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Went to see her, agreed on hh for $ I get there and typical LEO check. We got down to business and she doesn't have any protection, so I get my emergency one. She tells me she loves oral so I go down DATY, pussy clean I eat it good she cums and at that moment she checks her phone and tells me that the time is up and that has another client waiting outside that I need to leave!

I was like WTF? You are not going to do anything? And she said " they have been waiting for a while can you come back a bit later? I was so pissed! Avoid at all costs!

Pics look similar but definitely not her. She is a little heavier and tattoos! Maybe they are really old pics.

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Went to see her, agreed on hh for $ I get there and typical LEO check. We got down to business and she doesn't have any protection, so I get my emergency one. She tells me she loves oral so I go down DATY, pussy clean I eat it good she cums and at that moment she checks her phone and tells me that the time is up and that has another client waiting outside that I need to leave!

I was like WTF? You are not going to do anything? And she said " they have been waiting for a while can you come back a bit later? I was so pissed! Avoid at all costs!

Pics look similar but definitely not her. She is a little heavier and tattoos! Maybe they are really old pics.[/QUOTE]I tried, usually will ghost you many times, then when you finally get in she has nothing and says she needs to have it, I was lucky and did not give anything yet. Stay away from this one 100%.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;4631359]Prepay scammer.

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Went to location then she said needed money to come out first.

Bullshit I left.

Guys do not fall for prepay.[/QUOTE]I know a regular who told me other day she accepts that now and I told her if she mentions it she is going to lose a lot of guys. She didn't realize. The scammers have nothing to lose, even if they are successful once a week they make out.

Maybe it's me, but I have a certain way of doing things to keep me safe etc. For instance, I use a burner app and I only text, never talk just incase someone is listening or recording. Never in 6 years has this been an issue. When I visit a hotel, I usually park next door incase, I'm being watched. I always delete my app before I leave the car and store everything except the agreed amount cash. So all I do is walk in with money, no I'd, no phone and parked off property, I also memorize my get out of jail number (LOL). It's worked for so far. I had been texting this lady and she seemed legit and I checked ads etc etc. Long story short, I get to an IDrive hotel and then it starts, are you a cop or affiliated with law which doesn't mean shit to be honest. I usually do a LEO check that I'm happy with. Then it's I need you to call me. This is a no go for me. I only text. The obvious thing here would be to let us know before we drive 30 minutes if you have a set of rules. I was not happy and got the feeling she was not real. If someone has seen this lady, please give a review but got a feeling if I called there would be another barrier or "give my money to my friend" type situation. At this point, I would definitely not visit until we get confirmation, even if we do, I won't go for wasting my time.

Nicole.

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What's their deal?

This ad and her friend always put ads up but never answer. I'm guessing to collect number for ads or something. Not sure what they get out of it or how they monetize it? Just curious.

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Tried texting this one and she's like what city are you in hun? I'm like where are located? Then she went ballistic accusing me or clicking different cities etc etc. She has multiple ads but when they don't know what city to answer too it's usually a scam.

So is this girl, Rachel, says she's here but when I texted from a Cali number she said she was in LA.

Get out your second number and specify denver or Chicago. If it is a scam you will se 2 different locations.

I wish these scammers could be weeded out of the USAG. I remember the good ole days when all USAG providers were verified.

Sox.

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Tried texting this one and she's like what city are you in hun? I'm like where are located? Then she went ballistic accusing me or clicking different cities etc etc. She has multiple ads but when they don't know what city to answer too it's usually a scam.

So is this girl, Rachel, says she's here but when I texted from a Cali number she said she was in LA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redsox2005;4658194]I wish these scammers could be weeded out of the USAG. I remember the good ole days when all USAG providers were verified.

Sox.[/QUOTE]Agreed, every since the new site was put up close to half of the listings on the sister site are scams. I think the ads on the sister site should be held to a different standard than a listcrawler ad. They should all be verified. Maybe charge the providers a one time verification fee to start posting on the site if the verification process is a hassle or something. I would think all it would take is a face pic holding a card with their name and date and a photo I'd would be all that is needed. If they want access to the mongers on this board they will provide what they need to and scammers won't be able to do that. Even cityxguide has verified listings so you don't waste your time contacting scam ads.

At first I didn't like the new layout, but after using it for a while it is actually better then the old site, but the scammers are making it worthless.

