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[QUOTE=Download X;7416061]About [B]Aika[/B], she is technically bookable but as a 'special booking' meaning you must call Tora no Ana and book ahead of time.[/QUOTE]
To clarify, with most DH girls you book them normally without calling the shop. Once I was screened, it was just 1-3 texts. I've even had the girl show up as fast as 10 minutes because my hotel was that close to the shop. But for shops a few stations over, it was usually 30 minutes minimum.
Since Aika is active JAV and famous, she commands a premium. Her latest JAV are S-Tier to me, even though she was A-Tier and thicker when younger. Below, I'm going to do a photo guide of Aika showing her transition from HYA to pre-MILF. Her first JAV was 2011, her latest JAV is 2025.
[B]From HYA to pre-MILF[/B]
In 2011, she was doing gangbangs right off the bat. First two images show her at 21 years old when she still has a baby face. There are uncensored JAV from back then:
[URL]https://jjgirls.com/japanese/aika/23/[/URL] Aika
Next 4 photos are of her in pre-MILF transition, just the early stages. What an ass she had mid-career. But she has yet to develop her full style she'd be known for.
Last 4 photos show her now, including screencaps from her 2025 JAV (35 years old). She lost a lot of weight and in the video I noticed her arms have that pre-MILF tone some kgirls in their 30s and 40s have when they are still in shape. It is subtle on Aika and she is in good shape. One reason I point these out is pictures speak for themselves. When I described Baby Hami as a Hot Mom, it's easy for someone to think she looks like a ajumma when really she is a bit more like Aika and "still has it". Depending on if you like pre-MILF or not, Baby Hami is either A-Tier or B-Tier.
JAV are generally no-filter so they are photo accurate. You can see her similarity to her ad, but her ad has PS and she looks much better. Aika has had light face work done, and while there is an appeal it also MILFs her up a bit more. Face work tends to make every girl look older, even if it makes her sexier and more attractive. I've seen some girls at 25 who I thought were 30 due to it - she exchanged a pure cute face for a sexy mature face.
[B]Some pre-MILFs look better[/B]
Every version of Aika has appeal, it's quite a spectrum. All of them are good, and the 35 yo Aika is possibly the best version due to her weight loss and even naughtier look. One reason for this guide is to dispel the idea that pre-MILF = lower looks. It's totally true that by and large women lose looks past a certain age. But there are exceptions, and each woman ages differently. Aika is an exception. I've seen many women grow far more beautiful from 18 to 25, while others start going downhill right off the bat. We could make full transition guides for girls showing both routes. It's possible as Aika reaches 40 we'll see a reversal, but it would still probably be just above her HYA days when she was a bit thick and not styled up yet.
Therefore, when it comes to looks it is good enough to simply say how attractive you find the girl and what age she looks. It is just an opinion anyways, and with enough opinions people get a good idea.
Aika's vibe on camera really went up over the years. If you watch NACR-992, she has the naughtiest expressions the entire JAV. If you watch her other JAV, that's just how she is now. A certain kind of unicorn. So naturally, she is the highest Tier pricing at Legend level (she is the only one).
At Tora no Ana this is the pricing: Legend = 100k for 70 min ($662), Diamond = 50k for 70 min ($331), Platinum = is 39k for 70 min ($258), Gold = 29k for 70 min ($192). I list it out to emphasize how they are pricing her, at double the next tier over. She and two Diamond level JAV girls are by request only, meaning she is not on call to work but if someone wants to book her they can pre-reserve it. This is kind of like how some corgs have super-premium cgirls who are not at the shop but if you book them 2 hours ahead, they will show up.
I will say Tora no Ana allows foreigners but is not priced well for foreigners. In any case, we have jgirls here in Socal. But it is fun to compare and get a sense of what we are getting.
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Mh #3
Saw #3 Ayaka at Miya's. One of the better experiences I've had in a while. The girl was really cute and sweet as soon as I walked in. Even before we talked about what I wanted she grabbed my junk and was surprised I was already hard. She gave a quick preview in the shower which was nice and rarely happens to me. She is really bubbly and super friendly, her English is good enough to understand each other. But as always. I drop some elementary japanese that made her more relaxed and energized.
