Hello, NYorker. I saw Ichika MK come down to DMV area.
Wondering is she the same person as Ichika RS?
Thank you!!
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Hello, NYorker. I saw Ichika MK come down to DMV area.
Wondering is she the same person as Ichika RS?
Thank you!!
Unfortunately all TITS are photo-shopped it seems.
[B]Reiko MK[/B] [URL]https://misskyoto.com/club/[/URL] - this one has real looking tits.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7424188][B]Yoshiko SE[/B] [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/25598[/URL] - young tits.
[B]Michi SE[/B] [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/25599[/URL] - tits.
Both look new to me for Manhattan.
Glad to see some $240/$360 hour girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AlmostVirgin;7424213]Ann SE. JGirl. 360 H.
[URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/25600[/URL]
Edit: 360 was just a placeholder Michi and Ann bumped up to 380[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VidLover69;7424193]Michi's tits are either heavily P.S. Or they got her cup size wrong. 34 C japanese tits are small Bs in the US. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kirschta;7424260]Hello, NYorker. I saw Ichika MK come down to DMV area.
Wondering is she the same person as Ichika RS?
Thank you!![/QUOTE]We had two Ichikas in NY. They are two different people. Ichika RS8 is still here.
Gentlemen of NY-.
I am down in the DC area and want to branch out a little. NY seems to be overflowing with HYA girls. I am pretty much exclusive BBFS CIP. In DC its pretty much spells out the rate plus the extra for the CIP. NY not so much. What is the general upcharge for BBFS CIP, and how do I know which offer it? My plan is to come to NY for a couple of days and see around 4 girls and fill each up.
[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;7424555]Gentlemen of NY-.
I am down in the DC area and want to branch out a little. NY seems to be overflowing with HYA girls. I am pretty much exclusive BBFS CIP. In DC its pretty much spells out the rate plus the extra for the CIP. NY not so much. What is the general upcharge for BBFS CIP, and how do I know which offer it? My plan is to come to NY for a couple of days and see around 4 girls and fill each up.[/QUOTE]It is usually 100 outside 200 inside for j girls. It is pretty easy to get them to 140-150.
C d k girls should be 100 inside.
Thought I'd drop a quick note on Yoshiko as I was first out of the gate, or first into the gate, depending on the metaphor one likes. Yoshiko is the pervert special-of-the-month. Just turned 21. Almost no boobs, baby fat, nice ass, great thighs, pale skin, cute round face and, just to complete the look, long pigtails. Naked, she looks, oh, *very* young, as in *extremely* young though thankfully she kept a vee of pubic hair so she doesn't look prepubescent. Still, fuck. Tried for #NLC, but wasn't going to happen. Asking 150/200 with a cutesy phone menu. Extremely snug. Lots and lots of "iku"s. Great attitude, no blocking, was able to go pretty hard while she gave the appearance of enjoying it. Unmissable for a certain class of pervert.
[QUOTE=CherCheri;7424681]Thought I'd drop a quick note on Yoshiko as I was first out of the gate, or first into the gate, depending on the metaphor one likes. Yoshiko is the pervert special-of-the-month. Just turned 21. Almost no boobs, baby fat, nice ass, great thighs, pale skin, cute round face and, just to complete the look, long pigtails. Naked, she looks, oh, *very* young, as in *extremely* young though thankfully she kept a vee of pubic hair so she doesn't look prepubescent. Still, fuck. Tried for #NLC, but wasn't going to happen. Asking 150/200 with a cutesy phone menu. Extremely snug. Lots and lots of "iku"s. Great attitude, no blocking, was able to go pretty hard while she gave the appearance of enjoying it. Unmissable for a certain class of pervert.[/QUOTE]Tell her to come to DC, or maybe another trip to NYC sounds fun. I'm in the mood for some pettan recently.
PB, your inbox is full.
Today, I have quite a bit of free time again and was thinking about whether to see Youko again or try Barbara. Personally I prefer Barbara as I have tried too many asian girls in the past 2 years but Barbara's photos seem too good to be true. The booker was great; she sensed my hesitation and sent me two photos of Barbara—the same ones from the website but with her face unblurred—assuring me these were Barbara's real photos. She also told me Barbara's last day is the 25th. I have to admit, Barbara's photos are incredibly tempting, so I decided to go meet her.
