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The purpose of being charged with VOP prostitution is so that the charge can be upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony. Prostitution by itself is a misdemeanor for your first or second arrest. If you are out on parole for ANYTHING and you get caught committing another misdemeanor your arrest is upgraded to a felony and you could seriously be looking at jail time. FTA prostitution means you can't post bail at all until you see a judge and explain why you didn`t show up for a previous court appearence. It is then up to the judge to determine if you will be allowed to post bail.

I believe VPO = Violation of Probation not Violation of Parole.

Possibly FTV stands for First Time Violation

And anyone who listens to this kind of nonsense deserves whatever happens to them.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1272551]The purpose of being charged with VOP prostitution is so that the charge can be upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony. Prostitution by itself is a misdemeanor for your first or second arrest. If you are out on parole for ANYTHING and you get caught committing another misdemeanor your arrest is upgraded to a felony and you could seriously be looking at jail time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hard Working 19;1273066]And anyone who listens to this kind of nonsense deserves whatever happens to them.[/QUOTE]Hey Hard Working. Show me where I`m wrong and I will publicly apologize to you. I just love it when someone tells you that you are wrong but can't or won't explain how you are wrong. That`s the same as saying "I don`t know what the answer is but that`s not it". Violation of parole or probation is just that. A violation and there is a price to pay for it. Ask anyone who has ever been on probation and they will tell you that the judge told them that " any negative contact with law enforcement while on probation is a violation which can send you to jail".

You are truly a dumbass. You clearly stated that the purpose of charging someone with a VOP is to upgrade the charge from a misdemeanor to a felony. A person is on parole or probation after having pled guilty or no contest to a charge. That charge can't be 'upgraded'. It has already been adjudicated. The purpose for charging someone with a violation of probation or parole is because they didn't comply with the terms of their release. If they are found to have violated probation the sentencing judge has the option of sentencing that person to a term of imprisonment consistant with the original charge. Don't bother to apologise. Just go back to your corner and put that pointed hat back on.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1273135]Hey Hard Working. Show me where I`m wrong and I will publicly apologize to you. I just love it when someone tells you that you are wrong but can't or won't explain how you are wrong. That`s the same as saying "I don`t know what the answer is but that`s not it". Violation of parole or probation is just that. A violation and there is a price to pay for it. Ask anyone who has ever been on probation and they will tell you that the judge told them that " any negative contact with law enforcement while on probation is a violation which can send you to jail".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hard Working 19;1273265]You are truly a dumbass. You clearly stated that the purpose of charging someone with a VOP is to upgrade the charge from a misdemeanor to a felony. A person is on parole or probation after having pled guilty or no contest to a charge. That charge can't be 'upgraded'. It has already been adjudicated. The purpose for charging someone with a violation of probation or parole is because they didn't comply with the terms of their release. If they are found to have violated probation the sentencing judge has the option of sentencing that person to a term of imprisonment consistant with the original charge. Don't bother to apologise. Just go back to your corner and put that pointed hat back on.[/QUOTE]First of all, before you call someone a dumbass, learn how to spell apologize. Second, being the dumbass that YOU are, you misunderstood what I said. I never said if someone violated their probation that the ORIGINAL charge could be upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony. What I said was, if someone committed a misdemeanor while on probation, that misdemeanor could be upgraded to a felony. Seeing as how nobody else saw fit to "correct me", they all understood what I said. YOU are the only person who is lacking in reading comprehension skills.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1273424]learn how to spell apologize.[/QUOTE]Actually either spelling is acceptable, although using an s instead of z is more the British form.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apologise[/url]

[QUOTE=Longhairngotee; 1273633]Actually either spelling is acceptable, although using an s instead of z is more the British form.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apologise[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Longhair. At least you didn`t come out of the gate swinging and verbally attack me.

[QUOTE=Hard Working 19;1273265]You are truly a dumbass. You clearly stated that the purpose of charging someone with a VOP is to upgrade the charge from a misdemeanor to a felony. A person is on parole or probation after having pled guilty or no contest to a charge. That charge can't be 'upgraded'. It has already been adjudicated. The purpose for charging someone with a violation of probation or parole is because they didn't comply with the terms of their release. If they are found to have violated probation the sentencing judge has the option of sentencing that person to a term of imprisonment consistant with the original charge. Don't bother to apologise. Just go back to your corner and put that pointed hat back on.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1273424]First of all, before you call someone a dumbass, learn how to spell apologize. Second, being the dumbass that YOU are, you misunderstood what I said. I never said if someone violated their probation that the ORIGINAL charge could be upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony. What I said was, if someone committed a misdemeanor while on probation, that misdemeanor could be upgraded to a felony. Seeing as how nobody else saw fit to "correct me", they all understood what I said. YOU are the only person who is lacking in reading comprehension skills.[/QUOTE]No attacks are needed!