[QUOTE=NYTrader731;4656895]Maybe it's me, but I have a certain way of doing things to keep me safe etc. For instance, I use a burner app and I only text, never talk just incase someone is listening or recording. Never in 6 years has this been an issue. When I visit a hotel, I usually park next door incase, I'm being watched. I always delete my app before I leave the car and store everything except the agreed amount cash. So all I do is walk in with money, no I'd, no phone and parked off property, I also memorize my get out of jail number (LOL). It's worked for so far. I had been texting this lady and she seemed legit and I checked ads etc etc. Long story short, I get to an IDrive hotel and then it starts, are you a cop or affiliated with law which doesn't mean shit to be honest. I usually do a LEO check that I'm happy with. Then it's I need you to call me. This is a no go for me. I only text. The obvious thing here would be to let us know before we drive 30 minutes if you have a set of rules. I was not happy and got the feeling she was not real. If someone has seen this lady, please give a review but got a feeling if I called there would be another barrier or "give my money to my friend" type situation. At this point, I would definitely not visit until we get confirmation, even if we do, I won't go for wasting my time.

Nicole.

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What's their deal?

This ad and her friend always put ads up but never answer. I'm guessing to collect number for ads or something. Not sure what they get out of it or how they monetize it? Just curious.

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Trade up![/QUOTE]Like you, I prefer texting, not a fan of talking on the phone. That said, I have had a few providers send me a text saying that we need to have an actual conversation before they'll meet with me. As they were all legit providers with many reviews, I went ahead and called and had a conversation. In no such conversation did we ever discuss sex for money. My opinion is that the ladies that do that feel some amount of comfort from having an actual conversation with an actual person. I wouldn't do it if the lady weren't well reviewed and I wouldn't discuss any illegal activities. Otherwise, you should be good.

[QUOTE=NYTrader731;4656895]Maybe it's me, but I have a certain way of doing things to keep me safe etc. For instance, I use a burner app and I only text, never talk just incase someone is listening or recording. Never in 6 years has this been an issue. When I visit a hotel, I usually park next door incase, I'm being watched. I always delete my app before I leave the car and store everything except the agreed amount cash. So all I do is walk in with money, no I'd, no phone and parked off property, I also memorize my get out of jail number (LOL). It's worked for so far. I had been texting this lady and she seemed legit and I checked ads etc etc. Long story short, I get to an IDrive hotel and then it starts, are you a cop or affiliated with law which doesn't mean shit to be honest. I usually do a LEO check that I'm happy with. Then it's I need you to call me. This is a no go for me. I only text. The obvious thing here would be to let us know before we drive 30 minutes if you have a set of rules. I was not happy and got the feeling she was not real. If someone has seen this lady, please give a review but got a feeling if I called there would be another barrier or "give my money to my friend" type situation. At this point, I would definitely not visit until we get confirmation, even if we do, I won't go for wasting my time.

Nicole.

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What's their deal?

This ad and her friend always put ads up but never answer. I'm guessing to collect number for ads or something. Not sure what they get out of it or how they monetize it? Just curious.

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Trade up![/QUOTE]I agree with you on this one. I did not get a good vibe at all. Unless I hear different from someone I here, I won't go near her.

I have done one other duo and it wasn't great (I was a regular with one of the providers and the next time I saw her she gave me a great deal to make up for it). I decided I would try again because Lacey & Jade both look pretty good in the photos. Plus they are with each other and I wanted to see that.

I texted and the communication was as spotty, 5-15 minutes in between answers. Then they asked for a face pic, which was mentioned in the ad so not a problem for me. Get the location and head out, then get a text asking me to pick up condoms, cigs, and soda. Ugh, alright. Get there and have to wait 10 minutes before they give me the room number. Supposedly there was a flood when one was taking a shower. Finally get to the room and all starts off good. They tell me no anal anything and no rough stuff. They ask what I like. Things start off well with both of them playing around with me and BBBJ. After about three minutes they put on the cover and ask if I can start on top because she's tight. After five minutes they switch, still have to be on top because the other one is tight too. She keeps her legs up so I can't go far and seems to be grimacing in pain the whole time. Switch again and Lacey gets on top, her legs hurt after four minutes. They ask if I can finish with oral. Off goes cover and one BBBJ while other plays with the boys. They are using more hand than mouth. I ask if they can play with each other and that winds up being a chore as well. They go back to working on me and tell me there isn't much time left. The clock seems to have started when I knocked on the door. I ask them to switch and am told her arm is too tired and she can't any more. I close my eyes, think of something else and get finished with HJ. They toss some wipes on the bed and head to the bathroom. Clean up and get out of there.

