliver and have a satisfied client based, well done, good for you. All the original poster was suggesting were ways that girls might be able to do the same. Was he a bit over the top in some points? Sure, but yours were equally ridiculous. If you've got clients showing up with "stank nuts" perhaps you might want to look at your client pool. Maybe even post that in your ad and see how that does.

My problem stemmed from the fact that a customer was giving feedback on what he'd like to see from a service provider, followed by a lot of noise in the opposite direction. When a customer leaves a comment card at a business or writes a letter to it's owner, he doesn't expect to receive a series of responses from other people in the business complaining about the types of customers they have to deal with. Imagine if you were to go a restaurant and ask the waiter for vegetarian suggestions and the waiter were to roll his eyes and say "Oh god, another one of these nuts. I swear, why would you come to a steakhouse and order a salad, what kind of idiot does that?" You'd probably never go again.

Regarding the going out of business thing, if a provider really is moving on to bigger better things, great! But so many times I've seen the "I'm going away for ever" only to just awkwardly slide back into the room again in a couple weeks as if they had never left. This is a sales tactic, a way to drum up business. Another method that I'm seeing is getting a few vocal "fans" and fellow providers together and "banding together" to stir up drama on the boards. I don't know how many times I've seen he backpage review section get completely derailed by that circus.

Since you seem to think I am pointing fingers at you, I will. A fine example of the "going out of business" or "leaving forever" thing:

So here we have you at your "last day"

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1041353#post1041353[/url]

Only to pop back in 15 days later to "visit":

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1050090#post1050090[/url]

Only to be permanently relocating again:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1055675#post1055675[/url]

Which kinda stretched into a month of "Any day could be my last day!"

And then oh look! You're back 2 months later:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1104632#post1104632[/url]

Here I think even you are starting to think the gig is a bit awkward and make the comment that you are leaving on "tour" and that you may or may not be back (But you should TOTALLY BOOK because you're probably going to go away forever. Maybe. Kinda) :

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1159783#post1159783[/url]

That date got pushed back to the next day and then on the 26th you're still posting as if you had never gone anywhere (AWKWARD!) :

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1163357#post1163357[/url]

Then a few months of drama. And then the big retirement notice:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5679-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1214938#post1214938[/url]

The 18th was the kick off of your last week here yet here you are. Still. To answer your question, no I'm not the prostitute po-po, I honestly didn't expect to get all the stuff that I posted above, I was just looking through for a few examples in the advertising forum of you saying you were leaving. I had NO IDEA I'd stumble upon all of that. But there it is and proves my point.

Sure, you've got a few vocal guys here who would vouch for you. And you will treat them like gold because like you say in a town with a constant tourist turnover rate a bad provider can rake in a few suckers a week easily with some vocal advocates. You apparently are doing your advertising right. Whether you actually provide stellar service to everyone? I doubt it. And that's not just based on what I'm seeing here.

I'll close this already-too-long post with this. I wasn't making this about you, you made this about you. I was giving my opinion and you took it personally. Maybe you read it wrong and felt guilty, maybe you took it personally on purpose to stir up drama and garner attention. I won't continue to provide you with said attention. You are a bully on this board and I'll have no part of that. I wanted to make my point and I believe I have.[/QUOTE]Wow. Nice, eloquent, and to the point. And making your point. And, I've never seen Jenna, so I would never say anything good or bad about her. But you are right. You never mentioned her name. You were just giving your point of view.

[QUOTE=Chinsu11; 1227806]Called amber twice no call back ether time owell maybe next time.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEs.rls-21/4805413[/url]

Be safe,

Chinsu[/QUOTE]She is my roomate she was having problems with the phone its fixed now.

[QUOTE=Jenna Divyne; 1228051][blue]Greetings Everyone,

Jenna Divyne posted that he / she will no longer be participating in the forum.

Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his / her membership.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]You will be missed. Your unique perspective on many issues made for interesting and thought-provoking reading. I wish you the best in your new endeavours.

[QUOTE=Austins66; 1228060]Yes Ron you are absolutely right!

Austin[/QUOTE]I guess I have earned that Degree after all! Lots of kisses to you both.

