Massage Parlor Reports

Stopped by My Dream Spa in Altamonte recently. I hadn't been in a while and thought I would see how they are doing. Saw CiCi at the door and was told there is a new girl Tina. I asked for Tina and was introduced to a pleasant enough looking 40 something year old Chinese woman. Paid for the hour and asked for a TS. It was decent. No teasing in the shower but got everything clean. Massage was decent. She used a forearm technique on my back which was very effective. Told to flip and she looked at me and said "what you want? We settled on BJ for $. I asked for bb and she said no, I offered her a little more money but she still declined. I wasn't willing to spend more so we settled on a CBJ. She has a good technique. We had a little time left and I asked her to finish the massage until time was up. She did and I left happy. I wouldn't go too far out of my way to go there but since it is convenient for me I like having them there.

NH.

Only been on the site for a week or so but been wanting to check out these places for sometime. Had a nice dream that I went at opening to WB on a weekday and no one else was there. I asked for Yuki and she greeted me as though we've known each other for years. Paid the house fee of. 8 for 1 fh and held hands back to the room. She shoved her tongue down my throat and I got an instant hard-on. Off to the TS and got a good scrub down of my butthole and little preview HJ of things to come. She shoved my fingers in both her holes. Back in the room and settled the tip of $. 6 and she gave a legit massage of the back that actually felt good before forcing me on my knees to put her tongue up my asshole really deep, god damn that felt nice, while as the same time going back and forth giving a BBBJ. Flipped over for some DT while she stared at me I wanted to nut so bad. I held back and she DFK me while I played with those perfect tits. She's a pretty dirty talker and begged me to give it in her ass, so on went the cover and in it went DS and RCG. Multiple positions in the puss and I just couldn't take any more. Sat on the edge of the bed while she gave an incredible DT for about 10 min till I exploded in her mouth. Cleaned up and laid there with her for another 10 min talking and kissing. She really is a delight. Can't really place her as being a GFE or PSE. If anything maybe GFE+. As leaving she introduced me to another girl that was new and she kissed me and said I could fuck her in the ass next time I come in, but didn't catch her name. I ended up waking up at this point and overslept, great dream.

Another dream I had was that I returned to WB at opening again on a weekday to take up the new girls offer. I was once again greeted by Yuki and she asked if I wanted new girl this time and I said yes. She brought me back to the room and as I waited I heard as least 2 other mongers come in within minutes of me. After a couple minutes of waiting Yuki came back and said she wanted to fuck me again. I was like "uuuuh ok, who am I to argue with. " she immediately jumped on me and started kissing. Same deal. 8 and $. 6 I'll spare most of the details since more or less was the same except for a couple things. She wanted me to DATY but I told her I'm not down for that, which she was Ok. Upon completion, I sat on the edge of the bed with her on her knee giving an intense BBBJ, I JO while she sucked the head and came into her waiting mouth. Never felt so good. Said our goodbyes. Yuki is something quite amazing. If only these weren't dreams; I woke up right after this, was taking a nap at home.

Most recent dream was of Lulu at YOU (U) Massage. Went in the mid AM. Some people have remarked of her looking manly and I get it, but I think perhaps it's just her facial structure. She is a very attractive girl and an incredible body with big bolt on DD's. Perfect size in your hand and mouth. She has a petite body but with a muscular frame and thick calves and legs, which really turns me on. Upon arrival she very hospitable, and gives a soft hug and kiss in the room. I pay the. 8 house fee and everything comes off and off to the TS we go. BTW, this is a much nicer and larger TS than WB. WB is waaaay too small and uncomfortable for my long body. Anyways, we make small chitchat, she is very friendly and gets on my back to lather me up and make sure every inch on me is clean, gets my butthole squeaky clean giving it a couple licks, I flip and then can't keep my hands off her incredible body. She starts to moan and wash my obvious boner as I pull her massive tits out of her top play with them. I try my hardest not to cum and we finally head back to the room. I lay face down and she starts to massage my back and feel her nipples on my back and I just couldn't take it anymore, I ran my hands up her legs and grabbed both cheeks and she jumped behind me. She jumped behind me and forced me FDAU and I've never had a tongue so far up my ass before, Jesus. She continued this in unison with my nuts for a few minutes. Felt amazing. Then she whispered to me that any further will be $. 2 ,grabbed it, then she grabbed my boner and sucked on it on the edge of the bed while titfucking at the same time. She said she wanted me to fuck her face while she laid on the bed. Did that for a few and titfucked her like that as well and she wanted me to cum on her face while between her tits. I was ready to but no way wanting to yet. Slipped the cover on and went in Mish, DS while feeling up that incredible body. She wanted to eat my asshole again, so I laid on my back with my legs up and she went to town while simultaneously sucking my taint, balls and BJ. When I thought she was done, she forcefully flipped my legs back up and kept going at my taint and asshole like a lion devouring an animal it's just killed; I was like god damn this girl's a freaky deak; sat on the edge of the bed and she titfucked me till a knot built up and jerked off into her mouth and face. I was spent, we took and quick shower together to clean up the mess, said our goodbyes and woke up in panic in the middle of the night cause the dream ended. BTW, there was no kissing with her, no DFK or LFK, just small pecks, which I thought was sweet. More so kissing on the cheek and neck. Comparing to Yuki, I didn't get anything like that with her, it was all shoving her tongue down your mouth.

