"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2522393]Well, the T-Bops demanding money for er-nothing are starting to show up again. Here's a good one " Help me out and I'll help you out" followed by "Networking to get a better paying job, or meeting up with no sexual behavior involved".

Cute 19 yr old. I wonder how she plans on helping her nonexistent benefactor? Can you guys think of any way a 19 yr old can help you besides the obvious?

Here's another -perhaps a 10/10 19 yr old " A polite respectful man to take care of me. Friendship only! " Both on the same page

Oops ! Found another 21 yr old cutie" Someone who is willing to throw a couple of bucks my way. Not asking for much. I am not interested in a sexual relationship---"

Anybody in the RVA market interested in a cash and dash alert PM me. Must be a known poster.[/QUOTE]Fred: my curiosity is really up on these. Just for shits and giggles perhaps you should pose the question of what they offer in the way of "help" to their benefactors.

Some of these T-bops were very popular in high school and honestly believe that it carries over into the real world. That guys like us are dying to just sit and talk with them and hand over whatever they need. I actually enjoy telling them that I am not that desperate for someone to talk to.

NEXT!

Anyone ever hang out with a gorgeous UTR redhead in Chester VA named Stephanie? Please PM me. Thanks.

After a Pot express that she's not interested, how many have you followed up after a few months? Or you don't follow up unless the Pot follows up.

I don't do it but I am curious.

Did anyone actually pay for her time to meet? Did that really go anywhere with that pot?

I feel like doing this is feeding an ego and is a waste.

I had a couple of hotties ask and I said no, of course.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;2523451]I don't do it but I am curious.

Did anyone actually pay for her time to meet? Did that really go anywhere with that pot?

I feel like doing this is feeding an ego and is a waste.

I had a couple of hotties ask and I said no, of course.[/QUOTE]Pay for her coffee, drinks, dinner, or whatever, but never, ever just hand her cash for a M&G, that just sets a bad precedent for any future arrangement with the POT. *UNLESS* a POT is driving a fair distance to come see you, I personally feel it is fair to reimburse her gas money. I will give a POT gas money if she is driving a half-hour or more.

[QUOTE=Falar;2523404]After a Pot express that she's not interested, how many have you followed up after a few months? Or you don't follow up unless the Pot follows up.[/QUOTE]I've tried to occasionally follow up with a POT, but I usually find the waters are still just as frigid as they were before. I've had one POT get back to me months later, which led to a fun one night stand.

Signed up with SA for the first time in a couple of months. They had banned my IP address from *ALL* of their sites, claiming I was doing something I wasn't. So I used an IP proxy and have crafted a new profile using a new e-mail addy. It isn't background verified like I used to be, but I'm sure as hell not forking over that kind of money again if SA can just ban people for no good reason and not refund the money.

I've had a promising POT respond to my initial messages. Says she's tired of other guys on the site giving her promises and not being able to follow through. Luckily for her, I can promise and deliver, especially since her needs seems pretty small in comparison to my past SBs for the most part.

Another POT was responding to messages but seems to think she can call the shots. Sorry, but I've got the cash so I call the shots. Going to have to let her realize that daddy doesn't play by the baby's rules, it's vice versa.

Lots of other messages sent out. The game is on.

Thanks to the helpful posts here and to member Falcon, I've got more Pots than I can handle. Three 19-22 in Richmond and two 19-28 in Norfolk area. Also have one 19 y / o under under a monthly allowance already.

I'm 58 and very average with my looks and build. Once I put up private photos showing I wasn't a beer gut guy, the interest really went up.

I've got m&g on Monday and Tuesday, a FC with my original SB on Wednesday. Thank goodness for Cialis. Works better than Viagra for me.

I have had better success with AA women than white. Age doesn't seem to matter as much. And so far they kiss a lot more passionately.

[QUOTE=FotoGuy1970;2523821]Signed up with SA for the first time in a couple of months. They had banned my IP address from *ALL* of their sites, claiming I was doing something I wasn't. So I used an IP proxy and have crafted a new profile using a new e-mail addy. It isn't background verified like I used to be, but I'm sure as hell not forking over that kind of money again if SA can just ban people for no good reason and not refund the money.

I've had a promising POT respond to my initial messages. Says she's tired of other guys on the site giving her promises and not being able to follow through. Luckily for her, I can promise and deliver, especially since her needs seems pretty small in comparison to my past SBs for the most part.

Another POT was responding to messages but seems to think she can call the shots. Sorry, but I've got the cash so I call the shots. Going to have to let her realize that daddy doesn't play by the baby's rules, it's vice versa.

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[QUOTE=NcNative;2522258]I am 56. I initially got shots at doctor's office in December 2011. Weighed 227 lbs. Once every 4 weeks, then once every 3 weeks. Then began to commute out of town and needed to find a doctor to give me the shot. The guy I found convinced me to give myself a shot every 3. 5 days at a lower dose.

I am at 195 lbs now. I get night-time erections like a high school kid. I workout and cycle regularly. I still do need Levitra for consistency. A couple of nights ago, I met a SB and we went at it for a solid hour. Longest I have ever done, even when I was younger. I had self prepped 36 hours earlier to keep from finishing with her too quickly.

My total testosterone is right at 600. Right in the middle of the range.