[QUOTE=Edwin 29; 1228083]Jenna was an asset to this forum. I don't participate much but I do enjoy her posts. Not one of us mongers are better than any provider. Its about supply and demand. We demand, therefore the provider supplys. It is bs that a monger with only 24 posts can run off a reputable provider and I will say this buddy you have no clue what you are missing. Jenna provides one of the best BJ's I have evr experienced. Her place is always clean and quiet and there has never been a rate upsell other than greek wihch I'm not to interested in with any ladie. This is one inteligent girl who has always shown respect to me and from the reviews I have seen here others respect her as well.

Jenna if you read this I hope to see you again[/QUOTE]Edwin if you think thatguy75 is the reason Jenna left you really need a reality check she is a provider and thus has a very thick skin. Come on dude wake up, all thatguy75 did was to post a very articulate statement about this hobby he mentioned no names whatsoever. Jenna took it to heart as she should because it is documented her many going out / moving sales and decided it was better to leave then to deal with the board. This crap about only ha inf so many post or still being a regular member is BS it does not make anyone better then anyone else I am learns g that as I move forward on this forum hopefully you will too. Enjoy your holiday and be safe. Plzd269

[QUOTE=Edwin 29; 1228083]Jenna was an asset to this forum. I don't participate much but I do enjoy her posts. Not one of us mongers are better than any provider. Its about supply and demand. We demand, therefore the provider supplys. It is bs that a monger with only 24 posts can run off a reputable provider and I will say this buddy you have no clue what you are missing. Jenna provides one of the best BJ's I have evr experienced. Her place is always clean and quiet and there has never been a rate upsell other than greek wihch I'm not to interested in with any ladie. This is one inteligent girl who has always shown respect to me and from the reviews I have seen here others respect her as well.

Jenna if you read this I hope to see you again[/QUOTE]Jenna has strong opinions and not all guys can handle that. As far as her BJ's skills, this is a lady that knows how to make a man happy. I have always given her my highest recommendation. It is a severe loss to the board if she does not return as a forum member.

[QUOTE=Plzd269;1228457]Edwin if you think thatguy75 is the reason Jenna left you really need a reality check she is a provider and thus has a very thick skin. Come on dude wake up, all thatguy75 did was to post a very articulate statement about this hobby he mentioned no names whatsoever. Jenna took it to heart as she should because it is documented her many going out / moving sales and decided it was better to leave then to deal with the board. This crap about only ha inf so many post or still being a regular member is BS it does not make anyone better then anyone else I am learns g that as I move forward on this forum hopefully you will too. Enjoy your holiday and be safe. Plzd269[/QUOTE]I don't think that my fellow mongers have thought about it much. Jenna is a person who genuinely cares. The things that she posts are not in my opinion bullying. I don't think from jennas post that she was talking about hersself and if so then she has every right to stick up when she feels that she has been wronged. Wether he put her name in the report or not I think it is right there in black and white. Who else is retireing or leaving. Don't act like we can't all read. Sure some of us can't spell and don't make sense but that is niether here nor there. I don't think she put herself into it either could of been a genral post. Ither way she has in my opinion looked out for you guys. She has vouched for some she knows and some of you know that she has been kind enough to do searching for you and give references even some that were not deserved and who else can say another provider on USAG has done the things she has. She has always helped every one of you here. Sit back and see how much you could learn but your too busy bashing because its just one more piece of ass o\you can pay for. Your missine the point. When a provider is confedent enough to tell you the truth about things and you take for granted guess who is the fool. And I will say this I missed her when she was gone for six months and if you know her yuo would to. I relly wish Jenna the best of luck with her new job.

The feel goes back to a stage "where women should be seen and not heard"

The fact of the matter is that the hobby consists of both sexes.

Without provider's there would be no hobby or discussion thereof.

Some of us take time to offer a woman's insight to the flip side of this, in order for you gentlemen to understand the

Why, When, Where's and How's.

Jenna made a post about expectations we have of you in order to procure a nice date.

Hygiene is one of those expectations.

The reply to her was summarizing that our opinions don't matter because it shouldn't be about us but only about the customer.

I disagree, it should very well be about the lady as well as the customer.

As the saying goes, If you stand for nothing you will fall for anything.

If we have no limitations to ourselves as women: Morally, Physically and As to the respect we give and expect regardless of what mode of financial means we find.

