Is there any member willing to share their sugar baby. I am only start this and not ready coming up with any luck. Thanks.
Printable View
Is there any member willing to share their sugar baby. I am only start this and not ready coming up with any luck. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Majest;1632473]Is there any member willing to share their sugar baby. I am only start this and not ready coming up with any luck. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Is there anyone else on this forum thinks the above post is in bad form?
Majest,
I can get you just about any Sugar Baby you want for 1K a night. Oh can't afford that? Then you could RTFF, join the recommended sites, put some mother fucking work in, and get one on you own. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
SubCmdr Out!
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]
[QUOTE=Majest;1632473]Is there any member willing to share their sugar baby. I am only start this and not ready coming up with any luck. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Majest,
You've asked for info before and received sound advice to read this forum from beginning to end. Google seeking arrangement and sugar daddy for me. Put in the work. If you're not getting results, change your approach or stick to escorts.
[QUOTE=Majest;1632473]Is there any member willing to share their sugar baby. I am only start this and not ready coming up with any luck. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Enyone else thinking about the story of the Little Red Hen?
Happy New Year all,
Scott
My brothers, and of course, Mandy!
As promised, I am posting my adventures of late on the road, hopefully better later than never. The rest of the family has gone to see "Les Miserables", a 2.5 hour epic that I have to admit I did want to see as well, but weighed the sad reality of Hugh Jackman without claws, Russel Crowe not in a gladiator suit, and Anne Hathaway with totally-cute short hair and yet not naked against some badly-needed Me Time, and I think wisely chose the latter. I'm sure I can convince someone to go see it again in a week or two, so in the meantime I will take advantage of the empty house to compose my narrative. I'm almost certain it will have no value beyond entertainment, but I feel I have earned my wings so hopefully you will indulge me just a bit. It is a long tale, thus I will break it up into parts so as not to overwhelm the clubhouse journal.
[B]Part One: Chicago to Memphis[/B]
I set out on the road with a light heart and a jaunty melody in my head, bound ultimately for New Orleans to help my younger daughter move into a new apartment, but with the immediate goal of stopping mid-way in Memphis, where I had lined up a hot yet suspiciously-agreeable baby for an m&g in my hotel lobby bar, and if all things went well, a rapid adjournment to my room for some hot yoga. Being no rookie, I had a back-up baby in the wings just in case Baby #1 flaked out on me. What could possibly go wrong? Well, my friends, I apparently had a tiny Jeff Goldbloom from Jurassic Park sitting on my shoulder and whispering sweet nothings into my ear regarding Chaos Theory, for about three hours into the 8 hour drive, I got a text from a third baby in Memphis who apologized for not getting back to me sooner, but admitting that she is strapped for Christmas cash, and normally does not do the sort of one-night-stand thing I was suggesting, but I was so polite, and yada yada, and would love to meet me when I get to town, but cautions me that she can't spend the night since she has a young son and 2 am is her baby sitter's limit, if that's ok!
I wanted to tell her that 2 am is when my pacemaker defaults into sleep mode and so I am fine with that, but at the last minute thought better of it, and just texted back that I was on the road and would get back to her in detail at my next gas stop. My thinking here was that I would find a McDonalds, bring in my laptop, sign in to their free wifi, and check out her profile. Imagine my delight when I logged on to SA and discoverd that she is a tiny Italian goddess, barely 23 years old, and possesses what looks to a seasoned eye to be a substantial yet natural rack, supported by a toned abdomen and slim hips! Hooray say Scottie and I, and I text her back that I will gladly meet her as soon as I can get myself organized, 2 am will have to do I guess, and I can't wait to connect! All is good up to this point, but now that I am relating things, I understand where I went wrong. Instead of letting things stand pat with Babies 2 and 3, I texted #2, (previously #1) to tell her I was running late, and probably would not be able to meet her after all. I know, my brothers, rookie mistake, and yet I felt so sure about the new front-runner that I did not even think about what the downside could possibly be.
At this moment, you could all probably write the denouement. I get to the hotel, check in, determine that the bar serves alcohol and hors d'oeuvres, and text New Baby#1 that she is cleared for landing. 45 minutes later, I begin to suspect what lies ahead for me, as I hear nothing back on the Booty Channel. In a panic, I text Babies #2 and #3, and receive the same response - silence! In less than an hour, I go from 3 HYBs primed for a solid pounding to none; well except for Rosie, and she can hardly be characterized as an HYB - more like a seasoned pro, but I digress. Sadder and wiser, Scottie, Rosie and I head up to our room and are universally dismayed to find that there is no porn channel, free or otherwise. Luckily I did not waste a vitamin V, so we consoled ourselves with the promise of better days ahead. This is, of course, only day One.
Scott
My friends,
A new day dawns, full of sunlight and promise, and I point my vehicle southward, optimistic that my luck will soon change. I have several solid leads with whom I have been emailing and texting, including one that "feels a special connection" with me, and is fun, flirty and intelligent. Hooray!
I hit town around 5pm, check into my hotel, and make plans to meet NOLA Baby #1 at a restaurant on the edge of the French Quarter that specializes in oysters, a food we find we both have a fondness for. I am confident of success with this baby, and stop at a drug store to purchase some playclothes for Scottie. I get to the restaurant first, secure us two seats at the oyster bar, and immediately get a text asking if I will "meet the taxi" when she gets there, a euphemism, I instantly grasp, for "pay the fare." I am somewhat taken aback by this, but what the hey, if she is as pretty as her pictures, I will soon forget about it.
A few minutes later, I am curbside, handing a twenty to the driver and ogling a beautiful blonde in a push-up bra in the backseat! Cab fare be damned, I think, and reach back to open her door, as any gentleman would. In retrospect, I should have ended the evening right there, while fantasy still reigned, but alas, it was not to be. NOLA Baby gets out of the taxi, and I instantly realize she is a wizard at PhotoShop, and has done some very skillful editing of her SA pics. This girl is easily 220 if she is an ounce, and is wearing shoes that make her about 6'4"! I list my height at 5'10", and am optimistic about that, so she is towering over me! I honestly would not have a problem with that if she did not also outweigh me by 50 or so pounds! Being a gentleman, and needing to eat anyway, I escort her in to our seats, and we begin to chat. Or rather she begins to chat, while I sit silently listening to her talk about her favorite subject, herself! The one interesting story she told, and in retrospect it should have been a tip-off, was about another SD she met who flew her in to Vegas for their first meeting, and after a day together, checked out of their room on the sly and disappeared! Lucky bastard!
