"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I'm going to be moving to TX so I was there this past week, looking at housing options. I went on SA for less than 18 hours. I hit up a few POTS. In no time at all I had 3. One flaked on me. The other I met the very next day for breakfast meet-and-greet and the third we could not meet because of timing. The one I met is all set to cum here and visit and ready to be my main squeeze once I move there. She has her own place, job, car, etc. Single mom. African American with a 9 Body. 8. 5 face and 10 personality. This is amazing luck. I even disabled my SA account.

BigTigg.

[QUOTE=BigTigger;2531869]I'm going to be moving to TX so I was there this past week, looking at housing options. I went on SA for less than 18 hours. I hit up a few POTS. In no time at all I had 3. One flaked on me. The other I met the very next day for breakfast meet-and-greet and the third we could not meet because of timing. The one I met is all set to cum here and visit and ready to be my main squeeze once I move there. She has her own place, job, car, etc. Single mom. African American with a 9 Body. 8. 5 face and 10 personality. This is amazing luck. I even disabled my SA account.

BigTigg.[/QUOTE]BigTigg. Sorry to see you leave the DMV (if I recall. That's where you were a while ago) and GoodHunting!

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2531174]Nothing to do tonite so I went on SA. I found a 19 year old about a 8/7/8/? AA girl from a very very strict christian family. I am familiar with their domination and it is harsh.

I am convinced she is a first time NP. Looking for her first Daddy. We messaged for about 5 hours. I doubt her parents let her go out at night for very long. I am going to meet her Sunday early at a starbucks, She has her own car and lives about 10 minutes away. She's not a spinner but at 5'4" she's in my more desired height range.

I can drive short distances so she is perfect for now. She is very ready and qualified on all 3 questions. As an SB she could drive to me everytime. Some thing my regulars all seem to lack at the moment.[/QUOTE]That looks like a real winner!

Another good find HWG!

BT.

[QUOTE=BigTigger;2531869]I'm going to be moving to TX so I was there this past week, looking at housing options. I went on SA for less than 18 hours. I hit up a few POTS. In no time at all I had 3. One flaked on me. The other I met the very next day for breakfast meet-and-greet and the third we could not meet because of timing. The one I met is all set to cum here and visit and ready to be my main squeeze once I move there. She has her own place, job, car, etc. Single mom. African American with a 9 Body. 8. 5 face and 10 personality. This is amazing luck. I even disabled my SA account.

BigTigg.[/QUOTE]Can't wait to see a picture of this one.

About every few months I end up with about 10 or 20 POTS I never seem to get around to. So rather than making excuses I just delete them all and start over. Here is the first new batch from the last week.

A - 24, 5'9" mixed with model looks and body and close by and has a car. Definitely going to meet. Curvy spinner.

B - 18, 5'9" white latina very new to everything but ready to learn, no car. Will meet just to see if she is as kinky as I think she might be. Bigger girl with big tits.

C - 19, 5'4" AA close by and has a car, best attitude so far. For sure going to meet.

D - 18, 5'3" AA beautiful but far and no car and just turned 18, super strict parents. Might have to bite the bullet due to her looks and make the drive.

E - 18, 5'6" white latina arty girl, very far, very intelligent, no car.

All of them have some emotional needs so they all agreed to the $ a date. I deleted all the UTR's and Pro's that tried to talk to me. Really trying to stay away from that for now. Except for the 24 year old (who I didnt ask) they are all bona fide first timers.

A, B, & C are from SA. D & E are from SD4M.

Still just hangin with my regulars but I dont wanna get stale. I like all of them and wont ditch any of them for the time being.

Had a M&G recently with a girl who had been on the site for a few months now, but claims to have not been in an arrangement yet. She says she gets tired of being approached by creeps and jerks and fakes. So she expressed her gratitude to me in our opening messages that I was polite and respectful to her, while still laying out exactly what my expectations were. She thanked me again during our M&G for being nice and kind to her, it helped set her at ease and made her completely comfortable with going to the FC with me later this evening. This girl is very sweet, we have a lot in common, and her schedule works very well with mine. Something tells me she's going to be my #1 SB for a while, with the other recent SB I've seen a couple of times now being put on back-up, since our schedules don't work out the best.