I was super pleased when the door opened and this wonderful, charming lady greeted me inside. She is the girl in the pics, she has a perfect body, really tall, like 5 '10 bare foot. Very athletic body with long legs and a nice firm ass. Tits are like C cups imo. Great hug and directly into sensual dfk. She is a great kisser with just the right amount of pressure, not too soft and not too heavy. This continued for a few minutes off and on until I finally went to the shower. Upon exit was greeted warmly with more dfk and to the bedroom. Her body is very soft and nice to kiss in all areas. Daty was very nice, her pussy was clean shaved and smooth. Reciprocation of service was wonderful as well with amazing BBBJ and bls. Being inside of her for a variety of positions was also a nice feeling. Barbara makes you feel very comfortable throughout the whole time no matter what you are doing. Mish was the best as I could pound her hard and suck her tits, also her face is pretty and hot. Finished off with Doggy and then some nice chit chat. To go along with her exceptional service is a woman who is very engaging in conversation and quite intelligent. She can keep a conversation light or deep depending on who she is talking to. Overall an excellent time and I would definitely see her again.
Anyone know where Chanel DDY ended up? Or any other details about their shut down?
Kaede SE. JGirl. 340 H.
Last 2 pics seem familiar. Maybe not new.
[URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/25628[/URL]
[QUOTE=CherCheri;7424681]Thought I'd drop a quick note on Yoshiko as I was first out of the gate, or first into the gate, depending on the metaphor one likes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the share!
I just landed in NYC tonight, and after eating Korean BBQ with friends, my urge to hook up skyrocketed. I decided to try a J girl as I know NYC has the best J girl talents.
Initially, I wanted to meet the JAV girl, but I booked too late, and there were no suitable time slots available. I prefer taller girls, so I decided to give Aiko a try. Aiko is over 170 cm tall, has a cute, girl-next-door face, with a balanced, athletic build kind of like a volleyball player, but without the heavy gym vibes. She's not too slim or heavy, just perfectly proportioned, with a natural, effortless charm.
She asked for the donation upfront and then helped me undress. Aiko seemed a bit shy at first, but during the shower, I tried some clumsy Japanese to make conversation, which got her laughing. That seemed to help her completely relax, and her warm personality started to shine through. Back in the room, I let Aiko do her routine. She had me lay on the bed and lay next to me. She began kissing me, mostly lfk then licked my nipples and started stroking my jr. Her touch was gentle and soft.
Then she moved down for a BBBJ, and her technique was good. She even tried deep throating, which was a pleasant surprise. I asked for 69, and she happily obliged. Her meaty kitty was already wet, and some DATY got her even more soaked, which was hot. We put on a cover and started in missionary. She was tighter than I expected, the feeling was good. And her smiles as I looked at her were so genuine. As I picked up the pace, she closed her eyes, moaning softly with an expression of pure pleasure. We switched to reverse cowgirl, and her perfect ass was just mesmerizing—beautifully shaped and sized, with just the right jiggle. Finally, we moved to doggy, and that view was too much for me. I finished in the bag within a few minutes.
Aiko cleaned me up, and I headed out feeling completely satisfied. Not a service queen level provider but very submissive attitude and left happy.
BTW, I'll be in NYC for 12 days; any must-see girl recommendations?
Reiko MK was from Jersey MLE, she's confirmed to be a nice horny girl with a good #NBC on her and standard pricing. Forgot about video.
Michi SE looks good on the pic and I'm told she had an extensive menu but bring a nice condom and you should be able to bang her little body out. She looks like she has the best body for the new crop of girls from SE.
Momona MK appears to be the gem of the month for slim cute tight pussy. No repeat yet though.
Ichika MK is gone, you still have Ichika R8 to fuck. Still one of the pretty girls.
Scarlett. Can't see face clearly and I did not try to get my dick in. I was told her body is amazing though. Need more intel, she may be on the older side but can't be certain.
Haru R8 - best small natural body young girl IMO.
