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You are absolutely correct. Florida has not had a parole system since the early 1980's. While there may still be some convicts on parole, they are supervised by probation officers who are employed by the state Department of Corrections.

[QUOTE=SteelThunder; 1274199]This topic has gotten a few folks kinda worked up to say the least!

Anyway for what its worth, if someone violates their probation on a prostitution charge-just by not complying with the terms of the probation-for example she misses her probation appointments-she is not charged with a felony. This is considered a violation of probation and the judge can impose penalties at his discretion that are allowable for that original charge. It is not a felony to violate probation on a misdemeanor prostitution charge.

However, if a streetwalker is arrested on a NEW prostitution charge which may also violate an existing probabtion she had from a previous charge, if that new charge was her third arrest under the statute, it would be a felony arrest. I hope this make sense, I haven't had my coffee this morning yet.

Hopefully everyone has a good weekend and finds some good bearded clam!

Best of luck and be safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hard Working 19;1274463]You are absolutely correct. Florida has not had a parole system since the early 1980's. While there may still be some convicts on parole, they are supervised by probation officers who are employed by the state Department of Corrections.[/QUOTE]This is straight from the web page for the Florida Parole Commission:

Following a study of the disparity in sentencing within the state court system, Sentencing Guidelines became effective October 1, 1983. Under Sentencing Guidelines, the Commission retained paroling authority only for inmates whose offenses were committed prior to October 1, 1983. The 'sunset' of the Parole Commission adopted that year during the Legislative session, and later extended, was repealed a decade later.

Please note where it says the "sunset" of the Parole Commission was repealed a decade later. Parole itself was never abolished, the only change that was made was who had authority over inmate parole, the commission or the courts.

You still pick and chose what you want to read and quote:

"What is Parole?

Parole is the release of an inmate, prior to the expiration of the inmate's court-imposed sentence, with a period of supervision to be successfully completed by compliance with the conditions and terms of the release agreement ordered by the Commission. The decision of the Commission to parole an inmate shall represent an act of grace of the State and should not be considered a right.

The Parole Commission administers parole (see Chapters 947, 948, and 949, Florida Statutes). It allows an inmate who has been granted parole to serve the remainder of his or her prison sentence outside the confines of the institution. Once released, the parolee is subject to conditions of supervision, and if those conditions are violated, the Commission may return the parolee to prison. Parole has experienced a number of changes over the years. In 1978, the Florida Legislature enacted 'Objective Parole Guidelines, ' which required the Commission to develop and implement rules and criteria upon which parole decisions were to be made. These criteria were based on risk assessment and combined historical Commission decision-making experience with individual case elements. The most significant change, however, came in 1983. In that year, sentencing guidelines were enacted, thereby effectively abolishing parole for those offenders who were sentenced for crimes committed on or after October 1, 1983.

Currently, all inmates who committed a capital felony murder prior to May 25, 1994, and all inmates who committed all other capital felonies, including sexual battery prior to October 1, 1995, are also parole eligible. There are approximately 5, 900 inmates who are still eligible for parole consideration and numerous offenders who are still under parole supervision.

Is Parole the same as Probation?

No. Probation is a period of supervision in the community imposed by the court as an alternative to imprisonment. These offenders are supervised by the Department of Corrections."

[url]https://fpc.state.fl.us/Parole.htm[/url]

And: "Conditional Release.

In 1988, the Florida Legislature created the Conditional Release Program and placed it under the administration of the Commission (see Chapters 947, 948, and 960, Florida Statutes). Conditional Release requires mandatory post-prison supervision for inmates who are sentenced for certain violent crimes and who have served a prior felony commitment, or who are sentenced as a habitual offender, violent habitual offender, violent career criminal, or sexual predator. Unlike parole, conditional release is not discretionary release. Upon release from prison, inmates who are subject to conditional release are supervised for a period of time equal to the gain-time that they received in prison. These offenders are subject to strict conditions of supervision set by the Commission and this supervision can be revoked and the releasee returned to prison if the Commission determines that a violation of supervision has occurred.