It's amazing the stories I hear from some of these girls about some of the other guys that message them. I want to say thank you to those guys and shake their hands. You make my job so much easier. When I message a girl and I treat her with basic respect and decency, while still remaining firm about what my expectations are and what my donations will be (plus the fact that I deliver on what I promise), I stand out from the creeps, jerks, and fakes.

Sometimes a little kindness goes a long way with these girls who are just looking for a guy who will treat them right, probably even better than most guys have treated them before.

This forum has been a great source of information. I've had good luck with providers and SB's that I chat with because, like you say, 99% of what they get is just dog shit. And like you, I just want to send a [B]"thank you" card[/B] to all of those silly fuckers that can't put two respectful words together.

Peace! FH.

[QUOTE=FotoGuy1970;2532427]
It's amazing the stories I hear from some of these girls about some of the other guys that message them. I want to say thank you to those guys and shake their hands. You make my job so much easier. When I message a girl and I treat her with basic respect and decency, while still remaining firm about what my expectations are and what my donations will be (plus the fact that I deliver on what I promise), I stand out from the creeps, jerks, and fakes.

Sometimes a little kindness goes a long way with these girls who are just looking for a guy who will treat them right, probably even better than most guys have treated them before.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FotoGuy1970;2532427]Had a M&G recently with a girl who had been on the site for a few months now, but claims to have not been in an arrangement yet. She says she gets tired of being approached by creeps and jerks and fakes. So she expressed her gratitude to me in our opening messages that I was polite and respectful to her, while still laying out exactly what my expectations were. She thanked me again during our M&G for being nice and kind to her, it helped set her at ease and made her completely comfortable with going to the FC with me later this evening. This girl is very sweet, we have a lot in common, and her schedule works very well with mine. Something tells me she's going to be my #1 SB for a while, with the other recent SB I've seen a couple of times now being put on back-up, since our schedules don't work out the best.

It's amazing the stories I hear from some of these girls about some of the other guys that message them. I want to say thank you to those guys and shake their hands. You make my job so much easier. When I message a girl and I treat her with basic respect and decency, while still remaining firm about what my expectations are and what my donations will be (plus the fact that I deliver on what I promise), I stand out from the creeps, jerks, and fakes.

Sometimes a little kindness goes a long way with these girls who are just looking for a guy who will treat them right, probably even better than most guys have treated them before.[/QUOTE]Back in the bowl after a long hiatus. I had two M&G's on the 4th, and both women had equally amazing stories about SD's gone bad. One actually asked me if there was a web site for guys about SA because she gets a lot of emails that are similar. I, of course, pleaded ignorance.

Guys. If you're using HWG's five-step method. You should make major changes. Just saying.

[QUOTE=FotoGuy1970;2532427]Had a M&G recently with a girl who had been on the site for a few months now, but claims to have not been in an arrangement yet. She says she gets tired of being approached by creeps and jerks and fakes. So she expressed her gratitude to me in our opening messages that I was polite and respectful to her, while still laying out exactly what my expectations were. She thanked me again during our M&G for being nice and kind to her, it helped set her at ease and made her completely comfortable with going to the FC with me later this evening. This girl is very sweet, we have a lot in common, and her schedule works very well with mine. Something tells me she's going to be my #1 SB for a while, with the other recent SB I've seen a couple of times now being put on back-up, since our schedules don't work out the best.

It's amazing the stories I hear from some of these girls about some of the other guys that message them. I want to say thank you to those guys and shake their hands. You make my job so much easier. When I message a girl and I treat her with basic respect and decency, while still remaining firm about what my expectations are and what my donations will be (plus the fact that I deliver on what I promise), I stand out from the creeps, jerks, and fakes.

Sometimes a little kindness goes a long way with these girls who are just looking for a guy who will treat them right, probably even better than most guys have treated them before.[/QUOTE]I'm finding the same to be true where I am regarding being told about the creeps and rude guys they encounter. And I too am finding great success with just basic kindness and respect.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2530250]I need to start getting in the habit of posting my escapades, since I read everyone's experiences.

