A new kgirl agency, Gangnam Secrets, has popped up. They service Los Angeles, Orange County, and San Jose.
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A new kgirl agency, Gangnam Secrets, has popped up. They service Los Angeles, Orange County, and San Jose.
[B][URL]https://www.gangnamsecrets.com/[/URL][/B]
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7176603]Ouch! That is excessive. I'm taking her off my to-do list.[/QUOTE]Been seeing it creep up, I tend to do an hour with msog for bang for its buck but will boycott anything more than 40; 50 if she's really hot. Might start going half hours. Miss Elle who had 320 with msog included.
Anyone knows what's up with them?
[QUOTE=Kent747;7188044]Anyone knows what's up with them?[/QUOTE]They are still active, their HX profile LoveStory updated yesterday. Others have booked. So this may just be a website thing. Very few people know how to update websites, so they could just be on vacation. It's what happened before in similar cases. Just a guess.
I have been in a group where out of 50 people not a single one of them knew how to update a website properly. In other groups, their website skills were from 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=Kent747;7188044]Anyone knows what's up with them?[/QUOTE]The booker told me (and I have a good relationship with them) that for now all they are handling are girls that they have an exclusive relationship with. So it's not a tech thing. But I don't know WHY they are doing this.
Booker told me the same thing as well. They said something to the effect of. "I don't want to work with girls that work with other bookers because it unsafe out there. ".
Not sure what they meant by unsafe, but it def freaked me out a bit. Maybe they feel like LE risk is high right now
[QUOTE=Alex60;7188139]The booker told me (and I have a good relationship with them) that for now all they are handling are girls that they have an exclusive relationship with. So it's not a tech thing. But I don't know WHY they are doing this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alex60;7188139]The booker told me (and I have a good relationship with them) that for now all they are handling are girls that they have an exclusive relationship with. So it's not a tech thing. But I don't know WHY they are doing this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbaka10;7188146]Booker told me the same thing as well. They said something to the effect of. "I don't want to work with girls that work with other bookers because it unsafe out there. ".
Not sure what they meant by unsafe, but it def freaked me out a bit. Maybe they feel like LE risk is high right now[/QUOTE]So what you can tease out of this is that some DID happen that the booker thought was unsafe and they want to distance themselves and mitigate any associated consequences if things go south. Whether it is unsafe to the girls, bookers, or owners, or some combination of them is unclear. Exclusive relationships usually means that they have pretty much full control of the operations not unlike a vertically integrated company. Something / someone in that operation flow dropped the ball. So now NNKG wants to keep what happened under wraps and so does everyone else.
Bookers will look after their own so you should do the same for yourself. They didn't close shop and keep a low profile so it appears that NNKG is still confident in their own girls and operations being safe. The million dollar question is which of the girls / bookers that they cross listed and worked with caused this to happen. What this means for us is to if you want / have to monger, be doubly vigilant and have your wits about you. This is just my speculation so take this with a grain of salt. AMPs sound like a mighty fine detour to me right now.
[QUOTE=Bbaka10;7188146]Booker told me the same thing as well. They said something to the effect of. "I don't want to work with girls that work with other bookers because it unsafe out there. ".
Not sure what they meant by unsafe, but it def freaked me out a bit. Maybe they feel like LE risk is high right now[/QUOTE]That has never been the biggest danger, even though it's part of the calculus. Luckily most people are there for the right reason, win win as long as that happens. East Coast several agencies had to enforce certain rules over it. It's not pleasant but a few people spoil the fun and force tougher screening.
But they are right, the multi-booker system has pros and cons and one of the cons is it creates an extra liability including screening. There are pros too, it is a trade-off.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7188168]Bookers will look after their own so you should do the same for yourself. They didn't close shop and keep a low profile so it appears that NNKG is still confident in their own girls and operations being safe. The million dollar question is which of the girls / bookers that they cross listed and worked with caused this to happen. What this means for us is to if you want / have to monger, be doubly vigilant and have your wits about you. This is just my speculation so take this with a grain of salt. AMPs sound like a mighty fine detour to me right now.[/QUOTE]Yes, everyone is responsible for safety. AMPs are important too, especially since they keep prices down and spread things out. Whereas korgs have more consistent service. It is also very regional whether AMPs are better or korgs.
Look at my [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7180594&viewfull=1#post7180594]two posts[/URL] about stalkers and LEO on 1/31 and know that bookers K and J stop booking non-exclusive girls just a few days after. Yeah I meant to send PSA with those posts.
Then check out posts after that about security guards. I have always thought security got worse with multi-bookers system. Harder to stagger and control appointments. I said before that bookers, bosses, girls, and mongers are much laxer now. You have incall where security cam is right outside, or ring cam is right next door. I heard rumbling of LEO infiltrating and get to the girls. One girl, and possibly her roommate, got busted in San Mateo cause of neighbor complaint. I think that girl was also a victim of bookers competition. Someone posted "HOE" in front of her incall when she used a new booker. Is it a coincidence when WLA got exposed then we heard guy piggyback access in PV?