[url]https://fpc.state.fl.us/Postrelease.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29; 1274488]This is straight from the web page for the Florida Parole Commission:

Following a study of the disparity in sentencing within the state court system, Sentencing Guidelines became effective October 1, 1983. Under Sentencing Guidelines, the Commission retained paroling authority only for inmates whose offenses were committed prior to October 1, 1983. The 'sunset' of the Parole Commission adopted that year during the Legislative session, and later extended, was repealed a decade later.

Please note where it says the "sunset" of the Parole Commission was repealed a decade later. Parole itself was never abolished, the only change that was made was who had authority over inmate parole, the commission or the courts.[/QUOTE]

I should have added the following in my post. There is no parole for convictions on or after October 1, 1983 UNLESS that person was convicted of felony murder prior to May 25, 1994 or a capital felony prior to October 1, 1995. So anyone convicted of any crime after 10/1/1995 is not eligible for parole.

[QUOTE=Hard Working 19;1274463]You are absolutely correct. Florida has not had a parole system since the early 1980's. While there may still be some convicts on parole, they are supervised by probation officers who are employed by the state Department of Corrections.[/QUOTE]

Hard Working. I am done with you. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You are right about everything, everyone else is wrong. I went back and looked at all your posts. You have a history of verbally attacking everyone who you don`t agree with. You can`t simply disagree, you have to go on the offensive and attack people. I also noticed something else. You have attacked me a few times before, going back to April of 2010. I think you enjoy attacking people, it seems to be your pattern. From this point on, as far as I am concerned, you don`t exist. Everyone else, have a good day.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1273864]6-If sent to[b] jail[/b], it is up to the DOC to house, feed, and keep the convicted person behind bars until either the sentence has been served,[/quote]Since you want to dot the all "I"s and cross all the "T"s, [b]Jails[/b] Are run by the County Sheriff's Office not the DOC. The DOC runs the State [b]Prisons[/b].

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1274271]THIS IS NOT TRUE. I know a SW that I have been seeing for over 2 years now. She had a clean record. 1st arrest for prostitution was a misdemeanor. 2nd arrest was also a misdemeanor. She fulfilled her obligations related to her arrests. Her 3rd arrest was a felony. She had no other open cases against her for anything. When you are released on probation or parole, it is made very clear to you that you are to have NO negative contact with LE. Also, the bail for 1st arrest is $250, 2nd arrest is $500. 3rd arrest you MUST see a judge before you can bail out. As I said, this is not my opinion but it is coming straight from a SW. Now, what I have also noticed is that you have an arrest record for a misdemeanor only, if you keep your ass clean for a blank amout of time, a 2nd arrest for a misdemeanor for the same offense will be treated as a first offense, which would mean lower bail.[/QUOTE]Actually what I stated is true. I don't want to continue an endless banter about this topic, so this will be my last post on this issue. I apologize if my first post wasn't clear because It seems like you said almost the same thing anyway.

Hopefully this post will be clearer than my first one. A first prostitution offense and 2nd prostitution would be treated as a misdemeanors. A 3rd prostitution offense would be considered a felony charge. This is how the Florida statute reads. It doesn't matter if the probation is ended or not on the previous charge (s).

In other words, under current Florida law, a streetwalker cannot have 10 charges for prostitution that are 3 years apart and have them all be misdemeanors (just because she is not on active probation). Unless someone REALLY screws up when filing the arrest report.

Now, are there situations where an arresting officer makes an error and arrests a streetwalker and charges her with a felony incorrectly (like on a 2nd offense for example)----sure. I have seen this happen on a couple occasions when reviewing records for some girls. These are isolated incidents, though. In these situations, any public defender with a pulse will be able to have that charge corrected before it goes in front of the judge.

When you were talking about the whole probation issue, it seems like the level of edification provided to you by your streetwalker friend led you astray a bit. Based on your earlier post, I thought that she (and you) may have been confused because she was on probation and got arrested again and thought that is why she had a felony charge. This is what I had attempted to clear up for you both. You had stated in your earlier post that:

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1274271]The purpose of being charged with VOP prostitution is so that the charge can be upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony. Prostitution by itself is a misdemeanor for your first or second arrest. If you are out on parole for ANYTHING and you get caught committing another misdemeanor your arrest is upgraded to a felony and you could seriously be looking at jail time. .[/QUOTE]Its not the fact that they are on probation that makes the 3rd charge a felony, quite simply it's the fact that it is just that----the 3rd offense. I think this is where you and your streetwalker friend may have got confused. The legal system is not designed to put people on probation so that a new charge can be 'upgraded'.