I would probably the top 2 are.
Ichika R8.
Momona MK.
If I haven't seen any of these girls.
Has anyone seen Uxia yet? Wanted to try something other than Asian.
Heard about a few of the gals from there and had my eyes on a Latina Luna from pics. Coco was the one who opened up and I was definitely having a change of mind from Spanish to Asian after meeting Coco. I already read she offers Greek and BS. Looks were above my expectations with the way she was all happy and showcasing her perfect tots in a silky black one piece nightgown, I knew she'd be the one I need last night. Boy was I right.
She walks me in and gives me a serious BBJ preview while I massage her tits and pull her nipples. We DFK and let me sick her tits before tipping her for Greek and BS. $100 all in tip. Told me I can bang her in the shower. She gives a thorough wash down while she sat on the table. After cleaning she flips me to face up and reactivates my cock with head teasing then slowly takes all of it in her throat while massaging my taint then onto CG while finger bang her asshole. She switch to 69 so I can have better access until I was ready and she rides the load out of me in a few minutes. She squats while she washes off as I wash myself. Her tits look very good. Was complimenting her on them and on her body. We head inside and she eagerly gave a massage and on my entire back down to my toes then licks up my legs to my asshole.
Gives a A1 rim. Goes long no messing around. Had me feeling great. I asked her to massage the nuts and turned over and let her DT and BLS while making breast eye vi tact and fuck noises. She then asks me if I want her asshole this time. Yes madam I say. She mounts on her back with her legs speed and fingering lube into her own ass. Told me to come in slow. Her hole was warm as fuck. Tight just enough. We go slow while she holds her tits together. Her areolae are very pink and nipples as well. She likes her nipples softly teased and sucked on. She lets out nice moans when you sick her tits the right way. Eventually I was balls deep in cocos ass slapping meat hard. She then tells me to try her In doggy. She stands up and lifts a leg up on the table to let me have deep access and it was all I needed at that point. Tested her limits fast deep and hard until I she yes a deeeep feeling load while she screams loud. I was out of breath. She got me a hot towel and mouthwash and wipes me down before a standup shower together. She dressed me up down to my socks all with a nice attitude asking me if I like her and telling me Luna next time will be great on my way out. Coco is incredible. Built nice with big tits. Deep throats and durable. Will repeat with her for looks, service and attitude.
Pics glowed up a little but very cute with slender body and Bs and I think lower 20's. 360 girl that I would say would be 360 anywhere. She was around before so people may recognize her. 100/200. Friendly right off the bat and good sex / kissing / tight pussy.
[URL]https://lifeherenyc.com/index.php/about-our-model/?smid=1584[/URL]
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7425352]Reiko MK was from Jersey MLE, she's confirmed to be a nice horny girl with a good #NBC on her and standard pricing. Forgot about video.
Michi SE looks good on the pic and I'm told she had an extensive menu but bring a nice condom and you should be able to bang her little body out. She looks like she has the best body for the new crop of girls from SE.
Momona MK appears to be the gem of the month for slim cute tight pussy. No repeat yet though.
Ichika MK is gone, you still have Ichika R8 to fuck. Still one of the pretty girls.
Scarlett. Can't see face clearly and I did not try to get my dick in. I was told her body is amazing though. Need more intel, she may be on the older side but can't be certain.
Haru R8 - best small natural body young girl IMO.
I would probably the top 2 are.
Ichika R8.
Momona MK.
If I haven't seen any of these girls.[/QUOTE]Scarlett is a good bang. Doesn't DFK much, I got just a little bit. Body is a 10 tho.
Who is in room5 at PPC, RS8, and NYSE? I'm going to go bang those rooms today.
[b]Suzukaze Ui[/b] She's back and this time in PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/suzukazeui
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;7426227]Who is in room5 at PPC, RS8, and NYSE? I'm going to go bang those rooms today.[/QUOTE]PPC is Jurin.
SE. Not Michi, not Ann, not Yokiko. Might be Kaori. Emma.
R8 no idea. Ichika was #2. And that's the only one you'd fuck.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7426237]
PPC is Jurin.
SE. Not Michi, not Ann, not Yokiko. Might be Kaori. Emma.
