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[QUOTE=JoeWeiner;3424125]I hadn't sampled the touring girls in quite some time and I had the desire when I saw Nikki De Luca from Red Tease was coming into town about 2 weeks ago.
[URL]http://www.redtease.me/main.php?load=girl&name=Nikki%20De%20Luca[/URL]
She was an extremely hot Brazilian and she was every bit as hot as her pics if not better. Her body and a $$ was so firm and her accent was very sexy. She was a pretty good kisser too. She gave me a real nice hand job and let me DATY for a good 10 minutes before I couldn't resist and had to go for the main course since I also knew I was on a time limit. She let me bang her hard for a good 30 minutes and she was very skilled. Overall I had a great time. Damage was $$ 5.[/QUOTE]I saw her as well. She looked way better than the pics and was probably the hottest girl (in face and body) I've seen in this hobby. She was a good performer, up until I apparently didn't cum fast enough for her. Started getting a little salty at one point when I switched positions and told her I didn't want this to end yet. But then I agreed and she perked right up and got into doggy. I wanted to finish with her on top, but she wouldn't. Overall it was a good time up until about a half hour or 40 minutes. It's like, I'm paying you way more than I should so I want my full hour. For that reason, despite how incredible her body was, I wouldn't repeat unless I was just flush with cash.
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[QUOTE=BartMartin;3426531]I saw her as well. She looked way better than the pics and was probably the hottest girl (in face and body) I've seen in this hobby. She was a good performer, up until I apparently didn't cum fast enough for her. Started getting a little salty at one point when I switched positions and told her I didn't want this to end yet. But then I agreed and she perked right up and got into doggy. I wanted to finish with her on top, but she wouldn't. Overall it was a good time up until about a half hour or 40 minutes. It's like, I'm paying you way more than I should so I want my full hour. For that reason, despite how incredible her body was, I wouldn't repeat unless I was just flush with cash.[/QUOTE]I am noticing this trend, especially with the Brazilian girls, one and done. Now usually I'll get 90 min or 120 and hope for 3 pops, but after one completely wasted time with a ridiculously long massage and a single shot, I've gone down to 1 hr to see how they are first. Same thing happened more or less today. Gorgeous freaking girls, but looks can only get them so far. Maybe it's great for those looking to try international flavors for the first time, but I'm not dropping 4-7 benjis for that crap when we have a couple stunning locals and semi-locals who work much harder. Makes me miss the Russian girls, most of the ones I have seen always did me right and earned it.
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I stick with city-[URL]girls.com[/URL]. Always 2 shots on goal and they have some good talent moving through this month. The first time using them is 350, but 300 each visit after that. Sometimes, they offer last minute deals of 250.
[QUOTE=ArtWater;3426991]I am noticing this trend, especially with the Brazilian girls, one and done. Now usually I'll get 90 min or 120 and hope for 3 pops, but after one completely wasted time with a ridiculously long massage and a single shot, I've gone down to 1 hr to see how they are first. Same thing happened more or less today. Gorgeous freaking girls, but looks can only get them so far. Maybe it's great for those looking to try international flavors for the first time, but I'm not dropping 4-7 benjis for that crap when we have a couple stunning locals and semi-locals who work much harder. Makes me miss the Russian girls, most of the ones I have seen always did me right and earned it.[/QUOTE]
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Yeah, I might stick with City-girls. I saw Catalaya back in March. Very sweet girl, no complaining and I got about four pops. She said the most anyone's every had was like 9 in a multiple hour session. Crazy.
I also saw Lilly. Waaay better in person than her pictures (found her more attractive in the face then Catalaya). Again, multiple pops, maybe not as open to everything as Catalaya but still a good time. Plus she wore a skin tight body suit that was just incredible.
For Red Tease, I saw Camilla (something like that) about a month or so ago. Incredibly hot, with a fake hot body. Didn't speak any English though, had to use translator app on her phone to tell me anything. Good time, multiple pops.
Then Nikki was only one pop, not as open to everything and I still paid the most for her.
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Catalaya is amazing girl, don't know if she will tour again!
[QUOTE=BartMartin;3427513]Yeah, I might stick with City-girls. I saw Catalaya back in March. Very sweet girl, no complaining and I got about four pops. She said the most anyone's every had was like 9 in a multiple hour session. Crazy.