Damage was $$ for 45 min, I would not repeat. YMMV, but I wouldn't count on it. Good looks but neither of them even tried to fake it.

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Tried to get in touch with her the other day but she said she had to do something early the next day so we planned it for the following day. After that it was just silence.

[QUOTE=NYTrader731;4656895]Maybe it's me, but I have a certain way of doing things to keep me safe etc. For instance, I use a burner app and I only text, never talk just incase someone is listening or recording. Never in 6 years has this been an issue. When I visit a hotel, I usually park next door incase, I'm being watched. I always delete my app before I leave the car and store everything except the agreed amount cash. So all I do is walk in with money, no I'd, no phone and parked off property, I also memorize my get out of jail number (LOL). It's worked for so far. I had been texting this lady and she seemed legit and I checked ads etc etc. Long story short, I get to an IDrive hotel and then it starts, are you a cop or affiliated with law which doesn't mean shit to be honest. I usually do a LEO check that I'm happy with. Then it's I need you to call me. This is a no go for me. I only text. The obvious thing here would be to let us know before we drive 30 minutes if you have a set of rules. I was not happy and got the feeling she was not real. If someone has seen this lady, please give a review but got a feeling if I called there would be another barrier or "give my money to my friend" type situation. At this point, I would definitely not visit until we get confirmation, even if we do, I won't go for wasting my time.

Nicole.

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What's their deal?

This ad and her friend always put ads up but never answer. I'm guessing to collect number for ads or something. Not sure what they get out of it or how they monetize it? Just curious.

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Trade up![/QUOTE]This is some really great advice. Thanks for posting this.

[QUOTE=HyperPiper;4661279]Tried to get in touch with her the other day but she said she had to do something early the next day so we planned it for the following day. After that it was just silence.[/QUOTE]I have said in prior post, if you go to see her, make plans to go elsewhere or plan to sit for a few hours waiting. I will say from the past, it is worth it. I rarely would say that about anyone. The only problem is recent reviews is saying she is starting to rush. But from prior experience it is worth the wait. I think everyone should experience it once. You are waiting because everyone is trying to go for a reason. I just advise go to her area, find stores to shop in and mess around until you finally get to see her. Sometimes it will take hours.

[QUOTE=HyperPiper;4661279]Tried to get in touch with her the other day but she said she had to do something early the next day so we planned it for the following day. After that it was just silence.[/QUOTE]No one is worth the hassle. NO ONE!! If she can't respect your time and appreciate that you want to give her business, then she does NOT deserve it! Too much pussy out there to waste your time on one.

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She wants 80$ for HEAD....JUST HEAD, in your car! And she said I had to pick her lazy ass up and that it was a "special" for the night.... Smh WTF?? Most likely an SW masquerading as a regular pro.

What happen to the good professional providers?? All I see now are greedy girls that provide shit service and EXPECT to be paid generously. What's next? Hell freezes over and pigs fly??

[QUOTE=Earl2211;4663894]I have said in prior post, if you go to see her, make plans to go elsewhere or plan to sit for a few hours waiting. I will say from the past, it is worth it. I rarely would say that about anyone. The only problem is recent reviews is saying she is starting to rush. But from prior experience it is worth the wait. I think everyone should experience it once. You are waiting because everyone is trying to go for a reason. I just advise go to her area, find stores to shop in and mess around until you finally get to see her. Sometimes it will take hours.[/QUOTE]Sorry what?? Did you say "sit for a few hours waiting?" Huh?? That is not alpha male behavior and you're only encouraging that shit behavior. She should have the decency and / or courtesy to communicate that she cannot make it or will be late. Don't EVER be a lap-dog for any of these girls! Geezus!

Don't know who you are referring to, the ad is removed. Do you have a name?

Grain 56.

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She wants 80$ for HEAD....JUST HEAD, in your car! And she said I had to pick her lazy ass up and that it was a "special" for the night.... Smh WTF?? Most likely an SW masquerading as a regular pro.

What happen to the good professional providers?? All I see now are greedy girls that provide shit service and EXPECT to be paid generously. What's next? Hell freezes over and pigs fly??[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grain56;4664555]Don't know who you are referring to, the ad is removed. Do you have a name?

