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[QUOTE=PaperTiger24;1679081]Went back to there to see what the fuss was with Jenny. Fuck. Shitty. She was pretty good looking but did the massage with the latex gloves. Although I was able to persuade her to take them off towards the end and for the HE I'm not coming back. Rushed the job, complained how long I was taking, and just overall a shitty attitude.[/QUOTE]That's crazy. Latex gloves. Just don't see how that would work for a massage.
[QUOTE=OCPep; 1677168]Good Evening Gents,
I decided to go out on a great MP hunt. Been playing a bit with a non-pro lately but her massage skills suck. She's a youngun so I just got to train her but I digress. Decided I wanted a decent massage so we surfing BP. First try I had been trading emails with one of those ads that tells me to send an email to get info. Don't know why I get suckered in by them. I got the addy on Friday but didn't get heading in that direction until Sat. Well come to find out it's Viet. New Year and they won't be open till 6. It's 2:30 and need to be home by 5 if you know what I mean. Decided to head south / west on LF BLVD till I get close to the red blinking light and then park it. Walk up to the MP and it's closed to 2:30 due to a power outage. Crap, strike 2. Well pop out the ole iphone and start searching again and who appears? A couple cars drive up park and walk towards the MP. I didn't get a good look at the ladies so I wasn't sure if they were other tenants. Maybe they work at the BBQ place? So I wait 15 minutes then head it.[/QUOTE]Can't think of where LF Blvd is, maybe Lake Forest Drive? Even still, no idea what the great blinking red light is.
Could you expand a bit on the location?
[QUOTE=NeedMassaging;1679496]My review was for Star On Rockfield and LF not the shatsui place at Muirlands / LF that Fun Trust reviewed, sorry. Cost was the same, eatery next door and busy shopping center were all the same just 1/2 block over. Now you have two places to try that offer a good, professional massage.[/QUOTE]Liked your report and I had a fave at Star years ago. Would try to drive down all the way from L A when I had the time to steal during the workweek (she didn't work weekends). As I knew it up until maybe 2 years ago, there were no 20 somethings working there and I thought the girls were Chinese, not K-Girls, though my "Chinese" fave lived in K-Town in L. A. And commuted down to LF, so who knows? My fave and I know a couple of others there were way beyond HJ only. I got more than everything there which is what motivated the long drive. She and every other girl I ever eyeballed there were late 30's to early 40's at best. But that was then and this is now and it sounds like its still a good stop regardless of any changes in cast and culture. Looking forward to the opportunity to stop in again and will spread my legs as wide open as I physically can.
[QUOTE=NeedMassaging;1676840]Indeed, it's not what it used to be at all.[/QUOTE]So sad. This was my go to place .20 for full hour private massage. Then 30-40 for HJ with my hands going anywhere on her. I always saw the same girl. Last time I went was told she was on vacation. Got a weird vibe has I saw the setup change and men in the back room by the back entrance compared to all women being in there. Also lady in front pretended to have the cc machines "down"/not working. I left and never returned.
Oh yea I also used to warmup next door at the bar. Used to enjoy other dudes tip the bikini girls and saw free t&a all the time.
[QUOTE=The Camel;1679963]Liked your report and I had a fave at Star years ago. Would try to drive down all the way from L A when I had the time to steal during the workweek (she didn't work weekends). As I knew it up until maybe 2 years ago, there were no 20 somethings working there and I thought the girls were Chinese, not K-Girls, though my "Chinese" fave lived in K-Town in L. A. And commuted down to LF, so who knows? My fave and I know a couple of others there were way beyond HJ only. I got more than everything there which is what motivated the long drive. She and every other girl I ever eyeballed there were late 30's to early 40's at best. But that was then and this is now and it sounds like its still a good stop regardless of any changes in cast and culture. Looking forward to the opportunity to stop in again and will spread my legs as wide open as I physically can.[/QUOTE]As I have been telling guys, if you find a girl and place you like, treat them well and fairly, and good experiences can happen. If you want to work it to weekly or ATF service or GFE, status, choose well and treat them well. So many guys write here about great great service from a girl, and either lowball at 30 or maybe leave 40. Well, if they go above an beyond, you would be amazed what can happen (if you choose the right place and girl) , if you give them 50 or 60; look them in the eye and smile and say thank you for a wonderful time and massage. They have feelings too. And if you follow up in a few days you never know what can happen. As they say, poker is free, but lessons are extra. There are other lessons to maximum your experiences, but you guys can learn on your own. They don't work every time, but when they do its something you will remember.
