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[QUOTE=IndyAnon;2956619]When you break the rules and A2 has to sit you down for a "Come to Jesus talk" don't spit in his face.
No one here would tolerate someone doing that in their own house.[/QUOTE]No one here tolerates harassing and stalking another provider and posting everywhere they travel to simply because of difference in opinion on things and NOT about performance.
[QUOTE=Mmgeg;2956703]No one here tolerates harassing and stalking another provider and posting everywhere they travel to simply because of difference in opinion on things and NOT about performance.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Again, in blue. Saying don't see somebody is not stalking. Saying, her pussy stinks don't see her is not stalking. Saying that repeatedly is not stalking. Because a chick doesn't like it doesn't make it stalking. Stalking involves the person not a screen name. Following her to Ohio and sitting in his car outside of her hotel, stalking, shadowing her facebook? Stalking. (facebook is who she actually is) Giving a lot of bad reports on a sex forum after he has seen her and he thinks her services suck? Not stalking. Douchey maybe but not stalking which was why I told him BEFORE I read the post that got her banned
Quoting my own PM: "Yes and I think you have said all you need to say about the chick in question. Your views are well known. We don't allow guys to carry out personal vendettas against providers always shadowing all their posts running them down. You have said what you need to say now move on" To which he replied "understood."
Again sent BEFORE I read her post that got her banned. Had she done as I asked, MANY FUCKING TIMES, the problem would be solved, she brought this on herself.
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[QUOTE=Admin2;2956584][BLUE]In blue as well:
Yes, chicks can be involved in the conversation on fight threads. Look at Orlando, Boston, Cincy, fucking all of them. Chicks CANNOT fingerwag members on the review threads. It's not because we don't like chicks. It's because this is a fucking business and our business is giving you guys, all you guys, a place to not have to worry about what chicks think of the information you post. At the end of the day that's what it's all about.
I fucking told her, I threw flags, I fucking wasted my time sending her PM's telling her to knock it the fuck off. Sadly she's obviously one of those people that see any kind of civility as weakness to be exploited.
This is what she posted in her latest round after she tried to export her bullshit to another city
She mistook me for one of the guys that like sticking their noses up her ass. People don't have to treat me with respect, what they can't do is openly treat me with disrespect. Chicks aren't members, guys are members. Chicks get access to the 400,000 guys we have put together, and they get that for free. She acted like the asshole that complains about the free beer at a superbowl party because it's not the beer he likes. Fuck that. She knew she shouldn't do it, she did it, and tried to treat me like a fucking punk while she did it. Again A2 says fuck that.
A2
I wanted to add something to this. This isn't just because she's a chick. I said that she treated me with disrespect and that's not really the issue after thinking about it. She treated the forum with contempt and that's the issue. In the past I have banned LONG TERM members because they wouldn't stop breaking a rule. One guy that comes to mind seemed to have a fetish for posting STD reports. I took the time to explain why we have the rule, told him what would happen if he didn't stop, finally told him "I don't care if you agree, it's Jackson's rule, this is his forum, if you want to be here then it's what you got to do. He didn't, posted something like the above and I had to run him. There are people that give you no choice. They don't understand how to be a guest in somebody else's house and will do whatever the fuck they feel like doing, whenever the fuck they feel like doing it and fuck you if you don't like it.
I won't have it from members, I won't have it from chicks, the only person that gets to do whatever the fuck they feel like doing here is Jax. The rest of us have to play by his rules because it's his ball, his bat, and his fucking field. Simple as fucking that.
A2 (again)[/BLUE][/QUOTE]There are rules and regulations. I think from a provider point of view sometimes opinions we take a little personal and especially if a member is being malicious and not actually reporting or reviewing the facts, we as providers knows this happens and we see it on the board all the time yet it still doesn't take away the sting sometimes. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes and we certainly respect that. In all fairness I must say and I'm being very neautral. I don't believe she meant to disrespect you and I can understand how it can read but I believe that it was more of fustration and emotional post more than anything. Lots of these providers this is their livelihood and do this full time and depend on reviews, etc for their business. When one person goes over and beyond to be vindictive just because of NOT because of performance it does hurt their business. Other reports are valid. Opinions are valid and sometimes us providers let our emotions get the best of us. Hello we are Chicks! LOL.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2956584][BLUE]In blue as well:
Yes, chicks can be involved in the conversation on fight threads. Look at Orlando, Boston, Cincy, fucking all of them. Chicks CANNOT fingerwag members on the review threads. It's not because we don't like chicks. It's because this is a fucking business and our business is giving you guys, all you guys, a place to not have to worry about what chicks think of the information you post. At the end of the day that's what it's all about.