Reading other reviews of Yuki, she seems to be the hot person right now, she seems to be completely into you when you have her time and I had some great dreams with her, she is on the pricey end at $$. 4 total. Is it worth it? Prob not, but everyone has their opinion.

Lulu on the other hand I think is worth it at a total of $$; she is very sweet and seemed a little less fake than Yuki with pleasure. I feel like she's a mix of both GFE and PSE with a naughty and innocent side; not sure if it makes sense.

Overall I think Lulu edges out for me.

Cheers.

It is time we take back the Thunderdome (Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome). As the Master Blaster said to Aunty Entity (Tina Turner): Embargo On. I am going to embargo (withhold my visits) to these places.

We need to rise together and stop going to these places until the prices start coming down. We should visit the Tier 2 places (Spa Serenity, Asian Flowers, etc.) and independents until prices become reasonable again.

I will start the resistance movement, but we all need to be in this together. Now who is with me on this?

Painting of peasants storming the Bastille attached.

Be safe.

Going to keep this short since we all know the deal. New girl at GG name is Seven, cute, short and petite and a great time. She is a pleasure to be with, gives a fantastic BBBJ, and went through many positions. Ya'll should check her out before she leaves.

[QUOTE=Gentleman100;3914713]It is time we take back the Thunderdome (Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome). As the Master Blaster said to Aunty Entity (Tina Turner): Embargo On. I am going to embargo (withhold my visits) to these places.

We need to rise together and stop going to these places until the prices start coming down. We should visit the Tier 2 places (Spa Serenity, Asian Flowers, etc.) and independents until prices become reasonable again.

I will start the resistance movement, but we all need to be in this together. Now who is with me on this?

Painting of peasants storming the Bastille attached.

Be safe.[/QUOTE]I completely agree. No more getting ripped off.

No more big 4 for a while. Problem is that we mongers on this site accounts for maybe 20 percent of their clientele and won't do much. But 20 percent is better than nothing. I'm on the bandwagon if everyone is. Don't you guys get bored of the same talent. It's all mechanical, go elsewhere and treasures may be found.

[QUOTE=Gentleman100;3914713]It is time we take back the Thunderdome (Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome). As the Master Blaster said to Aunty Entity (Tina Turner): Embargo On. I am going to embargo (withhold my visits) to these places.

We need to rise together and stop going to these places until the prices start coming down. We should visit the Tier 2 places (Spa Serenity, Asian Flowers, etc.) and independents until prices become reasonable again.

I will start the resistance movement, but we all need to be in this together. Now who is with me on this?

Painting of peasants storming the Bastille attached.

Be safe.[/QUOTE]We do! I am all for paying a fair $ but this is getting out of hand. Many fine full service independents out there that offer a better deal IMO.

[QUOTE=WllWankForFood;3914854]We do! I am all for paying a fair $ but this is getting out of hand. Many fine full service independents out there that offer a better deal IMO.[/QUOTE]I guess tipping varies around the country, but in the Baltimore, my home base, I tip 100 for BBBJ and CFS. It's a bit higher as you get down towards DC. But someone posted on one of the Florida pages that he HAD TO tip 100 just to get a CBJ. That sucks, so to speak--it's 60 back home. And I think the overall cost of living is higher in Maryland than in Florida.

[QUOTE=LawChase;3913794]If you read that buddy's post again, yuki said $. 60 which is the tip, not $$. 60. They don't collect the house fee and the tip at the same time like BO does. $. 60 is normal for a fun hour unless you want to go to the island for another. 20.[/QUOTE]Yes that's what I've been getting. Great three hole choices same great price. And Rainbow OMG. Smoking cute beautiful eyes and boobies. I am hooked. LOL.

[QUOTE=Gentleman100;3914713]We need to rise together and stop going to these places until the prices start coming down. We should visit the Tier 2 places (Spa Serenity, Asian Flowers, etc.) and independents until prices become reasonable again.

I will start the resistance movement, but we all need to be in this together. Now who is with me on this?[/QUOTE]One of the reasons the top tier places are popular is because of the many positive reviews. If people start posting more about the tier 2 places, their prices, services, and locations then the top tier places will be less overloaded. Perhaps the prices will go down, perhaps not.

The flip side of the coin is the quality could go down. The girls are not local, they will go wherever they can make the most money. If, for example, a hottie at BO now makes $1,000 per day, but that drops down to $700 per day, she is likely to reconsider if her next assignment will be in Orlando or perhaps another city.