She's slim, beautiful white skin, and a cute face and smile. After the shower we went to the bed. It immediately felt like I was with a loving girlfriend. The way she locked her arms and legs on me, her gentle kisses, her soft moans and saying "kimochi". Goddamn I only lasted a few pumps. After the deed, she took the condom and started licking it again. Incredible girl. We cleaned up and she said she'll be here for a few more days then make the rounds at other Chinese houses.
I'll probably repeat soon, maybe opt for cip.
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[QUOTE=Senexiratus;7421041]Saw #3 Ayaka at Miya's. One of the better experiences I've had in a while. The girl was really cute and sweet as soon as I walked in. Even before we talked about what I wanted she grabbed my junk and was surprised I was already hard. She gave a quick preview in the shower which was nice and rarely happens to me. She is really bubbly and super friendly, her English is good enough to understand each other. But as always. I drop some elementary japanese that made her more relaxed and energized.
She's slim, beautiful white skin, and a cute face and smile. After the shower we went to the bed. It immediately felt like I was with a loving girlfriend. The way she locked her arms and legs on me, her gentle kisses, her soft moans and saying "kimochi". Goddamn I only lasted a few pumps. After the deed, she took the condom and started licking it again. Incredible girl.[/QUOTE]
Yes, MH Ayaka No3 is back by popular demand. She was previously MH Sa Ka No4, would repeat. I had very good service similar to you, but service is ymmv and is hard to predict. Below I will highlight parts of her description that most match your description.
[QUOTE=Download X;7412029]MH No4 Sa Ka is [B]good looking and a sweet girl[/B]. Her face looks really good at an angle and side, so I picked her next after greeting her. Long black hair, [B]pure white skin[/B]. Pear shaped body, natural B. She is a good value at 260 hh. Would repeat.[/QUOTE]
The service you described sounds just like what I got, she is a pleaser. Very good service compared to kgirl HYA, good skills. The ad photo of her in the black bikini is the closest. Her strong point is very white skin contrasting with long black hair, nice face, pleasing attitude. Her face is beautiful to anyone who likes jgirls, it's a very Japanese face. I am embarrassed to say the details of service I got but it was good, like a lover. I can't assume everyone will get that but glad you got it too. [B]It is an important concept that service is ymmv[/B] and hard to predict especially with HYA.
Her pussy is also good. 260 hh is a really good value, she is better than many other 300-320 hh girls. Of course, hh rate is where the value is at but if I like a girl enough I'll repeat her and do more.
[B]MH Ayaka No3[/B] - [B]HYA[/B]. Beautiful if you like jgirls. Long straight black hair, very white body, natural looks. 5'4", good proportions, skinny, fully shaved. Her skin is really white, good smile, pleasing attitude. Good bbbj skills. Pussy is tight, best to start slow. The cat ears ad with her pulling the white curtain is most like her.
One backup option is [B]MH Qiqi[/B]. She is more GND face, her smile is good. She is normal body just slightly thick, some tan, about 5'3", B cup. She is all natural and young, face is GND cute. Full bush. Skills are medium for HYA, I strongly recommend moving that mirror over a few inches and having her bbbj you edge of bed because her body looks the best on her knees as you look at the reflection. Submissive service and fun, she is a backup option for me.
[B]MH Lina No2[/B] is pre-MILF and not far from ad, she is good service and JAV.
[B]MH Malina No1[/B] is cgirl with a very beautiful face, very skinny, very tall at about 5'7", white skin, no tits, newish civilian vibe. Some bush. English is pretty good. I'll emphasize she is tall and skinny. She looks most like her ad photo in the grass and mountains. Lots of tongue play and good effort, but still learning on skills with a newish vibe. When she turns her face it is really beautiful. Highly looks over service, she really reminds me of one of my ATF kgirls in personality and I would repeat. She seemed very genuine, like a civilian gf. You must bring most of the service. Like other cgirls, she is strictly GFE only. Probably for face first guys.
Tomorrow is the last day according to the schedule. MH Ayaka No3 scores the highest on looks plus service with broader appeal. MH Malina No1 is best for "face first" guys who bring the service, especially if you like very skinny.