The only times this girl stopped talking about herself was to order more oysters or champagne cocktails. Six dozen bluepoints later, I finally had to pull the plug, since I was in physical pain from eating so much, and was pretty sure the bill was going to wipe out the cash I had brought with me. As I stagger out the door, she rubs her boobs against the back of my head and asks coquettishly what I have in mind next. It is clear that she wants to come back to the hotel with me, indeed expects to do so, but I can't imagine anything worse, and I start mumbling about it being late, the long drive, too much to drink - really anything I can think of to wriggle free. I almost laughed at the astonished look on her face, but managed to keep it together long enough to drive her home with the promise of getting together another night while I'm in town. Needless to say, it did not happen, though she texted me daily for the next week or so. Yikes!
Fortunately, my luck changed dramatically the following evening, and in fact, as I start to write this, I am feeling a little guilty, since this next baby was so fantastic, she is almost all I think about these days. We met at a hip little cafe for dinner, and instantly felt a connection, something we both marveled at later on. She is gorgeous, funny, smart, creative, lively and interesting, and apparently is a semi-famous singer / songwriter, since she had just come back into town from a tour in New England. I did not recognize her face, and am pretty sure she did not use her real name, but she said she has a few albums out, and some music videos on Youtube, so she must be talented. She has promised to record something for me and send it once she gets back into the studio. I can't wait!
After dinner, she asks if I'd like to see her new apartment that she moved into the day before, to which I reply "absolutely"! I follow her to this amazingly romantic and evocative old mansion, on a dark street lined with live oaks and Spanish moss, where she leads me into a room that was clearly the original parlor, complete with elaborate moldings, herringbone parquet floors, plantation shutters, high ceilings and an old fireplace with a beautiful antique mirror above it. For those of you who know what I do, you know I am in heaven at this point! As we are sitting together and talking, she takes a tissue out of her purse and starts to wipe her incredibly red lipstick off, all the while looking me straight in the eyes. After a moment, I realize that she is getting ready to kiss me, and I find what she is doing extremely erotic. After a couple of hours, during which I gladly explore every inch of her incredible body, she turns out the light and falls asleep in my arms, as I lie there listening to her breathe and marveling at my good fortune at last. A little later, a church bell tolls the hour, and I understand why people rave on about New Orleans, especially if there can be a baby such as her there. I canceled all plans for the following evening, and spent the night with her again, after meeting her at an antiques shop and buying her some things for the new place, and I am pretty certain that if I had spent a third night with her, I would not have come back. Fortunately, for my normal life, but unfortunately for my Sugar life, I had to leave for Asheville the following morning, where more adventures awaited. We text every day, and I am scheming to get down there again as soon as possible. If I sound pathetic and love-sick to you, my brothers, it is no accident. As I said, she is pretty much all I think about.
[QUOTE=F Scott;1633837]We text every day, and I am scheming to get down there again as soon as possible. If I sound pathetic and love-sick to you, my brothers, it is no accident. As I said, she is pretty much all I think about.[/QUOTE]Oh shit! Scotte's sprung on the cat! Don't do it man! It's a drug. It's all in your head. Go cold turkey. 12 step program. Just say no to crack!
LOL.
SubCmdr Out!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1634031]Oh shit! Scotte's sprung on the cat! Don't do it man! It's a drug. It's all in your head. Go cold turkey. 12 step program. Just say no to crack!
LOL.
SubCmdr Out![/QUOTE]I'm already looking into airfare from New Orleans to fly her up here! A drug indeed!
Goner,
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1634082]I'm already looking into airfare from New Orleans to fly her up here! A drug indeed!
Goner,
Scott[/QUOTE]I do understand. I've flown in a hot big butt beauty from the ATL on many an occasion. Great report, thanks for the update.
-
Side note, I'm still enjoying my two new favs. There has been a lull in activity due to the holidays.
This gave me too much time on my hands to try and make SD4me work. (I used a green dot and took advantage of the 3 day special, they tried to rebill, but no funds where there. Excellent). This SB is 30, separated, Asian, D-cups and bored. Very low sugar requirements and has a flexible schedule. Just my type, LOL! I hope to have a M&G with her tonight. I have a Tiggabounce set up for tomorrow with one of my 2 new favs and a date setup on Sat and Mon night with the other. It's good to be back in the saddle!
Sounds like Triggers is having a great time.
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1634247]I do understand. I've flown in a hot big butt beauty from the ATL on many an occasion. Great report, thanks for the update.
Side note, I'm still enjoying my two new favs. There has been a lull in activity due to the holidays.
This gave me too much time on my hands to try and make SD4me work. (I used a green dot and took advantage of the 3 day special, they tried to rebill, but no funds where there. Excellent). This SB is 30, separated, Asian, D-cups and bored. Very low sugar requirements and has a flexible schedule. Just my type, LOL! I hope to have a M&G with her tonight. I have a Tiggabounce set up for tomorrow with one of my 2 new favs and a date setup on Sat and Mon night with the other. It's good to be back in the saddle![/QUOTE]
Hey guys, I'm a newbie here, but I learn quickly.
I laughed my butt off as you guys told another newbie to go back and read the forum (not to ask the population to share their SB!). Then I went back and began reading the forum myself. I quickly set up a profile on SA, uploaded a photo of Simon Baker (which got rejected) , uploaded one of me, ponied up $70 for the first 30 days and IMMEDIATELY began getting notes from ladies. Mostly in VA, and a few as far away as Kenya.
I set up a meeting with an AA today, met her, gave her a small gift and a hug. Then her texts started coming through asking me to do nasty things to her tonight. I think I'll take her up on the offer.
I'm pursuing a few more opportunities as well through SA. I'll see where this leads me and then I may try out SD4U next week.
Bengal
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1634247]I do understand. I've flown in a hot big butt beauty from the ATL on many an occasion. Great report, thanks for the update.
-
Side note, I'm still enjoying my two new favs. There has been a lull in activity due to the holidays.