I have always had good experience at STAR for massage and happy, but never pursued the relationship farther. For unattached guys who have flexible schedules, they are missing many opportunities with these ladies (at many places) if they have a reasonable game, in somewhat shape and under 70. The girls who look 30-35 but are over 40 or more) , well they like to be taken out to dinner occasionally.
Now the reason I post this hints is not that I care about your sex and emotional lives. But if you piss the girl off, and i walk in next she may not give me a good time. Likewise if she has just been treated in her mind fairly, she will be more inclined to make me happy as well. Now some guys are going to write saying if you give them 50 or 60 ( even after a great hour massage, Happy and lots of touchy) your raising the prices for everyone. Well, to them I say I am not concerned about you, but I know if I give them a little more for good and fun service, the next time I come in it pays off, and as I have written here and on the LA forum, it can pay off in spades; particularly if is slow , raining out and the girls are bored. Free lesson, go in on a rainy day.
I've been to this place at least eight times and Have never seen them pull the gloves out. However, If they do it with me, I'll make it clear, there will be no tip what so ever.
[QUOTE=Oc Amper;1679778]That's crazy. Latex gloves. Just don't see how that would work for a massage.[/QUOTE]
I totally concur. I have a regular I'm seeing right now and every time I walk through the door, she is genuinely happy to see me.
It doesn't matter what I do in life, I try to apply the "Golden Rule" in every situation. It's frustrating to read some who post on here the way they treat providers, Like a cheap commodity.
We mustn't lose sight of the fact these gals are human beings first and are doing this stuff not for sexual gratification, (most of the time) , but to survive economically. I've been doing this hobby long enough to have had some personal conversations with these women, to where they've told me horror stories about some whom have basically abused them Physically.
Not to be too preachy here, but if you could put this in the perspective of going out for a special meal somewhere and your server gives you impeccable treatment. You'd do the right thing by tipping accordingly, not leaving a 5% tip and then bragging to your buddies how you screwed the waitress out of her gratuity, even though everything was great.
Right? So you newbies on here, listen to Guys like FunTrust and The Camel for good guidenence. They're the good guys.
Baggens.
[QUOTE=FunTrust; 1680176]As I have been telling guys, if you find a girl and place you like, treat them well and fairly, and good experiences can happen. If you want to work it to weekly or ATF service or GFE, status, choose well and treat them well. So many guys write here about great great service from a girl, and either lowball at 30 or maybe leave 40. Well, if they go above an beyond, you would be amazed what can happen (if you choose the right place and girl) , if you give them 50 or 60; look them in the eye and smile and say thank you for a wonderful time and massage. They have feelings too. And if you follow up in a few days you never know what can happen. As they say, poker is free, but lessons are extra. There are other lessons to maximum your experiences, but you guys can learn on your own. They don't work every time, but when they do its something you will remember.
I have always had good experience at STAR for massage and happy, but never pursued the relationship farther. For unattached guys who have flexible schedules, they are missing many opportunities with these ladies (at many places) if they have a reasonable game, in somewhat shape and under 70. The girls who look 30-35 but are over 40 or more) , well they like to be taken out to dinner occasionally.
Now the reason I post this hints is not that I care about your sex and emotional lives. But if you piss the girl off, and I walk in next she may not give me a good time. Likewise if she has just been treated in her mind fairly, she will be more inclined to make me happy as well. Now some guys are going to write saying if you give them 50 or 60 (even after a great hour massage, Happy and lots of touchy) your raising the prices for everyone. Well, to them I say I am not concerned about you, but I know if I give them a little more for good and fun service, the next time I come in it pays off, and as I have written here and on the LA forum, it can pay off in spades; particularly if is slow, raining out and the girls are bored. Free lesson, go in on a rainy day.[/QUOTE]
Every Christmas for the past three or four years I've given a $100 gift certificate to my four or five best ladies. I always give it to them on the way out so they don't think I'm paying for extra services not provided in the past.
With most ladies future services have really improved. For some it makes no difference. But either way it never hurts to be nice to women working in a difficult profession.
[QUOTE=Oc Amper; 1679785]Can't think of where LF Blvd is, maybe Lake Forest Drive? Even still, no idea what the great blinking red light is.
Could you expand a bit on the location?[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly
[QUOTE=Oc Amper; 1679785]Can't think of where LF Blvd is, maybe Lake Forest Drive? Even still, no idea what the great blinking red light is.
Could you expand a bit on the location?[/QUOTE]I am familiar with the general area but have never noticed a blinking light, would be interested to find out. My Guess is Lake Forest too.
