Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=PoolPlayInTool;7039721]100 % fake profile. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/alondragarciamiro/[/URL] Reported to seeking.[/QUOTE]Maybe it is her. Did anyone actually see her? The country this person is from is the country the character on the insta is from.

No good did goes unpunished. This is the last time I'm posting any questions about potential real sugar baby candidate on this thread. From this moment on anything I get on SA is via PM only with people who shared with me their CURRENT SBs (not past ones, or rejects) when I wasn't on SA. Stupid I. So when this 'old enough to know better thingy is finally going to kick in?' LOL How many times do I have to ask myself that.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;7039804]Maybe it is her. Did anyone actually see her? The country this person is from is the country the character on the insta is from.

No good did goes unpunished. This is the last time I'm posting any questions about potential real sugar baby candidate on this thread. From this moment on anything I get on SA is via PM only with people who shared with me their CURRENT SBs (not past ones, or rejects) when I wasn't on SA. Stupid I. So when this 'old enough to know better thingy is finally going to kick in?' LOL How many times do I have to ask myself that.[/QUOTE]You are joking, correct? That insta has 3. 4 M followers.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;7039804]Maybe it is her. Did anyone actually see her? The country this person is from is the country the character on the insta is from.

No good did goes unpunished. This is the last time I'm posting any questions about potential real sugar baby candidate on this thread. From this moment on anything I get on SA is via PM only with people who shared with me their CURRENT SBs (not past ones, or rejects) when I wasn't on SA. Stupid I. So when this 'old enough to know better thingy is finally going to kick in?' LOL How many times do I have to ask myself that.[/QUOTE]I don't think there was any malice in the replies to your question. Folks just pointed out that the pic are most probably stolen. Checking her Instagram, she's all over the place: Ibiza, Egypt, Monaco, France, Dominican Republic, Dubai etc. Realistically speaking, do you think she'd be on SA here in Boston looking for some 4-500 ppm?

[QUOTE=PoolPlayInTool;7039721]100 % fake profile. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/alondragarciamiro/[/URL] Reported to seeking.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hyperion11;7039960]I don't think there was any malice in the replies to your question. Folks just pointed out that the pic are most probably stolen. Checking her Instagram, she's all over the place: Ibiza, Egypt, Monaco, France, Dominican Republic, Dubai etc. Realistically speaking, do you think she'd be on SA here in Boston looking for some 4-500 ppm?[/QUOTE]Most of the people on Seeking are scams that use fake photos. This one asked me to call her and was ready to video chat if I were to agree in principal to her 500 ppm. I spelled it all out in my (short!) post.

Agreeing to Video Chat in my book usually means that a person who is selling her looks among other things is more or less confident in her appearance. I asked the standard question if anyone met her just to be sure and that's what I get?! Somebody gets a real local potential sb thrown out of Seeking based on fake photos?! Among all the scams that ask for deposits this was obviously the real thing. I mean WTF people! She said she was from Argentina, and sounded it too. This chick looks like a typical Argentine, gaucho hat-and-all! God damn it.

Way back then some people were wondering why I was putting people through 100 point questionnaire before sharing with them Marie's contact info (check 'blast from the past' thread)! That's why.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;7040103]Most of the people on Seeking are scams that use fake photos. This one asked me to call her and was ready to video chat if I were to agree in principal to her 500 ppm. I spelled it all out in my (short!) post.

Agreeing to Video Chat in my book usually means that a person who is selling her looks among other things is more or less confident in her appearance. I asked the standard question if anyone met her just to be sure and that's what I get?! Somebody gets a real local potential sb thrown out of Seeking based on fake photos?! Among all the scams that ask for deposits this was obviously the real thing. I mean WTF people! She said she was from Argentina, and sounded it too. This chick looks like a typical Argentine, gaucho hat-and-all! God damn it.

Way back then some people were wondering why I was putting people through 100 point questionnaire before sharing with them Marie's contact info (check 'blast from the past' thread)! That's why.[/QUOTE]Seeking really is a numbers game now, its gone alot more mainstream, sucks but you got to just be aware of the scammers and sift through the bull shit.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;7040103]Most of the people on Seeking are scams that use fake photos. This one asked me to call her and was ready to video chat if I were to agree in principal to her 500 ppm. I spelled it all out in my (short!) post.

Agreeing to Video Chat in my book usually means that a person who is selling her looks among other things is more or less confident in her appearance. I asked the standard question if anyone met her just to be sure and that's what I get?! Somebody gets a real local potential sb thrown out of Seeking based on fake photos?! Among all the scams that ask for deposits this was obviously the real thing. I mean WTF people! She said she was from Argentina, and sounded it too. This chick looks like a typical Argentine, gaucho hat-and-all! God damn it.