I also saw Lilly. Waaay better in person than her pictures (found her more attractive in the face then Catalaya). Again, multiple pops, maybe not as open to everything as Catalaya but still a good time. Plus she wore a skin tight body suit that was just incredible.
For Red Tease, I saw Camilla (something like that) about a month or so ago. Incredibly hot, with a fake hot body. Didn't speak any English though, had to use translator app on her phone to tell me anything. Good time, multiple pops.
Then Nikki was only one pop, not as open to everything and I still paid the most for her.[/QUOTE]
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Has anyone dated taylor citi girl?
[QUOTE=CoolRayat86;3428946]Catalaya is amazing girl, don't know if she will tour again![/QUOTE]
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Yes I seen her 2 x with city-[URL]girls.com[/URL]. Not for the faint of heart though. She will fuck you, not the other way around LOL. And will try to drain you for 2 pops. If I were being picky, she has man made boobs, although nicely done. Also somewhat skinny ass. But I'm a butt man. She has model face.
[QUOTE=CoolRayat86;3429449]Has anyone dated taylor citi girl?[/QUOTE]
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House is full for taylor show.
[QUOTE=SilverBullett2;3429512]Yes I seen her 2 x with city-[URL]girls.com[/URL]. Not for the faint of heart though. She will fuck you, not the other way around LOL. And will try to drain you for 2 pops. If I were being picky, she has man made boobs, although nicely done. Also somewhat skinny ass. But I'm a butt man. She has model face.[/QUOTE]
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Verification
Did anyone get verified without providing employer info? I'm retired and can't really provide what they are asking.
[QUOTE=BartMartin;3427513]Yeah, I might stick with City-girls. [/QUOTE]
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Anyone recognize her?
Olivia Spade. High ender.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/ohio/files/2518317.htm?cat=1[/URL]
[URL]http://YourOliviaSpade.com[/URL]
I'm interested, but can't find any reviews or credentials. Yet her ad says, "I'm back; recognize me?" I don't, but I guess I haven't really been around that long. But I find it odd that she does her own screening / verification and doesn't accept references or verification from other sites. Can anyone verify her?
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[QUOTE=ProgInOhio;3436113]Did anyone get verified without providing employer info? I'm retired and can't really provide what they are asking.[/QUOTE]Not sure, but their customer service has been really good for me. Never had to wait more than 10-15 minutes for a reply, whether it was to confirm or deny an appt or just answering my questions. Wouldn't hurt to send them a message.
Also I had an impromptu meeting with Liana of City Girls last week, whatever her first day here was. I had my eye on Megan and Demi, but I realized there was no way our schedules would work out. I typically like seeing girls with bolt-ons, but I was in the mood so I figured I'd try Liana. C-G's policy is usually that you can't book a girl on their first day in your city before, I think, 3 pm. But I just filled out the form asking for 12, thinking if it goes through somehow, cool, if not then whatever. Then it went through.
She was a fine time, not my best experience of the 3 girls I've seen at City now. Rode like a champ and never complained though. I think I'll stick to the more ample-chested women however.
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C-g
Thanks. I'll call when the next one is in town. I love what I've seen on their site and it's worth paying a little more for quality.
[QUOTE=BartMartin;3437480]Not sure, but their customer service has been really good for me. Never had to wait more than 10-15 minutes for a reply, whether it was to confirm or deny an appt or just answering my questions. Wouldn't hurt to send them a message.
Also I had an impromptu meeting with Liana of City Girls last week, whatever her first day here was. I had my eye on Megan and Demi, but I realized there was no way our schedules would work out. I typically like seeing girls with bolt-ons, but I was in the mood so I figured I'd try Liana. C-G's policy is usually that you can't book a girl on their first day in your city before, I think, 3 pm. But I just filled out the form asking for 12, thinking if it goes through somehow, cool, if not then whatever. Then it went through.
She was a fine time, not my best experience of the 3 girls I've seen at City now. Rode like a champ and never complained though. I think I'll stick to the more ample-chested women however.[/QUOTE]
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Jessica
I met with Jessica a few times since this post and was looking to see her again. Her number seems not to be active anymore and her social media shows in a recent relationship. I assume she's moved on but can anyone confirm?