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately she deleted her crap all together. If I see it again I'll repost.

[QUOTE=JJFresh;4663929]Sorry what?? Did you say "sit for a few hours waiting?" Huh?? That is not alpha male behavior and you're only encouraging that shit behavior. She should have the decency and / or courtesy to communicate that she cannot make it or will be late. Don't EVER be a lap-dog for any of these girls! Geezus![/QUOTE]Yep. 10 minute wait tops is the rule for me. If no response I'd look elsewhere.

So this is my first dream post. In my dream I went to visit Fernanda. I have seen her before on a previous visit of hers. Made the appointment 24 hours in advance. Got to her UCF area hotel and knocked on the door. She opened it but looked totally paranoid and flustered. Asking me all sorts of questions and honestly her poor english was very hard to understand. Clearly it wasnt a good scene and I was straight out of there. Will not attempt again since there are plenty of sane fish here in Otown. More to come.

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Greetings mongers,

I appreciate all the info that I've found on this forum and the International one, so If I TOFTT, the report would probably look like this:

Right to the point (1 -5 below) . There would probably be more detail in the end if one were so inclined.

1. She looks nothing like the girl in the pic. Not even close. She is short, round (not curvy! Curvy = good; round = bad), long hair, b cups, okay English, and a big ass (not a good big ass, just big).

2. She won't remove her shirt, claiming that only below was paid for.

3. very impersonal.

4. Heavy marijuana smell.

5. Lazy.

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Details of the fictitious story in my head: OK, this is the very epitome of bait and switch!

I was inebriated at around 11:30 PM, horny, and started to send out my text messages. Let me state for the record that I'm used to the monger environment in Prague (especially), Poland, Germany, and the UK. IMHO, Orlando is a dead zone!

My Expectations:

Search the sites, find a fake pic that's at least similar to the provider, start comms (maybe a phone call), and bring her over. This is far from what happened. There are a decent number of providers, but they seem to be afraid of LE or crime that they corrupt the normal communication and exchange process. This literally took about 2 hours of texting back and forth, then being ghosted by the girl on the other end, trying with another ad (same thing). Some even wanted a deposit before they came (WTF! Who does business like this? Some wanted pics. I asked for a pic first from one girl and she sent me a pic of her ass. So I sent one of my dick. Fair is fair. LOL.

Continuing: Around 2:30 - 3:00 AM, I finally got in touch with her (I forget what she told me her name was. I was fucked up) and she came over. I collected her from the lobby and brought her upstairs to my apt. When I saw her, she had on a large white t-shirt, so I would have thought, "maybe the curves are being hidden by the shirt. "Her face was okay enough to give it a go, if the body was tight! I decided to go through with it instead of ghosting her right there. Normal stuff in the apartment, I would have offered her a drink, took care of the math for 1 hour. It would have been something like. 25, then we would have went to the bedroom.

Once in the bedroom, as she started to take her pants off, she was wearing strange padded underwear, like the kind a woman wears after childbirth? No sexy underwear!! Would I have been wrong to expect this? I would have requested a massage and after about 30 seconds of a bad one handed massage, I just had to stop. No effort at all on her part to get the blood flowing. None! I'm relatively young with no problems in that area, so it's not difficult, but there was no attempt. Maybe the expectation is for a man to simply be ready. WTF! She would have grabbed protection and tried to put it on a not ready member (who does this? After using my own tricks to excite blood flow, I would have pushed her head down for a CBJ. This was bad. Lackluster, lazy, and a waste of time. She laid back to show me hers. I do like the thin spinner types, but I'm OK with a curvy woman as well. There was a lot of meat here, not good. This is when I requested the shirt to be removed, hoping it might help. NOPE. Denied. Lack of enthusiasm, refusal to disrobe, a bruise or two on her thigh? Overweight body, and bitchy restrictive attitude would have easily made me decide to go no further than CBJ. I did most of the work with my tip in her mouth and busted in the bag. Total time together about 20-25 minutes. Dressed, walked her to the door, and came to a firm conclusion. Unless it's via SA, I will not pursue my hobby in the US again. Abroad is cheaper and higher quality. In theory I knew this, but let the little head do the thinking:

Gentlemen, if I may[blue][Deleted by Admin]

Nope, you may not. You may on the provider forum on the classified site.