Way back then some people were wondering why I was putting people through 100 point questionnaire before sharing with them Marie's contact info (check 'blast from the past' thread)! That's why.[/QUOTE]If you feel that this woman is real, and is currently in the United States (in Boston), then go for it. Pull the trigger.

HOWEVER, based on a bit of logic, data points, research, US asking YOU questions, and seeing that it seems that YOU did NOT ask the "right" questions to her, all points show that something is not right here.

I had a feeling based on your original post that something didn't make sense, in terms of the typical scam flow. When you did mention about the quick & immediate phone call.

Hence the reason for the list of my questions to you of how did this actually happen.

But, you have cleared it up. You mentioned basically she would honor a video chat for pay. Well, that's obviously doesn't make any sense.

There's Snap, What's App, Seeking video chat, Facetime, Zoom, Telegram. All have quick & instant video call features. There's absolutely no reason that someone would have to "pay" in order to video chat to confirm they are a real & verified person.

Better yet. This is NOT any malice or slights against you. You should be using the data & information everyone has found & provided to do FURTHER research on her.

You got the number obviously. I would say, Keep that Conversation going & find out more details.

The last post on: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/alondragarciamiro/[/URL] was literally posted 10 hours ago of the woman at a carnival.

A simple text message I would say based on that, "How was your night last night? " "Do anything fun?" "where did you go?

Better yet, I would say, "I recently went to a Carnival in Boston. Ever been to any carnivals"? -- and simply see what they say?

Obviously, if they say that didn't do anything go anywhere, or was talking to you "10 hours ago". Then I'm confident you already know the answer.

I recently just this week, had "SurprisedGymGirle" (I reported her to Seeking. But I think her profile may still be up). Basically, the same issue. Emailed & texted, said they were going to do a video call. But suddenly needed "$50" for "hair and "toiletries" LOL. I mean who uses the word toiletries".

But I knew it was fake once I got their number & they provided me additional pics. I did the research. I wanted to play out.

Ended up being pics from this person: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/cristiana.love/[/URL] who is in LA.

I gave that profile many chances to fess up, stop lying & just to tell the truth.

This is just "some" of the information I got from them & when I called them out on each aspect of their lies. So if you guys ever see any profiles w / this info, beware:

1. You said your in Greenfield, MA. Looks to me like your in Los Angeles - [URL]https://www.instagram.com/cristiana.love/[/URL].

2. You said your name is Pamela. Then Patty. Patricia. But it looks like it's Cristiana -.

3. You said you deleted your Onlyfans explain to me why it's here: [URL]https://onlyfans.com/playgirlcris[/URL].

4. You said you don't have Instagram Looks like you were posting just a day ago: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/cristiana.love/[/URL].

5. You have a cashapp of $pattyellenarmstrong but suddenly you have another linked to: $schaefer0608 -- and you said giving your personal email address is to personal?

So, no Nrlmus, we are all here trying to help each other. And get the facts. And NOT to get scammed. And hopefully try & improve some of these platforms for better outcomes.

[QUOTE=DreplyNow;7040515]If you feel that this woman is real, and is currently in the United States (in Boston), then go for it. Pull the trigger.

HOWEVER, based on a bit of logic, data points, research, US asking YOU questions, and seeing that it seems that YOU did NOT ask the "right" questions to her, all points show that something is not right here.

I had a feeling based on your original post that something didn't make sense, in terms of the typical scam flow. When you did mention about the quick & immediate phone call.

Hence the reason for the list of my questions to you of how did this actually happen.

But, you have cleared it up. You mentioned basically she would honor a video chat for pay. Well, that's obviously doesn't make any sense.

There's Snap, What's App, Seeking video chat, Facetime, Zoom, Telegram. All have quick & instant video call features. There's absolutely no reason that someone would have to "pay" in order to video chat to confirm they are a real & verified person.

Better yet. This is NOT any malice or slights against you. You should be using the data & information everyone has found & provided to do FURTHER research on her.

You got the number obviously. I would say, Keep that Conversation going & find out more details.

The last post on: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/alondragarciamiro/[/URL] was literally posted 10 hours ago of the woman at a carnival.

A simple text message I would say based on that, "How was your night last night? " "Do anything fun?" "where did you go?

Better yet, I would say, "I recently went to a Carnival in Boston. Ever been to any carnivals"? -- and simply see what they say?

Obviously, if they say that didn't do anything go anywhere, or was talking to you "10 hours ago". Then I'm confident you already know the answer.