[QUOTE=TripleNickle;3124709]Guys,
I have known Jessica for a few years. Blonde, 25 yrs old, really cute, 5' 3", 130, outgoing, friendly, skillful, true GFE (the usual acronyms). She is a single mom, recent lost her day job and is looking for new clients.
I recently saw her in Columbus (3 weeks ago) and she never disappoints.
Highly recommended. You are welcome to PM me for more info.
Her contact number is 740-248-1694. I am posting her number with her permission.
Feel free to tell her Triplenickle sent you!
TP.[/QUOTE]
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Sweets?
[QUOTE=SheThinksGolf;3441705]I met with Jessica a few times since this post and was looking to see her again. Her number seems not to be active anymore and her social media shows in a recent relationship. I assume she's moved on but can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Is this the Jessica you are referring to? : [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8712-News-and-Media-Reports&p=3304346&viewfull=1#post3304346[/URL].
See this post and ones preceeding it.
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CG-Vita
Went to see Vita this week. She is old and her profile photo are professionally torched, could not find any connection, horrible time.
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RE: Sweets
Thanks for the response and info, Cherny. That's the one I was inquiring about. I'm an out of towner but surprised I missed this. Sad news to read about her troubles but I hope it eventually leads to good things for her. She's a sweet gal.
[QUOTE=Cherny;3441882]Is this the Jessica you are referring to? : [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8712-News-and-Media-Reports&p=3304346&viewfull=1#post3304346[/URL].
See this post and ones preceeding it.[/QUOTE]
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Megan from city girls
[URL]www.city-girls.com[/URL] Look for Megan in Columbus (sorry I can't link from my phone). Anyhow, she is in town Sunday. Pros- nice tits and ass, great sensual kisser. Slow DFK. Nice mish and doggie. Nice eyes and skin. Negatives- no CG, has had recent knee surgery and has scars to show. Acted kinda bitchy. While in mish I gave her a few extra hard pumps for that LOL. She likes things slow. Overall pleased did not feel like BBBJ or DATY. I was only good for 1 pop.
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CG is dead now, I can see new faces @ XO. Kira is going to be here for next 2 days.
[QUOTE=SilverBullett2;3442957][URL]www.city-girls.com[/URL] Look for Megan in Columbus (sorry I can't link from my phone). Anyhow, she is in town Sunday. Pros- nice tits and ass, great sensual kisser. Slow DFK. Nice mish and doggie. Nice eyes and skin. Negatives- no CG, has had recent knee surgery and has scars to show. Acted kinda bitchy. While in mish I gave her a few extra hard pumps for that LOL. She likes things slow. Overall pleased did not feel like BBBJ or DATY. I was only good for 1 pop.[/QUOTE]
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I've had pretty good luck with city-girls. I will have to try XO, although they look a little more expensive. One of the gals coming from XO in July used to be on city-girls as Emelda:
[URL]https://www.xocompanions.com/anitta/[/URL]
I'm sure they go back and forth for the $$.
[QUOTE=CoolRayat86;3443023]CG is dead now, I can see new faces @ XO. Kira is going to be here for next 2 days.[/QUOTE]
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That is true, for regular members its $$$ on weekend.
[QUOTE=SilverBullett2;3443449]I've had pretty good luck with city-girls. I will have to try XO, although they look a little more expensive. One of the gals coming from XO in July used to be on city-girls as Emelda:
[URL]https://www.xocompanions.com/anitta/[/URL]
I'm sure they go back and forth for the $$.[/QUOTE]
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Looking
Ria, anyone? 39, big titts, in all the right places. Advts on INDY drk.
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Ria
I can definitely recommend Ria, but I'm not sure she is still active.
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;3444021]Ria, anyone? 39, big titts, in all the right places. Advts on INDY drk.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;3444021]Ria, anyone? 39, big titts, in all the right places. Advts on INDY drk.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link to her ad? I checked over there because a Ria used to advertise there last year that I saw. Not sure if it's the same one though.
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Got it
[QUOTE=SpaSearcher;3444511]Do you have a link to her ad? I checked over there because a Ria used to advertise there last year that I saw. Not sure if it's the same one though.[/QUOTE]Reached out to her, nothing yet? Maybe she isn't working anymore, will see. Thanks. Drk.
