"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Well it's been an exciting week, after discovering this thread (excellent resource, like I found the missing code book) and doing several hours of reading I took the plunge and opened an SA account.

That was Monday. I put up a reasonably crafted profile, sent out a number of Hey Baby Girls, and the response has been very good.

I'm in the Boston area so there are tons of collages. Right now I'm carrying a conversation with 10 pots, and really I think I've a good chance of 3-5 m&g's in the next week or so.

But I do have some questions for the more experienced hands.

1. I put up a profile pic that shows my clothed body (I'm in seriously great shape) and just a part of my face, what seems to be the standard. What do most do? I'm older, 58, claimed 52 on the site but can easily pass for 45 ish.

I'm not Brad Pitt but not a gargoyle either. No one has even me asked to send a full face shot.

2. I have very good income, but as we know the more you make, the more you spend, and I'm not sure I did the right thing by checking it off on the profile box.

Marriage, my own kids in collage, takes it toll and I don't want to look like a lolly-pop and get the sucker pricing. My budget for this is OK but not over the top.

3. Our going rate for working BP girls $ 1/2 for 1/2 hour, $$ to $$$ for an hour and like anywhere BP is BP, diamonds yes but lots of rough. Hot Euro girls get 4 $ downtown.

I'm thinking with the 18-23 crowd, $ is the start maybe slightly less, maybe more, reasonable?

Is there anyone here with solid Boston experience? All comments and suggestion are welcome. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ReaperGuy;2519467]Apparently being barely average looking but not being a complete creeper pays off yet again![/QUOTE]Absolutely. Still early on in my sugar experience, but the girls I've talked to so far have all said they'd met a bunch of flakes and creeps, and were very happy I'm a reasonable, decent, and friendly kind of guy.

[QUOTE=SouthShoreAlex;2520262]Well it's been an exciting week, after discovering this thread (excellent resource, like I found the missing code book) and doing several hours of reading I took the plunge and opened an SA account.

That was Monday. I put up a reasonably crafted profile, sent out a number of Hey Baby Girls, and the response has been very good.

I'm in the Boston area so there are tons of collages. Right now I'm carrying a conversation with 10 pots, and really I think I've a good chance of 3-5 m&g's in the next week or so.

But I do have some questions for the more experienced hands.

1. I put up a profile pic that shows my clothed body (I'm in seriously great shape) and just a part of my face, what seems to be the standard. What do most do? I'm older, 58, claimed 52 on the site but can easily pass for 45 ish.

I'm not Brad Pitt but not a gargoyle either. No one has even me asked to send a full face shot.

2. I have very good income, but as we know the more you make, the more you spend, and I'm not sure I did the right thing by checking it off on the profile box.

Marriage, my own kids in collage, takes it toll and I don't want to look like a lolly-pop and get the sucker pricing. My budget for this is OK but not over the top.

3. Our going rate for working BP girls $ 1/2 for 1/2 hour, $$ to $$$ for an hour and like anywhere BP is BP, diamonds yes but lots of rough. Hot Euro girls get 4 $ downtown.

I'm thinking with the 18-23 crowd, $ is the start maybe slightly less, maybe more, reasonable?

Is there anyone here with solid Boston experience? All comments and suggestion are welcome. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the bowl. As long as the pic makes you look reasonably good, don't worry about it. These girls are not as hung up on looks as we are. They are more interested in how well you treat them and some sugar, not necessarily in that order. Don't go too high on the income level. The more you show the more the girls will want. Now, they are not going to go to the FC for free. But, you can start your offers at $100 and work up from there. Be mindful of what your budget will allow you to spend per month and stick to it. My personal rule of thumb is to do p4 p, and never more than $200 per date. I try to stay at $150 or less. Some will tell you no, they want more. Stick to your budget. I recently had a POT tell me that she was not interested in anything less than $250.1 month later she agreed to $150 with me because she was meeting nothing but assholes who never came up with the sugar dates. Also, remember that SB's should spend a couple of hours with you for that. Escorts charge by the hour, SB's accept gifts for a date. Don't be bashful about reminding them of that if they start to push the issue.

Good luck in the bowl and play safe. Be sure to update us occasionally on your progress.

Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?