I don't have a lot of time for more detailed reviews but will leave a few tips. Names get re-used a lot, so other jgirls with similar names usually have no relation to these girls. At korgs, Yaya J and Ria J are the same girl it's just alternate names between different bookers. She might be boner approved.
[B]Special Body Types[/B]
I will be busy working on body type guides. Three special body types I like and are "hard to find" are: Team Seven, Perfect White TOAS Model, and Perfect Normal Model. Some definitions:
Team Seven - Very skinny and petite and short, but mainting perfect proportions. I.e. model proportions rather than a stocky midget. Best examples: Seb1nnn, Gingira Nanase. Rare.
Perfect White TOAS Model - Skinny, full MM tits, very skinny waist, white body, good ass, and "not short". Best examples: MH Nina, MH Cherry. Uncommon.
Perfect Normal Model - Perfectly proportioned head to toe, not skinny or thick, not short, every part very good (boobs, ass, arms, legs, hands, feet), the ideal body and model-like. Does not have to be pure white. Best examples: Go Mal-Sook, Anzu. Very rare. Go Mal-Sook's photo is attached here:
[QUOTE=Download X;7400862]Last image attached is another photo of Go Mal-Sook from behind. She has 'Perfect Normal Model' body type[/QUOTE]
Attached is Anzu's photo. Anzu is tall with perfect proportions and full tits, young with a jgirl baby face. This exact spect list is rare, but exists in Japan and occasionally shows up on tour in Socal. I've seen it both at oppai pubs as well as a few bookable girls.
There will be more girls with Team Seven and Perfect Normal Model bodies in the future.
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Saki J. Reminder
Just a friendly reminder Saki J will be in OC starting tomorrow, 10/21 until 11/01. I drove from OC to LA to see her a handful of times, so I say she's definitely worth it! Recommended to especially those looking for pretty looks, petite spinner, and great GFE with plenty of DFK. She's tight and not recommended for magnums. I already have my days prebooked!
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B purple J or Tomomi J
Anyone sampled these 2 girls. B purple seems like she is rebrand VAC Lemon J.
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[QUOTE=Stonkz;7425931]Anyone sampled these 2 girls. B purple seems like she is rebrand VAC Lemon J.[/QUOTE]B Purple J ([URL]https://get9irl.com/BabyPurple[/URL]) went by Lyla J earlier this year. Here's my review and a few other reviews.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7288601&viewfull=1#post7288601[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7290215&viewfull=1#post7290215[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7290873&viewfull=1#post7290873[/URL]
Any reason not including Ria J aka Yaya ([URL]https://get9irl.com/RiaJ[/URL]) into the mix? I'm debating on seeing her myself tomorrow.
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Ria
[QUOTE=Bribs000;7426143]B Purple J ([URL]https://get9irl.com/BabyPurple[/URL]) went by Lyla J earlier this year. Here's my review and a few other reviews.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7288601&viewfull=1#post7288601[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7290215&viewfull=1#post7290215[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7290873&viewfull=1#post7290873[/URL]
Any reason not including Ria J aka Yaya ([URL]https://get9irl.com/RiaJ[/URL]) into the mix? I'm debating on seeing her myself tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I had a good time with Ria. Small petite body with B tits. She speaks a bit of English and can take directions well. Her room is well lit with plenty of mirrors if you plan on doing the video option. She does a BJ preview in the showers and goes through the typical positions in bed.
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[QUOTE=Bribs000;7426143]B Purple J ([URL]https://get9irl.com/BabyPurple[/URL]) went by Lyla J earlier this year. Here's my review and a few other reviews.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7288601&viewfull=1#post7288601[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7290215&viewfull=1#post7290215[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7290873&viewfull=1#post7290873[/URL]
Any reason not including Ria J aka Yaya ([URL]https://get9irl.com/RiaJ[/URL]) into the mix? I'm debating on seeing her myself tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Because I already seen Yaya few times already. I like to mix things up. Don't want to be tied down to 1 girl. Thanks for the intel guys.