This gave me too much time on my hands to try and make SD4me work. (I used a green dot and took advantage of the 3 day special, they tried to rebill, but no funds where there. Excellent). This SB is 30, separated, Asian, D-cups and bored. Very low sugar requirements and has a flexible schedule. Just my type, LOL! I hope to have a M&G with her tonight. I have a Tiggabounce set up for tomorrow with one of my 2 new favs and a date setup on Sat and Mon night with the other. It's good to be back in the saddle![/QUOTE]Nice to know that the green dot was accepted. Some times I get a new account there for a few months to try out some new material. Its always a minor hassle to have to cancel my card and get a new number when I want to close the account. Something I do once a year anyway for I'd theft protection. Thanks again
[QUOTE=Bengaltiger67; 1635227]Hey guys, I'm a newbie here, but I learn quickly.
I laughed my butt off as you guys told another newbie to go back and read the forum (not to ask the population to share their SB!). Then I went back and began reading the forum myself. I quickly set up a profile on SA, uploaded a photo of Simon Baker (which got rejected) , uploaded one of me, ponied up $70 for the first 30 days and IMMEDIATELY began getting notes from ladies. Mostly in VA, and a few as far away as Kenya.
I set up a meeting with an AA today, met her, gave her a small gift and a hug. Then her texts started coming through asking me to do nasty things to her tonight. I think I'll take her up on the offer.
I'm pursuing a few more opportunities as well through SA. I'll see where this leads me and then I may try out SD4U next week.
Bengal[/QUOTE]Welcome Bengal (I think Bengals and Tiggers are related, so we'll have to have drinks and compare notes, LOL)
Good on you for getting off to such a good start. Have fun, be safe, minimize thinking with the wrong head and by all means report back!
BigTigg
Had another hotel date with MsDichotomy. I only had 2 hours free and we'd not seen each other in about 2 weeks I think. She walks in the room and greets me like a long lost lover. So much passion and sexual hunger, it was great. It was instant foreplay almost like a hollywood movie, LOL. She literally almost jumped on me when we initially hugged and kissed. Not long after, it's off to the races. Multiple positions, multiple O's and no pretense. Seems like she needed it much more than I did, but who am I to judge, LOL. I'm always amazed at how hot her body is and how much she really downplays it. Like I said before, she's a very very conservative dresser and she made me laugh with this quick story. She told me the story of how another woman commented on her body and how she dresses and if she had her body how she would dress. Then she thought "I don't have to dress like a sl* to be one". OMG, I laughed so hard on that one. (Every time we are together she earns that codename, LOL.) Then I commenced to tapping into that sluttiness she mentioned. Earlier in the evening I introduced her to greenDot ($100) and she was very appreciative.
My spontaneous meet and greet with the Asian (MsBored) went really well. We met at a local establishment, it closed right when we got there. So she hopped in and we went to a place that stayed open longer. Laughed, learned, flirted and had a really good time. She showed me some great photos on her phone, many without her face showing if you get what I mean (of which I had her email them to me immediately). She's really cool and just tired of going out with guys and having to pay for things. Wow, she set the bar very low. We spent about 30 mins in the car exploring each other tongues and bodies. I'm expecting the Tiggabounce with her on the 2nd date. We've pretty much discussed that already. Exchanged a few texts and calls today, so things seem to be lined up. She's the closest to me, which can make for some great spontaneous activities. I put $40 in her coat pocket when she went to the restroom for th. The money was for the 5 minute cab right she took to meet me. After the date was over and she went in the apartment, I called and told her the money was there she was very surprised and happy. She says she felt spoiled already. Sounds like a great start. One interesting note, this is probably the first time I met a SB within hours of the first contact. I want to say from initial contact on SA to "boob in mouth" was less than 12 hours.
TheTeacher will be back in town on Saturday, I have some competing activities, not sure when we'll link up. Supposed to be Monday, but I forgot that was New Year's eve, LOL.
BigTigg
I know I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway.
The way I see it, Escorts, SBs, and Gold-diggers fall under the same umbrella (ie. Prostitution). At the end of the day, they're all willing to sleep with men they normally wouldn't for money.
But there's some distinctions.
Gold-digger. These girls will sleep with rich (ugly) men but they typically want to be seen living the luxury lifestyle. They have no intentions of being discreet about it. They want everyone to know they're dating the rich guy and they're usually entirely focused on extracting as much wealth out of the guy as they can whether it's through marriage or having a kid.
Sugar Baby. These girls like / want / need money and have decided they're willing to sleep with a man to get it. However they may not be as committed as a gold-digger to extract as much wealth as possible from a man. They also may still try to balance their "normal" life or have a boyfriend / husband and need to do it discreetly. Most SBs generally need to have some baseline level of attraction or chemistry to sleep with the man. The more money involved they'll obviously be willing to lower their standards more, but most SBs still won't sleep with a guy they're completely repulsed by. That's why they still request the guy's photos on the sugar daddy sites.
Escort. These girls will sleep with just about any guy their "manager" will let them sleep with. They don't even know what the guy looks like until he shows up at the hotel door. They actively avoid having any kind of chemistry with the guys and have all kinds of "rules" to prevent any emotional connection. Sex with escorts is reliable but often mechanical and cold. It's why many of us ventured into the Sugar World.
I've noticed that some SBs evolve into Gold-Diggers while others evolve into escorts. I'd like to think that SBs are at that entry level where they still have a bit of their humanity. But of the fun and challenge with SBs is that they don't always say,"Yes". There's still the thrill of the hunt.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1632157]I got to give you big props. I can't even get a marriage to last three years! I just be fuckin up WAY too much. I get kicked to the curb on a regular basis.[/QUOTE]Well, it isn't like there haven't been plenty of bumps along the way. I've posted about some of those before, though, so I won't repeat them here.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1632157]Think that whole disrespect for women thing I have going on might have something to do with it? LOL.[/QUOTE]Entirely possible, my friend. Entirely possible. (: But that's OK. Someday, you'll find someone, SB or girlfriend, that will teach you better, and you'll regret all those garden tool references. He says, ducking for cover into his handy-dandy bomb shelter. LOL! (:
[noparse]/[/noparse]z
[QUOTE=Majest;1632473]Is there any member willing to share their sugar baby. I am only start this and not ready coming up with any luck. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It doesn't seem likely. More than with any other type of provider, men who have sugar babies tend to be somewhat proprietary towards them. Reasons for this are many, ranging from the illusion, and [I]some[/I]times reality, of some degree of exclusivity, all the way to not wanting to rick losing them to a bigger spender. Most sugar daddies won't treat the women they know as commodities the way most mongers do with other varieties of provider. They've developed some degree of affection for them, even if they won't admit it, and the girl's safety can also be a factor. After all, you might be a cop, or stalker, or worse.