Just got back from Georgia where I spent the last week. Met with a 25 yo who ended up being a pro, but I made due with it for a night then cut her loose the next day. Nice enough and had a good time in the FC, but I prefer the non pros. I had backups, but couldn't get them to respond once I was down there. I don't know if they didn't like being second in line or what. I had to literally turn down about 5 of them, because I planned on spending about four days with the one I chose. I was busy anyway, so it wasn't a huge issue.

Meeting one of my regulars for the holiday. She's 21 yo and entering her senior year of college. A spinner who is easy to get along with, willing to please and fun to be with.

On Sunday meeting a 33 yo for a M & G. She's the oldest I've gone after. She seems eager, but we'll see.

Working on a POT 20 yo Asian college student locally who is new and green to this site. She is hesitant, but I'm working on her. We'll see how it goes.

I have a 20 yo POT to go see in another city who is a college student who seems eager for a SD. I've had trouble getting to her because of my time availability lately.

I have 21 yo POT locally that is eager to meet, but trying to fit her in this Sunday after my M & G with the 33 yo. I suspect she might be a UTR, but we'll see.

I still have my regular 22 yo Asian grad student that I have in my lineup.

So currently I have two regulars, but looking to replace my Asian grad student.

I've noticed the action has really picked up over the last 3 weeks in my area. I having a great time with this. I just wish I would have started this game sooner.[/QUOTE]Spending the fourth with my regular went well as usual. She's just easy to hang with and will do just about anything I ask I believe. She's in an undergrad program of Equestrian riding of all things. She's a spinner with strong damn thighs that know how to clamp on to your body. A little on the quiet side but likes the FC. On the meeting she brings a fifth of whiskey, which kind of surprised me. With her being kind of quiet and introverted no one would imagine this other side to her. I'm not complaining.

Met the 33 yr old today and found out she actually is an MLIF. Damn nice looking and slender. She accepted the $150 offer and want to meet this Wednesday for the FC. She has potential to replace my Asian grad student I was looking to replace. We hit it off extremely well.

Was supposed to meet the 21 yr old local and had time and place set up then before I got on the road I had a feeling I should confirm that we were meeting at the designated time. She went silent. Then she texts right at the time we were to meet and had the standard she encountered very bad news and wanted to meet later. I declined and made up something about being busy later. We have been trying to get together for the past few weeks, but could never connect. Not her fault in fact it has been my schedule more than anything, but we finally were able to agree on a time and everything was a go, then last minute she has an excuse. I don't have much patience these days for games, so I shut them off. There are too many SB's out there eager for my sugar, so I'm not going to do too much chasing. Anyway if this MILF works out I'll go sit back and work my lineup. I think. I always get tempted by the new ones.

So with the pending move from the DMV I started trying to shut it down, given my sugar stash will be limited. 3 SBs went quietly into the night after the news. 2 others wanted to to keep going until the move with no sugar, just cover expenses. The third was brand new, she wanted a bf / gf type of relationship anyway. So she was fine with keeping things going, meeting once a week, cover the expenses and a gift once a month until I leave.

I have one legit in TX, one POT and one I've sent out an email to that I'm hoping for a response. So we'll see how it goes. My legit will be flying here for a weekend of Tiggabounce. Normally I would not fly in for the first FC meeting, but this is just downpayment on when I get to TX. She has her own place and I expect my monthly expenses, with my own key to be less than $600 a month. This is so much cheaper than the DMV.

HWG. Not sure I'm posting pics on this one. I'll have to play with it to hide identifying features. We'll see.

BigTigg.

Had a m&g with POT#1 this afternoon. She's as cute in person as her pics. All went well and we will decide tomorrow what day this week the trip to the FC will be. Really refreshing to find a 22 why / o that is actually a mature thinker. This one is going to be fun without the drama.

Still working on POT#2. We have been texting a lot and she is very much into this whole thing but our schedules for a m&g have just not been lining up. You can tell that this one is a very sexually frustrated woman that needs a good, hard fucking.

POT#3 has gone totally silent on me. To be honest, I really didn't make a big effort with her over the weekend. A couple of quick texts that never got a reply. She must have found her SD. NEXT!

