"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Had a few interesting things of note happen with me in the past couple weeks:

I was in another city for a bit of business for a day. I thought I would use SD4 M to hit up some of the local girls while I was there, see if they wanted to M&G and go from there. One of them responded quickly, but she was already an hour away doing something else. Her texts came very slowly. After over two hours, she still hadn't given me a time we could meet at or even a name I could call her (fake or otherwise). I think she was a pro or a UTR who was on the road and seeing a couple of other customers while trying to schedule something with me. I finally gave up on her while I met my other respondent.

The only other respondent who hit me up in time before I had to leave was very nice, friendly, flirty. I met her for a M&G and I thought we hit it off great. She definitely seemed interested. We decided to take things back to my room. We both drove separately. Before I was even back at my room, she had sent me a text claiming she had some family emergency. Maybe true, but the timing of that seemed highly suspect. I guess maybe I wasn't her type and she didn't have the guts to tell me to my face. I really wish these girls would learn to just tell us to our face that they're not interested, instead of leaving us hanging or cutting us off just as we think a FC date will start. And it's not that she got cold feet I think, she has had other SDs in the past (or at least that's what she claimed). So who knows.

After I returned home, I had a single mom respond to my SA message. Met up for a M&G that seemed to go okay. She told me she was interested in having an arrangement with me. But since the M&G she's gone radio silent. She had never done this sort of thing before, so I think she decided she couldn't pull the trigger, or I had another case of meeting a girl who decided I really wasn't her type but couldn't tell me to my face.

One of the local girls who has been on the site for quite some time and has always expressed wanting a high allowance contacted me again. I'm not sure if she remembers me from a couple of the previous discussions we've had. But I'm guessing she's realized that the mega-millionaires are very rare in our area, so she's starting to think a little more reasonably. We're still discussing things in messages, but just the fact that she's still listening to me when I gave her a lower donation than what she's normally stated is a huge step in the right direction.

Another local girl contacted me, but she's all over the place. She's one of the tbops whom I love, but she's one of the tbops who lacks the maturity that some of the other girls her age I've seen. We're supposed to meet up today for a very brief M&G and then straight to the FC, but I'm really wondering if this girl is all talk. So far, that's all I've seen from her.

Hi, what are you guys finding works best when meeting a new sb. Just meeting at the FC and seeing how it goes or doing a m&g moving on to the FC? I'm thinking about trying this out but the thought of meeting a 21 why / o who is a different race at a public restaurant / coffee shop isn't something I can get my head around.

[QUOTE=Zman429;2529149]Hi, what are you guys finding works best when meeting a new sb. Just meeting at the FC and seeing how it goes or doing a m&g moving on to the FC? I'm thinking about trying this out but the thought of meeting a 21 why / o who is a different race at a public restaurant / coffee shop isn't something I can get my head around.[/QUOTE]Depends on what you are looking for. If you can not date out and about due to marriage constraints or social stigmas just go straight to the FC. Her agreement to do that places her in the UTR or almost UTR category, so you will not attract the Sweet college girl who would be aghast at meeting a stranger like that.

OTOH if you want a true SB to wine and dine and have a real relationship outside the FC go for a coffee / dinner meet.

I like the second type but I need to do the first. I want a pre-UTR. Usually they see how easy it is to make loads of $$ screwing a senior citizen and start adding clients.

Fred is spot on, a utr or pro will go or meet at the fc, I've only done that once, and frankly never saw her again. Not because we didn't get along or she wasn't hot because she was, I simply don't want that! All of my others I have done the m&g's. A couple of time have felt out of place because of race or age so now I use the local restaurant / bar finding apps to find a quiet pub close to the baby. Make it easy and safe for her, quiet for me (so we don't need to yell), and not uncomfortable or awkward. Hell, several places would look at me as a regular now!

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2529199]Depends on what you are looking for. If you can not date out and about due to marriage constraints or social stigmas just go straight to the FC. Her agreement to do that places her in the UTR or almost UTR category, so you will not attract the Sweet college girl who would be aghast at meeting a stranger like that.

OTOH if you want a true SB to wine and dine and have a real relationship outside the FC go for a coffee / dinner meet.