R8 no idea. Ichika was #2. And that's the only one you'd fuck.[/QUOTE]I'm done with Ichika. What about your girlfriend Haru? Maybe I'll add her in as a value bang bang today.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;7426313]I'm done with Ichika. What about your girlfriend Haru? Maybe I'll add her in as a value bang bang today.[/QUOTE]I think Salacia was in 5 before she left.
Toma 6.
Haru 7 - think it's her last day or next to last day. 7 is super small though, really just the bed.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;7426313]I'm done with Ichika. What about your girlfriend Haru? Maybe I'll add her in as a value bang bang today.[/QUOTE]My girlfriend is in DC though.
I hear you also, sometimes you are just done with someone even if she is good looking.
[QUOTE=Intenseez;7426397]I think Salacia was in 5 before she left.
Toma 6.
Haru 7 - think it's her last day or next to last day. 7 is super small though, really just the bed.[/QUOTE]RS8 room5 will forever be the water works room. With Salacia gone, did that white Spanish girl Uxia move in? She's off the RS8 site now.
I hate RS8 room7. Let's see if Haru shows up at MK or PPC next. I'll give her a hello then goodbye bang some place else.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7426407]My girlfriend is in DC though.
I hear you also, sometimes you are just done with someone even if she is good looking.[/QUOTE]Is this your DC girl? She has that certain je ne sais quoi to her.
[URL]https://gsgdww123.com/view/22734[/URL]
Yes, if you know that relationship won't progress to free BBFSCIP, then it's better to move onto the next one. There's too much fish in the sea.
Emma is in NYSE room4. Room5 is where Vietnamese Sara is. I heard that Emma was a small girl with big tits but I wasn't prepared for how smol she is. The photos are glammed up. She is more GND looking. But the tits are real. They have a soft light density to them. She knows that they bring the boys to the yard and gave me a shit eating grin when she put them between my cock and started tit fucking me with them.
Her pussy is very smol. How smol? My dick is sore from banging her. Like legit sore, so it is preventing me from banging another chick today level of soreness.
Overall good session. She has studied in the states so her English is pretty good. She does have a taste for the expensive things in life so it was easy to chat her up (check her jacket). She checks off the almost chubby girl bang for the month. I'll be back in November for another go at those titties.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;7426496]Emma is in NYSE room4. Room5 is where Vietnamese Sara is. I heard that Emma was a small girl with big tits but I wasn't prepared for how smol she is. The photos are glammed up. She is more GND looking. But the tits are real. They have a soft light density to them. She knows that they bring the boys to the yard and gave me a shit eating grin when she put them between my cock and started tit fucking me with them.
Her pussy is very smol. How smol? My dick is sore from banging her. Like legit sore, so it is preventing me from banging another chick today level of soreness.
Overall good session. She has studied in the states so her English is pretty good. She does have a taste for the expensive things in life so it was easy to chat her up (check her jacket). She checks off the almost chubby girl bang for the month. I'll be back in November for another go at those titties.[/QUOTE]Want to agree, she's more GND than glam, but I found her quite cute.
I think she might have the greatest natural breasts I've ever had to pleasure of spending time with. And my sample size on that is 100+.
I liked her a lot, but she couldn't handle my size well either oral or inside. As a result I'd be unlikely to repeat unless she came to Seattle.
Emma at nyse is a popular girl. I guess mongers like a shortie (maybe 4'10?) with big natural D cups (maybe DDs) and a sweet and friendly personality. Pics generally accurate for body but face is P.S. Heavily. There is softness to her body including her waist. Her face is a cute GND type and quite round. If koharu at wsd is your type, then you'll like Emma.
Service is above avg relative to the typical passive jgirl style. BBBJ is amateur but she's a semi-pro when it comes to letting a guy suck on her tits while bouncing her meaty ass on jr in CG.
[URL]https://www.nycsmilingeyes.com/index[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;7426496]Emma is in NYSE room4. Room5 is where Vietnamese Sara is. I heard that Emma was a small girl with big tits but I wasn't prepared for how smol she is. The photos are glammed up. She is more GND looking. But the tits are real. They have a soft light density to them. She knows that they bring the boys to the yard and gave me a shit eating grin when she put them between my cock and started tit fucking me with them.