I had a dream that Heaven11 is a pro masquerading as a baby. I kind of knew it going in. All the signs were there. But thought with my little head. Once I got there felt like I had to go through with it and forked over a not insignificant amount. Tried to get into it but she was too cold. Insisted on seeing the donation and counting it before she would even touch (which also made me paranoid about My uncle swinging by). Luckily (for me fate intervened. I had accidentally dropped my protection in the parking lot and she wouldn't proceed to even bare minimum without it which as you all know is atypical for the babies. So faced with the choice of going to the car to get more or going to the car and just leaving, I chose the the latter. Her admonition of "hurry back, your hour is running" was the final blow.

Pissed that I wasted the cash but with two free babies in active duty right now and other warm and sweet POTs in the development phase, this was just a great reminder of why I left that game.

Based in DC but travel to Boston often. It's a great market. Going rate seems to be same as DC. I think a little higher than you are expecting, but quality and amount of time makes it worth the investment in my book. I've gotten all day or repeat visits for what turned out to be a very reasonable consideration. Happy to share my thoughts by PM.

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2520838]I had a dream that Heaven11 is a pro masquerading as a baby. I kind of knew it going in. All the signs were there. But thought with my little head. Once I got there felt like I had to go through with it and forked over a not insignificant amount. Tried to get into it but she was too cold. Insisted on seeing the donation and counting it before she would even touch (which also made me paranoid about My uncle swinging by). Luckily (for me fate intervened. I had accidentally dropped my protection in the parking lot and she wouldn't proceed to even bare minimum without it which as you all know is atypical for the babies. So faced with the choice of going to the car to get more or going to the car and just leaving, I chose the the latter. Her admonition of "hurry back, your hour is running" was the final blow.

Pissed that I wasted the cash but with two free babies in active duty right now and other warm and sweet POTs in the development phase, this was just a great reminder of why I left that game.[/QUOTE]That was definitely a pro. When dealing with SB's never agree to pay up front. Never go over your budget no matter how hot she is. Cover what activities are expected before you get to the FC so you are thinking more with the big head. And most importantly, always be prepared to walk if things are not as you want them to be. There are far more of them than there are of us. It's really not hard to just say NEXT!

I am not bored and looking for a few new good ones. Please PM me the ones you are bored with.

Ftp1999.

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2520661]Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2520661]Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?[/QUOTE]You don't know what bored is until you CAN"T look for any new girls. Count your blessings guys.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2522145]You don't know what bored is until you CAN"T look for any new girls. Count your blessings guys.[/QUOTE]Without knowing the specifics of your sciatica / foot problem, I will say the amount of info available on YouTube these days free of charge that can help is insane.

I've talked a lot about my love for exercise, but I haven't talked about how much I've always hated stretching. I enjoy the increased heart rate / endorphins and "pump" feeling I get from working out, but the before and after stretching was something I tended to skip when I was younger, until later I started paying the price for it.

The older I get the more I realize the importance of stretching and how many things can be healed with it. It takes some experimentation and self-education to figure out which stretches will solve a particular ailment, and for me its tough to motivate myself to get going with it, compared to the more "action-oriented" parts of working out, but I've seen so many of my own injuries that otherwise lingered for years disappear once I found the right stretch that I now force myself to do this before and after each gym session.

Basically I have to force myself to stretch adequately because I didn't form the right habits when I was younger, but now that I've seen the benefits I have strong motivation to keep it up.

A lot of times its deceptively simple -- figure out the stretch that affects the pain or issue the most, and there's your clue. Other times its not so straightforward, I. E. Stretching and strengthening certain hip / butt muscles in order to solve a knee problem, etc.

Stretching itself doesn't necessarily help you in bed directly (maybe lower back stretches would be the exception), but it does help you keep doing the exercises that will help in bed without downtime or injury.

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;2521886]That was definitely a pro. When dealing with SB's never agree to pay up front. Never go over your budget no matter how hot she is. Cover what activities are expected before you get to the FC so you are thinking more with the big head. And most importantly, always be prepared to walk if things are not as you want them to be. There are far more of them than there are of us. It's really not hard to just say NEXT![/QUOTE]Oh I know all this. I think I went in part because (a) she was really hot and (b) I was morbidly curious just how pro she was. Had she been more genuine I would have stayed notwithstanding the price. I would have even been ok with a CBJ. I think the lesson for me here was not so much about better screening; it was that I only have an appetite for amateur / true SBs. Much like in basketball, it is all about the college game for me.