Your best option is the one given to you previously. Read this board from the beginning, decide which of the many experiences on here you can use to your own benefit, and go out and break your own path. Be wary of trying to emulate someone else exactly; what works for one may not be appropriate for [I]anyone [/I]else, let alone you.
For instance, while I met my SB when she was dancing naked in a strip club, I wouldn't recommend that as a place to look. I got lucky, [I]extremely [/I]lucky; most strippers, upon learning that you're looking for a sugar baby, will be happy to take your money, and give you absolutely nothing in return. I've been going to strip clubs and having sex with strippers for almost 35 years, and this is the [I]first [/I]girl with whom I've ever had this level of comfort.
Take care, and good luck.
[noparse]/[/noparse]z
[QUOTE=F Scott;1633837]We text every day, and I am scheming to get down there again as soon as possible. If I sound pathetic and love-sick to you, my brothers, it is no accident. As I said, she is pretty much all I think about.[/QUOTE]Well, that certainly sounds familiar. Better watch out! (:
[noparse]/[/noparse]z
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1634031]Oh shit! Scotte's sprung on the cat! Don't do it man! It's a drug. It's all in your head. Go cold turkey. 12 step program. Just say no to crack![/QUOTE]It's [I]better [/I]than crack. And it's [I]good [/I]for you. (:
[noparse]/[/noparse]z
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1635652]Earlier in the evening I introduced her to greenDot ($100) and she was very appreciative.[/QUOTE]So, just out of curiosity, and this is a serious question, do you, or does she, have a problem with cash?
[noparse]/[/noparse]z
[QUOTE=Zomby; 1635772]So, just out of curiosity, and this is a serious question, do you, or does she, have a problem with cash?
[noparse]/[/noparse]z[/QUOTE]She does not have a big problem with cash, but many of the women I deal with feel awkward getting cash. It makes them feel a little weird. So this was a way for me to get her funds without her feeling all weird about it. I'll just text her the number, probably a day or so before we meet and she'll load it up. So we never have to discuss money while we are together. This method works for me, because as we have discussed, many women don't want to be reminded that it's sex for money. So the further I can keep my SBs from "feeling like a escort", usually the better my time with them is. It also sets up that I can send, even small amounts without having to see her, just to let her know she's on my mind.
BigTigg
Please remember, I usually target women who have a lower sugar requirement and are usually looking for something boyfriend-like. Women, like MsBored, who just want fun and not have to pay for everything. Those who want allowances and want to be added to my bill pay and need my money to pay rent, are not normally the ones I stick with.
Over time this usually leads to an average sugar amount really low, because there will be times where I don't exchange any money at all. For example I had one SB that I was seeing about 6 times a month. On average she was getting $400 per month cash. Let's say we went out 3 times and stayed in 3 times. Without a hotel bill since she had her own place, my total expenses were about $600. So I'm getting drained regularly, with at least one overnight visit. All other visits were at least 3 hours. She was, pretty, hot body and great in bed. That comes to about $100 per session. But the real value is realized when I break it down hourly. With one overnight of say 10 hours and 5 3 hour dates. That's 25 hours a month. $600/25 is $24 per hour. This is one of the many things I love about this lifestyle!
Of course things fluctuate depending on if I'm flying someone in, fancier dates, activities, but overall I just love SB math.
I'd love to hear some comparisons from those who do give a more generous allowance or those who are cheaper (smoother) than I am.
BigTigg
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1635785]She does not have a big problem with cash, but many of the women I deal with feel awkward getting cash. It makes them feel a little weird. So this was a way for me to get her funds without here feeling all weird about it.[/QUOTE]Understood. I guess this is just one of those differences that highlight the way I stumbled into this. In the stripper world, cash is [I]queen[/I]. It would never even have occurred to me [I]not [/I]to use cash. Strippers don't want gift cards, gifts or anything like that. They want to be able to pay their tipouts, and have something for the babysitter when they get home. And, of course, other, less savory expenses in some cases, though I try to avoid those as much as possible.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1635785]I'll just text her the number, probably a day before we meet and she'll load it up.[/QUOTE]Paying her beforehand is another thing that would never have occurred to me. Yes, I've given her small amounts of cash on occasion, when there was no sex involved, but she's never asked me to give her anything [I]before [/I]we get together. Again, that's likely because of my experience with strippers, where money you give her comes with no obligation on her part whatsoever. (:
Of course, there's never been any pretense between us that this is anything but a quid pro quo situation, for both of us, and neither one of us expects the sugar to flow one way.
[noparse]/[/noparse]z
[QUOTE=Zomby; 1635808]Paying her beforehand is another thing that would never have occurred to me.
[noparse]/[/noparse]z[/QUOTE]I should be clear, this is not done with every one I'm with. Usually when I feel that I'm going to keep her around and it feels more "relationship" like. Then I transition to green dot. Otherwise, cash is king and usually only when I know the TiggaBounce is guaranteed to happen. I do almost no paying beforehand with most of the women I deal with. Many do not make it to the greenDot stage, LOL.
Interesting you bring this up because this is almost exactly how I do it with my current ATF SB. I haven't handed her cash directly in about 2 months.
I send her small amounts here and there and the large amounts are usually sent before or after our get-togethers. It definitely helps make the arrangement feel more like a "regular" relationship for them. It's like I'm her secret well-off boyfriend she sees on the side, instead of the guy she has sex with for money. Doing it this way also enhances the dates and bedroom activities because she doesn't feel like an escort.
That said, I'm actually having some issues with my ATF lately. She's been getting a little too comfortable and on the last date she was acting like the bedroom activities were "optional". She wanted to do a bunch of other stuff and didn't really put a high priority on us getting down. As mentioned before, I hadn't seen her in a while, so I was very annoyed by this. So I set her straight afterward, but I went home with a severe case of blue balls.
Also usually she just asks for small amounts between meets (< $50) , but it does add up if you're not careful.
I think the danger with the "Green Dot" method is that it's possible the SB may sometimes forget what we're actually paying for at the end of the day. When the money is far removed from the bedroom, they sometimes forget their obligations. That's what happened with me at least. Also, you don't want to give a Green Dot to a "needy" girl. If she's a Nando1, it will be a total burden. Fortunately for me, my ATF SB keeps her requests reasonable and limited.