I fucking told her, I threw flags, I fucking wasted my time sending her PM's telling her to knock it the fuck off. Sadly she's obviously one of those people that see any kind of civility as weakness to be exploited.
This is what she posted in her latest round after she tried to export her bullshit to another city
She mistook me for one of the guys that like sticking their noses up her ass. People don't have to treat me with respect, what they can't do is openly treat me with disrespect. Chicks aren't members, guys are members. Chicks get access to the 400,000 guys we have put together, and they get that for free. She acted like the asshole that complains about the free beer at a superbowl party because it's not the beer he likes. Fuck that. She knew she shouldn't do it, she did it, and tried to treat me like a fucking punk while she did it. Again A2 says fuck that.
A2
I wanted to add something to this. This isn't just because she's a chick. I said that she treated me with disrespect and that's not really the issue after thinking about it. She treated the forum with contempt and that's the issue. In the past I have banned LONG TERM members because they wouldn't stop breaking a rule. One guy that comes to mind seemed to have a fetish for posting STD reports. I took the time to explain why we have the rule, told him what would happen if he didn't stop, finally told him "I don't care if you agree, it's Jackson's rule, this is his forum, if you want to be here then it's what you got to do. He didn't, posted something like the above and I had to run him. There are people that give you no choice. They don't understand how to be a guest in somebody else's house and will do whatever the fuck they feel like doing, whenever the fuck they feel like doing it and fuck you if you don't like it.
I won't have it from members, I won't have it from chicks, the only person that gets to do whatever the fuck they feel like doing here is Jax. The rest of us have to play by his rules because it's his ball, his bat, and his fucking field. Simple as fucking that.
A2 (again)[/BLUE][/QUOTE]About your addition. Fair enough. As a user we hear that it's a guys forum a lot, and I personally want voices on both sides if they are in fact welcome. But I understand chronic rule breakers have to eventually be dealt with.
My theory about this sort of thing. And not specifically to this site. Is that the more rules put in place, the more there are to be broken, so create rules judiciously. But I also want no part in moderating an online forum anymore. Tried that a couple times and don't envy those that do it. Your site, your rules, your punishment to dole out.
[QUOTE=Mmgeg;2956725]There are rules and regulations. I think from a provider point of view sometimes opinions we take a little personal and especially if a member is being malicious and not actually reporting or reviewing the facts, we as providers knows this happens and we see it on the board all the time yet it still doesn't take away the sting sometimes. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes and we certainly respect that. In all fairness I must say and I'm being very neautral. I don't believe she meant to disrespect you and I can understand how it can read but I believe that it was more of fustration and emotional post more than anything. Lots of these providers this is their livelihood and do this full time and depend on reviews, etc for their business. When one person goes over and beyond to be vindictive just because of NOT because of performance it does hurt their business. Other reports are valid. Opinions are valid and sometimes us providers let our emotions get the best of us. Hello we are Chicks! LOL.[/QUOTE]There is / was a very well reviewed provider in Bloomington, when I visited her she went by Vanessa, she changed her name a few years back because of relative issues. Anyway. She had dozens of great reviews and then a terrible review pooped up, the dude really trashed her, she replied to the review saying "sorry, I must of had an off day, I enjoyed my time with you, I really wish you would have enjoyed me as well" total class and really defused the guy, he ended up seeing her again (she offered a freepeat) and he recanted his review saying she was his new ATF, I think the way Vanessa handled it was perfect, most ladies would have been combative and it always ends up worse.
Speaking of Vanessa, is she still around,? She was hot and sweet and hot and sexy and hot and passionate and hot and mature and hot and hot!!
[QUOTE=Bob0324;2957058]There is / was a very well reviewed provider in Bloomington, when I visited her she went by Vanessa, she changed her name a few years back because of relative issues. Anyway. She had dozens of great reviews and then a terrible review pooped up, the dude really trashed her, she replied to the review saying "sorry, I must of had an off day, I enjoyed my time with you, I really wish you would have enjoyed me as well" total class and really defused the guy, he ended up seeing her again (she offered a freepeat) and he recanted his review saying she was his new ATF, I think the way Vanessa handled it was perfect, most ladies would have been combative and it always ends up worse.
