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If they really cared or thought there was a problem even though things are "legal" indoors, if they had an ounce of worry that there was trafficking going on then they could go in and make sure that everyone was legal.

There doesn't seem to be much trouble busting some warehouse using illegals for less than minimum wage.

I guess as long as taxes are getting paid it doesn't matter?

Personally I would be sick to find out that any of the girls there were forced into doing anything against their will.

[QUOTE=Chd86]Personally I would be sick to find out that any of the girls there were forced into doing anything against their will.[/QUOTE]Over the last month or so, I've taken two session with Cindy at Lily's. I don't recommend her, by the way. She worked hard, but she was so rough and mechanical that the endings were, for me, not so happy. If you need someone to operate a butter churn for you, though, you could not do better.

Anyway, she was grumpy the second time (as I was, eventually), and complained bitterly about her life: learning English, working so many hours, not enough rest. I finally asked her why she did it, and she said that her father is I'll, and that where he is, no money == no doctor. She seemed matter-of-fact about it. It seemed like a responsibility that she accepted (even though she wasn't happy right then about her circumstances).

Is that slavery? It seems more like "wage slavery" to me. If she has no skills and therefore no other way to make money, and the choice was between coming to America and jerking guys off or letting her father die, maybe she felt compelled to make the trip. A hard choice. But still *her* choice.

[QUOTE=Chd86]If they really cared or thought there was a problem even though things are "legal" indoors, if they had an ounce of worry that there was trafficking going on then they could go in and make sure that everyone was legal.

There doesn't seem to be much trouble busting some warehouse using illegals for less than minimum wage.

I guess as long as taxes are getting paid it doesn't matter?

Personally I would be sick to find out that any of the girls there were forced into doing anything against their will.[/QUOTE]I could not agree with you more. Speaking with the girls, I have found that all of the ones I have spoken with are in the country legally, well, at least legal to the letter of the law. The latest one I spoke with told me she had her green card and is in the country as an art student. I am going to presume that the others have similar stories. The owners want the girls to be legal. Further, to a person, they all tell me they have family and send money home to support them. Does not sound like coercion to me, except, sadly, by poverty.

[/quote]personally i would be sick to find out that any of the girls there were forced into doing anything against their will.[/quote]


same here! if these girls are being forced to perform they all should get emmy awards for best actress. i have never met any girl in an amp who showed any sense of being forced! if they are being forced or **** i would be the first in line to help close their doors and send the bastards to jail! consenting is fine, being forced is a whole other story!

Hey guys,

I'm from Ma.

Drove down to 1 spa and saw June. After reading a report on her.

Sweet looking girl nice body but a flat butt.

Great table bath,decent massage but wanted way to much $ for everything.

I was so disappointed after driving an hour. Got my HE and left. Could have gotten that in Ma.

I live in Boston, but Pleasant Street SPA is RI in my favorite place, the drive can be long, So I end up going to Quincy. I notice that Pleasant Street no longer adversities at the Boston Phoenix, Are they still in Business and they have same Quality of Girls?

i agree also with what muffy is saying, i dated a girl from an for a long time, and i asked her the question. she said a large amount work to send money home to help the family as korea is expensive, and there is a lot of poor. also she notice the cloths, handbags, and cars in flushing ny. 99% are louise, coach, bmw, and other high end brands.

you gotta look at whre else in us can you make 800-1000 a day in a good market/amp tax free. you will also notice they are only around 3-6 weeks at a time then they may be back or not. but they like to take vacations and spen money. the girl i dated's family in ny thought she was a manager of nail salon in providence.....

[quote=muffythediver][/quote]personally i would be sick to find out that any of the girls there were forced into doing anything against their will.[/quote]


same here! if these girls are being forced to perform they all should get emmy awards for best actress. i have never met any girl in an amp who showed any sense of being forced! if they are being forced or **** i would be the first in line to help close their doors and send the bastards to jail! consenting is fine, being forced is a whole other story![/quote]

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]I could not agree with you more. Speaking with the girls, I have found that all of the ones I have spoken with are in the country legally, well, at least legal to the letter of the law. The latest one I spoke with told me she had her green card and is in the country as an art student. I am going to presume that the others have similar stories. The owners want the girls to be legal. Further, to a person, they all tell me they have family and send money home to support them. Does not sound like coercion to me, except, sadly, by poverty.[/QUOTE]

It is not different than those from Guatemala that come here work as laborers on the construction sites and send money home or the Haitians that work washing dishes or as maids.
Everyone that comes to and is from this country cannot be a high paid executive or doctor.

Most of us that are frequenting to AMPs jump the gun with FS tips at $120 / $140 at the top places (1021, OS, CH, DT - IMHO!). Of course the girls are not going to hand us back money if we overtip, or let us know in advance expected tip prices have gone down.

So, the question is - did you all of the sudden start tipping less?


[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]Been reading and adding for some time and I am seeing a growing trend developing which excites me.

It appears that $160.00 seems to be the magic number these days for a f/s experience at a number of places. I guess $150.00 with the coupon or internet coupon discounts.

I have personally not paid over $160.00 in a while and am very prepared to walk out if that can only buy me a hag.

The next course of action is to make that standard at CH and the new DT. Then, its $90 at Lilly's for the rub and tug, and other R & T places as well.

This is exciting and seeing it in more and more posts is actually moving pricing lower to where it should be. Now, if the owners would just open up another 10 places of so, perhaps a C note would do the whole thing, house included.

A shitty economy does have its upside![/QUOTE]

I had some time to kill, so I checked out Sundance. Thought about One spa, but the shorter drive to Sundance was attractive.

Pepsi, pesci, something like that. Nice TS, plenty of time in the right places. Massage was abougt 4 minutes. Sauna was nice on a cold day.