And like BigTigger, I only do this for a SB I see as sticking around for a while and have decent chemistry with. With this SB, my costs end up being a little higher than BigTigger's because I have to rent a room and such. And with us not getting down last time, it definitely threw off my cost / session. But to her credit, she texts me every day and gives me a lot of personal attention. Talking to a hot 20 year-old everyday does wonders for the ego.
I think the Green Dot method is worthwhile for making the experience feel less sleezy and more like a real relationship for both you and the SB. Not sure if I'm actually saving money though, probably not. But it does make it easier to spread the money out instead of a couple of big lump sums per month.
Met my new AA baby outside of her house late last night. She jumped in my car and immediately began tearing my clothes off. Wow. This is going to be fun. $.6 seemed to make her happy. She made me promise to text her back and set up the next meeting.
I've got a movie date tonight with an utr escort (in retirement I suppose) that I'm working on getting to the baby status.
I have 2 meetings tomorrow with 2 potential babies from SA.
I want to go back to the strip clubs and try and convert one to a SB. I've done that in the past but she moved out of town after seeing me for 6 months or so.
Hows that for a report, BigTigg?
Bengal.
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1635639]Welcome Bengal (I think Bengals and Tiggers are related, so we'll have to have drinks and compare notes, LOL)
Good on you for getting off to such a good start. Have fun, be safe, minimize thinking with the wrong head and by all means report back!
BigTigg[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John G Smith; 1635656]I know I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway.
The way I see it, Escorts, SBs, and Gold-diggers fall under the same umbrella (ie. Prostitution). At the end of the day, they're all willing to sleep with men they normally wouldn't for money.
But there's some distinctions.
Gold-digger. These girls will sleep with rich (ugly) men but they typically want to be seen living the luxury lifestyle. They have no intentions of being discreet about it. They want everyone to know they're dating the rich guy and they're usually entirely focused on extracting as much wealth out of the guy as they can whether it's through marriage or having a kid.
Sugar Baby. These girls like / want / need money and have decided they're willing to sleep with a man to get it. However they may not be as committed as a gold-digger to extract as much wealth as possible from a man. They also may still try to balance their "normal" life or have a boyfriend / husband and need to do it discreetly. Most SBs generally need to have some baseline level of attraction or chemistry to sleep with the man. The more money involved they'll obviously be willing to lower their standards more, but most SBs still won't sleep with a guy they're completely repulsed by. That's why they still request the guy's photos on the sugar daddy sites.
Escort. These girls will sleep with just about any guy their "manager" will let them sleep with. They don't even know what the guy looks like until he shows up at the hotel door. They actively avoid having any kind of chemistry with the guys and have all kinds of "rules" to prevent any emotional connection. Sex with escorts is reliable but often mechanical and cold. It's why many of us ventured into the Sugar World.
I've noticed that some SBs evolve into Gold-Diggers while others evolve into escorts. I'd like to think that SBs are at that entry level where they still have a bit of their humanity. But of the fun and challenge with SBs is that they don't always say,"Yes". There's still the thrill of the hunt.[/QUOTE]I would slightly disagree with your assesment. There is defiantly a gray area between dating and prostitution that the SB worldresides in. People have been known to marry their SB or SD's. All relationships are conditional. Donald Trump has a hott wife, and we all know it is not because of his sparkling personality and goodlooks. Nobody would call Donald Trump or Warren Buffets wives a prostitute. In my opinions its like the owner of SA said all relationships are conditional, but the SD world everybody is honest about those conditions instead of lying to ourselves and promoting the illusions unconditional love and relationships that do not exsist in the real world. There are defiantly some arrangements that are so transactional it might as well be prostitution, but there is a degree of gray area in the SD world as well. In my opinion the regular dating scene would look like the SD scene if eveverybody was truely honest.
Hello Gentlemen and Lady,
I've been following this thread for awhile now. I've actually read it from the very beginning. It's by far the best thread on this site hands down. I've been dabbling in the Sugar Bowl but never had anything of any true value to post till now. After being contacted by a potential SB through CL, she's also on SD4Me, the conversation of course turned to allowance. I offered what I felt to be a fair sum of $$$ per meet to which she replies with links to the following site.
[url=http://a.myurl.in/?http:// http://fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/how-to-tell-if-a-sd-is-legit/]Share MyURL.in: http://fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/how-to-tell-if-a-sd-is-legit/[/url]
[url=http://a.myurl.in/?http://fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/the-art-of-negotiation/]Share MyURL.in: fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/the-art-of-negotiation/[/url]
I made the links anonymous so it doesn't track back to the site. That's how Mandy found us. .
I don't think these sites realize the disservice they do many of these girls. The SB who contacted me was a 6 maybe 6. 5 at best and yet, somehow she feels that she deserves $$$$ per meet. The SD Industry (member sites and blogs) use the Prince Charming / White Knight myth to line there own pockets. They have a lot of internal information and they know how many men really have the ability to provide such a sum to meet a woman once a week. But they still push the myth of if sign up, post a picture of yourself, and write a short introduction of how great you are, you'll find Prince Charming in a matter of days.
I find it rather humorous when I see SB's, who clearly have no business looking for a SD requesting an allowance of $$$$$$+ a month. But I digress. The site listed looks like isn't hasn't been active for awhile, so I'm not afraid of being placed on it's Fake SD List. Ohhhhhhhhh. (Ghost Sounds) I just wanted to take an opportunity to vent and to inform my brothers that GPS is real. And it kills.
- Treasure Hunter.
"Plundering Booty Is My Occupation"
Hello Gentlemen and Lady,
I've been following this thread for awhile now. I've actually read it from the very beginning. It's by far the best thread on this site hands down. I've been dabbling in the Sugar Bowl but never had anything of any true value to post till now. After being contacted by a potential SB through CL, she's also on SD4Me, the conversation of course turned to allowance. I offered what I felt to be a fair sum of $.5 to $$$ per meet, depending on length of stay, to which she replies with links to the following site.
[url=http://a.myurl.in/?http:// http://fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/how-to-tell-if-a-sd-is-legit/]Share MyURL.in: http://fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/how-to-tell-if-a-sd-is-legit/[/url]
[url=http://a.myurl.in/?http://fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/the-art-of-negotiation/]Share MyURL.in: fakesugardaddiesexposed.wordpress.com/the-art-of-negotiation/[/url]
I made the links anonymous so it doesn't track back to the site. That's how Mandy found us. .