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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7421361][B]MH Malina No1[/B] is cgirl with a very beautiful face, very skinny, very tall at about 5'7", white skin, no tits, newish civilian vibe. Some bush. English is pretty good. I'll emphasize she is tall and skinny. She looks most like her ad photo in the grass and mountains. Lots of tongue play and good effort, but still learning on skills with a newish vibe. When she turns her face it is really beautiful. Highly looks over service, she really reminds me of one of my ATF kgirls in personality and I would repeat. She seemed very genuine, like a civilian gf. You must bring most of the service. Like other cgirls, she is strictly GFE only. Probably for face first guys. MH Malina No1 is best for "face first" guys who bring the service, especially if you like very skinny.[/QUOTE]I should mention MH Malina is currently Apple/Cherry No2. 171 cm. Very tall and skinny, top tier face, no tits. Can talk forever, excellent English.
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[B]Corg tips[/B]
Since half the jgirls are spread out among corgs, I'll add these key tips copied from another post I made:
..Chinese girls as a rule are strictly GFE only. Most Japanese girls will do bb but at a corg it is typically 200. I have seen a few say it's 300 if you want CIP, but I've also seen just a few who were 100 bb. Occasionally jgirls on repeats will do 100 but it is very YMMV (maybe 25%). They are usually happy about repeats so if at the end of your first session you are sure you will try to repeat her, ask her if you can repeat her with 100 bb.
I've never been charged for 2nd shot with jgirls, but I've occasionally heard of it. No idea, maybe it's a perk of following the Lizza guide and making sure girls are comfortable. I guess I also use advanced tactics where I feel out a girl within the first 2 minutes of meeting her. You can walk if she isn't your type or it feels off, just be polite about it as nothing personal. If you are polite, neither of you will think anything more of it and move on.
About walking, for me it's usually for looks. I'll be at the door and see her, smile, and if she's not my type I say "nice to meet you" and close the door and ask for another girl. I don't even step, much better that way. I generally always pick a girl so it's all the same to the shop. Regulars can walk without picking a girl, the shop knows you'll be back and they want regulars to be happy.
You can always on the spot pick hh or hr, it's normal not to decide until you are in front of her. Even if you say hr to booker, you can switch to hh. There were times I thought the girl was hot but wasn't sure about her attitude. So I actually asked the girl if she thought I should do hh or hr, and the way she replied made my decision. Girls are usually consistent with their reactions, or at least I've had a long streak this way.
If you feel a girl is GPS or you want to negotiate something important and she won't do it, just walk. For example some guys want COF (cum on face), but most jgirls only allow it if you are last appointment and tip since it is a hassle to re-apply make up. That makes sense to me and in any case is an example where good communication is key. Don't blame, just be reasonable and if a girl can't make you happy then walk and find the next girl. Every girl has a different policy anyways.
One last option as a last resort is to walk after the shower if there is a problem. It's going to be: Looks, attitude, or hygene. For example a girl has great face and you pick her, but then you get in the shower with her and see she has no tits and know you aren't going to be happy. In this case be polite and I would give her a 40 tip for seeing her naked and getting her shower service. Then ask for another girl. 40 is fair and good manners since you did pick her based on her face, she didn't do anything wrong. This is a common etiquette at some shops and it solves a problem. Do it within the first 3-5 minutes, then 40 is more than fair. Of course, once service starts and you've entered her mouth or pussy, you pay full rate. Another example is if you chose hr and need to end it before hh, ask for the difference back and that's fine. Do not let the hh pass if you do this. Hope all this is clear, it's normal and if you are polite and communicate reasonably it's never been a problem in my experience.
The ability to walk is a critical tool with corgs that give it one advantage over korgs. It lets me peek a girl on the spot but pivot to a second choice instead. Both corgs and korgs have their pros and cons, they kind of balance out as long as you know and use all your options. Korgs have nice hour pricing, cheaper bb pricing, more privacy. Whereas corgs let you browse a bit and make critical decisions on the spot.
