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I posted about here a little while back. We messaged back and forth, but got no where. I got some pm's that she has a bf or handler who may be up to good so I stop pursuing.
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Has anyone has any experience with this lady?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Runner8;5621559]Finally heard back from her and she wanted 450! She said she would take less but than ghosted. Bye Felicia LOL. Some of these girls are a bit unrealistic (especially with the gift lists and $3,000 purses haha) and IMHO guys that will spend that kinda money are only fueling the situation.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4acc0574-5287-4d8e-8eea-a8b87f016a5f[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a thief. I keep a little extra, easily accessed but not in plain sight, for those moments when you need a bit more. After round one, like a minute's inattention was all it took for her to snatch it and bolt.
I really don't understand why chicks do that; they can get [B]so[/B] much more if they just take their allowance every week like a good girl.
Thanks for the additional intel Kenny G.
Runner.
[QUOTE=KennyG;5627873]She's a thief. I keep a little extra, easily accessed but not in plain sight, for those moments when you need a bit more. After round one, like a minute's inattention was all it took for her to snatch it and bolt.
I really don't understand why chicks do that; they can get [B]so[/B] much more if they just take their allowance every week like a good girl.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys, let me introduce you to this princess. She tried to start talking about ppm on this site but I never do that. Moved to Text where she informed me that she does not meet for less than $1,000 ppm. Yes you heard it. That certainly is the record times two LOL. I was tempted to send back some colorful response but resisted the urge. The last thing I need is her doing some kind of negative report and risk a possible ban. In these types of situations I have learned to LMAO and quietly walk away. I thought you would get a kick out of this one! So the search continues.
Runner.
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[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5626409]I posted about here a little while back. We messaged back and forth, but got no where. I got some pm's that she has a bf or handler who may be up to good so I stop pursuing.[/QUOTE]Thanks brother. I'll move on. But damn it's hard to pass up that body.
[QUOTE=PokerShark11;5625524]Any info:
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[/QUOTE]I went back and forth with her for a bit. She switched numbers a couple of times but I think I finally got her real number because it was searchable and came back with data that led to a real identity. She seems pretty nice but into a lot of different thing and very busy. My opinion is that she is as much of an amateur as I am at this. I got distracted by some other things but will try to set up a meeting soon. I got the impression that she was willing to do a meet and greet without payment to sort things out.
[QUOTE=ReadyToTumble;5620199]No intel but I have had girls come on strong with the dirty talk and were for real and other ghost me. Play it out.
By any chance did she say " Phone Home Elliot" . LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes so I let it play out and met up with her. I'm sure every guy on this board has had the experience of the girl not meeting your expectations that I did. She only has the one picture and the additional that she sent was taken from the same angle. So a lot thinker than I usually like but she was really nice and easy to talk to over dinner. One thing led to another and I ended up back at her place. Nice and really into things but not my type. She's looking for a more routine thing so I guess she threw me a freebie. I sent her a message later that something long term with her probably wasn't for me and there was no blow back. I think had sensed it already. Anyway if you like her and meet her, If you want the long term thing with someone pretty laid back, she's the one for you!
[QUOTE=Mythbuster;5634868]Yes so I let it play out and met up with her. I'm sure every guy on this board has had the experience of the girl not meeting your expectations that I did. She only has the one picture and the additional that she sent was taken from the same angle. So a lot thinker than I usually like but she was really nice and easy to talk to over dinner. One thing led to another and I ended up back at her place. Nice and really into things but not my type. She's looking for a more routine thing so I guess she threw me a freebie. I sent her a message later that something long term with her probably wasn't for me and there was no blow back. I think had sensed it already. Anyway if you like her and meet her, If you want the long term thing with someone pretty laid back, she's the one for you![/QUOTE]Not sure if she "threw you a freebie"? Prolly more like she was chill about the $ aspect and didn't want things to be transactional. Proper etiquette would suggest you left her an envelop with a "gift" on her night stand. She sounds kinda passive, but perhaps is seething that she didn't get any sugar.
ALWAYS ask about the sugar and define the situation up front! Don't assume anything. Don't cheat these girls.
Have heard many stories like yours from girls. They were circumspect about the sugar part, but definitely wanted it yet the dude stiffed them. So it makes girls jaded going forward and many drop out. Also most girls ARE looking for a repeat situation and they all tell about guys who promise that and then ghost after first date. Another way girls are made to feel like a prostitute that turns them off. While it IS prostitution, what makes it palatable to many is the illusion of "gifts" or "help" or sugar and not pay to play. So I try to find that balance and feed the girls psyche as she needs.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5635306]Not sure if she "threw you a freebie"? Prolly more like she was chill about the $ aspect and didn't want things to be transactional. Proper etiquette would suggest you left her an envelop with a "gift" on her night stand. She sounds kinda passive, but perhaps is seething that she didn't get any sugar.
ALWAYS ask about the sugar and define the situation up front! Don't assume anything. Don't cheat these girls.
Have heard many stories like yours from girls. They were circumspect about the sugar part, but definitely wanted it yet the dude stiffed them. So it makes girls jaded going forward and many drop out. Also most girls ARE looking for a repeat situation and they all tell about guys who promise that and then ghost after first date. Another way girls are made to feel like a prostitute that turns them off. While it IS prostitution, what makes it palatable to many is the illusion of "gifts" or "help" or sugar and not pay to play. So I try to find that balance and feed the girls psyche as she needs.[/QUOTE]Good Points, I do know where she lives and tis the season. So maybe I'll try to drop something off for her. I said maybe a freebie because I did spend about $ on dinner and drinks for her.