Her pussy is very smol. How smol? My dick is sore from banging her. Like legit sore, so it is preventing me from banging another chick today level of soreness.
Overall good session. She has studied in the states so her English is pretty good. She does have a taste for the expensive things in life so it was easy to chat her up (check her jacket). She checks off the almost chubby girl bang for the month. I'll be back in November for another go at those titties.[/QUOTE]
[B]Nana R8[/B] [URL]https://risingsun8.com/view/25660[/URL].
[b]Anna hot latina moving to PPC[/b] again soon https://www.pleasure-palace.club/annam 10/27. -- and all Vietnamese here are "upcoming"
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7426935][B]Nana R8[/B] [URL]https://risingsun8.com/view/25660[/URL].
[b]Anna hot latina moving to PPC[/b] again soon https://www.pleasure-palace.club/annam 10/27. -- and all Vietnamese here are "upcoming"[/QUOTE]Looks like Nana was at Shisanyi1818 - [URL]https://shisanyi1818.com/view/25493...[/URL] marketed as Russian / Japanese mix LOL. Hopefully someone TOFTT.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7426935]and all Vietnamese here are "upcoming"[/QUOTE]VGirl's weekend out in the city! Turning heads everywhere people wondering where TF this gang of VGirls came from LOL.
Mikoto PPC. JGirl. Price not yet set. "Anal" also advertised.
[URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/mikoto[/URL]
She was at PrettyYuki for a few months when they were still open. And then at NYAS prior to that.
[QUOTE=AlmostVirgin;7427033]Mikoto PPC. JGirl. Price not yet set. "Anal" also advertised.
[URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/mikoto[/URL]
She was at PrettyYuki for a few months when they were still open. And then at NYAS prior to that.[/QUOTE]Was trying to search to find this but what does the B and A mean on her profile?
Schedule: Starts October 26th.
240 30 320 45 380 60 580 908203;8203;.
Provides extra experience according to the tips B A.
[QUOTE=Czip11;7427336]Was trying to search to find this but what does the B and A mean on her profile?
Schedule: Starts October 26th.
240 30 320 45 380 60 580 908203;8203;.
Provides extra experience according to the tips B A.[/QUOTE]B is for BBFS.
A is for ANAL.
I haven't logged on in a while but been keeping up with a few pages and visiting my few favorite places when the feeling strikes which far and few in between but though Monica was worth a few minutes. She's a spinner all natural Gf style slutty Mongolian. Yes Mongolian which is rare in this town. She is a spinner in the true sense. Has a bubbly little bit but otherwise fit as shit. Told me she was some sort of dancer in her past. This makes sense of her tight thighs and mid section. She's circa 30's with natural tits. I spoke a few Chinese words and that broke the ice. She went from reserved to making little attempts to be funny. Her body is smoking hot, so her jokes were great LOL. DFK with a lot of tongue and not reserved. Sat be fine and went on her knees and put a nice effort with BBJ, waxing my balls and tonguing my nuts then off to a great NURU session with rimming, BLS, 69, CG. She spoke a few words in English and was asking me if I want a lotion massage. I skipped and had her sit in my face and I was hard again super quickly. She took my cock as deep as can until I put her on the table. Lifted her up and she's a lightweight and can't be over 105/110. Laid her down and ran my tongue on every inch of her body. She was shrieking, laughing, moaning, saying she likes it in Chinese. I end up downtown fur a few minutes, then rammed her missionary. She was smiling and moaning in pleasure and took the initiative to suck my nipples and lick my neck which was making me ram deep thrusts. She loves her nipples played with. Nice sounds and reactions. After I reached my limit I walked over to her and she laid on her side as I stand above and FF until I released in her mouth as I was playing with her pussy and asshole. She's a must try fit service and her fit spinner body. She told me she offered Greek but after the deed. Good option for those who want to try something exotic and different.
[B]Sori PPC[/B]
[URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/sori[/URL] - I am guessing she will go raw at some point. Most Viet girls do end up getting the pill and start going raw dog.
