Massage Parlor Reports

I had a really great massage with Jackie a couple of years ago. She took great care of me and put me to bed and told me to catch some sleep. My "wake up call" was a really awesome blow job. Didn't get breakfast. Have to work on that.

[QUOTE=Virile Vito]If you'd eaten the cost of the hotel room and stayed there anyway, you might have gotten breakfast and service (again) when you woke up! Nice report, regardless.

Also, you have every right to ask for the table shower if it isn't offered. By the sound of your report she might have wanted to skip it from being so tired.[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know if Kay is still at 4s ? also any description of the new girl Janie, size,rack, etc. So it's Lisa?Mickey, Kay, Jackie & Janie there goes the rent money........Doc.

Is that the same Kay that used to work in Painesville as a stripper?

I know this is the Warren board, but it would not hurt to look at the information on the Silver Spa in the Cleveland Massage area.

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The police interviewed several guys after stopping their cars. The guys told the police they paid for sex inside the spa. The police busted the spa, and those guys will be the State's witnesses, and perhaps will themselves be prosecuted based upon their own statements.

[QUOTE=Valdez]I know this is the Warren board, but it would not hurt to look at the information on the Silver Spa in the Cleveland Massage area.

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The police interviewed several guys after stopping their cars. The guys told the police they paid for sex inside the spa. The police busted the spa, and those guys will be the State's witnesses, and perhaps will themselves be prosecuted based upon their own statements.[/QUOTE]I have a friend who is in the know about the Warren area. (They work in the county LE and we were talking the other night.)

This friend tells me that all the spas in the Warren area. 4S, Oriental, Tokyo, Suzi Kim's and all the rest are under watch by LEO.

Watch your backs guys.

I was also told that banks are being contacted about credit cards and also that this board is monitored by LE to learn as much as possible.

If you are from out of state, the FBI gets involved because of interstate transaction involving a crime. The FBI is also involved because of the people who own these places are mostly in other states or countries. If you are from out of state, and are seen entering a spa in the Warren area, expect a visit to your door from the FBI.

License plates are being run and photos are being taken.

The same thing was done in the last few years in Ashtabula county closing the three spas there. Toledo is also on the list, with one closing and more to come according to this friend. Geauga county just closed Silver as everyone knows and there is one more on the list (the one just down the road)

Loose lips sinks ships and everyone on this site did a good job letting LEO know what was up.

[QUOTE=Jeep56]I have a friend who is in the know about the Warren area. (They work in the county LE and we were talking the other night.)

This friend tells me that all the spas in the Warren area. 4S, Oriental, Tokyo, Suzi Kim's and all the rest are under watch by LEO.

I was also told that banks are being contacted about credit cards and also that this board is monitored by LE to learn as much as possible.

If you are from out of state, and are seen entering a spa in the Warren area, expect a visit to your door from the FBI.

License plates are being run and photos are being taken.

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You mean the police know the spa's in warren offer more than a great rub down? LOL! Of course they do. AMP's have been around all over the country for years & years. Truth is when the people who run the AMP's stop bribing the police, then they will shut them down. And do you think the FBI is going to visit all the people from out of state who visit a jack shack? Seriosuly? You believe this? 1000's of PA people alone have been to Ohio spas. I would hope the FBI has better things to do. Like catching Islamic Terrorists for starters. And as far as plates being run and photos being taken...than happens everyday no matter where you go or live. Big deal. Worst case senerio? I get caught screwing a *****. I think I can deal with that. I wouldn't call it the crime of the century.

[QUOTE=Streetwize]You mean the police know the spa's in warren offer more than a great rub down? LOL! Of course they do. AMP's have been around all over the country for years & years. Truth is when the people who run the AMP's stop bribing the police, then they will shut them down. And do you think the FBI is going to visit all the people from out of state who visit a jack shack? Seriosuly? You believe this? 1000's of PA people alone have been to Ohio spas. I would hope the FBI has better things to do. Like catching Islamic Terrorists for starters. And as far as plates being run and photos being taken...than happens everyday no matter where you go or live. Big deal. Worst case senerio? I get caught screwing a *****. I think I can deal with that. I wouldn't call it the crime of the century.[/QUOTE]
Thank you street! Give me a break! The only reason Silver got raided is because it's right in the middle of there town. Once the right person got wind of what goes on in this places and makes a complaint or complaints thats when leo gets involved.