You are still nuttier than a fruitcake. A misdemeanor is a misdemeanor and a felony is a felony. If someone is under parole or probation supervision and trespasses, it is a misdemeanor. If they trespass with a firearm or other dangerous weapon it is a felony. They are seperate and distinct charges. The purpose with charging someone with a violation of probation or parole is to bring them back to face the judge or DOC to determine first if it is a violation of the terms of release and second if further punishment on the original charge is warranted. The new charge is an entirely seperate matter. And don't tell me when and when not to call you a dumbass.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29;1273424]First of all, before you call someone a dumbass, learn how to spell apologize. Second, being the dumbass that YOU are, you misunderstood what I said. I never said if someone violated their probation that the ORIGINAL charge could be upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony. What I said was, if someone committed a misdemeanor while on probation, that misdemeanor could be upgraded to a felony. Seeing as how nobody else saw fit to "correct me", they all understood what I said. YOU are the only person who is lacking in reading comprehension skills.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry for asking a question on here. I didn't know a troll was going to pop out LOL. My advice speedracer is not to respond. They go away pretty fast with no material to work with.

Happy day.

[QUOTE=Hard Working 19;1273808]You are still nuttier than a fruitcake. A misdemeanor is a misdemeanor and a felony is a felony. If someone is under parole or probation supervision and trespasses, it is a misdemeanor. If they trespass with a firearm or other dangerous weapon it is a felony. They are seperate and distinct charges. The purpose with charging someone with a violation of probation or parole is to bring them back to face the judge or DOC to determine first if it is a violation of the terms of release and second if further punishment on the original charge is warranted. The new charge is an entirely seperate matter. And don't tell me when and when not to call you a dumbass.[/QUOTE]OK Einstein. You need serious help. Since when does the DOC in ANY state have any say in determining whether someone is innocent or guilty? Let me explain to you how our legal system works.

1- The police arrest people when there is evidence someone committed a crime.

2-The defendant hires a lawyer or uses a public defender to represent them in court.

3-If the lawyer is not able to get the charges dropped, the next step is a trial.

4-The defendant makes a decision as to whether they want to be judged by a judge or jury.

5-If found guilty, it is up to the JUDGE to determine what the sentence will be.

6-If sent to jail, it is up to the DOC to house, feed, and keep the convicted person behind bars until either the sentence has been served,

Or a JUDGE makes a decision to release the defendant earlier.

7-AT NO TIME does the DOC have any say in whether a person is guilty or innocent, or if they violated their probation.

I have seen many women arrested for prostitution which was charged as a felony, because there was an additional charge of violation of parole. But don`t take my word for it Mr Know It All, all you have to do is scan the arrests reports and eventually you will see it.

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[QUOTE=Bushluver; 1272741]I believe VPO = Violation of Probation not Violation of Parole.

Possibly FTV stands for First Time Violation[/QUOTE]You are correct. My Bad VOP is Violation of probation.

JJ

This topic has gotten a few folks kinda worked up to say the least!

Anyway for what its worth, if someone violates their probation on a prostitution charge-just by not complying with the terms of the probation-for example she misses her probation appointments-she is not charged with a felony. This is considered a violation of probation and the judge can impose penalties at his discretion that are allowable for that original charge. It is not a felony to violate probation on a misdemeanor prostitution charge.

However, if a streetwalker is arrested on a NEW prostitution charge which may also violate an existing probabtion she had from a previous charge, if that new charge was her third arrest under the statute, it would be a felony arrest. I hope this make sense, I haven't had my coffee this morning yet.

Hopefully everyone has a good weekend and finds some good bearded clam!

Best of luck and be safe.

[QUOTE=SteelThunder; 1274199]This topic has gotten a few folks kinda worked up to say the least!

Anyway for what its worth, if someone violates their probation on a prostitution charge-just by not complying with the terms of the probation-for example she misses her probation appointments-she is not charged with a felony. This is considered a violation of probation and the judge can impose penalties at his discretion that are allowable for that original charge. It is not a felony to violate probation on a misdemeanor prostitution charge.

However, if a streetwalker is arrested on a NEW prostitution charge which may also violate an existing probabtion she had from a previous charge, if that new charge was her third arrest under the statute, it would be a felony arrest. I hope this make sense, I haven't had my coffee this morning yet.

Hopefully everyone has a good weekend and finds some good bearded clam!

Best of luck and be safe.[/QUOTE]I know a SW that I have been seeing for over 2 years now. She had a clean record. 1st arrest for prostitution was a misdemeanor. 2nd arrest was also a misdemeanor. She fulfilled her obligations related to her arrests. Her 3rd arrest was a felony. She had no other open cases against her for anything. When you are released on probation or parole, it is made very clear to you that you are to have NO negative contact with LE. Also, the bail for 1st arrest is $250, 2nd arrest is $500. 3rd arrest you MUST see a judge before you can bail out. As I said, this is not my opinion but it is coming straight from a SW. Now, what I have also noticed is that you have an arrest record for a misdemeanor only, if you keep your ass clean for a blank amout of time, a 2nd arrest for a misdemeanor for the same offense will be treated as a first offense, which would mean lower bail.