I don't think these sites realize the disservice they do many of these girls. The SB who contacted me was a 6 maybe 6. 5 at best and yet, somehow she feels that she deserves $$$$ per meet. The SD Industry (member sites and blogs) use the Prince Charming / White Knight myth to line there own pockets. They have a lot of internal information and they know how many men really have the ability to provide such a sum to meet a woman once a week. But they still push the myth of if sign up, post a picture of yourself, and write a short introduction of how great you are, you'll find Prince Charming in a matter of days.
I find it rather humorous when I see SB's, who clearly have no business looking for a SD requesting an allowance of $$$$$$+ a month. But I digress. The site listed looks like isn't hasn't been active for awhile, so I'm not afraid of being placed on it's Fake SD List. Ohhhhhhhhh. (Ghost Sounds) I just wanted to take an opportunity to vent and to inform my brothers that GPS is real. And it kills.
- Treasure Hunter.
"Plundering Booty Is My Occupation"
[QUOTE=Zomby; 1635765]It doesn't seem likely. More than with any other type of provider, men who have sugar babies tend to be somewhat proprietary towards them. Reasons for this are many, ranging from the illusion, and [I]some[/I]times reality, of some degree of exclusivity, all the way to not wanting to rick losing them to a bigger spender. Most sugar daddies won't treat the women they know as commodities the way most mongers do with other varieties of provider. They've developed some degree of affection for them, even if they won't admit it, and the girl's safety can also be a factor. After all, you might be a cop, or stalker, or worse.
Your best option is the one given to you previously. Read this board from the beginning, decide which of the many experiences on here you can use to your own benefit, and go out and break your own path. Be wary of trying to emulate someone else exactly; what works for one may not be appropriate for [I]anyone [/I]else, let alone you.
For instance, while I met my SB when she was dancing naked in a strip club, I wouldn't recommend that as a place to look. I got lucky, [I]extremely [/I]lucky; most strippers, upon learning that you're looking for a sugar baby, will be happy to take your money, and give you absolutely nothing in return. I've been going to strip clubs and having sex with strippers for almost 35 years, and this is the [I]first [/I]girl with whom I've ever had this level of comfort.
Take care, and good luck.
[noparse]/[/noparse]z[/QUOTE]Zomby,
I think it would be easier if we could just step out of the Saloon into the middle of town at high noon and draw.
I have successfully traded SB's with other Brother's I have met here in the forum and but not in person. And I've even had one refer me one that made it into the ATF line up. So yes, those mongers on here that still think that they have formed relationships with their personal cum depositories (otherwise known as SB's) are so special. And simply can't take idea of another dick might have shot splooge all up in that nasty poosie they are going down on better get a reality check.
SB's are garden tools with internet access. Pure and simple. Trade them like baseball cards. Put them into the network. Babies get more money. Daddies get more pussy. Win Win and that is good for the game.
SubCmdr Out!
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1635792]Please remember, I usually target women who have a lower sugar requirement and are usually looking for something boyfriend-like. Women, like MsBored, who just want fun and not have to pay for everything. Those who want allowances and want to be added to my bill pay and need my money to pay rent, are not normally the ones I stick with.
Over time this usually leads to an average sugar amount really low, because there will be times where I don't exchange any money at all. For example I had one SB that I was seeing about 6 times a month. On average she was getting $400 per month cash. Let's say we went out 3 times and stayed in 3 times. Without a hotel bill since she had her own place, my total expenses were about $600. So I'm getting drained regularly, with at least one overnight visit. All other visits were at least 3 hours. She was, pretty, hot body and great in bed. That comes to about $100 per session. But the real value is realized when I break it down hourly. With one overnight of say 10 hours and 5 3 hour dates. That's 25 hours a month. $600/25 is $24 per hour. This is one of the many things I love about this lifestyle!
Of course things fluctuate depending on if I'm flying someone in, fancier dates, activities, but overall I just love SB math.
I'd love to hear some comparisons from those who do give a more generous allowance or those who are cheaper (smoother) than I am.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]BigTigg knows how to run dem digits!
SubCmdr Out!
Karrueche.
[url]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page.ry&mid=3629538[/url]
She hit me up on SD4me. Said she only needed a few thousand. LOL. In case you don't know and probably don't care she is Chris Browns part time or x girlfriend when he is not dating Rihanna.
[url]http://hollywoodlife.com/celeb/karrueche-tran/[/url]
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1638141]Karrueche.
[url]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page.ry&mid=3629538[/url]
She hit me up on SD4me. Said she only needed a few thousand. LOL. In case you don't know and probably don't care she is Chris Browns part time or x girlfriend when he is not dating Rihanna.
[url]http://hollywoodlife.com/celeb/karrueche-tran/[/url][/QUOTE]It's not the real Karrueche Tran.
Karrueche is 24 the SB profile says 22.
Karrueche is 5'1 and SB profile says 5'4.
Karrueche is born in May SB profile says she's a Scorpio.
[url][url]http://www.modelmayhem.com/1494550[/url]
[url]
In my experience I have found that paying at the time of service keeps everyone honest. We can all talk all day long about the definition of escort vs prostitute vs SB vs Friend with benefit, and it is like politics, everyone has their own spin on it. But the bottom line is that if a girl is providing services to a guy for money that has been negotiated in advance and a requirement for the relationship to prosper, then it is prostitution. Any DA would go to the bank on that. If your girl dates you for the lovely and romantic self that you are and you decide to help her out with her finances then that is not. (most of us call that marriage)
Paying per visit keeps it real and neither party ever feels cheated.like John's experience (J G Smith) Blue balls should be grounds for termination just as nonpayment would. A deal is a deal.
Now the rules can change. My ATF HCB.now long gone and excommunicado.I would have written a check for anything she needed, but she never asked. And SBs can become IRL GFs and then they earn the right to pester you, nag you, withhold the booty all they want.
[QUOTE=TreasureHunter; 1638218]It's not the real Karrueche Tran.
Karrueche is 24 the SB profile says 22.
Karrueche is 5'1 and SB profile says 5'4.
Karrueche is born in May SB profile says she's a Scorpio.
[url]
[url]http://www.modelmayhem.com/1494550[/url]
[url][/QUOTE]Tell me it ain't so! A fake profile on SD4ME? No way!