Keep in mind that few cities offer the quality found in Orlando. Things like BBBJ, DFK, and sexy encounters with the other girls is an oddity in other US locations. I certainly can't find it consistently in Baltimore or Washington, DC. Prices in Greenbelt (an AMP loaded DC suburb) are almost as high as Orlando and the services are much less than Orlando.

[QUOTE=Horsetrader;3914940]One of the reasons the top tier places are popular is because of the many positive reviews. If people start posting more about the tier 2 places, their prices, services, and locations then the top tier places will be less overloaded. Perhaps the prices will go down, perhaps not.

The flip side of the coin is the quality could go down. The girls are not local, they will go wherever they can make the most money. If, for example, a hottie at BO now makes $1,000 per day, but that drops down to $700 per day, she is likely to reconsider if her next assignment will be in Orlando or perhaps another city.

Keep in mind that few cities offer the quality found in Orlando. Things like BBBJ, DFK, and sexy encounters with the other girls is an oddity in other US locations. I certainly can't find it consistently in Baltimore or Washington, DC. Prices in Greenbelt (an AMP loaded DC suburb) are almost as high as Orlando and the services are much less than Orlando.[/QUOTE]My top tier places are you Massage and YaYa. They don't clock watch and enjoy the adventures just as much as the client. HH. 60 + 1.00 FS CIMBBBJ and more. Hopefully, we can start topics on similar talent and reasonable priced. 1.60 is not bad for the experience you can get via escort services. Many of the girls are bare min 7/10+.

Happy hunting and enjoy.

GG and BO are over priced by at least. 60 compared to the above.

I know this may not go over well, but I think it must be said. The experiences to be had here in Orlando are on par with some of the best around the country. Having been to a number of places were these activities are popular, I feel that the prices here reflect market value. Consider all of the services available and The quality of the providers here. In very few places are these things even available, and when they are available the price is usually well in excess of what we pay here. There are a few places where a better deal maybe found (Hawaii), But they are few and far between.

My initial years in the hobby were spent largely with upper level escorts. When their prices began to rise to around 6 to 700, I simply exited that scene. I realize that for many that does not seem to be an attractive option, but if you do not have the funds you cannot expect the service. Simply, don't go where you cannot afford to. Myself and many, many others are obviously comfortable with the prices. I will continue to pay what I consider a reasonable fee.

Seriously, read the reports of msog, CIM, BBBJ, Greek trips, etc. If you can find all that and more with a 9/10 provider for 200, go there.

Another point, very real, a lot of what is posted here is grandstanding or directly false to influence traffic to or from a certain place. At least one report on this very page is absolutely false, and I know so with certainty. I won't call it out, but I encourage others to think about this perspective.

Again, I'm not really "arguing," but I will say that some of us do believe this prices are fair, and are obviously willing to pay. This discussion has been repeated over the years and prices have yet to decrease, so we'll see how far this goes.

[QUOTE=Kellner42;3915444]I know this may not go over well, but I think it must be said. The experiences to be had here in Orlando are on par with some of the best around the country. Having been to a number of places were these activities are popular, I feel that the prices here reflect market value. Consider all of the services available and The quality of the providers here. In very few places are these things even available, and when they are available the price is usually well in excess of what we pay here. There are a few places where a better deal maybe found (Hawaii), But they are few and far between.

My initial years in the hobby were spent largely with upper level escorts. When their prices began to rise to around 6 to 700, I simply exited that scene. I realize that for many that does not seem to be an attractive option, but if you do not have the funds you cannot expect the service. Simply, don't go where you cannot afford to. Myself and many, many others are obviously comfortable with the prices. I will continue to pay what I consider a reasonable fee.

Seriously, read the reports of msog, CIM, BBBJ, Greek trips, etc. If you can find all that and more with a 9/10 provider for 200, go there.

Another point, very real, a lot of what is posted here is grandstanding or directly false to influence traffic to or from a certain place. At least one report on this very page is absolutely false, and I know so with certainty. I won't call it out, but I encourage others to think about this perspective.

Again, I'm not really "arguing," but I will say that some of us do believe this prices are fair, and are obviously willing to pay. This discussion has been repeated over the years and prices have yet to decrease, so we'll see how far this goes.[/QUOTE]Certainly I agree Orlando is better than average. There are way better areas for quality, and I've yet to see any AMP's with 9's. BO and CB had decent chicks but 9 would be grading on an Orlando scale not an every Asian in the world scale. Chicago, Dallas, and I'm told Miami blow away Orlando. Everyone will always complain about prices, I do sometimes. I don't find $200 too high, seems pretty par for the course. But in general I agree with you.

+1.

Agree the dream combo of pse W / gorgeous model-types, makes for value at top end; still plenty of room for middle of the pack options (both in looks and services at the lower price point), but for those who are restricted by time or distance, the upper echelon in Otown seems worth the coin, IMHO. Dream on, dream weaver. No disrespect to team embargo!

