[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3744826]Did you have a good fuuuckin Thursday? LOL.[/QUOTE]Nope. I should have called in sick and visited you!
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[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3744826]Did you have a good fuuuckin Thursday? LOL.[/QUOTE]Nope. I should have called in sick and visited you!
[QUOTE=ProVid;3738146]Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
[HR][/HR]
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.[/QUOTE]I've been in the hobby since '11 and am a VIP member of the #1 provider / client verification site on the web with 20+ provider okays and have written over 50 reviews on anoThER site. I'm not trying to impress anyone (not that anyone would give a shit), just want to establish that I've been around the block a time or two.
Yes, someone having good reviews and charging $500.00/ hr doesn't make them a great provider, been there and done that. But what I do when checking out a provider is look at the reviews, if a client gives a rating of 9 or 10, I check out the clients history. If he consistently gives out 9's and 10's like candy at holloween, I'll take his review a little less seriously. Conversely, if that reviewer has a history of thoughtfully giving out different grades, I'll give his rating a little more weight. This has helped me to find providers that dish out the type of service I prefer. I still get disappointed from time to time but it happens less frequently. When I write a review I not only relate the mechanics of my session, I try to relate the overall atmosphere.
I have not seen Molly nor have I seen the video, but I'm one of the 'most guys' that have no problem seeing a provider who is working and being friendly in the process. If she wasn't working, there would be no need of a 'donation', of course she's working. As far as finding a provider who 'enjoys fucking me on a primitive level', I have no delusions as to what's happening here, as RogerOver so eloquently put it, "if you want to test out that 'love thing', stop paying. Having said that, I enjoy a session more if a provider seems to enjoy our time together and even more if I'm convinced she does. I've also seen providers that I got the impression they wished they were anywhere else doing anything other than what they were doing- I don't call on these a 2nd time. I tried to set up a session with Molly, but she didn't accept my references for whatever reason. Her screening process is her screening process and I didn't take it personal.
There was a post in here (not sure which forum) where a hobbyist said if he was impressed with a provider, he would take them out to lunch or dinner. Personally, I'm not interested in having a meal with an escort any more that she might be interested in going out with me. If I feel a provider has gone the extra mile, I'll drop a 50 or c-note on top of the envelope on my way out. This is what she's there for and the great service is what I'm there for. Besides, I might get preferred booking status if I call on her again.
Also as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, no BBBJ is a deal breaker for me but I won't do BBFS. I know there's a chance of contracting something via BBBJ, but it's miniscule and almost automatic from BBFS.
Not looking for a pissing contest, this is just my humble opinion. Be safe and have fun, Ace.
[QUOTE=ProVid;3738146]Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
[HR][/HR]
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.[/QUOTE]I pay attention to very very few reviewers here in regards especially to appearance but also to performance. I look mostly at the ripoff reviews as I find them the most informative. There are some reviewers here I pay zero attention to as every single provider they are with is great, mind blowing etc. Some others too that describe a provider as attractive and she is, at least in my opinion, flat out unattractive. We all have our standards and preferences but a lot here, once again in my opinion, have very low standards. And to them, whom some are "highly regarded" reviewers, I pay no attention. There are about 2 mongers here I listen to their opinion. Most of the time if they rate a provider not well or so so they are attacked by the group that loves her. I pay attention the individual and not the group. So I agree that a great review on here doesn't necessarily mean the provider is great. Not only does YMMV apply to the providers, but also TWGS to the reviews. Taken With a Grain of Salt.
[QUOTE=ProVid;3738146]Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
[HR][/HR]
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.[/QUOTE]I pay attention to very very few reviewers here in regards especially to appearance but also to performance. I look mostly at the ripoff reviews, no shows, crickets and bait and switches as I find them the most informative. There are some reviewers here I pay zero attention to as every single provider they are with is great, mind blowing etc. Some others too that describe a provider as attractive and she is, at least in my opinion, flat out unattractive. We all have our standards and preferences but a lot here, once again in my opinion, have very low standards. And to them, whom some are "highly regarded" reviewers, I pay no attention. There are about 2 mongers here I listen to their opinion. Most of the time if they rate a provider not well or so so they are attacked by the group that loves her. I pay attention the individual and not the group. So I agree that a great review on here doesn't necessarily mean the provider is great. Not only does YMMV apply to the providers, but also TWGS to the reviews. Taken With a Grain of Salt. And I suppose to others you can take that opinion with me.