Speaking of Vanessa, is she still around,? She was hot and sweet and hot and sexy and hot and passionate and hot and mature and hot and hot!![/QUOTE]It's the business. Some.
People are going to like you and some people are not. That's the cold hearted truth. I've learned that I take nothing personally. If I had a negative review I would do the same thing. Would want to rectify the situation. Would never want anyone " unhappy " kind of defeats the purpose right? LOL. I think a lot of the reputable providers try to do right if someone is not happy. My point was That unfortunately it was actually about someone that never saw the provider. The review was solely based on just being mean and almost like a personal vendetta and not an actual report. There's a difference and as providers we do get these types for various reasons and unfortunately sometimes it goes beyond that and sometimes emotions take over.
And this place has gone to hell in a handbasket.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2956331][BLUE]Note; this is in blue
Yes I banned Sara8032. I told her to keep her finger waggen off the review threads, I told her several times.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]A2 has told many members to not wag fingers or argue on the review threads, that's why there are fight threads. He has warned many on the Indy forum to take it to the Prickyard and he is tired of having to move the posts to it. There are few rules here and it's important to understand them and follow them, providers and mongers alike. Sara I am sorry to see you go, but you are not forgotten.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2956720][BLUE]Again, in blue. Giving a lot of bad reports on a sex forum after he has seen her and he thinks her services suck? Not stalking. Douchey maybe but not stalking which was why I told him BEFORE I read the post that got her banned
Quoting my own PM: "Yes and I think you have said all you need to say about the chick in question. Your views are well known. We don't allow guys to carry out personal vendettas against providers always shadowing all their posts running them down. You have said what you need to say now move on" To which he replied "understood."
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Thanks for advising us of your PM it was well deserved, just like your spanking of me regarding some of my posts in the past. ZephyrWind's post should have been moved from the Columbus BP thread to the Octagon in Cincy or the Prickyard in Indy by Sara or one of the others that chimed in for her and then, let the fight begin.
The one thing that is curious here is the "Giving a lot of bad reports on a sex forum after he has seen her and he thinks her services suck?" Now nobody really knows if IndyAnon has seen Sara to even be able to provide an accurate review. That is the anonymity of this board. However I would tend to believe that he hasn't but, since no proof is in the pudding, then we really don't know. So based on that I will add that I know of a provider that saw IndyAnon and she said it was the worst experience she has ever had with a monger. She asked to remain anonymous because she is worried about reprisals since she knows that he is following her on FB. Now is this true, or false? As IndyAnon once said "There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each differently. " I happen to believe the providers memories, however I question the memories IA shares with others about Sara.
Damn, I broke my ignore button!
By the way A2 will mongers be able to at least read the comments on the new advertising site for women, the "Ladies Room" as you call it? I just want to see how many providers that I see really don't like me licking their freckles!
[QUOTE=Bob0324;2957058]There is / was a very well reviewed provider in Bloomington, when I visited her she went by Vanessa, she changed her name a few years back because of relative issues. Anyway. She had dozens of great reviews and then a terrible review pooped up, the dude really trashed her, she replied to the review saying "sorry, I must of had an off day, I enjoyed my time with you, I really wish you would have enjoyed me as well" total class and really defused the guy, he ended up seeing her again (she offered a freepeat) and he recanted his review saying she was his new ATF, I think the way Vanessa handled it was perfect, most ladies would have been combative and it always ends up worse.
Speaking of Vanessa, is she still around,? She was hot and sweet and hot and sexy and hot and passionate and hot and mature and hot and hot!![/QUOTE]Most of what you said is true, she handled the situation with class. But there was no free-peat. I never saw her again. But if I recall some chatter about a fucked up twin sister? Perhaps I saw the wrong sister? More than one issue with family members messing things up for the hobby.
Vanessa changed her name but for the life of me I cannot remember. Was it Diamond?
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2957488]By the way A2 will mongers be able to at least read the comments on the new advertising site for women, the "Ladies Room" as you call it? I just want to see how many providers that I see really don't like me licking their freckles![/QUOTE]It's not actually called the ladies room. It's going to be a forum, like this one, that is only open to providers with ads running on the forum. I pretty much won't even be going there unless one of the chicks reports another one. There's a market for a forum where chicks can share information about you guys. Who tries to short the donation, who doesn't wash their funky ass before showing up, who tries to sneak his pecker in without a cover. That kind of stuff.