There is no way that the FBI would get involved for a misdemeanor crime. The only thing that they could get this places for would be tax evasion. And as far as this board goes it has nothing to do with any of the bust.

The town that the AMPS are in are very small with no industry. The towns welcome the tax dollars that they pay. If you pay with a credit card then it's better because the Amp have to pay taxes then because they can't hide it.

[QUOTE=Streetwize]You mean the police know the spa's in warren offer more than a great rub down? LOL! Of course they do. AMP's have been around all over the country for years & years. Truth is when the people who run the AMP's stop bribing the police, then they will shut them down. And do you think the FBI is going to visit all the people from out of state who visit a jack shack? Seriosuly? You believe this? 1000's of PA people alone have been to Ohio spas. I would hope the FBI has better things to do. Like catching Islamic Terrorists for starters. And as far as plates being run and photos being taken...than happens everyday no matter where you go or live. Big deal. Worst case senerio? I get caught screwing a *****. I think I can deal with that. I wouldn't call it the crime of the century.[/QUOTE]Just passing information from a friend of mine to everyone so they don't go through what the guys at Silver went through. I bet they have a different attitude than what you have stated. And their wives I bet are not real happy.

From what I have been told, the spas are being investigated by the FBI because of the money being made and the illegal aliens being employed there.
The money is part of a larger ring of international crime that includes drugs, prostitution, and international sex slavery. So it is not just YOU having fun, but a larger picture of an international scope. That is why the FBI is involved. They do not think of it as a little matter not worth their attention.

I went through a little problem a few years ago with a place I was visiting in West Virginia and having the FBI show up at your house and business is not real pleasant. It happened to me and I can attest that I never ever went to another spa ever again. The legal and family problems are just not worth it.

[QUOTE=Valdez]The police interviewed several guys after stopping their cars. The guys told the police they paid for sex inside the spa. The police busted the spa, and those guys will be the State's witnesses, and perhaps will themselves be prosecuted based upon their own statements.[/QUOTE]
This tactic has been used all over the country. Here's another example:[post]486507[/post]. The guys who get stopped and squeal will are almost guaranteed not to be prosecuted for anything or ever have to appear in court or testify. The interviews are used as probable cause to get approval for search warrants or surveillance. They will not hold water in an actual trial because they are hearsay.

The cops may pull you over for alleged or BS minor traffic shit, and then say something like they saw you come out of the spa, followed by threats to arrest or charge you with patronizing or whatever else if you don't answer their questions.

[b]DON'T GET SCARED![/b] There is NOTHING illegal about visiting a spa. No matter what they say, they have no evidence of you doing anything illegal, and no way to prove any charges. They are trying to scare you into snitching. The more you talk, the deeper you will dig your own hole. These assholes are trained liars - don't fall for their bullshit. [QUOTE=Zhuxi]They only have on you what they can prove or what you tell them.[/QUOTE] Remember that you never hear or read the names of the guys who didn't squeal in these situations. As Valdez said, you can always tell them that you will not talk without a lawyer.

Interesting what started all this. Some neighbors by the Silver Spa were curious what really went on there. So a neighbor lady went there and asked if they do manicures, salon services etc. The employee of Silver Spa said something to the effect of "we no service ladies." Which set off alarm bells and was reported to le.

If only the employee of Silver spa said we do theraputic(sp) massages and ladies are welcome this whole thing may have been avoided.

[QUOTE=Jeep56]Just passing information from a friend of mine to everyone so they don't go through what the guys at Silver went through...[/QUOTE]The problem with this is that your LE pal is full of shit, so you're passing on false info that's no good to anybody except prudes and LE.
[QUOTE]From what I have been told, the spas are being investigated by the FBI because of the money being made and the illegal aliens being employed there. The money is part of a larger ring of international crime that includes drugs, prostitution, and international sex slavery. So it is not just YOU having fun, but a larger picture of an international scope. [/QUOTE]
These are the same lies and false but sinister-sounding charges that get repeated every time. "International crime ring", "International sex slavery", (and throw "drugs" in there just for the fuck of it). It sells, it sounds like a Hollywood mafia or conspiracy tale, its an easy way of explaining the unknown.

