Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=FriendlyKing;6913827]I start conversations with some women, and even after exchanging a few messages and sharing pictures, it appears they haven't visited my profile. Their names don't show up in the "Viewed Me" section. I've stopped responding to these women, assuming they might be scammers or bots. I've noticed this pattern with older profiles too, which makes me think that bot profiles wouldn't stay active for so long. Could this be a technical glitch, or do some women just not bother to read profiles? Has anyone else experienced this? What do you make of it?[/QUOTE]Can view profiles via the "quick view profile" in messages and it doesn't count as a profile view.

[QUOTE=Mfp79;6914423]Can view profiles via the "quick view profile" in messages and it doesn't count as a profile view.[/QUOTE]Gotcha. Found the following in a reddit forum. When viewing a Seeking message on a PC, the person's profile is shown in a column next to the messages. That probably doesn't count as a "view" so in that case it could show that someone you are talking to has not viewed your profile.

[QUOTE=FriendlyKing;6913827]I start conversations with some women, and even after exchanging a few messages and sharing pictures, it appears they haven't visited my profile. Their names don't show up in the "Viewed Me" section. I've stopped responding to these women, assuming they might be scammers or bots. I've noticed this pattern with older profiles too, which makes me think that bot profiles wouldn't stay active for so long. Could this be a technical glitch, or do some women just not bother to read profiles? Has anyone else experienced this? What do you make of it?[/QUOTE]There's an option on SA to let you view profiles without the viewed knowing it. It's also an option on SB but it costs. SA has gone downhill over the past few months.

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6913448]The Online thing is real (although I find it accurate in search or email list, just not on the profile page), but the location issue has not been a problem for me.

Scammers can easily spoof the country or even address on Snap maps and can easily fool seeking as well. The manual location changing a lot is one of the telltale signs of a fake profile.[/QUOTE]Some scammers are better at this than others.

Sometimes Seeking's location services work; the profile claims they are in Boston but the location comes up outside the US. 99.9% chance that's a scammer.

Colombian. Pics match but looks older in person. Gave off a semi-pro vibe. I considered sending her back halfway through LOL. Don't waste your money; there are better options available.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/01772668-2081-4d61-8c9d-77778947e7d1[/URL]

[QUOTE=DreplyNow;6910967]I got a woman who asked the following, "what are the $ expectations for when we meet, so there won't be any awkwardness. ".

I provided my lines of $300, and stated that we would get together multiple times per month.

She followed up w / the following statement:

"I normally get $500 w / other arrangements. Going lower feels like it lowers my value and self-worth. That's something I do not want to do. Can you go higher? ".

Now, obviously, we've had lots of discussions on the price trajectory here. I've been away from Seeking, stopped paying for the service for about 12 months, but, was still watching the free version of the site & reading here the past & keeping up with what's been happing. I want to get some insights from as many guys as I can on how to respond to this statement.

Overall, I do not want to contribute to the $500 fallacy. I do want to get some current insights on what others are actually agreeing too.

At the end of the day, the the chick is:

1. Medium Slim.

2. Retail Job.

3. Not a total knockout but pleasing.

4. Seems to fun & outgoing.

5. Seems for the possibility of long-term consistent.

6. Not sure how many of the arrangements she's had, but I question her amount requests, whereas, what happened to those other arrangments? And why aren't they ongoing now?

Any advice would be helpful?[/QUOTE]Sometimes I'll do a "one and done" for $500, but I never make an arrangement for that ppm.

[QUOTE=DarkClouds;6909937]I have encountered a few Latinas with handlers on Seeking. I am learning to weed them out though.[/QUOTE]Are they doing bare?

[QUOTE=HounDog3;6913170]After I made the post last night, a new Monica profile showed up on SA this morning. The new Monica is location Boston, 42, and a black woman. The Monica I posted about is caucasian. I thought screen names on SA must be unique. This leads to one of two conclusions: either the original Monica changed the profile to obfuscate her identity or it's a handler with multiple women. My instinct tells me not a handler but maybe that's just what I want to believe. Any idea what is going on here? Or intel on the original Monica?

Here is my original post:

Looking for intel on Monica. Occasionally I like to try an older woman. YMMV. I find in general they're experienced, love sex, don't have to teach them, open to trying new things and horny as all hell. Looking for any info on Monica, 52 in Waltham. She had a previous profile age 42 in Lynnfield. Asked 1000 monthly allowance to meet a few times per month which I'm not paying. Blocked me so I don't have a link but not before I got contact information to negotiate. The change in profiles is a little concerning. Anyone seen her before maybe on another site or have experience with her? I'm guessing she may have been around awhile.[/QUOTE]I've seen duplicate Seeking usernames in the same search results before.

[QUOTE=FriendlyKing;6914472]Gotcha. Found the following in a reddit forum. When viewing a Seeking message on a PC, the person's profile is shown in a column next to the messages. That probably doesn't count as a "view" so in that case it could show that someone you are talking to has not viewed your profile.[/QUOTE]Viewing works. I'm sure some don't bother looking at it since their inbox is totally full and feel it's a burden to click on and read more about the guy when they already have to read their message LOL. I've had ones tell me they haven't looked at my profile but liked my photos or were doing the same that we do and just casting a net. I wouldn't worry to much about a person's online status or when they were last active. Send your message and move on. Things happen in life. Some of these women are on there for a short time, looking for one SD or stop logging in then log back in after a while. It is what it is. Try to get the number or social as fast and smooth as you can and set a meet that week or next. If it falls through it falls through l. That's a statement for what I read on the board not specially at you FK LOL.