Then we become bottom feeders, taking anything and getting nothing but grief

Would you visit a woman who allows anything to happen to her in order to get money, simply because the customer's happiness is the only thing that is important.

Would you feel safe with her and respect her?

More and More I have seen women get disrespected as if their only use is a tool to please you.

Keep in mind, We are people the same as you.

Because we choose to be in the adult industry does not make you the higher being, able to look down upon us rendering judgement.

Our opinions do matter and we will be heard.

If you don't like a woman having rights to an opinion and don't care about how they think or feel, please express that so that we know what kind of man we are dealing with :)

Jenna is a good woman and has time after time, offered many on here help, even keeping some safe.

She is one of us, the family that had each other's backs.

Who has her back now?

Whether she retired or not, she is allowed to change her mind.

If she wants to enter the civilian world good for her, Let me tell you the transition from the adult entertainment industry especially escorting is extremely hard to make.

It does take time and strength, this side can become a hard habit to break.

Instead of pointing out her challenges, support her to be all she can be regardless of what she does.

Jenna if you need me you know where to find me

[QUOTE=Edwin 29;1228678]I don't think that my fellow mongers have thought about it much. Jenna is a person who genuinely cares. The things that she posts are not in my opinion bullying. I don't think from jennas post that she was talking about hersself and if so then she has every right to stick up when she feels that she has been wronged. Wether he put her name in the report or not I think it is right there in black and white. Who else is retireing or leaving. Don't act like we can't all read. Sure some of us can't spell and don't make sense but that is niether here nor there. I don't think she put herself into it either could of been a genral post. Ither way she has in my opinion looked out for you guys. She has vouched for some she knows and some of you know that she has been kind enough to do searching for you and give references even some that were not deserved and who else can say another provider on USAG has done the things she has. She has always helped every one of you here. Sit back and see how much you could learn but your too busy bashing because its just one more piece of ass o\you can pay for. Your missine the point. When a provider is confedent enough to tell you the truth about things and you take for granted guess who is the fool. And I will say this I missed her when she was gone for six months and if you know her yuo would to. I relly wish Jenna the best of luck with her new job.[/QUOTE]I perceived the point of your post as if you were blaming thatguy75 for jenna leaving the board and that is simply not the case. Even though you did not use my name should I get upset and leave because my post came out all mauled with several misspelled words, I sent it via my droid and for some reason they don't always come across to well, it happens from time to time. Regardless this is a public forum and everyone has the right to express their opinions with in Jackson's guidelines. Most members of this board know the score of this hobby and for the most part are smart enough to sniff out a troll's post over an active members post regardless of senority. Jenna must have a lot on her plate as if she were to allow a response like that to make her leave this board then I would have to wonder about her in other ways. I am not hailing her leaving I am just telling you that your perception of it being thatguy75's fault is not correct in my opinion.

Plzd269

All independent providers are slowly leaving. Me next, Me next!

What's happening people. Veteran of the game, whats up to my people over at Utopia guide.

I just made it to this board, I am really feeling this board. This is what the game is suppose to be like. I saw the conversation and slick talk by Jenna. Let me tell something man. She is on online booty call messing some of my homeys over there. She just one those, I am not going to call her out her name. LOL She is a joke.

She got some nerve talking reckless here. I deal with full figured providers. The price she ask for, na never that. I would rather buy her "checkers" for a session. I would never do it because she is too arrogant.

I am not going to kick her while she is down. She changes up her prices when she gets desperate. This talk about "tourists" coming through and etc. That is all talk man.

I like this board because hobbyists don't back down here. I got no problems with the girls doing their thing. I am not going to do bad reviews on you. I got no time for it.

Respect the game and hobbyists. As for robbery's and all that. Let me tell you something. You are going to rob the wrong one. There is one particular girl on the stroll being doing that.

That washed up Ashanti on OBT, I ran her out of the liquor store. You still running game on hobbyists.

Anyway, I am out. Everybody stay up. Sorry I had to say my piece. Some things are just getting out of hand here. You can't let some of these girls talk to you like this. They are the first ones to call you when they are a "jam" like "Big girl" Jenna.

There are girls WAY BETTER than you for half the price. I don't get it!