[QUOTE=LoveThyTitties;3745257]Nope. I should have called in sick and visited you![/QUOTE]Yea cause you would have had way more fun lmao!
Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off!
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3751414]Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off![/QUOTE]You sir are my hero. I have 0 game that's one of the many reasons I'm on here.
[QUOTE=AceJohnson;3746250]I've been in the hobby since '11 and am a VIP member of the #1 provider / client verification site on the web with 20+ provider okays and have written over 50 reviews on anoThER site. I'm not trying to impress anyone (not that anyone would give a shit), just want to establish that I've been around the block a time or two.
Yes, someone having good reviews and charging $500.00/ hr doesn't make them a great provider, been there and done that. But what I do when checking out a provider is look at the reviews, if a client gives a rating of 9 or 10, I check out the clients history. If he consistently gives out 9's and 10's like candy at holloween, I'll take his review a little less seriously. Conversely, if that reviewer has a history of thoughtfully giving out different grades, I'll give his rating a little more weight. This has helped me to find providers that dish out the type of service I prefer. I still get disappointed from time to time but it happens less frequently. When I write a review I not only relate the mechanics of my session, I try to relate the overall atmosphere.
I have not seen Molly nor have I seen the video, but I'm one of the 'most guys' that have no problem seeing a provider who is working and being friendly in the process. If she wasn't working, there would be no need of a 'donation', of course she's working. As far as finding a provider who 'enjoys fucking me on a primitive level', I have no delusions as to what's happening here, as RogerOver so eloquently put it, "if you want to test out that 'love thing', stop paying. Having said that, I enjoy a session more if a provider seems to enjoy our time together and even more if I'm convinced she does. I've also seen providers that I got the impression they wished they were anywhere else doing anything other than what they were doing- I don't call on these a 2nd time. I tried to set up a session with Molly, but she didn't accept my references for whatever reason. Her screening process is her screening process and I didn't take it personal.
There was a post in here (not sure which forum) where a hobbyist said if he was impressed with a provider, he would take them out to lunch or dinner. Personally, I'm not interested in having a meal with an escort any more that she might be interested in going out with me. If I feel a provider has gone the extra mile, I'll drop a 50 or c-note on top of the envelope on my way out. This is what she's there for and the great service is what I'm there for. Besides, I might get preferred booking status if I call on her again.
Also as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, no BBBJ is a deal breaker for me but I won't do BBFS. I know there's a chance of contracting something via BBBJ, but it's miniscule and almost automatic from BBFS.
Not looking for a pissing contest, this is just my humble opinion. Be safe and have fun, Ace.[/QUOTE]"enjoying sex on a primitive level" is not "love". I think you are unclear about the broad distinction between those two concepts.
You can have primitive sexual chemistry with someone and not even like them. And You can care deeply for someone, admire them, think they are beautiful and perfect in their imperfections. You can dedicate your life to them, and they to yours. And after all of that admiration and love, you can still have lame sex because underneath all the high-level valuation and emotional interactions, you don't have that animal lust thing.
Primitive chemistry isn't something you can choose to have or not. It can't be faked. It's not PSE or GFE. It's something else. And reviews don't help with that.
I am happy for you for your success, but what relevance does your success bring to a website where men share info so that their brethren can attain sexual satisfaction?
This is my problem with all of the reviews about UTR women who don't want to see others.
We all would be better served if you sent you review to Penthouse for their "Penthouse Letter Forum".
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3751414]Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BTBear;3753006]I am happy for you for your success, but what relevance does your success bring to a website where men share info so that their brethren can attain sexual satisfaction?