Since these corg aspects make it good for "looks first" guys, it weeds out many girls especially GND face or butterface girls. Many jgirls I know are very GND face lasted 2-3 days instead of the full 5-10, even if they have fine bodies and no other issues. Whereas there are some jgirls that get invited back repeatedly. Corgs do have high service girls too of course, but the emphasis is just shifted towards looks. One other emphasis is they prefer to rotate girls more quickly. And 90% of the reviews are in Chinese. But I found it doesn't matter due to the tactics I listed above.
Each shop is different. Some shops are premium shops and less busy, and the girls are fresher with better performance. Whenever I paid for a semi-premium or premium priced girl her condition was very good. I've seen examples where the exact same girl later goes to another shop (corg, korg, or East Coast) and get worn out. So I kind of like it when people complain about the higher priced girls, because those complaints actually help me. Others have reported this same freshness difference, it's uncanny. Oh well.
A reminder that corgs have superior hh rates, korgs have superior hr rates. Cgirls tend to be priced 25% higher than jgirls and kgirls for the same level of looks and service. I did enjoy them though. There are also some high tier looks cgirls, you just have to pay premium rates for it. And ultimately, there are a few cgirls and jgirls with slightly higher looks than premium kgirls. But they rotate out fast.
I'll add that once you use the proper tactics for both corgs (door browsing+vibe check) and korgs (intel), you end up getting way better value at both. It takes a lot of practice to do either one well, but I am getting double value than I used to with lots of A-Tier girls now.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7423340&viewfull=1#post7423340[/URL] Value Formula
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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7426841][B]Corg tips[/B]
Since half the jgirls are spread out among corgs, I'll add these key tips copied from another post I made:
..Chinese girls as a rule are strictly GFE only. Most Japanese girls will do bb but at a corg it is typically 200. I have seen a few say it's 300 if you want CIP, but I've also seen just a few who were 100 bb. Occasionally jgirls on repeats will do 100 but it is very YMMV (maybe 25%). They are usually happy about repeats so if at the end of your first session you are sure you will try to repeat her, ask her if you can repeat her with 100 bb.
I've never been charged for 2nd shot with jgirls, but I've occasionally heard of it. No idea, maybe it's a perk of following the Lizza guide and making sure girls are comfortable. I guess I also use advanced tactics where I feel out a girl within the first 2 minutes of meeting her. You can walk if she isn't your type or it feels off, just be polite about it as nothing personal. If you are polite, neither of you will think anything more of it and move on.
About walking, for me it's usually for looks. I'll be at the door and see her, smile, and if she's not my type I say "nice to meet you" and close the door and ask for another girl. I don't even step, much better that way. I generally always pick a girl so it's all the same to the shop. Regulars can walk without picking a girl, the shop knows you'll be back and they want regulars to be happy.
You can always on the spot pick hh or hr, it's normal not to decide until you are in front of her. Even if you say hr to booker, you can switch to hh. There were times I thought the girl was hot but wasn't sure about her attitude. So I actually asked the girl if she thought I should do hh or hr, and the way she replied made my decision. Girls are usually consistent with their reactions, or at least I've had a long streak this way.
If you feel a girl is GPS or you want to negotiate something important and she won't do it, just walk. For example some guys want COF (cum on face), but most jgirls only allow it if you are last appointment and tip since it is a hassle to re-apply make up. That makes sense to me and in any case is an example where good communication is key. Don't blame, just be reasonable and if a girl can't make you happy then walk and find the next girl. Every girl has a different policy anyways.
One last option as a last resort is to walk after the shower if there is a problem. It's going to be: Looks, attitude, or hygene. For example a girl has great face and you pick her, but then you get in the shower with her and see she has no tits and know you aren't going to be happy. In this case be polite and I would give her a 40 tip for seeing her naked and getting her shower service. Then ask for another girl. 40 is fair and good manners since you did pick her based on her face, she didn't do anything wrong. This is a common etiquette at some shops and it solves a problem. Do it within the first 3-5 minutes, then 40 is more than fair. Of course, once service starts and you've entered her mouth or pussy, you pay full rate. Another example is if you chose hr and need to end it before hh, ask for the difference back and that's fine. Do not let the hh pass if you do this. Hope all this is clear, it's normal and if you are polite and communicate reasonably it's never been a problem in my experience.