(Walking out the door)

Hey Jackson,

Nice job with the new look of the forum! The Red, White, and Blue is appropriate for the name of the forum and certainly goes with today's theme. I like the smaller size of the forum also. We don't have as many posts consisting of only one long line.

You run a great forum Jackson. Keep up the good work!

[QUOTE=Lovely Bbw Lee;1228838]All independent providers are slowly leaving. Me next, Me next![/QUOTE]BBW Lee, I hope not! There are many of us Senior members that appreciate the beautiful talented woman that are members of this site. I certainly hope you remember the good clients and keep in touch with them through emails or any other preferred method of contact because we don't want to see any of you ladies leave. People please have patience with each other, we are all different! We are a very small and misunderstood group. Let's work and stand together. Have a fun and safe 4th.

Austin

[QUOTE=Irvingtonp; 1228894]What's happening people. Veteran of the game, whats up to my people over at Utopia guide.

I just made it to this board, I am really feeling this board. This is what the game is suppose to be like. I saw the conversation and slick talk by Jenna. Let me tell something man. She is on online booty call messing some of my homeys over there. She just one those, I am not going to call her out her name. LOL She is a joke.

She got some nerve talking reckless here. I deal with full figured providers. The price she ask for, na never that. I would rather buy her "checkers" for a session. I would never do it because she is too arrogant.

I am not going to kick her while she is down. She changes up her prices when she gets desperate. This talk about "tourists" coming through and etc. That is all talk man.

I like this board because hobbyists don't back down here. I got no problems with the girls doing their thing. I am not going to do bad reviews on you. I got no time for it.

Respect the game and hobbyists. As for robbery's and all that. Let me tell you something. You are going to rob the wrong one. There is one particular girl on the stroll being doing that.

That washed up Ashanti on OBT, I ran her out of the liquor store. You still running game on hobbyists.

Anyway, I am out. Everybody stay up. Sorry I had to say my piece. Some things are just getting out of hand here. You can't let some of these girls talk to you like this. They are the first ones to call you when they are a "jam" like "Big girl" Jenna.

There are girls WAY BETTER than you for half the price. I don't get it!

(Walking out the door)[/QUOTE]You sound like you are Hooked on Phonics with the way you word your post. Why get on here and Bash someone when you know darn well that person is no longer a member of this fine board we have? Is it maybe because you would be called out by that person? Lets see or maybe because you don't have any Balls? Oh my, I think I hit the nail on the head with that one! You come on here with (2) posts and you want to Verbally Bash a provider that is very much respected here. I can see it now, the responces you are going to get from this one!

Have a safe 4th

[QUOTE=Irvingtonp; 1228894]What's happening people. Veteran of the game, whats up to my people over at Utopia guide.

I just made it to this board, I am really feeling this board. This is what the game is suppose to be like. I saw the conversation and slick talk by Jenna. Let me tell something man. She is on online booty call messing some of my homeys over there. She just one those, I am not going to call her out her name. LOL She is a joke.

She got some nerve talking reckless here. I deal with full figured providers. The price she ask for, na never that. I would rather buy her "checkers" for a session. I would never do it because she is too arrogant.

I am not going to kick her while she is down. She changes up her prices when she gets desperate. This talk about "tourists" coming through and etc. That is all talk man.

I like this board because hobbyists don't back down here. I got no problems with the girls doing their thing. I am not going to do bad reviews on you. I got no time for it.

Respect the game and hobbyists. As for robbery's and all that. Let me tell you something. You are going to rob the wrong one. There is one particular girl on the stroll being doing that.

That washed up Ashanti on OBT, I ran her out of the liquor store. You still running game on hobbyists.

Anyway, I am out. Everybody stay up. Sorry I had to say my piece. Some things are just getting out of hand here. You can't let some of these girls talk to you like this. They are the first ones to call you when they are a "jam" like "Big girl" Jenna.

There are girls WAY BETTER than you for half the price. I don't get it!

(Walking out the door) [/QUOTE]Can someone translate this post into English for me please?

[QUOTE=Lovely Bbw Lee;1228838]All independent providers are slowly leaving. Me next, Me next![/QUOTE]Nah. Just the ones that can't take criticism when they deserve it.