I like the second type but I need to do the first. I want a pre-UTR. Usually they see how easy it is to make loads of $$ screwing a senior citizen and start adding clients.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zman429;2529149]Hi, what are you guys finding works best when meeting a new sb. Just meeting at the FC and seeing how it goes or doing a m&g moving on to the FC? I'm thinking about trying this out but the thought of meeting a 21 why / o who is a different race at a public restaurant / coffee shop isn't something I can get my head around.[/QUOTE]Meet them at the coffee shop. Try to get there first and when you see them coming just invite them into your car, where you can have a "private discussion". Works every time. From there you can go to the FC or not.

I'm thinking about trying SD4 Me next. I remember some reports on here awhile back ago that the site was still charging members after they cancelled. Is anyone still having problems with this?

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2529273]Meet them at the coffee shop. Try to get there first and when you see them coming just invite them into your car, where you can have a "private discussion". Works every time. From there you can go to the FC or not.[/QUOTE]I live in Vegas and there are definitely girls that have jobs but realize at the end of the month they need additional funds. So they seem to be a bit more open to things. But we'll see.

[QUOTE=DogSun;2529276]I'm thinking about trying SD4 Me next. I remember some reports on here awhile back ago that the site was still charging members after they cancelled. Is anyone still having problems with this?[/QUOTE]Yep. The last time I signed with them, I used a card I rarely use. And that card was compromised and all sorts of fraudulent purchases were being made with it shortly after I subscribed. I strongly, STRONGLY suggest you use a disposable Visa card or some such.

So, as I dip further into the sugar bowl it becomes obvious to me that it is just about as easy and the same cost for us to get hot babes in their late teens and early 20's as it is to get MILFs or older women in their 30's or 40's.

So, if we don't need to settle for what we can get because we can get what we want, does anyone anyone actually prefer MILFs or older women to girls under 25?

OK, got a little unsettling news on POT#3 this afternoon. Chatting it up with a few local mongers, it turns out she has been doing this for a while. That's not the problem in itself, but it's looking like she has a bit of GPS in her. One guy told me she wanted $350. He offered her $200, which she initially turned down. He says she then texted him back 3 hours later saying she would meet him for the $200. He told her too late, so I don't know if she is even worth the $200. Now I am considering going silent on her. We did not discuss sugar yet, figuring we would do that tomorrow. However, now I am sure that my offer of $150 will never fly, and maybe even $200 would be turned down. I don't think I want to waste my time.

[QUOTE=ChinaIst;2529829]So, as I dip further into the sugar bowl it becomes obvious to me that it is just about as easy and the same cost for us to get hot babes in their late teens and early 20's as it is to get MILFs or older women in their 30's or 40's.

So, if we don't need to settle for what we can get because we can get what we want, does anyone anyone actually prefer MILFs or older women to girls under 25?[/QUOTE]General rule of thumb is they're less likely to be flakes or have GPS, and know more of what they want in bed. So, pros and cons either way.

[QUOTE=DogSun;2529276]I'm thinking about trying SD4 Me next. I remember some reports on here awhile back ago that the site was still charging members after they cancelled. Is anyone still having problems with this?[/QUOTE]Use a pre-paid card with only enough for as long as you want the subscription.

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[QUOTE=ChinaIst;2529829]So, as I dip further into the sugar bowl it becomes obvious to me that it is just about as easy and the same cost for us to get hot babes in their late teens and early 20's as it is to get MILFs or older women in their 30's or 40's.

So, if we don't need to settle for what we can get because we can get what we want, does anyone anyone actually prefer MILFs or older women to girls under 25?[/QUOTE]I don't prefer MILF's, but I wouldn't mind banging a true 9 or 10 quality not over 40 southern Cali, beverly hills quality MILF. Not likely to happen off a sugar site though.

[QUOTE=ChinaIst;2529829]So, as I dip further into the sugar bowl it becomes obvious to me that it is just about as easy and the same cost for us to get hot babes in their late teens and early 20's as it is to get MILFs or older women in their 30's or 40's.

So, if we don't need to settle for what we can get because we can get what we want, does anyone anyone actually prefer MILFs or older women to girls under 25?[/QUOTE]Sometimes I see a hot MILF that I definitely wouldn't mind meeting, but I have found them much more likely to demand more sugar than I need to spend for a hot young girl, so you're right, why would I? The exception to that has been the MILF's who are total train wrecks and desperate for a lifeline right now, and they are more trouble than they are worth.