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Well-said!!
Nonpros NSA are the best. But once the relationship is turning into "Sting-Attachment", things could turn bad. Very bad especially for married mongers. I had a nonpro NSA for 8 years, and sex experience is still the best ever. But at the end, things went bad. Now, I am scared to do any nonpros hunting. LOL.
[QUOTE=Lexx1;6953923]Let's get a couple things straight here. If you pay for sex in ANY form you are a monger. The full term is wh0remonger or another term hobbyist. Sugar candy coat the terms all you want but a daddy / sugardaddy is still a damn monger! Doesn't matter if you pay for sex in a massage parlor, the street, sugar site, Asian agency, etc. You're a damn monger! What you think because you're a "sugardaddy " that you're in a higher class than the rest of us dudes paying for sex and better than us? LMAO You pay for sex, you're a monger. Period! End of story.
Second once a female decides to spread her legs for cash. She's technically become a wh0re, a prostitute. Just one time classifies her as such and society doesn't differentiate. Add on once they start doing it more often and become career babies. It just solidifies those terms more. HG and myself and the other OGs here that were running game in the Non-pro days. Used to deal with the knuckleheads starting beef over the nonpro term. Which at first is true because the girl has never been paid for sex. And the only reason we kept using the term to describe the girl was because that's how she was found. I still find nonpros but not always online. And a nonpro is the best type of girl you can find for P4 P arrangements. Way better than a sugarbaby. Because nonpros most of the time have never even considered being paid for sex. While a sugarbaby makes a conscious decision, on her own, to get in that lifestyle and knows she's expected to spread those legs for funds.
I've only been off the seeking site for a few months. But I can check in here any damn time I want. It's not like anythings changed of what's going on. I know this game a lot better than most of you and I know how to negotiate paid pussy down to proper prices. Some of the amounts floated around here of 800,1000 are insane. Are you even getting overnights for those amounts? Full GFE meaning no rubber for anything? CIP, swallowing, anal? I bet not. Which makes it even more laughable. I can do what I want and speak on the truth.
This site is for mongers / hobbyists by mongers / hobbyists. We're all in the same damn boat when it comes to paying for pussy. I acknowledge what I am doing and don't blind myself with candy coated terms like sugardaddy. And also don't blind myself to what a girl that's getting paid to spread her legs actually is. So don't over pay for that. As I've said before pussy really should be free. And I get it free to because I also civie date. But if paying for it get it as low a price as you can get. Cheap pussy does not mean low quality pussy. The nonpros I find would be considered dirt cheap and are just as cute, pretty, hot as the girls that are on sugar sites. And any race, Asian, White, Latina, Black, etc. But without the boujie and GPS / PPS mentalities that sugarbaby chics have.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DogRice;6957689]Well-said!!
Nonpros NSA are the best. But once the relationship is turning into "Sting-Attachment", things could turn bad. Very bad especially for married mongers. I had a nonpro NSA for 8 years, and sex experience is still the best ever. But at the end, things went bad. Now, I am scared to do any nonpros hunting. LOL.[/QUOTE]Keep hunting! Both nonpro and sugar arrangements are NSA. Just that sugar arrangements are generally considered to be a longer term type of thing. While nonpro arrangements can be short term, long term or even just a few days. That's why I appreciate nonpro girls alot more because sometimes they need something very simple as a cellphone bill paid. A sugarbaby on the other hand expects you to pay for everything or provide a living income which is nuts. It's like woman get your head out of your ass. That's not what it's meant for.
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Nonpro NSA
[QUOTE=Lexx1;6958272]Keep hunting! Both nonpro and sugar arrangements are NSA. Just that sugar arrangements are generally considered to be a longer term type of thing. While nonpro arrangements can be short term, long term or even just a few days. That's why I appreciate nonpro girls alot more because sometimes they need something very simple as a cellphone bill paid. A sugarbaby on the other hand expects you to pay for everything or provide a living income which is nuts. It's like woman get your head out of your ass. That's not what it's meant for.[/QUOTE]Are there any threads where I can read for this?
I am new and would like to know how it is done.