[QUOTE=Chinsu11; 1227813]Just wanted to say thank to Worldsoffun and all the Senior Member I almost had a bad dream with annette (now I don't know this person just reading what is says on the forums) but I RTFF and dug up the 411. Just want to say thanks to all of you for all the work you have done here.

Be safe,

Chinsu[/QUOTE]I work the CL casuals from time to time and two things are constants: 1. I will get some spam responses (although this has reduced significantly) and 2. I will get a response from Annette. I've never met her, but am aware of the posts on her over the years here. I've exchanged emails with her on many occasions, but never gave into temptation to see her.

[QUOTE=Goddess; 1228763]The feel goes back to a stage "where women should be seen and not heard"

The fact of the matter is that the hobby consists of both sexes.

Without provider's there would be no hobby or discussion thereof.

Some of us take time to offer a woman's insight to the flip side of this, in order for you gentlemen to understand the

Why, When, Where's and How's.

Jenna made a post about expectations we have of you in order to procure a nice date.

Hygiene is one of those expectations.

The reply to her was summarizing that our opinions don't matter because it shouldn't be about us but only about the customer.

I disagree, it should very well be about the lady as well as the customer.

As the saying goes, If you stand for nothing you will fall for anything.

If we have no limitations to ourselves as women: Morally, Physically and As to the respect we give and expect regardless of what mode of financial means we find.

Then we become bottom feeders, taking anything and getting nothing but grief

Would you visit a woman who allows anything to happen to her in order to get money, simply because the customer's happiness is the only thing that is important.

Would you feel safe with her and respect her?

More and More I have seen women get disrespected as if their only use is a tool to please you.

Keep in mind, We are people the same as you.

Because we choose to be in the adult industry does not make you the higher being, able to look down upon us rendering judgement.

Our opinions do matter and we will be heard.

If you don't like a woman having rights to an opinion and don't care about how they think or feel, please express that so that we know what kind of man we are dealing with.

Jenna is a good woman and has time after time, offered many on here help, even keeping some safe.

She is one of us, the family that had each other's backs.

Who has her back now?

Whether she retired or not, she is allowed to change her mind.

If she wants to enter the civilian world good for her, Let me tell you the transition from the adult entertainment industry especially escorting is extremely hard to make.

It does take time and strength, this side can become a hard habit to break.

Instead of pointing out her challenges, support her to be all she can be regardless of what she does.

Jenna if you need me you know where to find me[/QUOTE]As much as I love you Ms Goddess, I have to disagree somewhat. Jenna took it upon herself to rip the poster to shreds. While there may be a thought that she just had another providers back, she never thought that maybe the poster was correct. Maybe he did have a crappy session, and the provider was not what she pretended to be. That happens. We see it all the time. I've walked away from sessions after seeing that the provider looked nothing like the picture.

There's bad and good on both sides. I respect every provider in this forum, even those that I've never seen. But, lets face it. It's been more than once that Jenna has gone off on someone, not even knowing who the poster or the provider was. If she had a problem with the poster, maybe it would have been handled better in a PM.

I don't know. I'm just an old fuck that likes to enjoy his time with the ladies. And for the most part, I have.

[QUOTE=Irvingtonp; 1228894]What's happening people. Veteran of the game, whats up to my people over at Utopia guide.

I just made it to this board, I am really feeling this board. This is what the game is suppose to be like. I saw the conversation and slick talk by Jenna. Let me tell something man. She is on online booty call messing some of my homeys over there. She just one those, I am not going to call her out her name. LOL She is a joke.

She got some nerve talking reckless here. I deal with full figured providers. The price she ask for, na never that. I would rather buy her "checkers" for a session. I would never do it because she is too arrogant.

I am not going to kick her while she is down. She changes up her prices when she gets desperate. This talk about "tourists" coming through and etc. That is all talk man.

I like this board because hobbyists don't back down here. I got no problems with the girls doing their thing. I am not going to do bad reviews on you. I got no time for it.

Respect the game and hobbyists. As for robbery's and all that. Let me tell you something. You are going to rob the wrong one. There is one particular girl on the stroll being doing that.

That washed up Ashanti on OBT, I ran her out of the liquor store. You still running game on hobbyists.