[QUOTE=Kellner42;3915444]I know this may not go over well, but I think it must be said. The experiences to be had here in Orlando are on par with some of the best around the country. Having been to a number of places were these activities are popular, I feel that the prices here reflect market value. Consider all of the services available and The quality of the providers here. In very few places are these things even available, and when they are available the price is usually well in excess of what we pay here. There are a few places where a better deal maybe found (Hawaii), But they are few and far between.

My initial years in the hobby were spent largely with upper level escorts. When their prices began to rise to around 6 to 700, I simply exited that scene. I realize that for many that does not seem to be an attractive option, but if you do not have the funds you cannot expect the service. Simply, don't go where you cannot afford to. Myself and many, many others are obviously comfortable with the prices. I will continue to pay what I consider a reasonable fee.

Seriously, read the reports of msog, CIM, BBBJ, Greek trips, etc. If you can find all that and more with a 9/10 provider for 200, go there.

Another point, very real, a lot of what is posted here is grandstanding or directly false to influence traffic to or from a certain place. At least one report on this very page is absolutely false, and I know so with certainty. I won't call it out, but I encourage others to think about this perspective.

Again, I'm not really "arguing," but I will say that some of us do believe this prices are fair, and are obviously willing to pay. This discussion has been repeated over the years and prices have yet to decrease, so we'll see how far this goes.[/QUOTE]

I agree with You Massage being Top Tier, at least with my experience $$. Total for 1 fh, and nothing was rushed or mechanical; Lulu on top of the game.

[QUOTE=Kellner42;3915444]I know this may not go over well, but I think it must be said. The experiences to be had here in Orlando are on par with some of the best around the country. Having been to a number of places were these activities are popular, I feel that the prices here reflect market value. Consider all of the services available and The quality of the providers here. In very few places are these things even available, and when they are available the price is usually well in excess of what we pay here. There are a few places where a better deal maybe found (Hawaii), But they are few and far between.

My initial years in the hobby were spent largely with upper level escorts. When their prices began to rise to around 6 to 700, I simply exited that scene. I realize that for many that does not seem to be an attractive option, but if you do not have the funds you cannot expect the service. Simply, don't go where you cannot afford to. Myself and many, many others are obviously comfortable with the prices. I will continue to pay what I consider a reasonable fee.

Seriously, read the reports of msog, CIM, BBBJ, Greek trips, etc. If you can find all that and more with a 9/10 provider for 200, go there.

Another point, very real, a lot of what is posted here is grandstanding or directly false to influence traffic to or from a certain place. At least one report on this very page is absolutely false, and I know so with certainty. I won't call it out, but I encourage others to think about this perspective.

Again, I'm not really "arguing," but I will say that some of us do believe this prices are fair, and are obviously willing to pay. This discussion has been repeated over the years and prices have yet to decrease, so we'll see how far this goes.[/QUOTE]This is reasonable post with a different opinion. My big problem is that these places are making huge profits and not providing customized service. The unit cost per customer probably ranges around $10 (the amount of water, electricity, and other consumables that each customer uses + misc. Costs). There might be other, minor costs, but the rest is profit. They are run like a Walmart but charge Bloomingdale prices. I will continue to go to 2nd Tier / Independents until I hear the Big 4 prices have stabilized.

Embargo On!

[QUOTE=Gentleman100;3915588]This is reasonable post with a different opinion. My big problem is that these places are making huge profits and not providing customized service. The unit cost per customer probably ranges around $10 (the amount of water, electricity, and other consumables that each customer uses + misc. Costs). There might be other, minor costs, but the rest is profit. They are run like a Walmart but charge Bloomingdale prices. I will continue to go to 2nd Tier / Independents until I hear the Big 4 prices have stabilized.

Embargo On![/QUOTE]I agree with your Overpriced for the service delivered but. In your analysis you left out building cost (rent, security cams, towels, gels / soaps and shite), MM & cleaning lady cost, procurement cost (someone is running the "contact Ring" Job risk cost (bail $, lawyer. They all get busted sooner or later). I don't disagree they are reaping huge profit for the work performed. I always wonder why they aren't robbed more often. 200 or 240 X?? 50 to 100 dudes a day. Lots of cash on hand.

Take a trip to the Negative Escort Report forum. Sitting in a parking lot for NOCOM, Cash and dash, bait and switch. All events recently posted. AMPs are point and shoot. You know what you're getting, just don't know the girl. For 240 an hour, take charge. Don't want a TS or want it at the end? Say so or walk. Stand up or Walk Away. Give credit to Snow at BO. I had an issue after purchase and she handed me my donation and wished me a good night. I've never had that happen in any other SW venue, independent or biz.

I'll give "you" Spa a try Friday. 200 or walk. It's worth a try.

HL54.

I'm not an Orlando local, I travel a lot due to work.

