Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=BigGusDickUs55;3681405]If a requirement of the benefit is that the benefit not used to commit activities that are unlawful or other wise illegal. Yes that benefit should be revoked. I have my opinion of what government benefits should be used for and you have yours. Use your benefits as you see fit, after all they are your benefits. Earning a benefit does not mean that benefit cannot be taken away. If you are committing a illegal act and you are subject to punishment that may include imprisonment and or loss of benefits. Maybe you should evaluate what benefit will benefit you the most. Asking what if questions or asking questions that are pointless and endless only dilute that facts. If your benefit can be canceled or revoked because it was used for illegal purposes and it gets canceled its a lost benefit.[/QUOTE]It's not a what if situation. Illegal is illegal. What possible difference can it make if I'm using benefit money or other money to accomplish the same? You do realize you're on a pay-4-pay review board, right?

[I]"So judge, I made sure I moved the deposit from my military retirement into a separate account before I hit the ATM to get some cash to tear that ass up."[/I] LOL.

Can they stop giving me a tax refund if I use it for pussy?

Please provide a single example of someone losing SSI or other earned benefit from using it for illegal means. I'm not talking about SNAP fraud either.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;3681268]I look at it this way! Take the folks on welfare and any other public assistance and make them serve 4 years. Educate and train them and they will not burden society and they will have health care. The VA is a joke in my opinion! Hard to get things rolling! Game playing by people who think they are God. The veterans that went into the cesspools that the left and right leaners wouldn't think of or know of deserve to be treated with dignity all the way around. If that means they get a disability check and a blue pill to go see a provider so be it! They laid it on the line voluntarily except for the Naim era. So if I have to pay for that, then so be it! I owe them since they fought for my dumb ass to be able to live free without having to show papers to travel. I owe them so I can go buy McD's! Do you get the point? We all have opinions and we all have assholes! Sometimes both stink! Sometimes both smell like roses. To all the mongers that are vets! Go get you some and let go of the stress you incurred in a hostile zone on my dime! Thanks for your service![/QUOTE]For the sake of common sense, you can't have this attitude. What you're basically saying is that since a vet put his life on the line to protect us, he gets virtually unlimited money to spend on whatever whimsical thing he wants to once he gets back stateside? MAKES ZERO SENSE!

Like I already mentioned, if you green light taxpayer-funded boner pills for vets, then you're pretty much green-lighting taxpayers paying for boob jobs, tummy tucks, face lifts, butt implants, and Botox injections for all the female vets who come back and need cosmetic surgery to feel better about themselves! And while you're at it, go ahead and pay for every vet to have all-expenses paid vacations to Hawaii and Thailand because after all, they made big sacrifices to protect our nation so we need to pay for whatever they want when they get back, right? PURE STUPIDITY any way you look at it.

America needs to get back to COMMON SENSE or we're all doomed. Taxes pay for roads and schools, NOT boner pills for horny vets. 99% of all Americans would agree with me on that.

[blue]99% of Americans don't agree that we actually went to the moon so no, 99% of Americans wouldn't agree with you on that.

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[QUOTE=BigGusDickUs55;3680868]As a fellow Disabled American Military Veteran I think that legally obtained benefits should not be used to obtain illegal benefits of any kind. Prostution is illegal and the benefits are being used to support illegal activities. If a Veteran is receiving benefits and trading, selling or using those benefits to enable illegal activities the benefits should be canceled. No benefits received from the government be it VA, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare or SSI should be used to support illegal activities of any kind. I am sure if you researched your benefits legal statements you would find that you could loose your benefits, with the possibility of prosecution for using those benefits in the execution of a punishable crime. I am no legal scholar by any means, but as a dumb jar head I would never endanger loosing my VA benefits for personal pleasure, personal gratification or personal gain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TMeister;3681060]It's nice to see other vets in here using some COMMON SENSE and not looking out for his own selfish interests. Very refreshing!

A lot of us, myself included, grew up with proper values instilled by our parents and our country. We know right from wrong. And we know that all our hard work every day punching a clock and paying taxes is to be used for the right stuff, and not leisurely and illegal activities. I grind it out every day to pay taxes so that my car doesn't fall apart hitting so many potholes and decrepit bridges going to work! I like paying for good schools to the kiddies get a quality edumacation. And I certainly have no problem paying the salaries of the coppers, firemen, and paramedics for keeping the whole messy operation of our daily world running smooth as possible.