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[QUOTE=Kaphio0918;6958491]Are there any threads where I can read for this?
I am new and would like to know how it is done.[/QUOTE]The thread dedicated to it is old and not with current info. The basics back in the day were you put up a classifieds ad in the Craigslist personals section offering assistance to the ladies. Then a girl would reply to your ad and you'd take it from there. Of course you'd do your due diligence and research the girl to see if she was legit, fake or a prostitute. Just like research you'd do on a sugarbaby on a sugar site. But Craigslist closed its personals section back in 2018 due to the FOSTA act. And there hasn't been a good viable replacement to Craigslist personals. So I find my girls all over the place now but mostly in public. Just picking up chics to be potential regular civie dates or potential nonpros. Sometimes I find them through Facebook, insta or dating sites as well. On occasion I still put up an ad on CL and catch a few replies. But the ad doesn't last long because it gets flagged by mods on that site pretty quick.
The beauty of finding nonpros back on CL was that you could find cute to hot girls of all ages at bargain basement prices. On average you'd spend around 100 for a girl that would take care of your dick for hours. Sometimes I'd have girls fuck just to get a 50 cellphone bill paid, a traffic ticket, food and gas, etc. I'd have overnights for 150 to 200. The same quality of girls that are on sugar sites. Most of these girls are just regular everyday girls. Most should not be acting like they're a damn supermodel or pornstar. And you know how I know these girls are also on sugar sites. Because I also would dabble sometimes picking up girls on Seeking back in those days. I'd find the same girl I was fucking through CL have a profile on seeking. But asking for alot more for PPM on seeking. I'd experiment with a different profile pic to see what the same girl would charge. Girls get a boujie GPS mentality just because they're on a sugar site. Once in a while we'd get a GPS girl on CL too. But not asking for dumb amounts like 600 to 1000. Back then GPS was considered close to 300 and sometimes crazier amounts. We'd just laugh at those girls and were like NEXT! Because there were so many other girls that were just as good looking at a much lower PPM.
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SB Reviews 07/10/2024
Ana belle. She's back active again on SA. I reviewed her before.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0cae69ed-af1f-4c76-a4e0-d80e612a1220[/URL]
Mellb. She's back active again on SA. I reviewed her before. She just ended her long-term arrangement and looking for a new SD.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ee778f39-8eeb-4bb0-b059-729baa5662b6[/URL]
Leila. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ee3120b7-9ccb-4902-8dc4-acb9c8961fd8[/URL]
BellaDolce. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/81d0efcf-55f8-43a1-9087-1cac2b8ca898[/URL]
Zoey. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a66adaca-9259-419e-a950-76bec6f1caf9[/URL]
Alisa. Chinese girl. Ask for a lot of info. Lazy to reply to her. Not sure if she's real or not.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d7485ed-546f-4a8c-9cf2-268e6e6f0cb7[/URL]
Jessica. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4889f167-6cf0-40ef-a3ca-5a6c8a0c4f89[/URL]
Sharpbeau. She's more interested in discussing your experience on SA than in discussing an arrangement. It sounds like it's Brandon Wade doing undercover work on SA to get feedback from SD members or someone working at Seeking for sure. I encountered similar texting patterns with someone like this years ago wanting feedback from user experience. The wording they used in the messages was similar.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3f660c40-cdda-4625-8cb6-15b481f2f5b1[/URL]
Peach. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f2d6c272-7f82-4b32-b4c7-0549513c368a[/URL]
EnchantingBelle. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ddb7891f-71d4-41d5-be91-4a164b9f881e[/URL]
Lilly. Fake / Scammer. Using the looking for real love story again. Goes for the big scam.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ed369399-ca97-41c1-88cc-7f5f0159b367[/URL]
Hannah. Block me as soon as I did not accept her 1500 ppm or 5 k per month offer. She will not share pics or do a video chat. No idea what she looks like or if she's real. No link to share since she already blocked me.
