Types and Rates Directly Relationship Logical Fallacy
RJ,
Girls discriminate economically, just as airlines do with passengers' flying days. My type is not directly related to the amount that a woman charges other men. What one guy pays is not necessarily the same what another guy pays for the same experience with the SAME woman. What some guy pays the "so called" going rate at $ for 30 minutes, another guy is giving MUCH differently. Those here that have spoken to me know exactly some of the names that I am referring.
I strongly recommend that you reconsider your relationships between "types" and "so called" rates. Also, consider the differences in attitudes between street walkers and 10 K a night women. Yeah, there are some women charging 10 K a night. Yes, these women and I have had a hearty laugh at the stupidity of some males. Keep in mind that every heterosexual woman is giving it up for free to some guy in her life at some time. E. g. That petite redhead, who used to advertise on BP and got arrested in the Fall 2015, was charging $$ an hour to some. You should have seen her stinky, rotten teeth boyfriend up close. Some of your guys may have changed your minds when you saw who she was giving YOUR money to at the end of the day. Just saying.
[QUOTE=RJHunter;2746218]Most don't consider $100 for 30 minutes very high if the girl is worth the price. Everyone has a price they charge and a price they are willing to pay. Criticizing others because you think they pay too much sounds like you are looking for Rose or her type. In other towns, $200 to $300 for that same 30 minutes is pretty much the standard, again, if the girls are not just strung out street walkers.[/QUOTE]
Supply and Demand and your tolerance for negotiations
[QUOTE=RJHunter;2746818]If I want cheap, I go to McDonalds instead.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bluford;2746527]Some of your guys may have changed your minds when you saw who she was giving YOUR money to at the end of the day. Just saying.[/QUOTE]I was raised with the directive that "you should never worry about or count another man's money." I don't question any man's idea of what he wants to do with his money because it is his, gained by whatever means he felt necessary. I may not understand what that man does with his money but it's none of my business anyway. In urban parlance, it is summed up with the slang phrase "it ain't trickin if you got it. ".
Cheap isn't just an aspect of price, but the quality of what you get for said amount (all subjective). Like most of you have experienced, some of the most reasonable rates for an area have garnered the most mind-blowing experiences and the upper-echelon prices have been some of the most forgettable as a waste of time and money. I've had providers comment that even if they offered their services for free in Knoxville, there would be some mongers attempt to haggle for a lower rate (could limit the availability of traveling ladies to the area). If you have a tolerance for haggling, go for it, but haggling isn't for everybody. Aspects that you don't think are open for haggling (e. G. , rent, food at grocery stores, clothing), are fully open for negotiation if you give it a try. Seeing a provider may be more like negotiating with a car dealership or auto repair place, but I can understand the restaurant reference. I don't have the tolerance for haggling, so I often pay what the provider asks so we can both get on with our lives until next time. Consider a popular online auction site, do you a) choose to bid on the item for which you have to wait but could get it for substantially less or b) do you use the Buy-It-Now to get the item slighter higher than what you would expect but no waiting involved? Don't forget about the supply and demand component. True, we don't all pay the same for the same providers, but who's to say that the quality of what we experience and liberties with the same providers are consistent (still subjective, some providers allow bareback with some blokes and steer others toward CBJ and no GFE). Simply put, how may providers are available for a given area and how many mongers want them? Competition is fierce and anyone perusing ads can figure that out really quick.
Consider that the provider is offering you a commodity that you would like to rent, let's call it a honey pot. Every day the honey pot sits vacant costs the provider a significant amount of money, so by recognizing a rental without a long line of prospects lining up at the door, you immediately bargain from a position of power. Then consider the fact that by stating a price, the provider offers this price to anyone who meets the rental criteria which casts a wide net (like adult classified ads). If you have references or a pre-existing relationship with that provider indicating that you're a clean, conscientious, non-creepy, responsible renter, that may be worth a cost reduction to the provider because you are low-risk, no drama renter. That's why you often see a provider advertising one price for new friends but will have an undocumented, lower price for returning friends.
If negotiations break down, a bloke can simply move on to the next provider without making the provider who refused feel bad for trying to make a buck. With so many quality providers available, there's room for just about any approach or combination of approaches for procuring service. As long as you get what you want for what you are willing to pay for it, nothing else matters.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
I agree with everything except setting the rate
[QUOTE=Bezee2012;2746680]Yes there are people willing to pay $100-200 for 30 minutes and when they do throw that amount around they have essentially set the rate for everyone else. I wish I could be one of these guys to be able to do this but unfortunately I am not. Luckily I have a few very good providers that I can see real cheap because I am clean and treat them nice and not as a cum dumpster. I don't ask for anything special nor expect any special and also can be quick at times. What I believe Bluford was getting at is no reason to pay retail if you don't have to. When you go to buy a car do you pay sticker price or do you try to get the price down. If a provider thinks she is worth X amount and won't negotiate down that is her choice and what she thinks is a fair value for her service and I respect that and don't hold it against her. I have seen some higher end providers when I could afford it and tipped some of the regular women I have seen very well. Basically I set my price I am willing to pay and she sets hers that she is willing to settle for.
Play safe and often.
Bezee.[/QUOTE]I have been in this game for 15+ years so I know the "fair" market rate for a provider's time, and I rarely negotiate. If I am seeing a new provider, and she has some good reviews, etc. And is asking for something in the neighborhood of $200 for an hour, I have no problem paying that. If I like her, appreciate her service, and intend to see her again, I will also tip her on top of that (especially if she doesn't ask me for a tip). I know that I pay more than most guys do, but I do that so that I become a priority for them. When I decide I want to see them, I want them to make every effort to accommodate me, and yes that means they might be breaking previous arrangements to meet with me instead. I also never do 30 minutes. I always do an hour or more, just my personal preference. This also makes me a priority over anyone else wanting only 30 minutes. Having said that, I believe I am in the minority. I think most guys opt for 30 minutes and try to negotiate it down as cheaply as they can.
I do not think that my paying the $200 or so per hour + tip sets the market or sets the rate. I think most of these ladies are seeing guys for less than that (they are simply taking what they can get, right? I don't think that my behavior is having an adverse affect on anyone else (I. E. Raising the rates for everyone else), other than you might not get a response from a lady you are trying to see if she is otherwise occupied.