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[QUOTE=ForestGreen213;4673532]So this is my first dream post. In my dream I went to visit Fernanda. I have seen her before on a previous visit of hers. Made the appointment 24 hours in advance. Got to her UCF area hotel and knocked on the door. She opened it but looked totally paranoid and flustered. Asking me all sorts of questions and honestly her poor english was very hard to understand. Clearly it wasnt a good scene and I was straight out of there. Will not attempt again since there are plenty of sane fish here in Otown. More to come.

[URL]https://adultsearch.com/florida/orlando/female-escorts/1570622[/URL][/QUOTE]She's legit though? How is her service when you met her? I'm thinking about seeing her.

[QUOTE=AlexKx93;4678749]She's legit though? How is her service when you met her? I'm thinking about seeing her.[/QUOTE]Fernanda is legit but she is sort of nervous until she knows you are legit as well. Having written that, I am surprised the previous monger had this experience since it was not his first visit. When I have seen her, she is spectacular and her reviews are generally positive.

[QUOTE=DRock15;4679263]Fernanda is legit but she is sort of nervous until she knows you are legit as well. Having written that, I am surprised the previous monger had this experience since it was not his first visit. When I have seen her, she is spectacular and her reviews are generally positive.[/QUOTE]She is legit just tweeky since the hotel was very busy at the time. She may not have remember my face since it had been a while.

[QUOTE=JJFresh;4663921][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/45466436/[/URL]

She wants 80$ for HEAD....JUST HEAD, in your car! And she said I had to pick her lazy ass up and that it was a "special" for the night.... Smh WTF?? Most likely an SW masquerading as a regular pro.

What happen to the good professional providers?? All I see now are greedy girls that provide shit service and EXPECT to be paid generously. What's next? Hell freezes over and pigs fly??[/QUOTE]Sad thing is that there are mongers out there paying these ridiculous rates, that's why nowadays there are girls trying to charge $100-$120 for a qv.

[QUOTE=ShokDJ;4679408]Sad thing is that there are mongers out there paying these ridiculous rates, that's why nowadays there are girls trying to charge $100-$120 for a qv.[/QUOTE]We set the price. They do not. These girls will starve without us. We need to think with our heads and not our "other" head.

[QUOTE=BKoobs;4681049]We set the price. They do not. These girls will starve without us. We need to think with our heads and not our "other" head.[/QUOTE]Reality is that we can dictate price only so much. Much of the top shelf talent will stop coming here if the prices bottom out.

[QUOTE=DRock15;4681765]Reality is that we can dictate price only so much. Much of the top shelf talent will stop coming here if the prices bottom out.[/QUOTE]The reality is that there isn't that much top shelf talent around anyway just a bunch of hoes with gps. Valentina and friends I would call top shelf and they only get 200. Hell I haven't seen her but I think Scar only gets 200 also. For me that is as much as I am willing to pay. Most of these girls are mediocre at best and should be at 80 hh and 160 hr. There probably aren't a dozen girls around here that are truly worth 200 even. They will charge whatever your hard dick will pay though. I have been at it a long time but I can remember picking up SW for a BBBJCIM for 5 dollars 10 max. Those were the days. If we all are willing to stick together and stop supporting the gps syndrome that has taken over the hobby we could get the prices down to 80 hh and 160 hr and 200 for top shelf. Hell at 200 if they only see 5 guys a day that's a thousand dollars a day. You can't tell me girls will stop coming when they can make a thousand or more a day. Your reality is what you make it.

[QUOTE=BKoobs;4681049]We set the price. They do not. These girls will starve without us. We need to think with our heads and not our "other" head.[/QUOTE]100% agree!! The mongers are the one's responsible for these stupid price hikes. And I've also noticed how the cash app / gift card scams are steadily increasing.

[QUOTE=DRock15;4681765]Reality is that we can dictate price only so much. Much of the top shelf talent will stop coming here if the prices bottom out.[/QUOTE]HaHaHa!! Please tell me you're not serious? I'd like to know what your definition is for "top shelf talent. "

Total amateur, waste of time and money. Lives in a bad neighborhood in Longwood near Ronald Reagan blvd and Seminole Rd. Doesn't look as good as her pics, they may not even be her in the post. Totally paranoid about the police, says she has a warrant for her arrest. She is blonde with very curly hair and about 5'6" and around 130#. Lousy BBBJ and let my juices spill on me and my seat. Doesn't know WTF she's doing. No incall, car date on one of the side streets off RR BLVD. Cost me 5 Jackson's, waste of my cash because I couldn't get her to give any back before she did the deed.