The ability to walk is a critical tool with corgs that give it one advantage over korgs. It lets me peek a girl on the spot but pivot to a second choice instead. Both corgs and korgs have their pros and cons, they kind of balance out as long as you know and use all your options. Korgs have nice hour pricing, cheaper bb pricing, more privacy. Whereas corgs let you browse a bit and make critical decisions on the spot.
Since these corg aspects make it good for "looks first" guys, it weeds out many girls especially GND face or butterface girls. Many jgirls I know are very GND face lasted 2-3 days instead of the full 5-10, even if they have fine bodies and no other issues. Whereas there are some jgirls that get invited back repeatedly. Corgs do have high service girls too of course, but the emphasis is just shifted towards looks. One other emphasis is they prefer to rotate girls more quickly. And 90% of the reviews are in Chinese. But I found it doesn't matter due to the tactics I listed above.
Each shop is different. Some shops are premium shops and less busy, and the girls are fresher with better performance. Whenever I paid for a semi-premium or premium priced girl her condition was very good. I've seen examples where the exact same girl later goes to another shop (corg, korg, or East Coast) and get worn out. So I kind of like it when people complain about the higher priced girls, because those complaints actually help me. Others have reported this same freshness difference, it's uncanny. Oh well.
A reminder that corgs have superior hh rates, korgs have superior hr rates. Cgirls tend to be priced 25% higher than jgirls and kgirls for the same level of looks and service. I did enjoy them though. There are also some high tier looks cgirls, you just have to pay premium rates for it. And ultimately, there are a few cgirls and jgirls with slightly higher looks than premium kgirls. But they rotate out fast.
I'll add that once you use the proper tactics for both corgs (door browsing+vibe check) and korgs (intel), you end up getting way better value at both. It takes a lot of practice to do either one well, but I am getting double value than I used to with lots of A-Tier girls now.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7423340&viewfull=1#post7423340[/URL] Value Formula[/QUOTE]There are plenty of Chinese girls in the corgs who do BBFS. All the ones at the hotels do it. It's 200 for a half hour with BBFS and 350 for an hour with MSOG.
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[QUOTE=TJ2617;7427245]There are plenty of Chinese girls in the corgs who do BBFS. All the ones at the hotels do it. It's 200 for a half hour with BBFS and 350 for an hour with MSOG.[/QUOTE]I should clarify everything is referring to HYA, I don't really explore beyond that. If anyone knows a cgirl HYA who does bb, we'd all love to know. Kgirls are different in that they have HYA who offer bb and usually for 100.
Jgirls are kind of tricky because at corgs they are usually 200 bb unless you can negotiate somehow. A few are 100, a few are 300. I have heard of free and 400 but it's too rare to expect. When jgirls go korgs, they are normally 100 bb.
Of the jgirls showing up, only a small fraction switch to korgs here. But I think a good strategy is if you prefer kgirls anyways there is no need to be greedy. Just wait for jgirls to show up at korgs and pick the best ones. There are several good and young jgirls at korgs right now, only dealbreaker is small tits. Looks and service are good.
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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7427285]I should clarify everything is referring to HYA, I don't really explore beyond that. If anyone knows a cgirl HYA who does bb, we'd all love to know. Kgirls are different in that they have HYA who offer bb and usually for 100.
Jgirls are kind of tricky because at corgs they are usually 200 bb unless you can negotiate somehow. A few are 100, a few are 300. I have heard of free and 400 but it's too rare to expect. When jgirls go korgs, they are normally 100 bb.
Of the jgirls showing up, only a small fraction switch to korgs here. But I think a good strategy is if you prefer kgirls anyways there is no need to be greedy. Just wait for jgirls to show up at korgs and pick the best ones. There are several good and young jgirls at korgs right now, only dealbreaker is small tits. Looks and service are good.[/QUOTE]No offense but the Cgirls who do BBFS at hotels are literally 4-5 in looks at BEST. My dick couldn't even get hard. DLX is absolutely correct in his writeup about Corgs. There are some smoking Cgirls in that come from time to time but 90% is GFE only and you'd be paying minimum $300-500/ hr. Why would a hot young girl need to go bare when she can get just as many customers with rubber. To me, only the Ahjummas, north koreans, older Jgirls past prime in japan do BB here. It's so bad out here that I'd pay $500/ hhr for a true HYA. My dick has high standards LOL.