Anyway, I am out. Everybody stay up. Sorry I had to say my piece. Some things are just getting out of hand here. You can't let some of these girls talk to you like this. They are the first ones to call you when they are a "jam" like "Big girl" Jenna.

There are girls WAY BETTER than you for half the price. I don't get it!

(Walking out the door)[/QUOTE]I highly doubt that you know what you're talking about. Jenna has every right to be on online booty call. She is allowed to have a personal life. Sounds like you may be someone she turnd down for a freebie and now you want to be heard about it. With the words you are using sounds like you may be someones pimp or a want to be. I have seen jenna on several occasions. I have also seen her photos and XXX videoes and let me say pix don't do this girl justice. Don't let that door hit you where the good lord split you.

On another note I called this one tonight and it is definately not the ladie in the pix.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-c_o_-m_e-_-_p_-l_a_y_-_w_-i-_t_-h_-_m_-e_-23/4822101[/url]

[QUOTE=Irvingtonp; 1228894]What's happening people. Veteran of the game, whats up to my people over at Utopia guide.

I just made it to this board, I am really feeling this board. This is what the game is suppose to be like. I saw the conversation and slick talk by Jenna. Let me tell something man. She is on online booty call messing some of my homeys over there. She just one those, I am not going to call her out her name. LOL She is a joke.

She got some nerve talking reckless here. I deal with full figured providers. The price she ask for, na never that. I would rather buy her "checkers" for a session. I would never do it because she is too arrogant.

I am not going to kick her while she is down. She changes up her prices when she gets desperate. This talk about "tourists" coming through and etc. That is all talk man.

I like this board because hobbyists don't back down here. I got no problems with the girls doing their thing. I am not going to do bad reviews on you. I got no time for it.

Respect the game and hobbyists. As for robbery's and all that. Let me tell you something. You are going to rob the wrong one. There is one particular girl on the stroll being doing that.

That washed up Ashanti on OBT, I ran her out of the liquor store. You still running game on hobbyists.

Anyway, I am out. Everybody stay up. Sorry I had to say my piece. Some things are just getting out of hand here. You can't let some of these girls talk to you like this. They are the first ones to call you when they are a "jam" like "Big girl" Jenna.

There are girls WAY BETTER than you for half the price. I don't get it!

(Walking out the door) [/QUOTE]It is quality over quantity for some of us my man. You spend half the dough you get half the service. If you haven't met the girl you should. Your "homeys" are liars just like you. I spoke to jenna for a while about this and while I am a member of online booty call site I can't find her and it at all I call BS and I know bullshit when I smell it.

Ok I really hate to take this route but as of now I am no longer catering to african-american men in orlando! WTF is going on around here. I pride myself on being fair no matter how much you are paying me. I think I've built up a pretty decent reputation (Thanks Jenna for the kind pms and encouragement) as well as clients. I had a call tonite from a guy that seemed to be very articulate and mannerable over the phone. He showed up on time and was very nice at first. I never bytch about my money up front I just ask that you at least lay it down at the beginning of the session. I never upsale or rush. He was having a minor problem but I didn't complain or make him feel uncomfortable. Once the session was finally over he decided to strong arm me and take the donation and leave! Ladies please stay alert there seems to be alot of idiots frequenting BP lately. PM me for the digits. This asshole needs to be exposed! Highly pissed and please be safe.

Jada69

[QUOTE=PeterPiper52; 1229264]As much as I love you Ms Goddess, I have to disagree somewhat. Jenna took it upon herself to rip the poster to shreds. While there may be a thought that she just had another providers back, she never thought that maybe the poster was correct. Maybe he did have a crappy session, and the provider was not what she pretended to be. That happens. We see it all the time. I've walked away from sessions after seeing that the provider looked nothing like the picture.

There's bad and good on both sides. I respect every provider in this forum, even those that I've never seen. But, lets face it. It's been more than once that Jenna has gone off on someone, not even knowing who the poster or the provider was. If she had a problem with the poster, maybe it would have been handled better in a PM.

I don't know. I'm just an old fuck that likes to enjoy his time with the ladies. And for the most part, I have.[/QUOTE]Goddess also got the law of supply and demand wrong. She claims without the girls there would be no hobby. Sorry my dear, you're wrong. Without demand, you'd be out of business! That's really how this hobby works. (Wink.)