This is my problem with all of the reviews about UTR women who don't want to see others.
We all would be better served if you sent you review to Penthouse for their "Penthouse Letter Forum".[/QUOTE]That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3753167]That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".[/QUOTE]It's nice to brag every once in a while. IlvblkGrls has provided tons of great information to the site, where else will you find like minded people to share a "win" with. It's not excessive or over the top so doesn't bother me a bit.
I get where you are coming from BT but I don't think it's a big deal when it's contributing members that do it. A guy with 3 posts? yeah I'd give that a thumbs down.
[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3753167]That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".[/QUOTE]That's funny as hell, I think you told BTBear to quit being a Douchbag in the most polite manner. Maybe that's the point though, maybe he's in here trolling because he can't attain sexual satisfaction! Haha Time to lighten up, it's Friday after all.
Golfguy, playing through.
[QUOTE=ProVid;3752384]"enjoying sex on a primitive level" is not "love". I think you are unclear about the broad distinction between those two concepts.
You can have primitive sexual chemistry with someone and not even like them. And You can care deeply for someone, admire them, think they are beautiful and perfect in their imperfections. You can dedicate your life to them, and they to yours. And after all of that admiration and love, you can still have lame sex because underneath all the high-level valuation and emotional interactions, you don't have that animal lust thing.
Primitive chemistry isn't something you can choose to have or not. It can't be faked. It's not PSE or GFE. It's something else. And reviews don't help with that.[/QUOTE]ProVid is right, on two levels. I'm giving him the edge about me not understanding the difference between primitive sex and love. I still don't 'get it', hell, I just want to have a good time and if I'm lucky a good memory of a session.
On your second point, you've hit the nail on the head. The ability of my wife to have passionate sex left following the birth of our 3rd kid over 25 years ago. Researching the issue, this is common and the desire usually returns in 12 to 18 months. In the case of my wife, it never returned. After 15+ years of frustration, I threw in the towel and looked into this hobby. I love my wife and can't imagine the rest of my life without her, but that part of our life is gone and no sign of it on the horizon. Maybe taking up this hobby is wrong, but no question it saved my marriage. I know this is silly drama that I've not talked about before, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Be safe and have fun, Ace.
OK, I'm not naming names here; this is advice for all you nubes.
Sending a PM to a senior asking more detail about one of our conquests is fine. Asking for advice is fine. I try to be a helpful monger.
But seriously, I've seen every one of your posts; (and yes it's pretty easy to see every post you made) and all you do is ask how about this girl, or that girl, or who is in Florence, or how can I see so and so if I have no reviews or references.
Dammit man Read the fucking forum. Or learn to use the search feature. See some ladies, and post some reviews (so providers can look you up).
Most of all, quit relying on others to do your homework. And no, I'm not answering that last PM. Figure it out.
[QUOTE=AceJohnson;3753944]ProVid is right, on two levels. I'm giving him the edge about me not understanding the difference between primitive sex and love. I still don't 'get it', hell, I just want to have a good time and if I'm lucky a good memory of a session.
On your second point, you've hit the nail on the head. The ability of my wife to have passionate sex left following the birth of our 3rd kid over 25 years ago. Researching the issue, this is common and the desire usually returns in 12 to 18 months. In the case of my wife, it never returned. After 15+ years of frustration, I threw in the towel and looked into this hobby. I love my wife and can't imagine the rest of my life without her, but that part of our life is gone and no sign of it on the horizon. Maybe taking up this hobby is wrong, but no question it saved my marriage. I know this is silly drama that I've not talked about before, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Be safe and have fun, Ace.[/QUOTE]Ace- same here, no kids but her desire went to zero in her mid 40's at menopause onset. Our relationship is clearly better now that I hobby (not really sure if she knows or not) - I realized for many years I was simply low level angry at her-"You are the reason I don't have a sex life". Now that that is not the case, I am happier and better to her- and to myself.
My $. 02 worth.
The good dr.