I am pre-diabetic, so even if there is some risk to the T therapy. I weigh that risk against other health concerns. I feel very good about what I am doing.[/QUOTE]Good results. Especially the weight loss. The big thing I changed after a while in the bowl was the type of girl I would see. At first I got all these hotties with no regard to thier personality. But once I realized the over abundance of girls available I started focusing more on personality and very specific body type as well. If I have that its like an extra dose of meds. LOL. At this point and for a the last few years it has been my biggest qualifier. Real man pleasers. So even if all the drugs don't give me an instant erection the girl will. I suppose with the drugs you can get it up for any girl on some level. But for the right type girl + the therapy its a real win win. I like a hottie as much as the next guy but I really try to see where their head is at before meeting them. And reducing my sugar also pushed me in that direction.

[QUOTE=NormGerd;2409955]So while we are on the subject of where to go to meet a POT, I am extremely uncomforatble picking a young one up at a parent's house. Today, a very hot early 20's POT told me she currently is without car, and I would have to come pick her up at Mom and Dads. It's pretty weird for me. Any wisdom on this topic? She tried to reassure me they would not be coming out to meet me or anything but still.
Norm!![/QUOTE]That is just a BAD idea. I like the young ones so I have this kind of scenario a lot. I won't do it. She can meet me one subway stop away from home or at an intersection 3 - 4 blocks away.

Let's list the problems:

1. You have not yet verified her age. Say she is just 17 and the parents call law enforcement when they see how old you are and that their daughter just got in your car?

2. Even if she is 18, say her parents call law enforcement? Are you sure they won't try and find you?

3. Violence. Maybe against you, maybe against her. Do you need this kind of risk?

4. And probably the most likely issue. That if the parents see her getting in a car with you they will give her the third degree and any potential arrangement will be nipped in the bud.

[blue]Man I gotta agree with the new guy here, picking up at mommy and daddies would be a HUGE no fucking way for me.

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Had an interesting M&G. She was a 25 year old Asian. We met at a local Italian restaurant. Her profile on SA led me to believe she was a pro but I will let you decide. She arrived early at the bar and we had a glass of wine. I cleared the tab and we went to our table on the patio. After a while there was mutual caressing on the arms, shoulder and back. She had a strong Asian accent that required her to repeat her sentences. Maybe I'm just deaf. Toward the end of our dinner she started asking about the arrangement. Frequency, time, and amount. We settled on an allowance for a few times a month. At the end of our dinner she started talking about how she likes to do oral and other things. The little head was getting very excited, I asked her if she liked to use toys and she said yes. I offered to buy her a toy at a local store and she agreed. As we were heading to the toy store she pulled my hand over her thigh so I could stroke her leg. She pulled up her skirt up and was going commando. It was nice rubbing that sweet clam as I was driving down Broad Street. It was weird walking into the store with a hot Asian women to pick out a dildo. She selected a jack rabbit that I had suggested and we went to the counter to make sure it worked OK. After we got in the car she pulled the toy out and started to look at it. She wanted to use it right away so I pulled into an alley. Once in the alley she started to use the jack rabbit while I caressed her nice tits and had some DFK. After she came I asked her if she wanted to come to my house. She politely said that she did not want to come to my place on the first date because it would it seem like she was a * We are scheduled to meet next Saturday. I was fortunate to find a young lady from my mongering side to take the pressure off later that evening.

She definitly knows the game, maby a utr? Clearly not a lost young innocent soul! Since you are an experienced monger, roll with it and see how it unfolds (pun intended).

I'm 3 weeks into my SA account, ton of chatting, several m&g's, several pro's from VERY low level to high end, but pro non the less. A couple strong possibilities. Damn this is getting interesting. Should have done the SA thing from the start.

[QUOTE=MulchMan;2524250]Had an interesting M&G. She was a 25 year old Asian. We met at a local Italian restaurant. Her profile on SA led me to believe she was a pro but I will let you decide. She arrived early at the bar and we had a glass of wine. I cleared the tab and we went to our table on the patio. After a while there was mutual caressing on the arms, shoulder and back. She had a strong Asian accent that required her to repeat her sentences. Maybe I'm just deaf. Toward the end of our dinner she started asking about the arrangement. Frequency, time, and amount. We settled on an allowance for a few times a month. At the end of our dinner she started talking about how she likes to do oral and other things. The little head was getting very excited, I asked her if she liked to use toys and she said yes. I offered to buy her a toy at a local store and she agreed. As we were heading to the toy store she pulled my hand over her thigh so I could stroke her leg. She pulled up her skirt up and was going commando. It was nice rubbing that sweet clam as I was driving down Broad Street. It was weird walking into the store with a hot Asian women to pick out a dildo. She selected a jack rabbit that I had suggested and we went to the counter to make sure it worked OK. After we got in the car she pulled the toy out and started to look at it. She wanted to use it right away so I pulled into an alley. Once in the alley she started to use the jack rabbit while I caressed her nice tits and had some DFK. After she came I asked her if she wanted to come to my house. She politely said that she did not want to come to my place on the first date because it would it seem like she was a * We are scheduled to meet next Saturday. I was fortunate to find a young lady from my mongering side to take the pressure off later that evening.[/QUOTE]