It's easy to see why PA does so well with the ladies!
[QUOTE=PilotAviator;6632981]There are many ladies that DO CARE. They care to be treated with respect and at the minimum social kindness. Some even care about the human who is the monger.
Yes. They all care about the money too -- but so does every other "small business" man or woman.
So, respectfully, I disagree with your "honest statement. ".
PA.[/QUOTE]When I first read PapiKulo's argument I was torn both ways. There is some truth to what he says but I think maybe he could have elaborated somewhat more from the gals' perspective. Listen if you visit a provider and she dishes out a plate of goodies worth $1. 5 and you only pay her. 50 then she has all the right in the world not to see you again and conversely, if you are throwing $2. 0 at her and you have poor hygiene, a bad attitude and are constantly sticking or prodding the poor girl with your thick fingers; I would say she has every right to avoid you in the future. This is a business, but the gals are woman and woman like to be treated like ladies; they prefer gentleman, that is the bottom line.
This is a YMMV hobby, and it may take a while to find the right girl, but they are out there. Yes, yes, and double yes, I have a new ATF! I have been visiting Cherri at MAY WELLNESS, for some time. I have written about her just recently, but I thought I would add some more to the mix. This gal treats me like a King even from our first date, without ever asking me how much I would pay. She always tells me that I treat her with respect and that I am a gentleman. Now if you read between the lines; she may be saying that many out there are not. She is very comfortable with me as I am with her and I am more than twice her age, but there are boundaries that can't be crossed with this one, (I keep trying anyway) and you must respect that. Anyhow she is a my new "All-time favorite" but only the "LITE" version. I couldn't be happier.
If you decide to see her just keep this in mind and be respectful. Believe me, you don't want to get on the wrong side of Nicole.
Gentleman always do better with the ladies.
Regards.
PJ.
Disappointing service is not theft
[QUOTE=PuntaJaco43;6633261]When I first read PapiKulo's argument I was torn both ways. There is some truth to what he says but I think maybe he could have elaborated somewhat more from the gals' perspective. Listen if you visit a provider and she dishes out a plate of goodies worth $1. 5 and you only pay her. 50 then she has all the right in the world not to see you again and conversely, if you are throwing $2. 0 at her and you have poor hygiene, a bad attitude and are constantly sticking or prodding the poor girl with your thick fingers; I would say she has every right to avoid you in the future. This is a business, but the gals are woman and woman like to be treated like ladies; they prefer gentleman, that is the bottom line.
This is a YMMV hobby, and it may take a while to find the right girl, but they are out there. Yes, yes, and double yes, I have a new ATF! I have been visiting Cherri at MAY WELLNESS, for some time. I have written about her just recently, but I thought I would add some more to the mix. This gal treats me like a King even from our first date, without ever asking me how much I would pay. She always tells me that I treat her with respect and that I am a gentleman. Now if you read between the lines; she may be saying that many out there are not. She is very comfortable with me as I am with her and I am more than twice her age, but there are boundaries that can't be crossed with this one, (I keep trying anyway) and you must respect that. Anyhow she is a my new "All-time favorite" but only the "LITE" version. I couldn't be happier..[/QUOTE]Getting service that you perceive as subpar is not theft on her part.
We all have to remember that participating in this hobby (at least in Va) is illegal. If you jerk off into a massage oil bottle at a legit spa they can call the cops on you. Likewise if you short a provider on agreed to funds after the act she won't call the cops on you, but you are still being an ass.
The only recourse you should follow is to take your business elsewhere and report your experience here. I have learned that about half the providers I have seen to be very accommodating and about the other half are there to take your money. Some on here recently acquitted this to provider age but I have seen good and bad with old and young.
Surprising, in Asia, rarely had a provider that wouldn't perform every sex act I requested with enthusiasm and without complaints. Maybe Thai, Viet, Panoy, Cambodian, Orang, Lao girls over there are happy with their chosen profession.
Even providers over here can change with time. I have a favorite that I saw just this morning. When I arrived she asked me to drive her to a Chinese supermarket to pick up some things and when we returned she was really not into the BBFS as before. After the deed she asked me for 20 more than usual to which I said no and just paid her the 120 I had before. Don't think she will be on my short list any longer.
Be polite and respectful. If they are not in return they find a new place.
The value of the forum, again
I never thought posting a simple review on a Sunday afternoon would have provoked such a reaction. However, the reaction again demonstrates the value of this forum. A couple of mongers admitted to engaging in unseemly behavior, even by monger standards, and got called out for it. I hope they learned a valuable lesson. That should teach the rest of us to be more careful with our behavior.
None of us are paragons of virtue. Otherwise we wouldn't be mongers. Treating the ladies properly, even if they perform poorly or don't give us our money's worth, is nevertheless important. So is not acting in such a way that we're creating health hazards for providers or future customers. Or, even worse, attracting the wrong kind of attention from the health department and/or our least favorite uncle.
And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
This turnaround might be heaven to some.
Was in the neighborhood of Best Therapy in Chantilly and stopped in to visit a old friend of maybe 13 years, Lucy Lu. Turns out she has 3 new gals there that I met and had the pleasure of one.