AMPs are an industry. These these sorts of charges cannot encompass the complexity and depth of it. They could not hope to adequately explain what happens and why. They vastly underestimate the capability and worth of those do business in it - mostly women. As if there are no circumstances, from the wide-ranging to the personal, associated with them.

But when the Feds and FBI have had to put their cards on the table in the courtroom, these charges turned out to have been a bluff - on the public and in the court. When cases have made it that far, the "sex slave" charges have been quietly dropped. The reasons why were too blatantly obvious in the government's own evidence to make their claims believable. In the most recent case, they did not even try to bring these charges.

There's nothing like the p4p industry to show you just how ignorant some people can be.

The problem with dismissing the Federal aspect of LE regarding AMPs is that the Feds [i]were[/i] involved in the recent massive southwestern Indiana AMP busts (mainly Lawrenceburg) which effectively shut them all down. From what could be gathered from the indictments, there were a lot more Federal and state LE being utilized than any local LE. In fact, I'm not sure there were [i]any[/i] local LE involved in the L'burg busts.

Although it wouldn't seem likely to be happening in Warren, the reports did state in the Indiana AMP raids that there were northern Ohio AMP connections. It's worth noting that the Toledo and Austintown AMPs were recently shutdown, too. So there's definitely a precedent. However, I don't think it was so much the FBI as INS that was involved and I can't really feature the INS knocking on people's doors just to harass them about visiting an AMP.

Regardless, it sucks that they've got all that Homeland Security/Patriot Act money floating around that they have to use to fight 'terrorism'. Coincidently, the busts conveniently just 'happen' a few months before the national election.

[QUOTE=Virile Vito]The problem with this is that your LE pal is full of shit, so you're passing on false info that's no good to anybody except prudes and LE.

These are the same lies and false but sinister-sounding charges that get repeated every time. "International crime ring", "International sex slavery", (and throw "drugs" in there just for the fuck of it). It sells, it sounds like a Hollywood mafia or conspiracy tale, its an easy way of explaining the unknown.

AMPs are an industry. These these sorts of charges cannot encompass the complexity and depth of it. They could not hope to adequately explain what happens and why. They vastly underestimate the capability and worth of those do business in it - mostly women. As if there are no circumstances, from the wide-ranging to the personal, associated with them.

But when the Feds and FBI have had to put their cards on the table in the courtroom, these charges turned out to have been a bluff - on the public and in the court. When cases have made it that far, the "sex slave" charges have been quietly dropped. The reasons why were too blatantly obvious in the government's own evidence to make their claims believable. In the most recent case, they did not even try to bring these charges.

There's nothing like the p4p industry to show you just how ignorant some people can be.[/QUOTE]Tell what you think to the judge. I'm sure he will be very interested in your view of the AMP industry. Hell, I'll bet he or she will even want to give you a medal. (sarcasm off).

The point of all the charges is to shut the places down. That's all they really want along with all the lawyers making money and the LEO's get their paycheck for doing something. In that regard, I agree with you totally.

I was told that spas in Ohio are being targeted and I guess that the only ones open now are in Warren and surrounding areas.

A few years ago, I was visited by the FBI for going to the spa at Willow Grove in West Virginia. They came to my house and also to my business to talk to me. It was not pleasant and they got little from me except it was a bit embarrassing to have the FBI over.

I could not care less if you go to these places or not. I just want everyone to know that Warren and outlying areas are not immune from the FEDS. The payoffs to the police and sheriff do no good when the FBI gets involved. And from what my LE friend says, the ax is about to fall in Ohio.

[QUOTE=DrDetroit]Does anyone know if Kay is still at 4s ? also any description of the new girl Janie, size,rack, etc. So it's Lisa?Mickey, Kay, Jackie & Janie there goes the rent money........Doc.[/QUOTE]Kay is still there. Saw her Friday. Everything was covered, even the bj.

[QUOTE=C P Guy]Kay is still there. Saw her Friday. Everything was covered, even the bj.[/QUOTE]CBJ? Fuck that. I'll never see Kay.