Along the same line, sd4me doesn't seem to rotate their shill baby ads. You know the ones they start sending you when your profile expires and suddenly you are inundated with hot baby requests? You would think they would at least rotate the profiles because, yes, we notice those things.
Stay Safe.
Strict
My friends,
As promised, I am posting the third and final installment on my Most Excellent Adventure through the magical South. I apologize for the tardiness of this report, but the moment I got back I had to jump headfirst into the Christmas holiday, and what with family constantly underfoot, I found it impossible to carve out any Me Time until now. I am happy to relay that everyone is back where they belong, and I can finally find the privacy needed to finish my tale. Not that any of you were holding your breath, LOL!
As you may recall, I spent two glorious nights, and mornings, with a fantastic musician baby in New Orleans, in her romantic ruin of an apartment on the wrong side of St Charles street. It could not have been better, in all honesty, and I am still conflicted about how to proceed, and how to think about it, if at all, but that is another matter. On to Asheville, and a baby I had seen the last time I was there, and for whom Scottie has an almost incurable infatuation. She is not the prettiest baby I have ever fucked, nor the slimmest, but there is something almost feral about her that I find intoxicating, at least in bed.
I arrived late Monday evening, but had been texting her all afternoon, and so she was ready for our arrival. Instead of drinks and dinner, she suggested we meet at the hotel, and she would bring some wine and toys! Sounds good to me! I check in, shower, and text her the landing coordinates. A few minutes later, she arrives, and after some small talk, and a paper cup or two of wine each, we get down to business.
Now this baby has an incredible head of hair, very thick and luxurious, and one of her profile photos is of just her hair, from behind, so I already know there is something to it that she likes. As we are kissing, she starts to talk dirty, asking me to do various things to her that I would do anyway, but having it spelled out like that was helpful and quite erotic, I must say. Eventually she gets around to "I love it when you pull my hair", which stirs a vague memory in me of another baby, who also had long, thick beautiful red hair, and a penchant for cashmere and penny loafers, and who also liked things a little on the rough side. Obligingly, I grab a handful of her locks just at the base of her neck and simply close my hand, thereby creating a tension on her hair that produces one of the louder moans she has yet to emit that evening, so far at least. This is apparently just what the doctor ordered, and she urges me on by kissing me hard, with just the hint of a bite, and moving my hand firmly between her legs. I continue along these lines for a bit more, kissing, pulling, and petting, until she indicates that it is finally time to get serious.
I move around to doggie, grab some more hair, and on a whim, give her a solid smack on her exquisite ass. Well, my brothers, this is apparently what she has been waiting for, and she lets out a sound that I'm not sure I've ever heard before from anyone, clamps down hard on Scottie, and pushes up and back with a force that almost knocks me over! Ride 'em cowboy indeed! Fortunately I am a graduate of the Polo School of Recreational Spanking, and so am able to "hit it", so to speak from both sides, all the while gently but firmly pulling on great handfuls of her glorious hair! With each swat she squeezed Scottie harder and harder, and it was the work of but a moment or two longer before things reached their climax, so to speak, and she slipped down onto the bed, apparently in a stupor of happiness and contentment.
I have to say at this point that while I was pleased to have given her the kind of thing she wanted, and was truly impressed with the power and size of her orgasm, I'm just not into the whole spanking thing. I guess I'm happy to oblige, if that's where a baby wants to be taken, but it does little to nothing for Scottie and me by itself. The pleasure for me, I now think, is in the reaction of the baby, not the action of spanking, if that makes any sense. Apparently she is not alone among babies in sometimes just needing some discipline, however, since a few days after I got back there was an article in the paper about the rise of BD / SM scenarios among the soccer mom set, brought on, it said, by the "Shades of Grey" books. Whatever.
We spend the next hour or so engaged in what used to be called "heavy petting", then went for round two, after which she curled up in my arms and fell asleep. I will refrain from any more blow-by-blow, except to say that she was on a four hour sleep cycle, and apparently having some fairly salacious dreams, as I barely got any more sleep that night, long into the morning. Overnights are nice, but I need to work out more before I head down there again. The following evening was spent with Brother Rat doing our best to deplete the town of its craft beer supply, and the night after that was back with Naughty Baby; a wonderful time indeed. I love Asheville!
I share this not to boast, (well, maybe just a little) but to offer the suggestion that you all might, the next time you are with your babies, give them a light smack, just to see how they react. It could open up a whole new world for you both, unless you have already discovered it.
As for me, I am back at work, my head all ajumble with thoughts of my sweet NOLA baby, and how in the hell I am going to get to see her again anytime soon. Do you think airline tickets and hotel room for a week is a legitimate thing to ask for on Kickstarter?
Peace,
Scott
PS - we never did get around to the toys. Next time, I guess!
Scott. Great Report thanks for sharing.
Also thanks to those who PM'd me about the SB Math.
I don't have all the time to do blow by blow, but I wanted to give a few more updates.
I saw MsBored the other night. It was late, I was on my way home and only had about an hour. She was on her period, so we spent time in the car. That evening ended with some more body exploration and some sucking and slurping on the TiggaStick. Wow she's talented. So two nights later, I was on my way home late at night again. I told her I had 15 mins and we could chat some. She was like sure. Pulled up, found a secure location and to my surprised, she's like. Let's get in the backseat. Then my next surprise was that she did not have on any bra or panties. Little did I know that she came with plans in mind (and prepared too). Wow, this was some good backseat loving, and about 1 hour later, we were both just marveling in sheer ecstasy. Up until this point, I'd only given her $40 from the first date. I then gave her another $40 and brought her some McD's. It was the only thing open at that time of night. She was so very thankful. Overall, I was surprised at her aggressiveness, but I definitely welcomed it. The kitty was very tight and very wet. Even in the backseat she had two orgasms. Wow! She has almost perfect breasts, I'm thinking 34DD, no sagging. Yummy! We have a regular hotel date set for next week.
Meanwhile, I met this other SB-MILF type. 41, AA, built very very nice. The top and the bottom are not overly big or super small. She's definitely shapely, but it's toned. She also used to be an athlete all through high school and college. She's 5'8, very pretty and she's also a teacher. This week, I've seen her 3 times. 2 dates and a stop by and chat since I was in the neighborhood. I actually brought her a number of household items (by request) and gave her. 4 cash. Other than that, I've paid for meals and movie. Don't ask me how it happened, but she's spending the weekend with me this weekend. I'm almost ashamed to do the SB math on this one. She says she just needed a break and I was so excited about the new opportunity that I cancelled two other SBs that I had lined up for Fri and Sat. So here goes.