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[QUOTE=Undftd88;7427517]No offense but the Cgirls who do BBFS at hotels are literally 4-5 in looks at BEST. My dick couldn't even get hard. DLX is absolutely correct in his writeup about Corgs. There are some smoking Cgirls in that come from time to time but 90% is GFE only and you'd be paying minimum $300-500/ hr. Why would a hot young girl need to go bare when she can get just as many customers with rubber. To me, only the Ahjummas, north koreans, older Jgirls past prime in japan do BB here. It's so bad out here that I'd pay $500/ hhr for a true HYA. My dick has high standards LOL.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify I meant $300-500/ HHR. Also, if you are fairly good looking / young and fit and speak Chinese, cgirls tend to give out extra good service. If that's not you then you SOL.
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[QUOTE=Undftd88;7427517]No offense but the Cgirls who do BBFS at hotels are literally 4-5 in looks at BEST. My dick couldn't even get hard. DLX is absolutely correct in his writeup about Corgs. There are some smoking Cgirls in that come from time to time but 90% is GFE only and you'd be paying minimum $300-500/ hr. Why would a hot young girl need to go bare when she can get just as many customers with rubber. To me, only the Ahjummas, north koreans, older Jgirls past prime in japan do BB here. It's so bad out here that I'd pay $500/ hhr for a true HYA. My dick has high standards LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes I was trying to be polite. Some guys care about service not looks, so they will be happy with the cheap thrill and don't mind older women with less looks. Older women almost always know their job.
As you say, they are pricing the college student cgirls accordingly. I said before cgirl HYA seem to have an extra premium but there are good value girls too. The pre-MILFs tend to have both looks and service. And sometimes, a cgirl HYA is cheaper just because she is missing one or two things someone might not care about. MH Malina had no tits and was newish, but those are lower priorities for me so I was happy to see her. Her face was very nice and she was a sweet young girl, skinny and tall. Currently No2 Apple 171cm (girls change all the time).
I have seen cgirls raise their price over time as they acquire skills and confidence. I don't mind paying more for a premium cgirl but many guys would not of course. The beauty of it is you could knock on her door and if you don't agree with my standards, just move on to the next girl. The cgirl HYA are expensive, it's not for everyone.
Door knocking and vibe checking at corgs is as powerful as using intel with korgs. Especially if you are a face first guy - corgs are not idea for "body first" guys. The way I approach it, I managed to be happy with both corgs and korgs, since it doubled my HYA options by adding a mix of jgirls and cgirls. There are many other races too of course.
I compared notes with others, and we noticed that cgirls who were premium or even super premium tended to be very fresh. It's all kinds of little details. About service, it is ymmv of course but some of us got unlimited shots. The super premium girls are sometimes listed as "book 2 hours ahead", so they aren't at the shop but show up if you book them. Meaning you sometimes might be the only guy that day. I'm not saying those details are worth paying extra, but we did often get that on top of an attractive girl with good attitude. So it is a whole package kind of thing. Premium jgirls follow the same pattern.
If it is not busy, some people will door knock every girl and decide. I kind of cheat and usually have some intel and just need to knock 2 doors most times. But after seeing my girl, I'll often knock on the rest or say hi to each girl "for next time". I tend to put them in a good mood, just be polite when doing this.
Oh I almost forgot, shower etiquette. Some rooms have their own shower while others share a shower. If it's a shared shower, the girl will knock since someone might be there already. Don't assume. Long ago, I was talking with an East Coast friend who only uses corgs and told them they should try shower banging a particular girl that showed up in their town. And they were like "Huh? Won't the next guy waiting to use the shower get pissed?" Good point.
No1 girls sometimes have the biggest rooms which sometimes means their own shower, but that's just generalization and there's no guarantee. I have often seen other girls temporarily take over the No1 room too, it's very flexible at some places. Same thing if you do a duo, the three of you might take over the No1 room (if possible). Imo, only do a duo if you know at least one girl if not both.