[QUOTE=The Camel;1679963]Liked your report and I had a fave at Star years ago. But that was then and this is now and it sounds like its still a good stop regardless of any changes in cast and culture. Looking forward to the opportunity to stop in again and will spread my legs as wide open as I physically can.[/QUOTE]Thanks,
The girl told me that she did live in Korea Town and she is into getting massages herself on her day off (in Korea Town) , she's single and if I was I would ask her out for sure. When I went in it was slow, and I was asked by the MMS if it was my first time there and I said yes, but not first massage, which I feel is not always a bad thing to say. There were about 3-4 girls working, and when I was shown to my room the MMS went in the back and told the girls there was a customer, and since I was polite and I said it was my first time, I think she went back and selected the youngest girl for me so to increase my chances of returning as a regular, just a hunch.
[QUOTE=Dildo Baggens;1680313]So you newbies on here, listen to Guys like FunTrust and The Camel for good guidenence. They're the good guys[/QUOTE]I'm listening. I'm under 70, free, and in shape. And I would enjoy to take a provider out for dinner. Going to start tipping well for cools service. I already have a nice touch (have been told).
Wagmyducktail
Excellent posts from Funtrust and Mr. Baggens. When I used to go to Heavenly in Westminster I would stop at the market and pick up a bag of fresh fruit. When I came in I'd go into the girl's kitchen area and drop off the fruit. Let them know it was for everyone. Ended up getting an invite to the house where all the girls lived together, for dinner.
We've all had service where the girl is tugging but she is staring at the wall and probably working on a shopping list for dinner. When I get service where the girl is clearly trying to give me a great experience, I tip accordingly.
It's nice to hear of other guys that treat these girls as human beings. I hear too many stories from providers of just the opposite.
[QUOTE=Chogori; 1681450]Excellent posts from Funtrust and Mr. Baggens. When I used to go to Heavenly in Westminster I would stop at the market and pick up a bag of fresh fruit. When I came in I'd go into the girl's kitchen area and drop off the fruit. Let them know it was for everyone. Ended up getting an invite to the house where all the girls lived together, for dinner.
We've all had service where the girl is tugging but she is staring at the wall and probably working on a shopping list for dinner. When I get service where the girl is clearly trying to give me a great experience, I tip accordingly.
It's nice to hear of other guys that treat these girls as human beings. I hear too many stories from providers of just the opposite.[/QUOTE]This place was pretty good I have not been since it has change. I think I am done with Sh in Westminster extras 1 out of 25 times and serene and 5 star I like the price, but I end up going somewhere else for more money. I did try the $30 dollar place off of Imperial in LH and it was pretty good but no extras. I also tried 2424 Newport in cm cute girl but bad massage and nothing, I have lost interest in a sure thing and the result is I am going broke. I am also staying away from GG, Stanton and a few other areas, the BP adds leaves nothing to what is going on. Hey where has Cash Value been my guess he is just laying low but still very busy.
Went to Ocean. Its in a location where there have been AMP for twenty years. Off of Bristol, where Red hill and Santa Ana come together, on the Santa Ana side across from the motel. New management, last time a Thai kinda place, inconsistent on extras.
Went in, saw Jenny. 40 at the door for 30. Wait in room ten minutes, she comes in. About 25 cute enough. Starts on my back and replaces small sheet on rear. No problem. Massages my back for a minute or two, moves to my legs massage legs for one minute and says flip. I am thinking is this a 3 minute FS joint?
On flip, massage my legs, and in a minute says HJ 50 with her hand on my junk. I was startled, but said ok.
10 minutes of jackhammer, no tease, no style, I had to work to get it done.
Then leaves to get clean up towels- out five minutes. Then trys to upsell me for a $20 foot massage to finish the massage. I say no, but she keeps at it for a few minutes and finally I say strongly give me the half hour 40 massage. I am realty agitated and lost whatever relaxed feeling I had. Comes back in, gives me a two minute head and shoulders massage in the face up position, and leaves again. Come in and gives me arrm and hand for two minutes
You know the way the crack your fingers, she did the same to my elbow, hard and I thought she broke it and I needed Tommy John. Told her never do that to anyone again. She says something and leaves again, I think for water. After about three minutes I start to get dressed, and she comes in and sweetly says no more massage to me as a question, like she was going to give me the massage of my life. I tell her no, I just want to leave. Coldly give her the money, she says see you next time and I tell her loudly, there will be no next time here. Hope the MMS heard, and I hope they read this.
Not relaxing at all. Not on my repeat list. Holiday is close by, next time go there.