I recently just this week, had "SurprisedGymGirle" (I reported her to Seeking. But I think her profile may still be up). Basically, the same issue. Emailed & texted, said they were going to do a video call. But suddenly needed "$50" for "hair and "toiletries" LOL. I mean who uses the word toiletries"...[/QUOTE]No, she didn't agree to video chat "for money. " She was ready to video chat if I agreed in principal to see her and I wasn't sure at that point if I was interested. That's why I posted. The thing is that I got plenty of choices nowadays so I can afford to be lazy.

The conversation was late at night and it wasn't that short. She told me the town where she lives. It's about 40 minute drive from me. I do have her number but yesterday I got a hysterical text from her saying that I'm discussing her on some forum and to never contact her again and she's taking her SA account down. I should've never mentioned Argentina because somebody on the forum figured it out and white nighted me out. There aren't that many Boston based Argentines on Seeking. I should've known better. Here I indeed was stupid.

I got more than enough facts to know that she was real and local. I didn't expect consequences for her based on fake photos since most of the real SBs on Seeking use fake photos. Instead that's what I got from some brain surgeon on this thread with fingers on the trigger so sorry but I am pissed and of course I would never again post a link to the SB who I think might be real. I have a very long track record on this forum. I'm the guy who enticed k-girls back to Boston after BTT debacle + the old timers remember the whole Marie thing so I have a tendency to share things publicly when I experience something good, unless I was specifically asked not to do so.

Potential SBs on Seeking seem to be even more concerned about their privacy than straight forward providers (surprise surprise) so of course most of them would use fake photos if they're worth anything! Fake photos just by themselves should never be a reason for someone to rat out an sb to sa. In any case, I said my piece. You do your thing, I do my thing. I'm not the one on the losing side here.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d1e6fae0-ca58-4a26-be1f-25d9651332ed[/URL]

Not in Boston, located near Providence. Pretty flaky and not serious. Has had multiple profiles. I would recommend keeping to PPM. Will want 1 k.

Looking for some additional ideas for email open rates & responses.

SecretBenefits is just totally weird right now. I get "incoming" emails, and I respond to their email within 6 hours, but there's no follow-up by them. And these have all been women with verified videos. They have reached out to me directly. Although, it's lines like "Hey," "Hi there", "willing to have meal dates", "hey you", "open to discussing".

I have found a few trends on SecretBenefits.

1. Women always "say" they don't like the "cut & paste" emails. But it seems like they do it themselves.

2. Women seem not to realize or know that each email "Men" send cost 10 credits. I was talking with a girl, they are able to reply to emails freely, and there's no credits they have to pay.

3. On smartphones, I guess it's difficult to actually see a "Boosted Message" or new incoming messages from someone else vs. How it looks on a computer.

4. If they are emailed, they simply don't follow-up or respond. And why did they respond "first" in the first place? LOL.

5.

Email Ideas: So, some of these trends made me think of some new ideas to get open & faster responses for emails. Haven't tried these yet.

1. Has anyone tried simply sending out emails that say:

A. What's your CashApp?

B. Send me your Venmo.

C. Looking to Spoil You Now. Reply by Friday.

-- I was thinking, this may be key in getting fast responses. AND, from there, it's at least a data point for researching if the person is real. With Venmo, you can see a persons actual transactions between others.

I noticed an influx of profiles on both sites (School Season is in).

Any thoughts about these type of sending emails like that? Anyone have any other ideas?

[QUOTE=DreplyNow;7041372]Looking for some additional ideas for email open rates & responses.

SecretBenefits is just totally weird right now. I get "incoming" emails, and I respond to their email within 6 hours, but there's no follow-up by them. And these have all been women with verified videos. They have reached out to me directly. Although, it's lines like "Hey," "Hi there", "willing to have meal dates", "hey you", "open to discussing".

I have found a few trends on SecretBenefits.

1. Women always "say" they don't like the "cut & paste" emails. But it seems like they do it themselves.

2. Women seem not to realize or know that each email "Men" send cost 10 credits. I was talking with a girl, they are able to reply to emails freely, and there's no credits they have to pay.

3. On smartphones, I guess it's difficult to actually see a "Boosted Message" or new incoming messages from someone else vs. How it looks on a computer.

4. If they are emailed, they simply don't follow-up or respond. And why did they respond "first" in the first place? LOL.

5.

Email Ideas: So, some of these trends made me think of some new ideas to get open & faster responses for emails. Haven't tried these yet.

1. Has anyone tried simply sending out emails that say:

A. What's your CashApp?

B. Send me your Venmo.

C. Looking to Spoil You Now. Reply by Friday.

-- I was thinking, this may be key in getting fast responses. AND, from there, it's at least a data point for researching if the person is real. With Venmo, you can see a persons actual transactions between others.