I'd say relatively new at this but I had a great arrangement about 10 years ago that last 2-3 years. We still keep in touch today even though she moved out of state 6 or 7 years ago. She has even come over to the house in the last couple of years and sends me holiday cards. But in that arrangement, I had met her and another girl at a private party were things were pretty spelled out. I made an arrangement with girl 1 who was shrewd negotiator but provided almost no value, so a rip off. Girl 2 who was better looking but more innocent gave me her number one night when I gave her a ride home, met up with me once and decided she wanted in. All she asked was that I pay her the same and look at her the same way I looked at Girl 1. Girl 1 got quickly dropped and Girl 2 was a star! The kind of woman that gets stopped on the streets of center city Philadelphia and asked about how she looks so good. Anyway how do you guys do it? When I start off I always feel like I offer too much. I guess I could do the "How much do you usually get" and then negotiate down when I get a ridiculous number.
[QUOTE=Mythbuster;5636840]I'd say relatively new at this but I had a great arrangement about 10 years ago that last 2-3 years. We still keep in touch today even though she moved out of state 6 or 7 years ago. She has even come over to the house in the last couple of years and sends me holiday cards. But in that arrangement, I had met her and another girl at a private party were things were pretty spelled out. I made an arrangement with girl 1 who was shrewd negotiator but provided almost no value, so a rip off. Girl 2 who was better looking but more innocent gave me her number one night when I gave her a ride home, met up with me once and decided she wanted in. All she asked was that I pay her the same and look at her the same way I looked at Girl 1. Girl 1 got quickly dropped and Girl 2 was a star! The kind of woman that gets stopped on the streets of center city Philadelphia and asked about how she looks so good. Anyway how do you guys do it? When I start off I always feel like I offer too much. I guess I could do the "How much do you usually get" and then negotiate down when I get a ridiculous number.[/QUOTE]My first question is "how much have you gotten in the past". Knowing that they will inflate what they really got, my second statement is ALWAYS something to the effect that it's more than I'm able to provide, and try and push her to a monthly amount that is basically 25% less than a weekly or ppm. I thinks it's all about selling to them the consistency and the chance to get to know each other / reduce risk / maintain your own private lives without the strings of a bf / gf relationship. The ones that ask for rediculous amounts I generally blow off. What I'm referring to is the college or younger female that needs consistent help with bills. There is not an exact science to any of this. Good luck.
I always treat the bowl like I buy a new car. There is always the MSRP that we know is never the final price and always too high. There is the invoice price that is a low price but not necessarily the lowest because of dealer hold backs and other incentives. The key for me, I am always 100% prepared to walk away if I don't get what I want and buy another model or go to another dealer. I never give the dealer what I can afford or what I want to offer. You make the first move and you will lose a majority of the time. Just like the car market, inventory is low but there are deals to be had. I am fortunate to have 2 very reliable unicorn SB's that are extremely affordable and solid knockouts. Sometimes I want to test drive a different make and model. It takes work and good negotiation skills to uncover them and also timing. You never know when that 500 accessory goes on sale for 300 because nobody is buying it at the high mark up.
Keep at it Myth. I may have one for you that we talked about last week or so. I am seeing her again this week.
Be Safe.
[QUOTE=WillieZee914;5637018]My first question is "how much have you gotten in the past". Knowing that they will inflate what they really got, my second statement is ALWAYS something to the effect that it's more than I'm able to provide, and try and push her to a monthly amount that is basically 25% less than a weekly or ppm. I thinks it's all about selling to them the consistency and the chance to get to know each other / reduce risk / maintain your own private lives without the strings of a bf / gf relationship. The ones that ask for rediculous amounts I generally blow off. What I'm referring to is the college or younger female that needs consistent help with bills. There is not an exact science to any of this. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
I have had decent success with negotiating once I get there, but I struggle with my first move. How do you cut through the bullshit without scaring them off? Obviously there are some who actively seek ppm (including the high volume ones) and they are easy to talk to. But what about those who are open to it but don't want to admit it right away? I don't have time to pretend to be interested in what they have to say nor is that necessarily effective. FWIW I am relatively young, average looking and only have one pic. Maybe it's one of those factors (and not what I say) that is the problem.
For me, I talk about trust, consistency, and reliability. I never mention ppm or allowance until we are off the site. I let them know I do ppm until we have trust and open communication. Most of these ladies want a steady stream of revenue with someone they can count on week to week. This approach has worked consistently for me. Some ladies refuse ppm, I say good luck and move to the next one, it's that simple. For those that refuse it but might be open to it, I leave it up to them with a hypothetical and say " if you wanted ppm, how much are you thinking?" and then let them know once we establish trust we can move to an allowance. However, the allowance will never come because they will be gone, I will be bored, etc etc.
This approach worked for me with my 2 long term SB's and both are perfectly happy with ppm. I have been with both of them for over 2 years and yes they know about each and yes we have done 3 somes together. Neither have asked for an allowance as we are very consistent seeing each other and because we have trust there are perks for each, gifts, mini vacations, dinners, emergency money etc etc.
Best of luck and Be Safe.
[QUOTE=Krott26;5638070]I have had decent success with negotiating once I get there, but I struggle with my first move. How do you cut through the bullshit without scaring them off? Obviously there are some who actively seek ppm (including the high volume ones) and they are easy to talk to. But what about those who are open to it but don't want to admit it right away? I don't have time to pretend to be interested in what they have to say nor is that necessarily effective. FWIW I am relatively young, average looking and only have one pic. Maybe it's one of those factors (and not what I say) that is the problem.[/QUOTE]
Just in the interest of sharing information. This one told me that she just wanted someone to pay her rent ($1400).
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