Obviously, a lot of this legal stuff can get complicated, and I can understand if you don't take my word for it. My advice would be to call one of the lawyers in the yellow pages anonymously and ask them about these issues. They will verify these exact same facts for you. Otherwise everyone is just going to keep going around in circles on this topic which has about played itself out at this point.

Best of luck and be safe.

Sorry SpeedRacer29, StellThunder is right. You can look on-line and there is plenty of legal site. Also mug-shot-dot-com have a section with all of the law pertaining to prostitution and you can read it yourself.

[QUOTE=SteelThunder; 1274758]Actually what I stated is true. I don't want to continue an endless banter about this topic, so this will be my last post on this issue. I apologize if my first post wasn't clear because It seems like you said almost the same thing anyway.

Hopefully this post will be clearer than my first one. A first prostitution offense and 2nd prostitution would be treated as a misdemeanors. A 3rd prostitution offense would be considered a felony charge. This is how the Florida statute reads. It doesn't matter if the probation is ended or not on the previous charge (s).

In other words, under current Florida law, a streetwalker cannot have 10 charges for prostitution that are 3 years apart and have them all be misdemeanors (just because she is not on active probation). Unless someone REALLY screws up when filing the arrest report.

Now, are there situations where an arresting officer makes an error and arrests a streetwalker and charges her with a felony incorrectly (like on a 2nd offense for example).sure. I have seen this happen on a couple occasions when reviewing records for some girls. These are isolated incidents, though. In these situations, any public defender with a pulse will be able to have that charge corrected before it goes in front of the judge. When you were talking about the whole probation issue, it seems like the level of edification provided to you by your streetwalker friend led you astray a bit. Based on your earlier post, I thought that she (and you) may have been confused because she was on probation and got arrested again and thought that is why she had a felony charge. This is what I had attempted to clear up for you both.

You had stated in your earlier post that:

Its not the fact that they are on probation that makes the 3rd charge a felony, quite simply it's the fact that it is just that-the 3rd offense. I think this is where you and your streetwalker friend may have got confused. The legal system is not designed to put people on probation so that a new charge can be 'upgraded'.

Obviously, a lot of this legal stuff can get complicated, and I can understand if you don't take my word for it. My advice would be to call one of the lawyers in the yellow pages anonymously and ask them about these issues. They will verify these exact same facts for you. Otherwise everyone is just going to keep going around in circles on this topic which has about played itself out at this point.

Best of luck and be safe.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for correcting me on any mistakes I posted or my misunderstanding of the legal system. Both of you had the decency and maturity to do it a friendly manner without being hostile or arrogant or resort to name calling. More people should follow your lead.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1274662]Hard Working. I am done with you. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You are right about everything, everyone else is wrong. I went back and looked at all your posts. You have a history of verbally attacking everyone who you don`t agree with. You can`t simply disagree, you have to go on the offensive and attack people. I also noticed something else. You have attacked me a few times before, going back to April of 2010. I think you enjoy attacking people, it seems to be your pattern. From this point on, as far as I am concerned, you don`t exist. Everyone else, have a good day.[/QUOTE]That seems to be the modus operandi with him for sure. Someone must have peed in his cornflakes.

Good. Be done with me. My history is correcting people who post misinformation that could lead to others getting in trouble. You get your legal training from listening to street walkers tell tales and reading arrest reports on a sheriff's web site. Of course, a hooker would never lie. I got mine from a well respected local university. And just forget about your statement to publicly apologise. An apology from you would be meaningless.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1274662]Hard Working. I am done with you. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You are right about everything, everyone else is wrong. I went back and looked at all your posts. You have a history of verbally attacking everyone who you don`t agree with. You can`t simply disagree, you have to go on the offensive and attack people. I also noticed something else. You have attacked me a few times before, going back to April of 2010. I think you enjoy attacking people, it seems to be your pattern. From this point on, as far as I am concerned, you don`t exist. Everyone else, have a good day.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Antique; 1328845]"Date: 2011-12-01, 5:01PM EST.

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