But us hard-working Joe's DO have a problem with funding your personal hobbies. Whether you're a vet or not, God did not bestow some divine right on you to enjoy any and all leisure activities with some other poor soul paying for it. That is called SIN in the eyes of the LORD. If you want to use your own funds, well go ahead because it's a free country and you should be able to fund your own hobbies. But once the taxpayers start funding boner pills for the male vets, that means we need to start funding tummy tucks, boob jobs, and Botox shots for all the female vets and that JUST AINT RIGHT. Funding VA healthcare means paying for prosthetic legs and arms, heart operations, and kidney transplants.

What you do with your little wanger with a girlie from a website is all on you and your wallet. That's just the way it needs to be.[/QUOTE]See, there we go. You're acting like it is just as plain as day. Shouldn't be paying for boner pills at taxpayer expense. I can think of several scenarios where ED can be a result of PTSD or other service-related illnesses / injuries. Why would that not be treatable by the VA?

Also, I want to add that "[B]Disabled American Military Veteran[/B]" is not a title and shouldn't be capitalized. I'm also one, and we did our time and get our benefits. I don't need tights and a cape, nor do I need everyone thanking me for my service or running around with "support our troops" stickers all over their cars. I made a deal with the government and kept up my end. Now they can keep theirs. Boner pills included. LOL.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3681446]It's not a what if situation. Illegal is illegal. What possible difference can it make if I'm using benefit money or other money to accomplish the same? You do realize you're on a pay-4-pay review board, right? Can they stop giving me a tax refund if I use it for pussy?[/QUOTE]You're kinda missing the point here. Of course it's virtually impossible to monitor how a vet or welfare recipient uses a government handout. Once Uncle Sam writes you a check, you are free to spend it on anything, whether it's food, rent, or pussy. It's your money and you're free to do as you please.

However, VA health benefits do not fall under that same category. The whole point of VA healthcare is to utilize the federal health system already in place to get maximum benefit for lowest cost to the taxpayers. ALL military folks know that's the deal when they sign the bottom line to commit to service. Otherwise, the USA Govt. Would just hand them a wad of money every month and tell them to purchase their own private health insurance.

VA healthcare is basically an agreement between the public and vets. It's an understanding that in return for military service, the public will fund essential healthcare necessary for normal daily life. Erection pills and Botox injections is NOT a requirement for normal daily life. That is purely lifestyle enhancement and should ONLY be funded by the vets' own personal funds.

You have to draw a line in the sand about things considered vital to everyday life and things seen as purely luxury and lifestyle expenses. Otherwise, the American taxpayer will be obligated to pay for vets' vacations to Acapulco and Bahamas, new Mercedes and Audis, and buying new 80-inch TVs and iPhone 11's and 12's.

I'm giving you guys one more day on this then I'm pulling the plug.

TMeister we all understand what you think about this, there is no need to answer each and every person that doesn't agree with you individually.

You really need to read this as well [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies[/URL].

Your arguments are full of them.

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Getting laid is not just a hobby. Sex improves your life. To say that someone should not be able to get ED meds as part of their health care plan is ludicrous.

I suffer from depression. Getting laid helps me cope. I am on meds that affect my ability to get an erection. My health care plan pays for what I need to perform. What is wrong with that?

If I were a Vet and had my healthcare through the VA, who of you have the right to say that I can't get laid?

Maybe I take Viagra to have sex with my wife. It's none of your business.

Quit writing bullshit on a hooker board about the VA. Write your fucking Congressman if you want change.

Jezzus. Move on. I think that those bitching the most have never experienced the depression following a night of ED. It ain't fun.

Now go back to bitching about NCNS. Bitching about GPS. Complain about H-****** who pass out while blowing you. Leave the guys, I should say, the Vets, who need help alone. You never know, it could be you someday.

Why is it so hard for these girls to try. Yes some do; but I'm not a robot; I need erausal to suduction to proform good. Let me undress you. Just taking off your clothes like; here I am naked; good enough. No; try to get me Eroused please. Damn; are you serious. You do want repeating clients correct. Some of the crapiest bjs I ever got; not even a BJ. You just put my junk in your mouth. Try harder.

Dear Sir / Madam.

I am writing to inform you that Veterans are using their disability and VA medical benefits to obtain hookers, blow and viagra! I find this totally offensive and outrageous! If you need to verify this information, please go to xyz website and read what is posted by the following users! Also I find it absolutely disgusting that you also have different benefits then the common people and use your position of power to score pussy easier then me!

TMEISTER.