Don't waste your time with this one.

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PHFJ Out!

[QUOTE=OriginalSin;4681837]HaHaHa!! Please tell me you're not serious? I'd like to know what your definition is for "top shelf talent. "[/QUOTE]I would consider Valentina and her friends top shelf. Kylie also. Been a while since they've been to Orlando.

[QUOTE=BKoobs;4681049]We set the price. They do not. These girls will starve without us. We need to think with our heads and not our "other" head.[/QUOTE]There's at least two problems with that school of thought. First, those on this board are not the only consumers out there. While it's hugely a guess, I suspect less than half of those that regularly engage in this hobby are members of this forum. If so, then more than half of the mongers aren't even involved in this conversation. Second, the consumer alone doesn't set the price. Much like we can (attempt) to band together, so too can the ladies. Hypothetically, if we tried to set the hhr rate at 100, they could refuse to see clients and say the hhr rate is 150. Then it becomes a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Sure, we can absolutely have an EFFECT on the price, but there are way too many factors involved for us to think we could actually SET the price.

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4682545]There's at least two problems with that school of thought. First, those on this board are not the only consumers out there. While it's hugely a guess, I suspect less than half of those that regularly engage in this hobby are members of this forum. If so, then more than half of the mongers aren't even involved in this conversation. Second, the consumer alone doesn't set the price. Much like we can (attempt) to band together, so too can the ladies. Hypothetically, if we tried to set the hhr rate at 100, they could refuse to see clients and say the hhr rate is 150. Then it becomes a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Sure, we can absolutely have an EFFECT on the price, but there are way too many factors involved for us to think we could actually SET the price.[/QUOTE]I agree with Jay. However, the most important part of this is the Mongers economics. A guy who is a blue collar working is definitely going to have a different view than someone making 250 K or more. I mean sometimes I feel like haggling (okay most of the time) but other times I don't have time and just want to dream. It's like buying a car, a Camry is a great car, solid and affordable. I went with an Infiniti for no other reason because I could. This is an example, I don't want a car war. However, I drive my kids jeep because it's fun and he loves the infiniti because he thinks it makes him look like a baller. It doesn't, It just gets you were your going.

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4682545]There's at least two problems with that school of thought. First, those on this board are not the only consumers out there. While it's hugely a guess, I suspect less than half of those that regularly engage in this hobby are members of this forum. If so, then more than half of the mongers aren't even involved in this conversation. Second, the consumer alone doesn't set the price. Much like we can (attempt) to band together, so too can the ladies. Hypothetically, if we tried to set the hhr rate at 100, they could refuse to see clients and say the hhr rate is 150. Then it becomes a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Sure, we can absolutely have an EFFECT on the price, but there are way too many factors involved for us to think we could actually SET the price.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with your statement. We are part of the equation. I also think part of the issue with the Orlando market is that we are relatively close to Miami. My opinion is that top shelf talent down there generally gets more money per hour and / or more clients per hour. I sometimes find it hard to get an appointment with some of my favorites down there at 200/ hr because they are so busy. If I were a top shelf provider, I probably would not frequent Orlando over Miami on a regular basis with all other things considered equal.

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[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4682545]There's at least two problems with that school of thought. First, those on this board are not the only consumers out there. While it's hugely a guess, I suspect less than half of those that regularly engage in this hobby are members of this forum. If so, then more than half of the mongers aren't even involved in this conversation. Second, the consumer alone doesn't set the price. Much like we can (attempt) to band together, so too can the ladies. Hypothetically, if we tried to set the hhr rate at 100, they could refuse to see clients and say the hhr rate is 150. Then it becomes a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Sure, we can absolutely have an EFFECT on the price, but there are way too many factors involved for us to think we could actually SET the price.[/QUOTE]I would argue that the members on this board are probably closer to the majority of business in this town. That's not counting the lurkers that aren't members yet. And as for your comment on price setting, you must've just started this hobby because it wasn't more than 2-3 yrs ago that hh rates were between 80-100, qv was 40-60, hr was 140-200 consistently!

But based on your logic, you're saying that if a good majority of us declines their ridiculous offers, that they will not budge? Doesn't make sense, but I'll go with it. So what would happen if we do nothing?

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