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[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7190079]HX is better than nothing, but I would rather have the old way of using references. I even advised some bookers to get on HX in the early days when CV went down. They were just like HX noobs. I had to tell a booker that they used HX in an unsafe way and they fixed it. It wasn't intentional. They were just inexperienced on HX.

You can fish for / buy rating on HX, get some desperate girls to rate you. You can go back to high level quickly from new accounts if you have a posse. Higher chance of allowing the wrong guy in if not savvy with HX.

Multi-bookers system has zero benefit for me. I could already book any girls in SoCal quickly or way in advanced when they were exclusive. I don't try to get around BL. I can't trust new bookers.[/QUOTE]Yes, I tried to help one time with HX but gave up. Every person has to do what they're good at. While it is possible to try to game HX, it does not work with any OG korg I've used. Since HX works symmetrically both ways I always advise people to individually click on recent HX network ratings and see who they are. There are many guys with 100 ratings over a decade it's pretty obvious they are good network. Not hard if you love White women rather than occasional white fever. I'm not saying you need 100, maybe just 10 is enough including an org. But a long history and some recent ratings is a good sign. People don't game things years ahead of time, and if they did it they have to start over.

Wheras the borderline cases of just a few network ratings and a recent account, the OG korgs treat that as a reference and ask for more. Which is fair and no less safe in that sense. When they see a decade old account with a lot of references including other korgs, well that's better than the alternatives for a newcomer. It is always the quality of the reference that matters anyways.

I'm of the same mind. I will say neighboring cities have a different approach and vibe, sometimes in a good way.

[QUOTE=Chancas;7190031]Yup, there is a reason why M was "impossible" to get in with back in the good ole days. It also kept rates in check.[/QUOTE]That's what I'm saying. It baffles me how everyone is trying to upcharge. I get it if you are HYA and doing a short tour, then go make yo money. But if you have been here a long time or planning to do a long tour, then you lose out on your future customers. Girls make the most money off repeat customers over the long run. I can tell you I only repeated an upcharge girl max prob 3 times. All in girls at most I prob repeated 50+. If I'm going to go see an upcharge girl I'm going to wait for a new HYA to come.

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7190079]We were at Defcon 5 before 1/31 from my observation. Other bookers still carry on as usual anyway.

I felt like my concerns are brushed off or swept under the rug when I raised it to bookers. Maybe I will raise it here in the future so bros can decide if they want to go to a location or not.[/QUOTE]Yes, please do. I'm getting a bit paranoid now especially with these new locations.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7189719]By the way, I don't know why LA bookers don't instant ban drunk customers or worse.[/QUOTE]I haven't heard of anyone being blacklisted, or banned, in LA in a long time. Maybe that's part of the problem. It helps to make an example of bad actors every once in a while. It keeps everyone else in line. But today, my sense is, there's a shortage of customers. So they don't want to lose that business, even if the customer is a drunk asshole. And how effective would it be anyway if he can just use a different booker next time?

A few years ago, when blacklisting was more common, guys would openly complain about it on the various discussion forums. Others would whine about it privately to their buddies. That's how you knew it was happening. Not so much anymore. I'm sure there are some banning instances that I haven't heard about. But it seems to me it's pretty rare these days. Which is too bad. Because it's exactly those asshole customers who wind up compromising the safety of everyone else.

Yet another good reason to return to the single-booker system.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7190270]I haven't heard of anyone being blacklisted, or banned, in LA in a long time. Maybe that's part of the problem. It helps to make an example of bad actors every once in a while. It keeps everyone else in line. But today, my sense is, there's a shortage of customers. So they don't want to lose that business, even if the customer is a drunk asshole. And how effective would it be anyway if he can just use a different booker next time?

A few years ago, when blacklisting was more common, guys would openly complain about it on the various discussion forums. Others would whine about it privately to their buddies. That's how you knew it was happening. Not so much anymore. I'm sure there are some banning instances that I haven't heard about. But it seems to me it's pretty rare these days. Which is too bad. Because it's exactly those asshole customers who wind up compromising the safety of everyone else.

Yet another good reason to return to the single-booker system.[/QUOTE]There have been several through M and Julie but won't come on here publicly to say it!

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7190079]We were at Defcon 5 before 1/31 from my observation.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Defcon 5, there was a pretty big bust announced by the LA County District Attorney's office a few days ago. More than 500 arrests. It looks like a sizable amount of them happened on the Figueroa SW scene. Not the k-world, thankfully.

But, once again, we see that Uncle LEO tends to organize these headline-grabbing PR events in January, which is HT month. There is always some kind of big round-up every January. Good time to take a break from the hobby, I suppose. (Not that I could bring myself to do it.) I don't want to post the link to the news articles because it's easy to see where all the new "clicks" are coming from and then, before you know it, they will be writing news stories about this place. If you want to read the details, visit the KTLA web site and search for HT.