Dear Mr. TMIESTER,

Thank you for your concern. Unfortunately it has fallen on deaf ears! If you haven't realized the Federal Government is a corrupt and self serving entity. If you truly knew the scope of all that goes on. Well you would be writing letters to every politician on capital hill! Also, I would like to inform you that the IRS and NSA will be paying you a visit in the coming months.

Yours truly,

XYZ Politican.

As I learned as a young man in a MAFIA run town. You hate the game and not the players. That way you stay alive and sane. Sorry ADMIN2 about the hard spacing. Please don't hate me, I am just a player in the mongering game!

[QUOTE=BTBear;3681561]Getting laid is not just a hobby. Sex improves your life. To say that someone should not be able to get ED meds as part of their health care plan is ludicrous.

I suffer from depression. Getting laid helps me cope. I am on meds that affect my ability to get an erection. My health care plan pays for what I need to perform. What is wrong with that?

[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with it at all. I risk a lot to participate in the hobby partly because, for me, getting a piece with some regularity is part of a well-lived life. I don't need ED meds, but should I need them, I too would use whatever insurance I have to get them.

I think there are bigger things to worry about than where guys get ED pills. Such as the fact that some harpie at work can ruin you for life by accusing you of having tried to get into her panties, no proof required. I'm not discounting legit cases, am only referring to the bogus ones.

In that context, staying safe and discreet in the hobby is more important than ever, as your mileage could really vary by trying to get laid outside the hobby anymore. Let's get back to talking about good old fashioned field reports.

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Times up, this was the most ridiculous thing you have ever posted.

The fallacy on this one was "false analogy" you getting a new iPhone and a trip to Barbados isn't the same as a medical plan that covers a legitimate medical issue.

Times up on this discussion.

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[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;3681626]Dear Sir / Madam.

I am writing to inform you that Veterans are using their disability and VA medical benefits to obtain hookers, blow and viagra! I find this totally offensive and outrageous! If you need to verify this information, please go to xyz website and read what is posted by the following users! Also I find it absolutely disgusting that you also have different benefits then the common people and use your position of power to score pussy easier then me!

TMEISTER.

Dear Mr. TMIESTER,

Thank you for your concern. Unfortunately it has fallen on deaf ears! If you haven't realized the Federal Government is a corrupt and self serving entity. If you truly knew the scope of all that goes on. Well you would be writing letters to every politician on capital hill! Also, I would like to inform you that the IRS and NSA will be paying you a visit in the coming months.

Yours truly,

XYZ Politican.

As I learned as a young man in a MAFIA run town. You hate the game and not the players. That way you stay alive and sane. Sorry ADMIN2 about the hard spacing. Please don't hate me, I am just a player in the mongering game![/QUOTE]But before the windows close, I just want to say I think this was fucking [B]awesome[/B]!

[URL=https://imgur.com/a/a2xUW]Bravo sir![/URL]

Let's have a monger party to discuss these fine points.

Rule 1) discussion occurs after fucking.

Rule 2) lots of fucking occurs.

How did one set these up in the past?

JB.

[QUOTE=JohnnyBoy69;3680661]I saw mention in another post about a monger party. A) did those happen that often? And B) do they happen nowadays? I think that would be one hell of a good time.

JB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyBoy69;3682924]Let's have a monger party to discuss these fine points.

Rule 1) discussion occurs after fucking.

Rule 2) lots of fucking occurs.

How did one set these up in the past?

JB.[/QUOTE]Dude, that's twice in a couple of days that you've been trying to hit up a monger party. I mean, why do you want to be part of a big sausage fest? Go find some pussy or hit up one of the swinger houses. Plenty of creepy people there that want to talk and fuck.

[QUOTE=Thors;3681566]Why is it so hard for these girls to try. Yes some do; but I'm not a robot; I need erausal to suduction to proform good. [/QUOTE]Do I ever agree with this. In my late 60's I still have the drive, but need a little coaxing and arousal to complete things. I've had a few providers that understand this and seductively and coyly play around for 15 minutes before going full steam. I've had a number of them who do not. The ones who make it enticing wind up having to do less work because they "prep" me much better. And it's a hell of a lot more fun than those that have their eye on the clock and the finish from the time I walk in the door.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3683071]Dude, that's twice in a couple of days that you've been trying to hit up a monger party. I mean, why do you want to be part of a big sausage fest? Go find some pussy or hit up one of the swinger houses. Plenty of creepy people there that want to talk and fuck.[/QUOTE]

Nevermind. Not going to respond other than to say, thanks for the response. ;-)

JB