Literally the only other places I've ever gotten the amount of care you guys get in Orlando have been Dallas, which was cheaper by something like 20 bucks, and New York, which was more expensive.

And you guys want to boycott this?! You guys are crazy.

[QUOTE=MisterTwinkies;3916202]I'm not an Orlando local, I travel a lot due to work.

Literally the only other places I've ever gotten the amount of care you guys get in Orlando have been Dallas, which was cheaper by something like 20 bucks, and New York, which was more expensive.

And you guys want to boycott this?! You guys are crazy.[/QUOTE]I travel to new York to Seattle to san jose pretty much all over the US and Veracruz, Mexico to katsuta, Japan. 120 to 140 is the norm. Heck in Vildosta, GA (middle of fucking no where) was 130. Japan was 140 and they don't take tips. Its because mongers hit the same location not knowing or wanting to see if other places are around in Orlando. This is a small ratio of mongers on this site. But look at the reviews. Its about BO or GG 90%. If you go to the same places and pay that rate you can not say anything but Thank You mamasan ill be back tomorrow. Negotiation is key and don't be afraid to walk out. .

[QUOTE=WebbedFingers;3904443]Oh, thanks! Had great 'Tina-Time' at Magic, & I'm very happy to hear where she's gone to. I'll have to check out the new place & make friends with Jeanie, too. Don't think I've met her anywhere else before.

Again, thanks for the update on the new digs![/QUOTE]I've had two great sessions with Tina at the new location in Longwood. She gives one of the best massages around (almost as good as Lily Gold!) with standard Magic / Island services and pricing.

What I cannot understand is that both times we had the place to ourselves and Tina complained that they weren't getting much business at this new location. But at the same time she told me not to post anything or to tell anyone!

So I am reluctantly breaking my silence to let you guys know that this new location is bigger, cleaner, and has the nicest TS shower room I've ever seen. Good location, discrete parking in the back, and Magic services without dealing with Rte 436 traffic and exposure. Check it out, but don't tell Tina you saw this post or she will punish me for breaking my promise. I love the new location and I want Tina to be a success and remain there!

[QUOTE=Laymedown1;3915207]My top tier places are you Massage and YaYa. They don't clock watch and enjoy the adventures just as much as the client. HH. 60 + 1.00 FS CIMBBBJ and more. Hopefully, we can start topics on similar talent and reasonable priced. 1.60 is not bad for the experience you can get via escort services. Many of the girls are bare min 7/10+.

Happy hunting and enjoy.

GG and BO are over priced by at least. 60 compared to the above.[/QUOTE]Exactly. What I am trying to point out.

[QUOTE=Jokester1;3914867]I guess tipping varies around the country, but in the Baltimore, my home base, I tip 100 for BBBJ and CFS. It's a bit higher as you get down towards DC. But someone posted on one of the Florida pages that he HAD TO tip 100 just to get a CBJ. That sucks, so to speak--it's 60 back home. And I think the overall cost of living is higher in Maryland than in Florida.[/QUOTE]No he let the little head think. Been there done that.

[QUOTE=BuckNastee;3916244]I travel to new York to Seattle to san jose pretty much all over the US and Veracruz, Mexico to katsuta, Japan. 120 to 140 is the norm. Heck in Vildosta, GA (middle of fucking no where) was 130. Japan was 140 and they don't take tips. Its because mongers hit the same location not knowing or wanting to see if other places are around in Orlando. This is a small ratio of mongers on this site. But look at the reviews. Its about BO or GG 90%. If you go to the same places and pay that rate you can not say anything but Thank You mamasan ill be back tomorrow. Negotiation is key and don't be afraid to walk out. .[/QUOTE]Comparing completely different markets and countries to central Florida doesn't really justify the prices you mention. They have completely different risk profiles And provider availabilities. Did you really get the same quality of service and provider in Valdosta?

With respect, if I don't feel the price warrants negotiation, I will not negotiate. If anything, I end up with better service. Whatever Effects that may have on local prices, it has. I'm not participating in the hobby to help others afford it.

I've been to NY and Cali, spending several months in so cal and I can say their prices were equal to ours for equivalent services, in my experience.

[QUOTE=Kellner42;3916259]Comparing completely different markets and countries to central Florida doesn't really justify the prices you mention. They have completely different risk profiles And provider availabilities. Did you really get the same quality of service and provider in Valdosta?

With respect, if I don't feel the price warrants negotiation, I will not negotiate. If anything, I end up with better service. Whatever Effects that may have on local prices, it has. I'm not participating in the hobby to help others afford it.