BigTigg
Tigg,
You never cease to amaze me, my friend! Your Cost Per Orgasm, or whatever our term for it is, must be close to a dime! I'd love to come down there and take some lessons from you sometime - these northern babies are clearly working with the New Math. Keep up the good work!
...and don't forget to write,
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1640411]My friends,
As promised, I am posting the third and final installment on my Most Excellent Adventure through the magical South. I apologize for the tardiness of this report, but the moment I got back I had to jump headfirst into the Christmas holiday, and what with family constantly underfoot, I found it impossible to carve out any Me Time until now. I am happy to relay that everyone is back where they belong, and I can finally find the privacy needed to finish my tale. Not that any of you were holding your breath, LOL!
As you may recall, I spent two glorious nights, and mornings, with a fantastic musician baby in New Orleans, in her romantic ruin of an apartment on the wrong side of St Charles street. It could not have been better, in all honesty, and I am still conflicted about how to proceed, and how to think about it, if at all, but that is another matter. On to Asheville, and a baby I had seen the last time I was there, and for whom Scottie has an almost incurable infatuation. She is not the prettiest baby I have ever fucked, nor the slimmest, but there is something almost feral about her that I find intoxicating, at least in bed.
I arrived late Monday evening, but had been texting her all afternoon, and so she was ready for our arrival. Instead of drinks and dinner, she suggested we meet at the hotel, and she would bring some wine and toys! Sounds good to me! I check in, shower, and text her the landing coordinates. A few minutes later, she arrives, and after some small talk, and a paper cup or two of wine each, we get down to business.
Now this baby has an incredible head of hair, very thick and luxurious, and one of her profile photos is of just her hair, from behind, so I already know there is something to it that she likes. As we are kissing, she starts to talk dirty, asking me to do various things to her that I would do anyway, but having it spelled out like that was helpful and quite erotic, I must say. Eventually she gets around to "I love it when you pull my hair", which stirs a vague memory in me of another baby, who also had long, thick beautiful red hair, and a penchant for cashmere and penny loafers, and who also liked things a little on the rough side. Obligingly, I grab a handful of her locks just at the base of her neck and simply close my hand, thereby creating a tension on her hair that produces one of the louder moans she has yet to emit that evening, so far at least. This is apparently just what the doctor ordered, and she urges me on by kissing me hard, with just the hint of a bite, and moving my hand firmly between her legs. I continue along these lines for a bit more, kissing, pulling, and petting, until she indicates that it is finally time to get serious.
I move around to doggie, grab some more hair, and on a whim, give her a solid smack on her exquisite ass. Well, my brothers, this is apparently what she has been waiting for, and she lets out a sound that I'm not sure I've ever heard before from anyone, clamps down hard on Scottie, and pushes up and back with a force that almost knocks me over! Ride 'them cowboy indeed! Fortunately I am a graduate of the Polo School of Recreational Spanking, and so am able to "hit it", so to speak from both sides, all the while gently but firmly pulling on great handfuls of her glorious hair! With each swat she squeezed Scottie harder and harder, and it was the work of but a moment or two longer before things reached their climax, so to speak, and she slipped down onto the bed, apparently in a stupor of happiness and contentment.
I have to say at this point that while I was pleased to have given her the kind of thing she wanted, and was truly impressed with the power and size of her orgasm, I'm just not into the whole spanking thing. I guess I'm happy to oblige, if that's where a baby wants to be taken, but it does little to nothing for Scottie and me by itself. The pleasure for me, I now think, is in the reaction of the baby, not the action of spanking, if that makes any sense. Apparently she is not alone among babies in sometimes just needing some discipline, however, since a few days after I got back there was an article in the paper about the rise of BD / SM scenarios among the soccer mom set, brought on, it said, by the "Shades of Grey" books. Whatever.
We spend the next hour or so engaged in what used to be called "heavy petting", then went for round two, after which she curled up in my arms and fell asleep. I will refrain from any more blow-by-blow, except to say that she was on a four hour sleep cycle, and apparently having some fairly salacious dreams, as I barely got any more sleep that night, long into the morning. Overnights are nice, but I need to work out more before I head down there again. The following evening was spent with Brother Rat doing our best to deplete the town of its craft beer supply, and the night after that was back with Naughty Baby; a wonderful time indeed. I love Asheville!
I share this not to boast, (well, maybe just a little) but to offer the suggestion that you all might, the next time you are with your babies, give them a light smack, just to see how they react. It could open up a whole new world for you both, unless you have already discovered it.
As for me, I am back at work, my head all ajumble with thoughts of my sweet NOLA baby, and how in the hell I am going to get to see her again anytime soon. Do you think airline tickets and hotel room for a week is a legitimate thing to ask for on Kickstarter?
Peace,
Scott.
PS. We never did get around to the toys. Next time, I guess![/QUOTE]My ATF and a pro thats my current roommate are both reading 50 shades. I have a small collection of whips, paddles and crops. Although a firm hand is most always welcome. Over the years I have noticed a few pro's with their guard down admit to really being submissive, even though they may have to be more in control on the job. The SD SB dynamic by nature is one that conjures up a the / S or SM relationship. Add in a 30 year or more age difference and you have almost a stereotypical master slave relationship. SB's call their men daddy for a reason. They want a firm yet loving hand to guide, reward and punish them when it's appropriate. While you may not find this your cup of tea, I suggest you all try it out. You will most likely get a positive response. Start out light and increase the sting gradually. They'll let you know when you have reached the proper intensity. And of course a positive response can lead to more confidence, intimacy and satisfaction for all.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1641539]While you may not find this your cup of tea, I suggest you all try it out. You will most likely get a positive response. Start out light and increase the sting gradually. They'll let you know when you have reached the proper intensity. And of course a positive response can lead to more confidence, intimacy and satisfaction for all.[/QUOTE]Hollywood,
I think you have smacked the nail on the head, so to speak, especially with your last sentence. As I said, it was erotic in that I was giving her what she wanted, but not necessarily what I might have enjoyed. In the end, we both felt happy, so who's to say? My only fear is that I may want to spank my SO a little too hard to make up for all the shit that has transpired between us over the years, good and bad! Ah well, we shall see.
Scott