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Why in the world are you guys discussing the details associated with one of CHICAGO'S most professional and accommodating providers in a public forum? What will come of it other that to hurt, or possibly end her business? You guys really need to think some times.
The forum is for exchanging information, for sure. But the level of discussion regarding this provider, what she does and where she does it crosses the line. It is simply bragging and won't do anyone any good.
Does anyone know what happen to the place on 93rd and roberts Road in hickory? I went there a few times and even though you didn't really get ALL that much, the massage and ending was worth it. I don't see them posting anymore anywhere and there numbers are no longer in service. It was the ONLY place out this way.
Probably got shut down in the usual whack-a-mole style. I saw a new ad for a place just around the cornerat9800 blk of 95th, and the html coding of their ad looks like the old one, so it's probably the same people with a new name. Go figure.
[QUOTE=MagneticMarty;1332998]Does anyone know what happen to the place on 93rd and roberts Road in hickory? I went there a few times and even though you didn't really get ALL that much, the massage and ending was worth it. I don't see them posting anymore anywhere and there numbers are no longer in service. It was the ONLY place out this way.[/QUOTE]
Any info on Sunkiss are they just on vaction or closing. For the last few weeks every few days they close up for vacation, are they on the hit list.
[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955; 1332899]Why in the world are you guys discussing the details associated with one of CHICAGO'S most professional and accommodating providers in a public forum? What will come of it other that to hurt, or possibly end her business? You guys really need to think some times.
The forum is for exchanging information, for sure. But the level of discussion regarding this provider, what she does and where she does it crosses the line. It is simply bragging and won't do anyone any good.[/QUOTE]Can't agree more. Names, places, details. ? Nothing good can come of any of that.
[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955; 1332899]Why in the world are you guys discussing the details associated with one of CHICAGO'S most professional and accommodating providers in a public forum? What will come of it other that to hurt, or possibly end her business? You guys really need to think some times.
The forum is for exchanging information, for sure. But the level of discussion regarding this provider, what she does and where she does it crosses the line. It is simply bragging and won't do anyone any good.[/QUOTE] (1) Why in the world are you guys discussing the details associated with one of CHICAGO'S most professional and accommodating providers in a public forum? (What else is there to do? Who are you talking about?)
(2) What will come of it other that to hurt, or possibly end her business? (Yes. Blame the forum details. Do not blame the careless behavior of the provider)
(3) You guys really need to think some times. (We do, but often think with the wrong part of our body)
(4) The forum is for exchanging information, for sure (You have one post!)
(5) It is simply bragging and won't do anyone any good. (The free information offered on this forum does help determine who to see and who to avoid.)
Happy Holiday's Gent's! Xabi
[QUOTE=Salvatore1;1333194]Maybe you need to think some times.[/QUOTE]I am all for the exchange of information. However, there are certaindetails in these posts that crossed the line. In the current environment, the LAST thing we need is to scare one of CHICAGO'S most reliable providers out of te business.
Also, while this is my second post on this account, I was a long time Senior member on Nighthawk55 that had tostep away do to medical issues. In the time that followed, my password expired and I closed the e-mail account I was linked to.
I am all for exchanging info. HOWEVER, this provider did in no way consent, when offering clients to visit her at her home, to have said clients blah that info to the entire Internet.
I just think, in the current climate, that discussing such DETAILED info hurts your brother mongers more than it helps.
[QUOTE=BenBeck;1333177]Can't agree more. Names, places, details. ? Nothing good can come of any of that.[/QUOTE]There are details and there are details. Some things are better left unsaid in the public forum, available to anyone with a web browser.
Honestly, I think making people read between the lines weeds the idiots and the pussies out of the hobby. If you spell out every detail to guys without the guts or the balls to take some of the responsibility for gaining their own knowledge, the whole hobby collapses.
When all the new punters start knocking on the (back) door of the provider discussed previously, it is going to ruina sweet deal for her current clients, of which I am one.
There used to be a fair amount of chatter regarding this provider. I thought it had stopped because people wised up and didn't want to screw up a good thing. It would seem I was wrong.
I am just siggesting. In this climate. Be cool with exactly WHAT you say. Loose lips sink ships.
Recently, Sxy Joker proposed setting up a subscription-only Twitter feed to exchange info, but that idea kinda fell through due in part to some recent legal rulings.
I would like to advance an alternate proposal: That we post DETAILED info in our reports of what's good MINUS any identifying information beyond what forum it's posted to. Specifics would then be swapped on the back-channel in PMs, and if someone is a newbie, doesn't seem 'right', smells of pork, or is just someone you don't know, you can (politely) refuse to share the details. This kind of informally mirrors the 'web of trust' schemes that are being used on the darknets.
The upside of this is that all and sundry (including newbies and old Uncle Leo) will have an idea of what's going on out there, and appropriate prices. The downside is that it opens the door for a lot more disinformation, kind of like the old 'penthouse forums' (for those old enough to remember) where every mope who thought he could write porn novels took his shot.
Of course I'm still all for publicly outing bad / rip-off providers, so this doesn't apply to them. I'm only talking about this for good info on providers that we wish to protect, cherish (and keep providing).