The interesting thing is that 2 of the girls are Vietnamese (SP) from California. Both, IMHO, are young vivacious girls that are good looking, tall and thin with great assets. They are up for fun if you bring good money. Names are Jenny and Coco. (I know there are a million Coco's). Jenny was up and I had an hour in Heaven. I plan to return to visit Coco next. Hot numbers! Both!
Jenny speaks English and Coco no. Funny thing is neither speak Korean, like the manager does. So English is the common language in a Korean spa!
The third gal is a classy Hispanic, Jasmine. She speaks perfect English, as she grew up in the US, and is fun to talk to. She is round all over with big boobs and big buns. If that is your style. All 3 have gotten great feedback frm what I saw on mmsn's phone, thanking her for the "massages".
I always get a nice reception as I am nice to the ladies and tip well. Turns out they finally have got some first class gals, so treat them right. The 2 Vietnamese girls go back to CA 11/10 but. Plan to come back again in a few weeks.
Enjoy as I did.
DC.
Crossing over to the Dark Side
Ever since I started mongering I've had this perverted fantasy to convince girls to cross over to the dark side I. E. Convince a non P4P girl to take money from a stranger to perform a sex act. My most memorable time this happened was here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3017-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-TULIP-ONLY[/URL]!&p=868942#post868942.
(post #753) where I convinced that 20 yo house maid at the world famous Tulip AMP in Bangkok to have full unprotected sex with me in a threesum for mere pocket change. She crossed over and I was her first real customer.
Today may or may not be another example but it sure felt like it to me. I went to go see my favorite Thai wax girl for another Brazilian wax. Been there three times to this small private legit shop with no extras offered or implied. She lets me touch her ass while she is ripping out hairs but to me that is just a distraction from the pain. Today during the waxing Jr was awake more than usual. While checking by backside for strays her inspection almost equated to a PM and when she rubbed over my balls looking for strays it just became too much to handle.
I asked her if she could take care of me and I would take care of her. She paused for a minute and said nothing so I thought I offended her, then she just started stroking ever so softly. Her hands were dry so she went slow and applied no pressure but coming from her it sure felt good. After a few minutes she paused and bent over and sucked my freshly hairless dick and the sight was incredible. She stood up and looked me in the eyes as I shot over my head and off the table. That visual, and the thought that she crossed over, was more intense than fucking Joyce in the ass.
While finishing up she turned back to being a bit shy and I thanked her and tipped $. Can't wait to go back next month and see if she has any more surprises for me.
The quest continues.
Great Nova Massage Experience. Bamboo Therapy
I find I have the best experiences with the NoVA AMPs. As an over-60 (by a lot) monger, I'm more comfortable with the over-40 talent. Of which there is an ample supply.
Bamboo Therapy is a small but very-well managed massage center due to the experience of the MSS / staff.
Although current building renovations have closed some offices in the Medical Building, Bamboo Therapy was renovated last year and is open, clean. A very nice place.
I enjoyed a great massage experience this week (as usual / and as I expected). All aspects were to my liking. So, for me, excellent (as I expected). YMMV.
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
The Spa next to Eastern in Fairfax
I visited the new spa next to Eastern in Fairfax this afternoon.
I called two hours ahead of time to make sure Amy was there (due to the reviews here).
A lady named Lulu opened the door (4/10 face and 5/10 body). I made sure to ask for her name because I have never seen Amy. She told me that Amy was in the other room.
Amy then appears from behind a partition and greets me with a smile and hug.
I pay $80 for an hour massage.
Much of what I read about Amy was true but her ass is not that round or nice in my view. There is just not a lot to grab on to.
It's true that she is flat chested and is petite. I think she is in her early 40's.
I asked her where she was from, to confirm it was Amy and she said Taiwan.
Her face is about a 5/10 and her body is maybe a 6/10.
She kisses but it's more like she sticks her tongue out there, which is a strange type of kissing.
After about 15 minutes of massaging which was pretty good, she asked how much I was going to tip and what I wanted.
I told her "boom boom" and she said $160, I countered with $140 and she agreed.
She did some BBBJ before putting on a condom and then CFS. She seemed pretty into it. Eyes were closed about 80% of the time and kept saying "Your #1".
Switched two positions and then released on her chest.
She really does not know any English so she communicates with you using her translator app on her phone.
Overall, it was ok but I am not sure I will be coming back.
If what you are after is BBBJ or CFS from a 40 why / o petite Asian then she might be what you are looking for.
Forever Wellness's hot BBBJCIM
Was in yellow fever and thought it's got to be a MILF, hot MILF. Drove 25 min and got there. Called ahead so Grace was waiting for me. We been met more than 5 times so I can tell she really knows me. Table massage was great and she didn't mind giving a sensual TS. She gave me a brief HJ while cleaning the package. Massage is always great. Just great. She then dropped her clothes and then give a great blow job. I asked her to climb up the table and she did. Had her squatted down on my face. She allowed me to taste her soft and tasteful vagina lips. I gently kissed on her lips and then started giving a vigorous tongue bath on her clit. She got wet a lot and I devoured her juice. Went 69 and her head game is top notch. I often thrusted her mouth in that position, she was patient. It was pleasurable. I started crying & shivering my body. Her mouth vacuum got stronger. Grace didn't stop giving head though there was nothing left to fill the bag. I patted her ass and she stopped head game. Hope someday I could plow her kitty.