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RI RI aka Ria
[QUOTE=SpaSearcher;3444511]Do you have a link to her ad? I checked over there because a Ria used to advertise there last year that I saw. Not sure if it's the same one though.[/QUOTE]I had enquired about her a few months ago regarding a post on an indys forum, that said she would not be providing any more: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8710-Escort-Reviews&p=3303275&viewfull=1#post3303275[/URL] I can no longer read that thread. If anyone is able to I'd like to know if there were any follow ups and what they said.
Here is the most recent ad I could find: [URL]https://myproviderguide.com/ohio/columbus/escorts/7682787[/URL]
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Trolling
After a few days I can see that Columbus providers are on the higher end of the food chain in cost!200,250,300) hour! Making a poor decision could be very costly! This is going to require a lot more studying, and probing of the market for the best providers, massage girls, in Columbus. I will say, I am surprised by all the" help my brothers" have PMed to me. (15 pms) That being said, I would also like to say (why): most no phone, address, just a name)? And yes I can read post, turn pages! When I give a" nod" on a provider to someone, I supply more info, helps a out of "town-er" when your limited on time in a city, if you don't want, can't, give all the info, why give it at all? ! Well now I feel better. Be safe, thanks drk.
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Ria (Ri Ri Ohio Girl)
[QUOTE=Cherny;3444655]I had enquired about her a few months ago regarding a post on an indys forum, that said she would not be providing any more: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8710-Escort-Reviews&p=3303275&viewfull=1#post3303275[/URL] I can no longer read that thread. If anyone is able to I'd like to know if there were any follow ups and what they said.
Here is the most recent ad I could find: [URL]https://myproviderguide.com/ohio/columbus/escorts/7682787[/URL][/QUOTE]Has passed away. Can't reveal further details, but anyone who knew her real name -- her obit is online.
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[QUOTE=SilverBullett2;3443449]I've had pretty good luck with city-girls. I will have to try XO, although they look a little more expensive. One of the gals coming from XO in July used to be on city-girls as Emelda:
[URL]https://www.xocompanions.com/anitta/[/URL]
I'm sure they go back and forth for the $$.[/QUOTE]Dear God her body is just incredible to me. I really regretted not seeing her when she came through with c-g a few months ago. I really hope she does go back to them, cause I can't really do weekends and that extra $ is something I doubt I'd do anyway.
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Demi from city-girls
Anyone have experience with Demi? I scheduled for Monday, but I saw an recent review on their site saying she wasn't really GFE and not "city girls good. " Wondering if I should cancel and see if I can make Megan work later this month instead.
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Cass fallout
I've been out of the BP scene for quite a while now because of Cass. I sometimes see new providers but always go back to Cass. I'm literally mesmerized by her tits. Each time I see them I'm in heaven. Now I have been having a great time with her despite all her shortcomings, which anyone here who has seen her knows.
Anyway I am about an hour and a half outside of Columbus and she knows this and has always been respectful of this fact. This time was different. I could tell by her texts that she was either full boat in to her activity or just about to partake. I still drove up there. I get there and tell her I'm there. She says her "mom" just arrived and we could do a car date. Fuck. Having drove all the way I said ok that is fine. I'm in the parking lot and tell her to come out and she ghosts me. I'm waiting there and a neighbor comes out and starts eyeballing my car. I ask her again to come out so we can leave. This neighbor isn't leaving and is just hanging over the porch fence staring at me. Without hearing from her for 20 minutes, I just leave. Three hours wasted and nothing to show for it.
I know I'm a jr member, but if anyone can throw someone Cass like my way, I'd be more than thankful. If you ever find yourself about an hour south of Columbus, I can give you a couple good names.
Thanks.
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I haven't see Demi, but I was thinking of it too. I did see Megan. She is YMMV. We had slow, sensual LFK / DFK that lasted a while. But I couldn't touch her hair. Weird. Also no CG due to recent knee surgery, but had no problem doing doggie or mish. He body is good, but her nose is a little weird looking--pretty face though.