[QUOTE=JClearMan1;6917749]Are they doing bare?[/QUOTE]If they have a handler, I'd say no (outside of BBBJ).

Has anyone seen this girl? I can't tell if I'm talking to her or a handler. She switched to text immediately and when she likes something it says she liked it in Portuguese so might be Brazilian bait and switch but she can't host so I guess it's easier to TOFTT if needed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48295667-1b53-4c65-bdfd-1e10bd9d5a16[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarkPowers;6922895]Has anyone seen this girl? I can't tell if I'm talking to her or a handler. She switched to text immediately and when she likes something it says she liked it in Portuguese so might be Brazilian bait and switch but she can't host so I guess it's easier to TOFTT if needed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48295667-1b53-4c65-bdfd-1e10bd9d5a16[/URL][/QUOTE]You got to do more research bro!

That is isis valverde ([URL]https://www.instagram.com/isisvalverde/[/URL]). Definitely not in Boston right now.

And those profile pics, were likely stolen from here:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/higoralmeidaphoto/[/URL] (2nd row).

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/C6pXYrkP83-/[/URL]

At least they kept the foreign language concept alive LOL.

[URL]https://vogue.globo.com/celebridades/noticia/2023/07/isis-valverde-posa-em-clima-de-despedida-do-deserto-nos-eua.ghtml[/URL]

A lot of people have been talking about this "Handler" concept (specifically w / Brazillian women). Can you provide more detail on what's actually going on? Would like to understand how this "handler" thing works. In this case, it just looks like a fake profile, where they asked for your phone number & you gave it.

My recommendation, keep the conversation going, learn what they are doing & how. Given you known now it's a fake, ask for an "immediate date today", provide a time & place as long as she can get there. Play it out & gain as much info as you can. Then. Ruin them. But make sure YOU report the profile BEFORE during the same time you OUT them. Otherwise, they will block you, & you won't get a chance to report it.

[QUOTE=DreplyNow;6922935]You got to do more research bro!

That is isis valverde ([URL]https://www.instagram.com/isisvalverde/[/URL]). Definitely not in Boston right now.

And those profile pics, were likely stolen from here:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/higoralmeidaphoto/[/URL] (2nd row).

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/C6pXYrkP83-/[/URL]

At least they kept the foreign language concept alive LOL.

[URL]https://vogue.globo.com/celebridades/noticia/2023/07/isis-valverde-posa-em-clima-de-despedida-do-deserto-nos-eua.ghtml[/URL]

A lot of people have been talking about this "Handler" concept (specifically w / Brazillian women). Can you provide more detail on what's actually going on? Would like to understand how this "handler" thing works. In this case, it just looks like a fake profile, where they asked for your phone number & you gave it.

My recommendation, keep the conversation going, learn what they are doing & how. Given you known now it's a fake, ask for an "immediate date today", provide a time & place as long as she can get there. Play it out & gain as much info as you can. Then. Ruin them. But make sure YOU report the profile BEFORE during the same time you OUT them. Otherwise, they will block you, & you won't get a chance to report it.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yeah. That's definitely my bad on this one. I'm usually better at finding things. I don't care about the phone number since it's not "real".

I usually just do what you say and report them immediately, but. I may go through with a meet and see what happens. I can set up a dayuse, meet in the parking lot, and just cancel if things aren't cool.

She wanted to video chat and Im not doing that, but curious if she would show her true self.

I think I’m the one that mentioned possible handler on seeking in an earlier post. It’s mostly a vibe. The Portuguese bits without saying anything about it, volunteering to move to text immediately and sending their number, eager to meet, open to activities, etc.

Any other thoughts?

I recently I found a girl from seeking on a dating apps. She lied about her age on Seeking from 34 to 30 yrs old. Someone posted about her here. I can't seem to do a search and look for that report. Have anybody experienced that?

That's not my focus, so I don't know. But I know that they are pretty open to whatever, so I would not be surprised at all. I've seen some pretty odd stuff with the recent migrants.

In one case, the girl in the profile was sort of like a "handler" or "driver" for another girl who was an absolute smoke show. I was skeptical but went ahead with it and I'm glad I did. The "handler" was open about it and I was able to meet her. Nice girl, but I wouldn't date her. Why was the smoke show not using her own pics in the profile? Two, reasons. One, the "handler" or "friend" was also looking for meets. So, she was just letting the smoke show friend piggy back on her profile and handle her communication since her English was a lot better. Two, the smoke show friend was going through some immigration process and her lawyer had advised her to remove all her social media. Before meeting, I was able to validate that the "driver" was legit, albeit slightly ghetto. The smoke show was very new to everything and not yet jaded but zero English so we had very little to talk about at Starbucks, with the help of Google translate.

In another case, I suspected the girl had a "handler" or "driver" (which is usually a cause for me to bail) so I asked her if she was driving herself. She hesitated and then said yes. In the event, she actually had her "handler" drop her off but in a backhanded sort of way so that I couldn't witness the "handler" (and I don't like that). She was cute enough so I went ahead with it. But she turned out to be a pain in the butt.

In yet another case, I found out that the girl was legit. She had a "roommate" but I was able to verify that they were not involved beyond that. Had a legendary 6 hour date with her and dropped her off at her regular job. No GPS but she kept insisting on getting married for the sake of immigration papers so she could bring her family here. Right, as if I am stupid enough to do something like that.

I have many more stories, but I will stop here for now.

[QUOTE=JClearMan1;6917749]Are they doing bare?[/QUOTE]