Tatiana. She's back on SA with a new profile. I reviewed her before as well as other members on this forum. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e2b17d4-4b32-438d-bb31-e5b5c61f64cf[/URL]
Olivia. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5062bd84-e040-420c-915a-ad2dc0c1b071[/URL]
Blair. She's a 21 yo white girl. She lives near Thousand Oaks. She's asking for 1 k ppm.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/08282689-b3c9-4c8f-8f26-595905dd71e6[/URL]
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[QUOTE=UnknownSD;6955575]Another week of garbage on SA.
Fake / Scammer[/QUOTE]One thing I have noticed. And I only date AA girls. I can't ever think of a single time that an AA profile was a fake or a scammer. Maybe overpriced, but that's about it.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6959575]One thing I have noticed. And I only date AA girls. I can't ever think of a single time that an AA profile was a fake or a scammer. Maybe overpriced, but that's about it.[/QUOTE]What's AA girls? Do you mean perfect 10 girls? Maybe you can point out a few AA girls profile that you think is real.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6959575]One thing I have noticed. And I only date AA girls. I can't ever think of a single time that an AA profile was a fake or a scammer. Maybe overpriced, but that's about it.[/QUOTE]LOL Some guys concentrate a little to much on White and Asian meat. Asian girls I've found come a close second in not faking so much. I group White, Black and Latina girls together. Nothing special about them. Not that I don't like fucking them. But there shouldn't be a reason why any of them should be asking a premium. I see them as a dime a dozen. Only girls I give a little leverage to but just a little. Is Asian and Middle Eastern pussy. All the flavors are nice. But some of the best suck and fucks I've had. Have been with Black girls and mixed with Black girls. Those honeys know how to suck a dick and ride a dick. Some dudes just don't know what they're missing out on with the chocolate ladies. Got to live a little and try all the different colors of ladies out there.
AA is African American, Black girls.
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[QUOTE=Lexx1;6959859]Only girls I give a little leverage to but just a little. Is Asian and Middle Eastern pussy. [/QUOTE]I have only dated 3 middle eastern girls off seeking in 15+ years. All Armenian. After working in the jewelry district for many years I always wondered what an Armenian girl would be like as I knew the culture and even a few words of the language. 1st was an 18 year old Russian decent runaway from burbank, a real cutie. I let her stay at my house for 2 weeks. She wouldn't let me touch her and she insisted on paying for all her own meals. Finally went back to the parents.
Girl two was a smoking hot mid twenties single mom (half persian half turkish) from sun valley whose gangster BF kicked her to the curb when she got pregnant. She was so pretty w an amazing body and really tall for an armenian girl. Kept trying to get me to marry her and only gave up the kitty a few times in a few months. Cost me a bundle and tried to steal 5 k from me in the end. Didn't happen but she tried.
Girl three was a lebanese older MILF from montebello. We had some good times at a $ a date. Eventually she faded away after getting engaged.
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SB Reviews 07/11/2024
Alix. White girl in her mid 20's. She's out in Newport Beach area. She's looking for 1500 ppm.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d8179b9-947b-4d4e-a10f-22547fe385e4[/URL]
Renae. Platonic only.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b5c7e79b-cd35-4afe-acc0-d4ad4e2649a3[/URL]
Lucy. Fake / Scammer. Ask for gas money upfront.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/13a497fe-e3bd-44ee-804d-a4f44f229ef3[/URL]
Sierrrra. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5d8517d5-c6c7-4872-a1c9-dc1e6d24884f[/URL]
Luna. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/27bdf9a1-203d-4e60-854e-e1912c1a6c98[/URL]
Susan. I reviewed her before. She's back on SA with a new profile. Her profile pics are fake. She's lives near El Monte and looking for 600 ppm condom only.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db6d6352-042b-4081-9317-cf2845f8699f[/URL]
Michaela. Fake pics. European girl in her late 30's or 40's asking for 500 ppm for a M&G coffee / dinner date.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a972fe23-39f7-4ba3-8f5d-08767db23b1e[/URL]
Nolebaby98 xo. She's moving to LA. She will text you her real pics. Damn ugly. Didn't chat further.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5f97003e-a771-4ca0-acdb-950d3cd000b3[/URL]
Rosie. White girl in her mid 20's. She's real. Lives near DTLA. Allowance negotiable.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/61787f1b-9e5d-4e92-b192-58753431ba04[/URL]
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6960779]I have only dated 3 middle eastern girls off seeking in 15+ years. All Armenian. After working in the jewelry district for many years I always wondered what an Armenian girl would be like as I knew the culture and even a few words of the language. 1st was an 18 year old Russian decent runaway from burbank, a real cutie. I let her stay at my house for 2 weeks. She wouldn't let me touch her and she insisted on paying for all her own meals. Finally went back to the parents.