I've been to NY and Cali, spending several months in so cal and I can say their prices were equal to ours for equivalent services, in my experience.[/QUOTE]I should have implied that those prices are also here in Orlando. My statement did not corollate to my implication of mongers indulge at the same location repetitively to the point of inflated prices these parlors demand. So I just did compare the market of all the locations to show that prices can be this low. If mongers indulge in one particular location and the price is well out of the norm of markets and countries then its the location that will price the market. And yes the quality and service was the same in Valdosta, Wilkes-Barre, Macon, King of Prussia, Toms River etc. What I am implying is you should negotiate the price and not let them dictate the price. BO already is demanding you to pay 200 at the door, with no negotiation. With that I am done suggesting or implying what you as an adult should do with his money.

Now the douche bag in me is about to say this. You kind sir is the main reason the prices are what they are. I will not reply to anything you say after this statement for the forums rules will be enforced if I type any more.

Besides the high prices of the Big 4, there is one, very disturbing cautionary tale to discuss. There is a very high probabilty that the Big 4 (one or all) will be raided and shut down, and capture some of my brothers here while visiting for a little stress relief. I even read an article in Seattle, where Uncle LEO, after closing down a place, re-opened it with a new name for the sole purpose of catching customers in the act (and they arrested 155 customers).

Uncle LEO will not focus on 2nd tier locations, independents nor UTR providers. They want the biggest bang for the buck. They will go to a busy place, let's say a place that has a GEICO office next door (I envision the manager of that office is Alice Kravitz, of Bewitched: nosy neighbor), invite the news media, and with cameras rolling, break into the place and arrest everyone there. Now, this is not a conviction, but an arrest. Do you want your face on TV being arrested? I do not. And good luck telling those who saw you on TV that you are innocent.

The owners of the Big 4 do not care about us, they want to make their fast cash, and when the going gets tough, they will move on to another area. They are true carpet baggers.

Now, of course, some who post here, will still not believe this will happen. They will be like sheep not recognizing the wolf nearby. I am your sheep dog (more like an Anatolian Shepherd), here to protect my friends here. If given an option, don't take the red pill (stay in Wonderland), take the blue pill, and wake up to reality (The Matrix reference).

Be safe everyone.

Seattle Times (2016): [URL]https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/seattle-pd-arrests-155-men-in-massage-parlor-sting-operation/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Gentleman100;3916750]Besides the high prices of the Big 4, there is one, very disturbing cautionary tale to discuss. There is a very high probabilty that the Big 4 (one or all) will be raided and shut down, and capture some of my brothers here while visiting for a little stress relief. I even read an article in Seattle, where Uncle LEO, after closing down a place, re-opened it with a new name for the sole purpose of catching customers in the act (and they arrested 155 customers).

Uncle LEO will not focus on 2nd tier locations, independents nor UTR providers. They want the biggest bang for the buck. They will go to a busy place, let's say a place that has a GEICO office next door (I envision the manager of that office is Alice Kravitz, of Bewitched: nosy neighbor), invite the news media, and with cameras rolling, break into the place and arrest everyone there. Now, this is not a conviction, but an arrest. Do you want your face on TV being arrested? I do not. And good luck telling those who saw you on TV that you are innocent.

The owners of the Big 4 do not care about us, they want to make their fast cash, and when the going gets tough, they will move on to another area. They are true carpet baggers.

Now, of course, some who post here, will still not believe this will happen. They will be like sheep not recognizing the wolf nearby. I am your sheep dog (more like an Anatolian Shepherd), here to protect my friends here. If given an option, don't take the red pill (stay in Wonderland), take the blue pill, and wake up to reality (The Matrix reference).

Be safe everyone.

Seattle Times (2016): [URL]https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/seattle-pd-arrests-155-men-in-massage-parlor-sting-operation/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Dude. There's a risk anywhere you stick your dick. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, Husband, heroin / candy used by any or all of the above, Guns, Knifes, mad dog in the house, car wreck in an area you find hard to explain to anyone, Syph, Clap, herpes, hiv and Yes, The Man Kickin' the Door Down with TV Cams in your Face. Film at Eleven.

Be as Safe as your Little Head lets you be. But an AMP Raid isn't high on my list of worries. Is there risk involved with AMPs, yes. All of them. Not just the Big 4. Eliminate all risk and stay home Jacking to on-line Porn with Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters.

Lame excuse to "visit" only the second tier AMPs. Stick with driving down pricing with a boycott. Much more believable. Hopefully, Luck (y) will be with me tomorrow 5 pm at You. LEO is welcome to Cum film my handy. Duh, not going to happen. LEO gots to keep the Parks safe for the Kiddies. Bigger fish to fry then an AMP Bust.

Woof Woof.

HL54.

[QUOTE=Gentleman100;3916750]Besides the high prices of the Big 4, there is one, very disturbing cautionary tale to discuss. There is a very high probabilty that the Big 4 (one or all) will be raided and shut down, and capture some of my brothers here while visiting for a little stress relief. I even read an article in Seattle, where Uncle LEO, after closing down a place, re-opened it with a new name for the sole purpose of catching customers in the act (and they arrested 155 customers).