Had a recent dream with Yoshiko. Especially after seeing a recent review.
Screening was a cinch, since I'm already cleared from most NoVA agencies and was able to get an appointment quickly.
Was initially worried I'd bungle transport (subway) but that was easy. Got let in, waited a spell and drank some water.
She was as described by the other reviewer. Petite, not slim, but very soft milky skin. Limited English but no biggie. Greeted me with a hug and lfk.
Exchanged then had a quick shower. That shower is tiny lmao. Anyway, no preview and back to the room. Bed is super firm. Started with a brief routine, but I movd festivities along.
She is very tight, so take your time. But she doesn't limit or push back, and quite enthusiastic with more LFK (no tongue out tho LOL). ACG was terrific. Could feel everything with her on top.
Flipped to mish to better control pace, and then kicked things off in doggie. Great view from the back and alot to grab onto. Blew deep inside and spent some moments catching our breath. Sugoi when she saw how much it was.
Debating on repeating or sampling other talent before I leave. But great first impression so far so 👍.
Price adjusted.
Mikoto is $260/400 now [URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/mikoto[/URL].
$260 is the new $240 I guess.
[b]Yukiko MK[/b] https://misskyoto.com/ - return, good shaved pussy usual asking for everything. #NBC
Akane MK is also usual asking price. small #RTB
both MK girls are on the skinny side and very tight.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7427650][B]Sori PPC[/B]
[URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/sori[/URL] - I am guessing she will go raw at some point. Most Viet girls do end up getting the pill and start going raw dog.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Seattleanddc;7425262]I just landed in NYC tonight, and after eating Korean BBQ with friends, my urge to hook up skyrocketed. I decided to try a J girl as I know NYC has the best J girl talents.
Initially, I wanted to meet the JAV girl, but I booked too late, and there were no suitable time slots available. I prefer taller girls, so I decided to give Aiko a try. Aiko is over 170 cm tall, has a cute, girl-next-door face, with a balanced, athletic build kind of like a volleyball player, but without the heavy gym vibes. She's not too slim or heavy, just perfectly proportioned, with a natural, effortless charm.
She asked for the donation upfront and then helped me undress. Aiko seemed a bit shy at first, but during the shower, I tried some clumsy Japanese to make conversation, which got her laughing. That seemed to help her completely relax, and her warm personality started to shine through. Back in the room, I let Aiko do her routine. She had me lay on the bed and lay next to me. She began kissing me, mostly lfk then licked my nipples and started stroking my jr. Her touch was gentle and soft.
Then she moved down for a BBBJ, and her technique was good. She even tried deep throating, which was a pleasant surprise. I asked for 69, and she happily obliged. Her meaty kitty was already wet, and some DATY got her even more soaked, which was hot. We put on a cover and started in missionary. She was tighter than I expected, the feeling was good. And her smiles as I looked at her were so genuine. As I picked up the pace, she closed her eyes, moaning softly with an expression of pure pleasure. We switched to reverse cowgirl, and her perfect ass was just mesmerizingbeautifully shaped and sized, with just the right jiggle. Finally, we moved to doggy, and that view was too much for me. I finished in the bag within a few minutes.
Aiko cleaned me up, and I headed out feeling completely satisfied. Not a service queen level provider but very submissive attitude and left happy.
BTW, I'll be in NYC for 12 days; any must-see girl recommendations?[/QUOTE]I saw her on the 22nd and it was good but she was pulling away a bit during doggie. Anyway, she's gone now from their site. Odd.
Kaiya. JGirl. 340 H.
[URL]https://risingsun8.com/view/25761[/URL]
Naoki. JGirl. 340 H.
[URL]https://risingsun8.com/view/25755[/URL]
[B]Rina SE[/B] [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/25756[/URL] $240/360.
[B]MK[/B] has one incoming not posted yet. "NEW 10/28".
[QUOTE=AlmostVirgin;7428482]Kaiya. JGirl. 340 H.
[URL]https://risingsun8.com/view/25761[/URL]
Naoki. JGirl. 340 H.
[URL]https://risingsun8.com/view/25755[/URL][/QUOTE]