Just curious how many chicks are going to complain that it's not fair because guys can't post in there to defend themselves.
My money says zero.
A2.
[QUOTE=Mmgeg;2957289]It's the business. Some.
People are going to like you and some people are not. That's the cold hearted truth. I've learned that I take nothing personally. If I had a negative review I would do the same thing. Would want to rectify the situation. Would never want anyone " unhappy " kind of defeats the purpose right? LOL. I think a lot of the reputable providers try to do right if someone is not happy. My point was That unfortunately it was actually about someone that never saw the provider. The review was solely based on just being mean and almost like a personal vendetta and not an actual report. There's a difference and as providers we do get these types for various reasons and unfortunately sometimes it goes beyond that and sometimes emotions take over.[/QUOTE]It's a he said she said scenario, I can tell you a very well known and reputable provider (Was Lucy, now Emme) who received a bad review from me on aNotheR review site, she complained to the admin, they asked me to prove I seen her and I did, with pm's and screen shots of text right up to me knocking on her door. It took her over a year to come clean on it, and she stated that she learned and stepped up her game over that review.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2957583]It's not actually called the ladies room. It's going to be a forum, like this one, that is only open to providers with ads running on the forum. I pretty much won't even be going there unless one of the chicks reports another one. There's a market for a forum where chicks can share information about you guys. Who tries to short the donation, who doesn't wash their funky ass before showing up, who tries to sneak his pecker in without a cover. That kind of stuff.
Just curious how many chicks are going to complain that it's not fair because guys can't post in there to defend themselves.
My money says zero.
A2.[/QUOTE]There are some key points here. Guys, clean up your act, wipe your ass with baby wipes, keep your peckers covered, bring the donation required and a little more if you want to tip, last but not least, develop a really good friendship with a well known provider so you can get all the back channel info about yourself and other [B][red]A Hole[/red][/B] mongers.
Yes A2 I agree the chicks aren't going to complain because guys aren't allowed. However there sure will be a lot more "Whining" on this board because of the ladies forum and what they are saying.
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2957818]There are some key points here. Guys, clean up your act, wipe your ass with baby wipes, keep your peckers covered, bring the donation required and a little more if you want to tip, last but not least, develop a really good friendship with a well known provider so you can get all the back channel info about yourself and other [B][red]A Hole[/red][/B] mongers.
Yes A2 I agree the chicks aren't going to complain because guys aren't allowed. However there sure will be a lot more "Whining" on this board because of the ladies forum and what they are saying.[/QUOTE]Would want guys to speak up? Chicks can be the same way as guys and be as vindictive and hold a personal vendetta just like guys do. It goes both ways. Just saying.
Vanessa hasn't posted for a long time, she got married and stopped, her sister Tessa is visiting the gray bar motel, but she still has a cozen that pops up once in a while.
BG,
[QUOTE=Bob0324;2957058]There is / was a very well reviewed provider in Bloomington, when I visited her she went by Vanessa, she changed her name a few years back because of relative issues. Anyway. She had dozens of great reviews and then a terrible review pooped up, the dude really trashed her, she replied to the review saying "sorry, I must of had an off day, I enjoyed my time with you, I really wish you would have enjoyed me as well" total class and really defused the guy, he ended up seeing her again (she offered a freepeat) and he recanted his review saying she was his new ATF, I think the way Vanessa handled it was perfect, most ladies would have been combative and it always ends up worse.
Speaking of Vanessa, is she still around,? She was hot and sweet and hot and sexy and hot and passionate and hot and mature and hot and hot!![/QUOTE]
This should be entertaining to the girls and pass on good info for them. Probably not a good idea for mongers to be able to see what's being posted about them. Going to be alot of feelings and egos hurt. Most providers will tell you "Most guys have no clue".
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2957898]This should be entertaining to the girls and pass on good info for them. Probably not a good idea for mongers to be able to see what's being posted about them. Going to be alot of feelings and egos hurt. Most providers will tell you "Most guys have no clue".[/QUOTE]Same as with chicks and this forum.
My point was, EVERY single chick that has ever screamed that I was discriminating against women because they couldn't post their rant on a review thread, will think it's perfectly reasonable that chicks will have a forum that guys can't even see. Every last one of them.