Uncle LEO will not focus on 2nd tier locations, independents nor UTR providers. They want the biggest bang for the buck. They will go to a busy place, let's say a place that has a GEICO office next door (I envision the manager of that office is Alice Kravitz, of Bewitched: nosy neighbor), invite the news media, and with cameras rolling, break into the place and arrest everyone there. Now, this is not a conviction, but an arrest. Do you want your face on TV being arrested? I do not. And good luck telling those who saw you on TV that you are innocent.

The owners of the Big 4 do not care about us, they want to make their fast cash, and when the going gets tough, they will move on to another area. They are true carpet baggers.

Now, of course, some who post here, will still not believe this will happen. They will be like sheep not recognizing the wolf nearby. I am your sheep dog (more like an Anatolian Shepherd), here to protect my friends here. If given an option, don't take the red pill (stay in Wonderland), take the blue pill, and wake up to reality (The Matrix reference).

Be safe everyone.

Seattle Times (2016): [URL]https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/seattle-pd-arrests-155-men-in-massage-parlor-sting-operation/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Especially around the holidays and bowl season. Very high chance of high profile busts to show that they are cleaning up the town.

What does WB stand for? Would like to see Yuki.

Searching the web, I found a more recent article about a 7 Stars spa in Houston (October 2017). After raiding it, HPD set up a fake AMP and arrested 139 customers (including an off-duty HPD officer).

I am telling you, be careful about going to the Big 4. They are danger close (field artillery reference).

I am done with my preaching on this.

Be safe out there.

[URL]https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Police-arrest-139-at-bogus-brothel-12310203.php[/URL]

Great "Risk List" HL. I especially enjoyed car wreck in a sketchy area. A very legitimate risk! Very entertaining post.

[QUOTE=HotLuck54;3916789]Dude. There's a risk anywhere you stick your dick. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, Husband, heroin / candy used by any or all of the above, Guns, Knifes, mad dog in the house, car wreck in an area you find hard to explain to anyone, Syph, Clap, herpes, hiv and Yes, The Man Kickin' the Door Down with TV Cams in your Face. Film at Eleven.

Be as Safe as your Little Head lets you be. But an AMP Raid isn't high on my list of worries. Is there risk involved with AMPs, yes. All of them. Not just the Big 4. Eliminate all risk and stay home Jacking to on-line Porn with Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters.

Lame excuse to "visit" only the second tier AMPs. Stick with driving down pricing with a boycott. Much more believable. Hopefully, Luck (y) will be with me tomorrow 5 pm at You. LEO is welcome to Cum film my handy. Duh, not going to happen. LEO gots to keep the Parks safe for the Kiddies. Bigger fish to fry then an AMP Bust.

Woof Woof.

HL54.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotLuck54;3916789]Dude. There's a risk anywhere you stick your dick. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, Husband, heroin / candy used by any or all of the above, Guns, Knifes, mad dog in the house, car wreck in an area you find hard to explain to anyone, Syph, Clap, herpes, hiv and Yes, The Man Kickin' the Door Down with TV Cams in your Face. Film at Eleven.

Be as Safe as your Little Head lets you be. But an AMP Raid isn't high on my list of worries. Is there risk involved with AMPs, yes. All of them. Not just the Big 4. Eliminate all risk and stay home Jacking to on-line Porn with Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters.

Lame excuse to "visit" only the second tier AMPs. Stick with driving down pricing with a boycott. Much more believable. Hopefully, Luck (y) will be with me tomorrow 5 pm at You. LEO is welcome to Cum film my handy. Duh, not going to happen. LEO gots to keep the Parks safe for the Kiddies. Bigger fish to fry then an AMP Bust.

Woof Woof.

HL54.[/QUOTE]Or, as former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister of Iraq, Tariq Aziz, said to journalists: "There are no American tanks in Baghdad". Or, as Golda Meir, former Prime Minister of Israel, refused to believe that Egypt and Syria were strong enough to attack on October 6, 1973.

History is full of examples of willful ignorance. Have a pleasant day.

[QUOTE=Flyforfun;3916905]What does WB stand for? Would like to see Yuki.[/QUOTE]WB stands for Well Body Spa.

[QUOTE=Flyforfun;3916905]What does WB stand for? Would like to see Yuki.[/QUOTE]Stands for Well Body Spa. Simple Google search will give you what you want. You will enjoy it, I am sure. Yuki has been well-reviewed here. BTW: "Yuki" is Japanese for "snow". This place is part of the embargo (trying to reduce prices). I would suggest a Tier 2 place instead. However, to each his own.

Be safe.

Despite having indulged in the pleasures of our hobby for many years both here and abroad I had never until recently had any significant negative experiences.

This all changed when earlier this year I noticed some small white spots on the head of my penis.

Long story short these were HPV warts and the results of BBBJ at GG. How do I know this for sure. Well despite using OB where the girls use covers this is the only service where I have indulged in uncovered sex.

The spots developed into small mushroom like growths which have resulted in laser surgery. I had a session a month ago and have another shortly. The surgery cost c $1000 per shot.