[QUOTE=BartMartin;3456546]Anyone have experience with Demi? I scheduled for Monday, but I saw an recent review on their site saying she wasn't really GFE and not "city girls good. " Wondering if I should cancel and see if I can make Megan work later this month instead.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ForEvrAlone;3459547]I've been out of the BP scene for quite a while now because of Cass. I sometimes see new providers but always go back to Cass. I'm literally mesmerized by her tits. Each time I see them I'm in heaven. Now I have been having a great time with her despite all her shortcomings, which anyone here who has seen her knows.
Anyway I am about an hour and a half outside of Columbus and she knows this and has always been respectful of this fact. This time was different. I could tell by her texts that she was either full boat in to her activity or just about to partake. I still drove up there. I get there and tell her I'm there. She says her "mom" just arrived and we could do a car date. Fuck. Having drove all the way I said ok that is fine. I'm in the parking lot and tell her to come out and she ghosts me. I'm waiting there and a neighbor comes out and starts eyeballing my car. I ask her again to come out so we can leave. This neighbor isn't leaving and is just hanging over the porch fence staring at me. Without hearing from her for 20 minutes, I just leave. Three hours wasted and nothing to show for it.
I know I'm a jr member, but if anyone can throw someone Cass like my way, I'd be more than thankful. If you ever find yourself about an hour south of Columbus, I can give you a couple good names.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen Cass up close and personal for a while but judging by her FB pics her body has lost a lot of its luster.
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Cass. What to do?
[QUOTE=ForEvrAlone;3459547]I've been out of the BP scene for quite a while now because of Cass. I sometimes see new providers but always go back to Cass. I'm literally mesmerized by her tits. Each time I see them I'm in heaven. Now I have been having a great time with her despite all her shortcomings, which anyone here who has seen her knows.
Anyway I am about an hour and a half outside of Columbus and she knows this and has always been respectful of this fact. This time was different. I could tell by her texts that she was either full boat in to her activity or just about to partake. I still drove up there. I get there and tell her I'm there. She says her "mom" just arrived and we could do a car date. Fuck. Having drove all the way I said ok that is fine. I'm in the parking lot and tell her to come out and she ghosts me. I'm waiting there and a neighbor comes out and starts eyeballing my car. I ask her again to come out so we can leave. This neighbor isn't leaving and is just hanging over the porch fence staring at me. Without hearing from her for 20 minutes, I just leave. Three hours wasted and nothing to show for it.
I know I'm a jr member, but if anyone can throw someone Cass like my way, I'd be more than thankful. If you ever find yourself about an hour south of Columbus, I can give you a couple good names.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've written about Cass many times in this forum. Others have too. There is nothing to do. You cannot control her mind. She's a very strange girl with some mental problems. To no avail, I've tried teaching her not to do certain behaviors which truly annoy me, such as interrupting the BJ to tell me something stupid that crept into her mind. "My cat peed on the carpet today". Last time I saw her, she left her apartment semi-naked in the middle of the night and started yelling my name at the top of her lungs. Agggh. I was convinced that would attract unwanted neighborly attention. Psychologists would say she is lacking in her "central governor". This causes her be impulsive and not think about the consequences of her actions. It probably contributes to why she is a wildcat in bed. But it also makes her too flakey for me to see again.
All you can do with any of these girls is weigh up the pros and cons. If she rocks your world in the sack, and you can tolerate her many idiosyncrasies, then see her again. Otherwise do as I have done and block her number.
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[QUOTE=SilverBullett2;3459645]I haven't see Demi, but I was thinking of it too. I did see Megan. She is YMMV. We had slow, sensual LFK / DFK that lasted a while. But I couldn't touch her hair. Weird. Also no CG due to recent knee surgery, but had no problem doing doggie or mish. He body is good, but her nose is a little weird looking--pretty face though.[/QUOTE]Well I canceled with Demi last week, but earlier this morning I thought, eh I'll do it. So I re-scheduled and all was good. But eventually they came back and said it was too short of a notice and offered a different time that I couldn't do. So I canceled again. Eh. Figure I'm only missing out on a probably mediocre experience.
I'll probably pass on Megan too cause I'm not liking some of what I'm reading. I'm to the point where it's either going to be a great experience overall, or nothing. I'll wait for the next crop of City Girls, or wait to see who rolls through from Red Tease.