[QUOTE=DogSun;2518992]I've noticed that more than a few of the questions / advice on here has pertained to erection problems, libido issues and overall health and fitness. I'm wondering if there's anyone on here that's taking testosterone replacement therapy? I started about 8 weeks ago, and it has completely changed my life. My waning libido is back like I'm 18 again. My erections are more frequent and harder than ever. I'm able to have sex multiple times per day. All of these things have been giving me problems over the past 2 years or so. Not to mention I've been an animal in the gym, and in general am more aggressive (not in a negative way) have an improved mood, and in general a more positive outlook on life.[/QUOTE]I am 56. I initially got shots at doctor's office in December 2011. Weighed 227 lbs. Once every 4 weeks, then once every 3 weeks. Then began to commute out of town and needed to find a doctor to give me the shot. The guy I found convinced me to give myself a shot every 3. 5 days at a lower dose.

I am at 195 lbs now. I get night-time erections like a high school kid. I workout and cycle regularly. I still do need Levitra for consistency. A couple of nights ago, I met a SB and we went at it for a solid hour. Longest I have ever done, even when I was younger. I had self prepped 36 hours earlier to keep from finishing with her too quickly.

My total testosterone is right at 600. Right in the middle of the range.

I am pre-diabetic, so even if there is some risk to the T therapy. I weigh that risk against other health concerns. I feel very good about what I am doing.

I understand what you mean about the boredom. I have felt it. I did a string of m&gs that left me more tired than excited. I suspect, if you're anything like me, you feel it when you're bored with the current rotation, or when all you're meeting are pots that are nando 1 types that start out by talking about their needs and what they want. I've found that both exhausting and boring.

What you need to find is a fresh young baby that is not jaded by the game, in it for the right reasons, and who genuinely likes you. It will completely re-energize you.

After another series of m&gs this past week, I have decided to take a break from the search to cultivate my two babies and work on one pot that have made it past the m&g process.

My Asian grad student is a little to needy emotionally and financially, but she adores me. That, and her lithe runners body have made it so she stays in rotation. I get the feeling she would do almost anything to please me, which is both good and bad.

My 18 why / o blonde and I are going strong. She is sweet, submissive in some ways and fiercly independent in others. It helps that she loves sex, but has an innocence about her that comes from a lack of experience, which is more than made up by her desire to please. We had a light bondage session during our last meet and trip to the FC. I used some neck ties to tie her up and blindfold her. Then I had my way with her, using every hole. I lost my load when she started whimpering "daddy, please don't stop, its kind of hurts, but it feels so so good. ". Like my asian grad student, she wants so badly to please me that I sometimes wonder how far I could take this one. She has told me that she isn't interested in being with another girl and me at the same time, but I'm considering whether or not to bring these two babies together for a threesome.

Both of these young ladies took down their SA profiles voluntarily without me requesting that they do so. That in itself was a bit of an ego boost / rush.

After working a large number of pots and a series of m&gs, there is only one more pot that might have a chance at making it into my rotation. She is a 19 why / o Asian who is new to the site. Really tight body, tall, with long legs. She is a typical 19 year old, and probably won't last very long in rotation because of that, but she is hot enough to pursue. If her FC skills make up for the boring conversation then she might close out my summer rotation.

So if you're feeling bowl fatigue, I'd say its probably because you're bored with your current rotation. Also the rising summer tide in the bowl came with lots of flotsam and jetsam. There are still high quality babies to be had though, you just have to sort through the crap to find them.

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2520661]Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?[/QUOTE]

Well, the T-Bops demanding money for er-nothing are starting to show up again. Here's a good one " Help me out and I'll help you out" followed by "Networking to get a better paying job, or meeting up with no sexual behavior involved".

Cute 19 yr old. I wonder how she plans on helping her nonexistent benefactor? Can you guys think of any way a 19 yr old can help you besides the obvious?

Here's another -perhaps a 10/10 19 yr old " A polite respectful man to take care of me. Friendship only! " Both on the same page

Oops ! Found another 21 yr old cutie" Someone who is willing to throw a couple of bucks my way. Not asking for much. I am not interested in a sexual relationship---"

Anybody in the RVA market interested in a cash and dash alert PM me. Must be a known poster.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2522393]Oops ! Found another 21 yr old cutie " Someone who is willing to throw a couple of bucks my way. Not asking for much. I am not interested in a sexual relationship---"
[/QUOTE]Thought I'd take a second to make use of the index (to create awareness of it and regurgitate some possible reasons for what you're seeing without typing it again).

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480292&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2480292.

Post #3, reference to post #8243.