Girl two was a smoking hot mid twenties single mom (half persian half turkish) from sun valley whose gangster BF kicked her to the curb when she got pregnant. She was so pretty w an amazing body and really tall for an armenian girl. Kept trying to get me to marry her and only gave up the kitty a few times in a few months. Cost me a bundle and tried to steal 5 k from me in the end. Didn't happen but she tried.
Girl three was a lebanese older MILF from montebello. We had some good times at a $ a date. Eventually she faded away after getting engaged.[/QUOTE]Being that I live close to Glendale. I see a lot of Armenian booty around here. They are some gorgeous women with sexy naturally curvy bodies. My first Armenian girl, a nonpro, actually had a fiance. She was studying to become a dental hygienist. I was fucking her for about a year. Only took her to a room a couple of times. She mostly wanted to fuck in my car. Guess she was nervous about being seen at a hotel. LOL.
I've also flirted with the techs at my doctors appts. I started dating a Persian MILF in her early 30's that I met that way. Another honey with a curvy body. And by curvy I don't mean thick or fat. I'm talking about what a true perfect 10 body should look like. Slim waist with nice size tits and ass. That coke bottle shape. She was fun.
I've had more over the years and the ones that are single. Do want to get married. LOL But I'm like I'm just having fun. Middle Eastern girls can be sexy as fuck.
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Tatania
Tatania, could not find the review, Can you please share it again here.
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Greetings Gentlemen,
With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).
Thanks.[/blue]
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[QUOTE=Avarun1972;6961087]Tatania, could not find the review, Can you please share it again here.[/QUOTE]It's been a while since I reviewed her. She's out near the Bakersfield area before. I think she probably moved. She's been on SA for many years now. She was asking for 400-700 ppm. Her rates varied over the years. Another SD reviewed her before on here as well. He made sex tapes with her. You can read his post. I think it's still on this thread.
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I really appreciate that you share all of this information.
But how do you get it? Are you just constantly messaging every girl and asking what they're looking for?
[QUOTE=UnknownSD;6960837]Alix. White girl in her mid 20's. She's out in Newport Beach area. She's looking for 1500 ppm.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d8179b9-947b-4d4e-a10f-22547fe385e4[/URL]
Renae. Platonic only.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b5c7e79b-cd35-4afe-acc0-d4ad4e2649a3[/URL]
Lucy. Fake / Scammer. Ask for gas money upfront.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/13a497fe-e3bd-44ee-804d-a4f44f229ef3[/URL]
Sierrrra. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5d8517d5-c6c7-4872-a1c9-dc1e6d24884f[/URL]
Luna. Fake / Scammer.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/27bdf9a1-203d-4e60-854e-e1912c1a6c98[/URL]
Susan. I reviewed her before. She's back on SA with a new profile. Her profile pics are fake. She's lives near El Monte and looking for 600 ppm condom only.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db6d6352-042b-4081-9317-cf2845f8699f[/URL]
Michaela. Fake pics. European girl in her late 30's or 40's asking for 500 ppm for a M&G coffee / dinner date.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a972fe23-39f7-4ba3-8f5d-08767db23b1e[/URL]
Nolebaby98 xo. She's moving to LA. She will text you her real pics. Damn ugly. Didn't chat further.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5f97003e-a771-4ca0-acdb-950d3cd000b3[/URL]
Rosie. White girl in her mid 20's. She's real. Lives near DTLA. Allowance negotiable.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/61787f1b-9e5d-4e92-b192-58753431ba04[/URL][/QUOTE]