Keep your eyes peeled for cams around the incall and any abnormal monger behavior as you get to the incall.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7188168]So what you can tease out of this is that some DID happen that the booker thought was unsafe and they want to distance themselves and mitigate any associated consequences if things go south. Whether it is unsafe to the girls, bookers, or owners, or some combination of them is unclear. Exclusive relationships usually means that they have pretty much full control of the operations not unlike a vertically integrated company. Something / someone in that operation flow dropped the ball. So now NNKG wants to keep what happened under wraps and so does everyone else.
Bookers will look after their own so you should do the same for yourself. They didn't close shop and keep a low profile so it appears that NNKG is still confident in their own girls and operations being safe. The million dollar question is which of the girls / bookers that they cross listed and worked with caused this to happen. What this means for us is to if you want / have to monger, be doubly vigilant and have your wits about you. This is just my speculation so take this with a grain of salt. AMPs sound like a mighty fine detour to me right now.[/QUOTE]
It is the biggest danger. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7188190]That has never been the biggest danger...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7188871]It is the biggest danger. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.[/QUOTE]
It's a circular problem. I should have clarified that I meant a few customers spoil the fun in general terms. The biggest shutdowns were from bothering neighbors. It is a domino effect. Other problems involve making the girls quit and more. Yes, there is a conflict of interest you mention I agree. Maybe that's what happened most recently.
East Coast, some new agencies tried to set up. The problem they kept running into was caused by a few customers. It led to some sad rules. Will PM one simple example.
I completely agree that multi-booker system is a liability. I posted about this more than a year ago, but change will only happen when they realize that themselves. There was a time back then when people kept saying how polite and nice multi-bookers are. Sure I prefer polite and nice, but I would even still rather have safe. For whatever reason, single bookers ban bad customers right away. Maybe switching to that is one way of doing QA better.
I am not even interested in that question. They probably won't tell me if I ask. Bookers and bosses hate to expose things to mongers, unless you are truly on the inside, or they have some benefits in leaking stuffs. I doubt this is about bad customers. NNKG even stopped updating ad on HX and listing rate. Booker J still seems to work with a few trusted bookers. I think Viola is a rebrand of Sia.
Whatever spooked them, I think all we can do is to be doubly vigilant as you said. May want to check out all the bookers who book a girl to see if you can trust them all, before booking. There are way too many rebrands and MILFs to catch my interests. I think the Kgirl scene is done if no new import in six months. One HYA import a month is not exactly encouraging. Import from the Bay is not my idea of FOB.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7188168]...The million dollar question is which of the girls / bookers that they cross listed and worked with caused this to happen. What this means for us is to if you want / have to monger, be doubly vigilant and have your wits about you...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7188895]I completely agree that multi-booker system is a liability.[/QUOTE]Absolutely gawdamn right. I've been arguing against the multi-booker system ever since I returned to the k-girl scene after taking a COVID-era break. I still don't understand why the powers-that-be decided to make that nonsensical change.
Older guys here will remember, the system worked much better when girls were handled by ONE booker only. The trains ran on time. The bookers kept the girls under control AND the customers under control. Everyone had to be on their best behavior or one of the more dominant bookers, like J, could end your career. It was a far greater deterrent to bad behavior than any threat from Uncle LEO. That kind of strict, booker-enforced discipline was important. It kept everyone safe, or at least, safer than we would be otherwise.
That efficient, functional system fell apart and I still don't get why they made the change. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7188857]Look at my [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7180594&viewfull=1#post7180594]two posts[/URL] about stalkers and LEO on 1/31 and know that bookers K and J stop booking non-exclusive girls just a few days after. Yeah I meant to send PSA with those posts.
Then check out posts after that about security guards. I have always thought security got worse with multi-bookers system. Harder to stagger and control appointments. I said before that bookers, bosses, girls, and mongers are much laxer now. You have incall where security cam is right outside, or ring cam is right next door. I heard rumbling of LEO infiltrating and get to the girls. One girl, and possibly her roommate, got busted in San Mateo cause of neighbor complaint. I think that girl was also a victim of bookers competition. Someone posted "HOE" in front of her incall when she used a new booker. Is it a coincidence when WLA got exposed then we heard guy piggyback access in PV?
Keep your eyes peeled for cams around the incall and any abnormal monger behavior as you get to the incall.[/QUOTE]So what you're saying is that it's a good time to lay low right now? Most new places I been too have cameras so I wear a hat.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7188190]That has never been the biggest danger, even though it's part of the calculus. Luckily most people are there for the right reason, win win as long as that happens. East Coast several agencies had to enforce certain rules over it. It's not pleasant but a few people spoil the fun and force tougher screening.
But they are right, the multi-booker system has pros and cons and one of the cons is it creates an extra liability including screening. There are pros too, it is a trade-off.
Yes, everyone is responsible for safety. AMPs are important too, especially since they keep prices down and spread things out. Whereas korgs have more consistent service. It is also very regional whether AMPs are better or korgs.[/QUOTE]Except the trade off is heavily one-sided. And not much beneficial to us mongers.