Now it may be that I was particularly open to these infections and others may be able to indulge with no consequences, but please be aware that this is entirely possible. S.

Ping me if you require more info.

Stay safe RJ.

Was in need of a massage and was close to Aloma, so decided to hit Yaya. Drew Candy.

Asked shower and said yes. She took my hand and while leading me to the shower placed it on har ass, no panties and giggled.

Washed all and played with the boys. Back to the room, I requested a hard massage as I was tired. She complied for about 20 minutes then climbed on top and started rubbing her nipples on my back. She said just lay there and enjoy, so I did. She then asked me to flip and stated I want you to fuckme. I said ok. She then asked for $. 60, I laughed. I told her all I have is $.

She said no, CBJ is $. 2. I said ok massage only. She said ok and started massaging my legs and feet but worked her way back up to the boys. I then said ok, time to go and got off the bed. Took up my underwear. She then grabbed me and said this time only okay, next time bring more. I gave her the $ and she left to get a cover. I requested cowgirl which she complied with. She was tight. Then I flipped her to doggie and worked that pussy. She got red in the face. Finished, she cleaned me up and said come back soon and bring more money. Total $. 60 for h.

Total for haws $. 80 , . 80 massage and $ tip.

I've been reading up here about You (U-Massage) because I have one more opportunity soon for some therapeutic pleasure. Lulu sounds like a great provider. Any suggestions you have for my first visit there would be welcomed. I was a little confused reading some posts about what an appropriate gratuity would be and how to arrive at that. Any other thoughts would be appreciated as well.

Thanks.

-AG.

[QUOTE=DieterBraun;3916924]Great "Risk List" HL. I especially enjoyed car wreck in a sketchy area. A very legitimate risk! Very entertaining post.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I didn't mean it as a slam or Dis. Just not logical to think that on any given day one of the big 4 is more likely to get hit than any other. I agree with the Geico Insurance Witch bringing more attention to BO. However, over the years in many cities (search local newspapers), location (next to a school, I. E. CB) or the County Sheriff election cycle have more to do with Spa raids then any bitchy neighbor. Unless the bitchy neighbor is the sheriffs wife.

Of the 4 mentioned, I visited 3. WB, GG, BO. I can understand BO demanding Filet Mignon pricing. More young heifers to ride. GG has the fetish, PSE market. I don't get WB, though my sample data is just 1 visit. Maybe do to location South of O-Town? Time to Target does have value.

HL54.

[QUOTE=AreaGentleman;3917336]I've been reading up here about You (U-Massage) because I have one more opportunity soon for some therapeutic pleasure. Lulu sounds like a great provider. Any suggestions you have for my first visit there would be welcomed. I was a little confused reading some posts about what an appropriate gratuity would be and how to arrive at that. Any other thoughts would be appreciated as well.

Thanks.

-AG.[/QUOTE]By posts, You seems to be a YMMV based on your negotiating skills.

[QUOTE=AreaGentleman;3917336]I've been reading up here about You (U-Massage) because I have one more opportunity soon for some therapeutic pleasure. Lulu sounds like a great provider. Any suggestions you have for my first visit there would be welcomed. I was a little confused reading some posts about what an appropriate gratuity would be and how to arrive at that. Any other thoughts would be appreciated as well.

Thanks.

-AG.[/QUOTE]They take the standard entrance fee. For the tip, it is the current market rate. The good thing about this place is it is in a nice strip mall with good parking. Plenty of legitimate businesses around it so casual observers do not automatically assume where you are going. The therapist's looks are at about 90% of what BO and GG offer, but the service is good.

A general suggestion for visiting all AMPs: do a quick recon before you go in. Drive around the block or take a U-turn down the road and check for any local constabulary presence or other signs of trouble (I. E. A group of Uncle Leos parked together at the local Target).

Be safe.

[QUOTE=Gentleman100;3916913]Searching the web, I found a more recent article about a 7 Stars spa in Houston (October 2017). After raiding it, HPD set up a fake AMP and arrested 139 customers (including an off-duty HPD officer).

I am telling you, be careful about going to the Big 4. They are danger close (field artillery reference).

I am done with my preaching on this.

Be safe out there.

[URL]https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Police-arrest-139-at-bogus-brothel-12310203.php[/URL][/QUOTE]I have been to Blue Ocean 3 times and I will admit the lack of pretense with this place is a little worrisome. They hide nothing, you walk in there and the only explainable reason is to fuck a hot Asian girl.

There's no 10 minutes of massage then being asked to turn over and then the girl whispers in your ear " what do you want? None of that, you get your dick sucked on the table shower, then it immediately continues in the room. If OPD sends a cop in there, it's over in 5 minutes. Add to the fact that Geico most likely grows more and more weary of their neighbor every day you have to think they have called the authorities asking them to look into that business.

On the other hand, it's still there so what do I know?