The 500+ arrests were news to me, but I don't often read the other discussion threads here. It's probably being discussed in one or more of those threads.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7190270]I haven't heard of anyone being blacklisted, or banned, in LA in a long time. Maybe that's part of the problem. It helps to make an example of bad actors every once in a while. It keeps everyone else in line. But today, my sense is, there's a shortage of customers. So they don't want to lose that business, even if the customer is a drunk asshole. And how effective would it be anyway if he can just use a different booker next time?

A few years ago, when blacklisting was more common, guys would openly complain about it on the various discussion forums. Others would whine about it privately to their buddies. That's how you knew it was happening. Not so much anymore. I'm sure there are some banning instances that I haven't heard about. But it seems to me it's pretty rare these days. Which is too bad. Because it's exactly those asshole customers who wind up compromising the safety of everyone else.

Yet another good reason to return to the single-booker system.[/QUOTE]It was common to BL guys who wrote bad reviews as well.

[QUOTE=Kent747;7192828]It was common to BL guys who wrote bad reviews as well.[/QUOTE]We had a korg banned from TER over it. 10 years of girls deleted off TER, you cannot find those reviews anymore to this day. The TER admin does not want any korg to retaliate against reviews, same as USAG.

I won't rehash the drama, it's all behind us now. After a while, we could once again do TER reviews for that korg. Most of us are are just here to enjoy and move on.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7190270]I haven't heard of anyone being blacklisted, or banned, in LA in a long time.[/QUOTE]

I've mentioned it before, but I have recommended girls to others in private only to find out they were banned at a specific agency. Single booker of course. He seemed embarrassed so I didn't ask why, but it does happen. Even though I was surprised, I don't judge and I assume it was some mistake or his size since he sees other girls without problem.

I've also pointed out SSG will prioritize their best customers when a top girl returns. It is smart to do. Other bookers approach it differently. This is a gray area which I think is a fair compromise. That's part of the change you describe.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7192841]We had a korg banned from TER over it. 10 years of girls deleted off TER, you cannot find those reviews anymore to this day. The TER admin does not want any korg to retaliate against reviews, same as USAG.


I won't rehash the drama, it's all behind us now. After a while, we could once again do TER reviews for that korg. But the message is clear.[/QUOTE]How would they even know who to BL.

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;7190590]There have been several through M and Julie but won't come on here publicly to say it![/QUOTE]Yup, they both have shorter fuse. LOL.

[QUOTE=Stonkz;7189633]Let me clarify. I never said all K bookers are easy to get in with. Some of these newer ones that have just popped up barely screen, not the OG ones. And out of all the bookers, SSG was the toughest for me to re-screen when I got back to hobbying after a break. And I agree it's better to pay upfront than anything but many people don't like it. I can't comment on how they treat their girls as I don't like to get involved. Only thing I hear is sometimes they miss their break. Just my perspective, as long as the girls are free to leave, it's none of my business.[/QUOTE]Just ask Ina about SSG. Oh you can't, because they drove her out of town when she changed korgs.

[QUOTE=Kent747;7192828]It was common to BL guys who wrote bad reviews as well.[/QUOTE]And that was wrong. Although, keep in mind, there have also been cases in the past where certain k-girls were targeted with bad reviews on purpose in order to hurt her business. That's also wrong and guys should be blacklisted for doing underhanded stuff like that. Unfortunately, we have unscrupulous actors on both sides of the pay-for-play business.

HapaBoy / Slider: Those dudes who got blacklisted recently -- What was the reason? Does anyone know? As long as we don't identify them by name or handle, there shouldn't be any privacy concerns in talking about the reasons.

It's interesting to me because there are signs recently that some of the more established, veteran bookers are returning to the old business model. At least in some ways, such as repping fewer girls. Some of them exclusively. And if they are getting tougher on customers who cause problems, that might be another sign.

[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7193094]Just ask Ina about SSG. Oh you can't, because they drove her out of town when she changed korgs.[/QUOTE]Oh I know about that. And quite frankly, this is something I would expect from this industry. That's why it's best not to get involved with girls, just adds stress to your life. This is America, every industry monopolizes their sector including the government. I would expect no less from one of the bosses. And of course bookers do not want to burn bridges, as with any business. I hope she does find a new agency to take care of her though as she was one of my favorites. Do I think it's ethical, of course not. But it's nothing personal, just business.

Just wanted to see if the community is willing to share intels on any FF / DTBBBJ queens in the recent batch of kgirls. I know from experience that Tifa can handle some DT and light FF. I also read that Iseul might be able to handle some slow FF as well, along with Dana and Jiyeong being other suitable options for the BBBJ enthusiasts. Appreciate any other input or experience if you are all willing to share.

My dream team from the past are Juni, Ina, Maia, and BBBJ Min. Juni was a real champ and could take on a beating with her throat (and pussy).

Checked out Tokyo Spa by the 10 Fwy.

Two cute youngish Chinese MTs about 5', fake tits, and one piece dresses. Good times and recommend. I thought CoCo was cuter and she is smaller with an inverted left nipple. She really violated my asshole with her tongue it made me gasp for air. They may try to French kiss you, but be warned that they're ass lickers that go deep, real deep with their tongues. There is more discussion over in the SGV.