I noticed an influx of profiles on both sites (School Season is in).

Any thoughts about these type of sending emails like that? Anyone have any other ideas?[/QUOTE]Your first email needs to include your off site contact information including email, burner phone, fake social media accounts. Tell them to send to one or all of these moving forward otherwise you will just burn through the points resulting in frustration. If they say they don't want to go to a private message off SB then just move on. Snap chat is a good one to use as most of the girls have this but IG works as well. Just don't use your actual social media profiles otherwise you may open yourself up to seeing things you don't want them to see.

[QUOTE=DreplyNow;7041372]Looking for some additional ideas for email open rates & responses.
SecretBenefits is just totally weird right now. I get "incoming" emails, and I respond to their email within 6 hours, but there's no follow-up by them. And these have all been women with verified videos. They have reached out to me directly. Although, it's lines like "Hey," "Hi there", "willing to have meal dates", "hey you", "open to discussing..[/QUOTE]I've had the same experience on SB of a lot of profiles contacting me first, I respond fairly quickly, and never hear back from them. Overall my experience on SB has not been great, it's been tough to get replies when I reach out first, and sometimes even pay extra to boost the message but still they don't seem to even open it or view my profile. I'm probably going to switch back to SA, I've had much better luck on there actually connecting with real people.

[QUOTE=FrogPilot;7042755]I've had the same experience on SB of a lot of profiles contacting me first, I respond fairly quickly, and never hear back from them.[/QUOTE]Rumor has it, and I believe it, where the site auto-sends generic "hi" or "hey" replies, not sent by the woman, when you message. And the account can be real and verified; SB women on reddit have claimed that the site has sent reply messages on their behalf (to goose response rates and to get you to keep buying credits).

The site also uses pictures and sends messages from non-verified profiles with pictures (they get from SA or insta most likely) to goose engagement numbers; I once had a profile hit me up and then when I found their snap (the profile used the same name as the snap), I messaged them. They replied, told me where I found the snap and they confirmed that the pic was them, and they claimed they had never been on the site. We had a good laugh about it but yeah, fucked up.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist420;7043067]Rumor has it, and I believe it, where the site auto-sends generic "hi" or "hey" replies, not sent by the woman, when you message. And the account can be real and verified; SB women on reddit have claimed that the site has sent reply messages on their behalf (to goose response rates and to get you to keep buying credits).

The site also uses pictures and sends messages from non-verified profiles with pictures (they get from SA or insta most likely) to goose engagement numbers; I once had a profile hit me up and then when I found their snap (the profile used the same name as the snap), I messaged them. They replied, told me where I found the snap and they confirmed that the pic was them, and they claimed they had never been on the site. We had a good laugh about it but yeah, fucked up.[/QUOTE]I've seen girls say that they had no idea their verification video was viewable. Some said they deleted their profile but everything stays up. LOL.

Unlike some of you, I have had good luck on Secret Benefits. Better than on SA.

The trick with SB is to be disciplined in spending your credits. Select profiles to message that look real and that look like girls you would actually want to be with. Don't pay to "boost" your messages, they will see it eventually. Don't pay for read receipts to see when they have read it, because I have heard those indicators are often BS. I personally do spring for the 10 credits to see secret pics if offered, but I don't ask for access to them. My general approach is to exchange a few messages and then get them to text.

SB seems to me to have more late 20's single moms who are pretty aware of what they are up to and OK with it, and less college girls who think that some guy is going to take them to sped a month on his yacht in Dubai and pay off their student loans. SB just doesn't seem to have the brand awareness among college girls that SA does.

And that is fine with me. Lots of very pretty single moms out there who could use a little help. And some not single moms, for that matter. Maybe the hottest one I have had hosted me in her apartment, but I had to wait in my car for a bit because she didn't realize her husband was going in to work late that day.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/826c9c4b-3e5d-4216-b42c-a1e81f2dc305[/URL]

This one was interesting. Claims she's married, but wants to hook up discretely. Says she lives in Cambridge and knows the Assembly Square area. Enough for me to think she's legit. Suggests having a vid chat. Great, I do like verification. Says it must be Skype. OK. So the next day we get a video going and she begins to lift her shirt and expose herself. I'm saying "Hello," but no audio on her end. Then a message appears that says, "Show your C*ck," as she pulls down her panties. I continue to talk, with no response. So I message that I don't expose myself. Still no talking. So I hang up.

My hunch? She's not local and is trying to record me in a compromising video clip. I don't pursue married women anyway, but was curious enough to agree to the video. She messaged me after and the English was just a tad off. So more than likely she's not local.