[QUOTE=BigTigger;2533455]So with the pending move from the DMV I started trying to shut it down, given my sugar stash will be limited. 3 SBs went quietly into the night after the news. 2 others wanted to to keep going until the move with no sugar, just cover expenses. The third was brand new, she wanted a bf / gf type of relationship anyway. So she was fine with keeping things going, meeting once a week, cover the expenses and a gift once a month until I leave.

I have one legit in TX, one POT and one I've sent out an email to that I'm hoping for a response. So we'll see how it goes. My legit will be flying here for a weekend of Tiggabounce. Normally I would not fly in for the first FC meeting, but this is just downpayment on when I get to TX. She has her own place and I expect my monthly expenses, with my own key to be less than $600 a month. This is so much cheaper than the DMV.

HWG. Not sure I'm posting pics on this one. I'll have to play with it to hide identifying features. We'll see.

BigTigg.[/QUOTE]Whenever I post pics I google them, etc first to make sure they don't show up in any searches. Some threads post tons of pics. I realize they are not SB pics. But its doable.

[QUOTE=ChinaIst;2524220]That is just a BAD idea. I like the young ones so I have this kind of scenario a lot. I won't do it. She can meet me one subway stop away from home or at an intersection 3 - 4 blocks away.

Let's list the problems:

1. You have not yet verified her age. Say she is just 17 and the parents call law enforcement when they see how old you are and that their daughter just got in your car?

2. Even if she is 18, say her parents call law enforcement? Are you sure they won't try and find you?

3. Violence. Maybe against you, maybe against her. Do you need this kind of risk?

4. And probably the most likely issue. That if the parents see her getting in a car with you they will give her the third degree and any potential arrangement will be nipped in the bud.

[blue]Man I gotta agree with the new guy here, picking up at mommy and daddies would be a HUGE no fucking way for me.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]FYI I did pass. The girl however was legit, as I was able to locate her FB page quite easily. And she was of age. Just having transportation issues. But there was no way I was going to Mom and dad's house. Too bad, as she was 18 year old With the kind of body you'd expect for that age.

Norm!

I've been texting this 21 yr AA coed spinner for the past week, that had agree to 600-800 per month allowance, and finally set up a MG at the FC today. Usually, these meetings end up with plenty of action. She's 5'5 slim, with a nice booty. I think HWG would approve. LOL.

So, I went there, got the room and waited for her to show up. She was about 15-20 late. She texted me when she finally show up and I cam out to her car to greet her and we walk back to the room together. I had a huge grin on my face when I saw her. She had on a tight, low cut black dress and from what I can tell no bras nor panties. I was thinking, damn I am going to be working extra hard today. She was actually prettier than the pics she sent me.

We spent about half an hour in the FC room talking, and having some good laughs. So, the dumb me asked her: "So, are you ready to have some fun? And I think that sort of caught her by surprise, and she pause for a while and slowly says something along the line of "I think we should wait until the next meeting".

Now, this is partly my fault because I did leave her the option of just meeting and talk and getting to know each other, however what I failed to clearly state (which I almost always do) is that sugar won't come until we have intimacy. So, we chatted for a few more minutes and she asked if she will be getting her allowance of 100 today and I had to explain to her that she won't be getting her allowance until we fuck (in a nice way). And this part of the conversation was not pleasant at all and I could see the dissatisfaction in her. I ended up giving her 40 for gas, and parted ways.

Now, 99% of my MG at the FC ends up with POF and after some chit chat and when I am ready for action, I just tell them to stand up, show me what they got (and that's usually the cue for them to get undress). And then the fun would start. But this time, the stupid me had to ask the question if she's ready to play.

A few hours later I text her to say that it was a pleasure to meet her, and I apologize I didn't make it clear and that I own her an apology. She replied back that yea, I owes her an apology and that it was also nice to meet me. So, I guess that's a positive.

So, did I have a brain fart moment? A girl shows up at the FC in a dress with no bras and panties is definitely begging to be fuck right?

Trying to set up that next meeting, so we'll see. BTW, she had not been back on the site for about 5 days now, so at least she's not actively looking or too busy talking to other SDs.