[QUOTE=PeterPiper52; 1229264]As much as I love you Ms Goddess, I have to disagree somewhat. Jenna took it upon herself to rip the poster to shreds. While there may be a thought that she just had another providers back, she never thought that maybe the poster was correct. Maybe he did have a crappy session, and the provider was not what she pretended to be. That happens. We see it all the time. I've walked away from sessions after seeing that the provider looked nothing like the picture.

There's bad and good on both sides. I respect every provider in this forum, even those that I've never seen. But, lets face it. It's been more than once that Jenna has gone off on someone, not even knowing who the poster or the provider was. If she had a problem with the poster, maybe it would have been handled better in a PM.

I don't know. I'm just an old fuck that likes to enjoy his time with the ladies. And for the most part, I have.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with old fucks!

[QUOTE=Dicktracey;1229259]I work the CL casuals from time to time and two things are constants: 1. I will get some spam responses (although this has reduced significantly) and 2. I will get a response from Annette. I've never met her, but am aware of the posts on her over the years here. I've exchanged emails with her on many occasions, but never gave into temptation to see her.[/QUOTE]I also get replies from annette on the CL personals, I had seen dreamed I saw her several times before. In my dream you get a good rate from her, she does BBBJCIM where most of it ends back on you and full service leaves you in need of a shower. I love shrimp but not the truck it arrives on. She was removed from this forum for using two different names and stirring the pot. Depending on what people are looking for, she is OK for a BJ but that's it. I just liked having someone I could trust wasn't my uncle who gave me 60 specials in a dream. If you need more details PM me. Man it'd be great to find a special like that on a person who does not get cocky over time, once a week made it like ice cream, nice after a days work.

Thank jee-bus and good bye. All she did was troll and hate. But since she had these fanboys on her D*k you could not put your one cents in. Regular senior. Gtfoh man. We all just trying to get some man. And what is up with these chicks sayin " I'm not racists I just do not like your race."? WTF is wrong with these people.

[QUOTE=Jman239;1229620]Thank jee-bus and good bye. All she did was troll and hate. But since she had these fanboys on her D*k you could not put your one cents in. Regular senior. Gtfoh man. We all just trying to get some man. And what is up with these chicks sayin " I'm not racists I just do not like your race."? WTF is wrong with these people.[/QUOTE]Jenna did a lot more than troll and hate. She provided great service and offered good advice from the ladies perspective. Intelligent mongers paid attention and oberved how the ladies thought and it sometimes helped us make our sessions more relaxed. Jenna may may shown a short fuse on the board, but every time I saw her it went well and that is the reason I have always given her great reviews. You never saw her and so you don't know her. You are the one trolling and hating, not Jenna.

As far as the race thing goes, these ladies are trying to share info with us and their observations. It is ok to disagree, but you don't know what these ladies go through on a regular basis. If you heard half of the crap they have to deal with, you would be amazed. They have the right to pick and choose who they see and if you don't like it, it is just too bad. When you criticize them for making a report and an observation, you are discouraging them from doing that in the future. I like hearing the ladies point of view and if I disagree on some point, then I try to express myself in a respectful way.

[QUOTE=Jada69; 1229439]Ok I really hate to take this route but as of now I am no longer catering to african-american men in orlando! WTF is going on around here. I pride myself on being fair no matter how much you are paying me. I think I've built up a pretty decent reputation (Thanks Jenna for the kind pms and encouragement) as well as clients. I had a call tonite from a guy that seemed to be very articulate and mannerable over the phone. He showed up on time and was very nice at first. I never bytch about my money up front I just ask that you at least lay it down at the beginning of the session. I never upsale or rush. He was having a minor problem but I didn't complain or make him feel uncomfortable. Once the session was finally over he decided to strong arm me and take the donation and leave! Ladies please stay alert there seems to be alot of idiots frequenting BP lately. PM me for the digits. This asshole needs to be exposed! Highly pissed and please be safe.

Jada69[/QUOTE]First off, I am very sorry this happened to you. His karma will catch up with him in the end. It's easier said than done, but don't lose sight of the fact that things can always be worse. The most important thing is that you are okay. I'm embarrassed to admit that I myself had a bad experience this weekend and it was with a long-standing regular client. He set his appointment over 24 hours in advance. Everything was great until when he went to leave I had remind him about my donation. His response was "I'm broke. I will catch you next time" as he walked out the door.