So, let's discuss it. Any thoughts? Any ideas? Beuhler? Beuhler?
[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955; 1333707]I am all for the exchange of information. However, there are certain details in these posts that crossed the line. In the current environment, the LAST thing we need is to scare one of CHICAGO'S most reliable providers out of the business.
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I just think, in the current climate, that discussing such DETAILED info hurts your brother mongers more than it helps.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pna; 1333788]Recently, Sxy Joker proposed setting up a subscription-only Twitter feed to exchange info, but that idea kinda fell through due in part to some recent legal rulings.
I would like to advance an alternate proposal: That we post DETAILED info in our reports of what's good MINUS any identifying information beyond what forum it's posted to. Specifics would then be swapped on the back-channel in PMs, and if someone is a newbie, doesn't seem 'right', smells of pork, or is just someone you don't know, you can (politely) refuse to share the details. This kind of informally mirrors the 'web of trust' schemes that are being used on the darknets.
The upside of this is that all and sundry (including newbies and old Uncle Leo) will have an idea of what's going on out there, and appropriate prices. The downside is that it opens the door for a lot more disinformation, kind of like the old 'penthouse forums' (for those old enough to remember) where every mope who thought he could write porn novels took his shot.
Of course I'm still all for publicly outing bad / rip-off providers, so this doesn't apply to them. I'm only talking about this for good info on providers that we wish to protect, cherish (and keep providing).
So, let's discuss it. Any thoughts? Any ideas? Beuhler? Beuhler?[/QUOTE]I'm all for sharing but. I agree. Keeping things on the PM's should be the way to go. It seems that everytime a good place is made public, Uncle LEO is all over it. I am sick of looking for new places. I want to find that old standby.
[QUOTE=Twodya;1331763]Went to Xindy on Dec. 2 around 1:00 pm. Everything was terrible. All the providers are between 40 and 60 years old. Maybe the younger ones were in the back. I didn't see them. The way I was met at the door, she just said, come in sit over there. Sit over there, she said that over and over. Starting talking loud. Went to room she said out loud, no sex here. She never asked me what kind of massage I wanted. Started a hard walk on back, it hurt, she would not stop. I sat up. She left the room saying-here, your money back, here your money back. I will not return and don't recommend. Rough treatment. Maybe it was just a bad day for Xindy massage, but I won't return.[/QUOTE]At least she returned your money. I'm wondering why would you receive a massage from a lady from the chicken ranch days?
[QUOTE=Xabi Alonso; 1333186] (1) Why in the world are you guys discussing the details associated with one of CHICAGO'S most professional and accommodating providers in a public forum? (What else is there to do? Who are you talking about?)
(2) What will come of it other that to hurt, or possibly end her business? (Yes. Blame the forum details. Do not blame the careless behavior of the provider)
(3) You guys really need to think some times. (We do, but often think with the wrong part of our body)
(4) The forum is for exchanging information, for sure (You have one post!)
(5) It is simply bragging and won't do anyone any good. (The free information offered on this forum does help determine who to see and who to avoid.)
Happy Holiday's Gent's! Xabi[/QUOTE]I am new to the area. However, an old pro to the game. We look for these posts to provide us useful information. When the information is not available the board will not be useful any more. When the newbies pm the older guys in this forum, we get igged. We are caught in a catch. We must find out a comfortable way to provide much needed information to all without compromising reliable providers.
[QUOTE=MagneticMarty;1332998]Does anyone know what happen to the place on 93rd and roberts Road in hickory? I went there a few times and even though you didn't really get ALL that much, the massage and ending was worth it. I don't see them posting anymore anywhere and there numbers are no longer in service. It was the ONLY place out this way.[/QUOTE]I had never been there but thought the asian with nice tits and smile on the ad was worth a try many times. So I was in the area over the summer and parked, ready to go in, but feeling ill all day I bailed out just at that moment. Was she for real or was it fantasy pic?
Let me just preface this by saying that I've been reading these boards religiously for over a year now, but have not delved into posting because its just not my style. However, things have changed and I cannot in good conscious sit back and just continue to read without commenting on my experiences and other mongers comments, postings, etc. And expressing my thoughts and views on a variety of subjects. Also, I am by no means a novice and have had quite a few experiences over the past year+ with various providers of all sorts. You all have a provided a wealth of information that I have read, sifted through and digested over the past year. Especially late last year when I was just beginning to look for certain information on providers, mainly mp's. Reading pages and pages of postings really helped a lot. Read so many reviews prior to actually diving in and trying my hand at getting satisfied at mp's. Now I can honestly say that I have gained a lot of experience (but probably still not as much as some of you) through my endeavors and simply by keeping up with reading all the postings. So you should be hearing a lot more from me, on other forums / threads too.
I realize that at this point I am untrusted though and that's ok. Part of my strategy as far as not posting also has been to avoid the all too common mistake of putting out information on the boards only to see it used by leo in their effort to eliminate our hobby.
So thanks for all the info and reading my intro.
Wasn't sure where to post this but this seemed like a good place.