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One coming August is Anika:
[URL]https://www.city-girls.com/oh/columbus/escorts/visiting/anika.html[/URL]
Some didn't like her, but I really did--very sweet GFE. One of the best set of tits I've enjoyed with city-girls.
[QUOTE=BartMartin;3462549]Well I canceled with Demi last week, but earlier this morning I thought, eh I'll do it. So I re-scheduled and all was good. But eventually they came back and said it was too short of a notice and offered a different time that I couldn't do. So I canceled again. Eh. Figure I'm only missing out on a probably mediocre experience.
I'll probably pass on Megan too cause I'm not liking some of what I'm reading. I'm to the point where it's either going to be a great experience overall, or nothing. I'll wait for the next crop of City Girls, or wait to see who rolls through from Red Tease.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SilverBullett2;3462719]One coming August is Anika:
[URL]https://www.city-girls.com/oh/columbus/escorts/visiting/anika.html[/URL]
Some didn't like her, but I really did--very sweet GFE. One of the best set of tits I've enjoyed with city-girls.[/QUOTE]I didn't care for Anika's looks. I actually walked out on her and cancelled. Perhaps I missed out on a nice experience, but her face was below average in my opinion and she had braces. Her body looked ok but I could get past her face. It was my first experience with the agency so I had to pay full price, and I didn't think she was worth it. Especially since an 18-year-old OSU student I met on SA literally texted me as I was pulling into the hotel parking lot, so I had a solid alternative.
I decided I'd rather spend the whole evening with my sb for 200 than an hour with Anika for 350.
I'd like to give city-girls another shot since I love Russian women. But the heavy retouching and blurred faces on the photos is holding me back.
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Visiting Tomorrow (7/11)
Hello Gents,
My apologies on the short notice but I will be staying overnight in your city tomorrow. Close to I-70 in downtiwn. Looking for a referral or two that would come to me. I'm mostly into MILFs, PSE and prefer a large chest.
If you know anyone with reasonable rates that fits my bill, please PM her info, including phone number if possible.
Thanks in advance.
Capt.
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Cass uodatw
[QUOTE=FolkArt;3459991]I've written about Cass many times in this forum. Others have too. There is nothing to do. You cannot control her mind. She's a very strange girl with some mental problems. To no avail, I've tried teaching her not to do certain behaviors which truly annoy me, such as interrupting the BJ to tell me something stupid that crept into her mind. "My cat peed on the carpet today". Last time I saw her, she left her apartment semi-naked in the middle of the night and started yelling my name at the top of her lungs. Agggh. I was convinced that would attract unwanted neighborly attention. Psychologists would say she is lacking in her "central governor". This causes her be impulsive and not think about the consequences of her actions. It probably contributes to why she is a wildcat in bed. But it also makes her too flakey for me to see again.
All you can do with any of these girls is weigh up the pros and cons. If she rocks your world in the sack, and you can tolerate her many idiosyncrasies, then see her again. Otherwise do as I have done and block her number.[/QUOTE]She now has a male roommate and another dog (boxer) living with her in her 1 bedroom apt. All activity now takes place on the couch. I also have more info regarding her sexual health but can't post due to it being on record although it was passed on to me.
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MILFs
[QUOTE=CaptStabbn;3463342]Hello Gents,
My apologies on the short notice but I will be staying overnight in your city tomorrow. Close to I-70 in downtiwn. Looking for a referral or two that would come to me. I'm mostly into MILFs, PSE and prefer a large chest.
If you know anyone with reasonable rates that fits my bill, please PM her info, including phone number if possible.
Thanks in advance.
Capt.[/QUOTE]In 2017 in the Columbus BP section, I have reviewed a few excellent older providers including Diana, Braylie, and Krista. In addition CiCi is very classy. If those four, Krista had the biggest chest.
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I was looking through usaadultclassifieds, backpage, indys and TER and I really didn't find many ladies I would call. I miss the old TBD, ohiospice and **** days when Bridget, Kelly and I forget Kelly's friend's name that had an agency. There were lots of pretty good looking young ladies, both agency girls and independent ladies like MacKenzie, Jennifer Morgan and a bunch of others around. I imagine ladies like that are out there today. Even a few years ago, there were some better looking ladies on indys and BP. They seem to have vanished.