I don't like to push the issue of a tribute up front when I have seen the person several times already and they have shown they are reliable. This individual is THE LAST person I would ever think capable of such a douchebag move. Unfortunately, it's almost necessary to toss aside all kindness and compassion these days. That was my error and I have since learned a valuable lesson. It doesn't seem to matter what background, orientation or ethnicity a person is or how long they have been in your life. They can and probably will screw you over the first chance they get.

Best of luck to everyone. I'm beginning to think there's something in the water.

I just want to say that I am not one of Jenna's girls. I have spoken to her once for a reference and exchanged a PM to thank her afterwards. I have no affiliation with her and really don't know what is true or what isn't. However; regardless of what she has said, not said, done or not done, she is no longer a member of this board. She isn't able to defend herself against what is being said about her and it's pretty unfair to continue attacking someone who has seemingly thrown up their white flag. This has become like the nightmare of high school when people wait for you to leave the room so they can all whisper their individual judgements about you. One would hope we can all progress forward rather than stay stagnant and continue to throw stones at someone who isn't even present.

It wasnt my intention to run anyone off (though I hardly doubt I was the cause of that) nor was it my intention to open the door to haters. She's moved on and so should we. No hard feelings. Please stop speaking I'll of people who are not here to defend themselves. How are you any better by speaking poorly about someone who is no longer here? That's not fair or right. Let's end the bullying on these boards and get back to constructive discussion.

[QUOTE=Goddess;1229536]Nothing wrong with old fucks![/QUOTE]Thank you, my love. I hope to someday have the immense pleasure of meeting you. Your intelligence alone makes me smile.

Ok after receiving several PMs text and even phone calls, I feel the need to clarify some things. First of all I am very comfortable in my race. I am a BLACK WOMAN from Montgomery Alabama and I love everything about being black. I love the unique color of my skin, The fullness of my lips and especially the curves of my thighs hips and butt. I have no issues with black men on a personal level. How can I when I have 5 brothers and a father that are (guess what?) BLACK! I know that this is a business and I chose as an adult to be in it, but at the end of the day I decide who I will and will not see. In the past few days I have had 2 bad experiences so I made my desicion based on that. I donot have a "manager" family or even girlfriends here with me so for my safety this is the decision that I made. If I'm uncomfortable. How could I possibly make you comfortable so that we both can have a good time?

JADA69

Seriously, it's kinda sounds like a personal thing as far as the Jen Divyne comments are concerned, JMO. Also, can we move away from the race fuckery cause I can already see where some of the previous comments are going to take this board. IMHO, it's your money and you worked hard for it, so why on earth would anyone ever get offended because a chick doesn't want to see you or folks similiar to you. Call me stupid or slow, but why should I have to chase or beg anyone to throw away my hard earned gwop, LMAO. Shyt, I just never thought it was that serious.

[QUOTE=Jada69; 1229846]Ok after receiving several PMs text and even phone calls, I feel the need to clarify some things. First of all I am very comfortable in my race. I am a BLACK WOMAN from Montgomery Alabama and I love everything about being black. I love the unique color of my skin, The fullness of my lips and especially the curves of my thighs hips and butt. I have no issues with black men on a personal level. How can I when I have 5 brothers and a father that are (guess what?) BLACK! I know that this is a business and I chose as an adult to be in it, but at the end of the day I decide who I will and will not see. In the past few days I have had 2 bad experiences so I made my desicion based on that. I donot have a "manager" family or even girlfriends here with me so for my safety this is the decision that I made. If I'm uncomfortable. How could I possibly make you comfortable so that we both can have a good time?

JADA69[/QUOTE]Jada I am glad that you are alright, because it could have turned out a lot worse. You are right, it is YOUR choice who you do or do not see. I am the same way, I and I alone choose who I see. If you are an ass on the phone you will be an bigger ass in person. I give respect and in return I only ask the same. You may not, as you say, have family or girlfriends here, but you can best believe Sexy Ma'ma that you have people that care what happend to you. I am the first in that long line of people. You can always call me if needed.

Stay Sweet and safe.

XOXOXOXO