She started in with the tease and how much money I had. Told me 180 for F/s, 140 for CBJ. I only had 140, so I pleaded. She seemed to just understand enough english to deal with the task at hand. The haggle was a real turn off.

We did our thing. Her breath was bad.

I have had much better experiences at the old DT and CH.

Funny thing, the next day I was at the grocery store and I got a wiff of her breath, then I realized I was walking behind a Korean, I think, guy and he smelled like she did. I laughed.

Probably will not go back to Sundance.

[QUOTE=Ampdude 2003]So, the question is. Did you all of the sudden start tipping less? [/QUOTE]Over a year ago, JJ's on Reservoir had some pretty hot ladies in. On my first visit, I was essentially told the menu of pricing: HJ: $40.00 BJ: $80.00 and F/S: $100.00. With the house, that comes to $160. 00 for the total visit including house and tip to be absolutely clear.

I paid this amount, right up to the time the talent rotated out to another location. IMHO, it presented a value at the time.

Following from this, I have worked Reservoir avenue with the same pricing. When in the mood, I hit JJ's, Tea Rose and now Diamond. They are all on the same stretch of road. Last time at Diamond, she tried to upsell and I told her that is what they charge up the street and she backed right down to the offered amount. I have not tried to beat the house fee down yet, but will next time. $50.00 is plenty for an hour, IMHO.

I believe the threat of leaving, or worse, paying the house, using up the hour, with no allowed upsell and zero tip, will scare the provider to lower to the offered level. The problem is that many guys simply pony it up without even trying to work the price down.

Hope that this helps.

I was an overtipper when I started out a few years back. Not being very local, I was a kid in a candy store when visiting your fine city (even throwing good money after bad at Cheaters in addition to my high quality Custom House visits). So the AMP tip was 160. Very foolish in retrospect because it hurts comrades to do that. I went to 140 and quickly tested the 120 level. This was easier before girls started discussing the amount prior to the deed. I would just place the tip on the table afterward and that was it. So here's a method that has worked well and which can entirely evade a discussion on the tip: after she takes the house fee and disappears, put your tip on the table in full view. Make sure a Jackson or two is on top, and maybe a few Hamiltons in there to fluff up the pile and let her know this is not a HJ visit. In several cases this has prevented all discussion of tip and type of service. She just did her routine. If they count it after and ask for more, tell her its all you have (standard practice) and tell her how great she is and you can't wait see her again, blah, blah. If she counts it before and has anything to say about it that is downer. If she appears steadfast in any way, tell her you want a HJ (and she'll be out eighty bucks). Anyway, any pre-deed discussion of tip is a downer to me. Another thing is if you really short a girl because you scram before she counts it, then you are cultivating the girl's need to negotiate in advance. Don't rip them off.

My question to my comrades is: am I still overpaying at 120 tip for the quality AMPs? If I leave 100 and she doesn't it count it until after I leave will she she perceive that as being ripped off, or just that she wished I was more of a sucker? I often wonder if reports of lower amount are simply boasts or based on visits to CT AMPs, etc . . ..

Our common mission should be to brings prices down without enduring negotiations that puts a damper on the experience.

[QUOTE=Ampdude 2003] the girls are not going to hand us back money if we overtip, or let us know in advance expected tip prices have gone down.

So, the question is - did you all of the sudden start tipping less?[/QUOTE]

I assume the $160 referenced is a FS tip in a addition to the house fee, and that the $90 at lilly's is the tip and house fee combined? If that is not the case there is only a ten dollar difference. Let's all be clear so we can help set market prices accordingly.

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]Been reading and adding for some time and I am seeing a growing trend developing which excites me.

It appears that $160.00 seems to be the magic number these days for a f/s experience at a number of places. I guess $150.00 with the coupon or internet coupon discounts.

I have personally not paid over $160.00 in a while and am very prepared to walk out if that can only buy me a hag.

The next course of action is to make that standard at CH and the new DT. Then, its $90 at Lilly's for the rub and tug, and other R & T places as well.

This is exciting and seeing it in more and more posts is actually moving pricing lower to where it should be. Now, if the owners would just open up another 10 places of so, perhaps a C note would do the whole thing, house included.

A shitty economy does have its upside![/QUOTE]

First time reporter. Long time reader.

I live in MA and have been going to AMPs in Prov. For about 3 years now, ever since one of my buddies moved down there for college. I have always been a strong supporter of Lily's and haven't ventured beyond there very often (tried Wanskunk once; wasn't impressed). But after reading these forums for quite a while I decided it was time to step my game up and try some FS.

So, me and a couple of friends that I introduced to the monger scene decided to take a dirt tour last night and hoped on 146 with a list of AMPs and strip clubs plugged into the Nav.

First stop was Club Fantasies. Ten dollar cover to get in, got a couple drinks 5 bucks a piece, through some singles at the girls on stage downstairs before heading upstairs to get hit with another 10 dollar cover. We had a couple more drinks while watching the fully nude girls on stage (downstairs is apparently only topless and does not have private rooms). One girl caught my eye (didn't catch her name but she had a mighty mouse tattoo on her right ass cheek). She asked me if I would like a dance and I asked her how much. 30 bucks for dance on one of the couches that are against the wall, pretty much exposed to the rest of the club, or 130 bucks for 15 minutes in one of the private rooms along that back wall. She then proceeded to tell me that was just the house fee and I passed and we left.

Next mission was a little recon of the new DT which hasn't had many reports yet. The Nav brought us to the address I had for it (385 S. Main St.) but we didn't see any signs of any sort to identify the place from the street and there wasn't any parking to be had; Saturday night in a nice section of town probably had something to do with it. I did, however, call and the mama and she confirmed that they were open but only had two girls working. We needed three unless we were going to double up on one LOL.

So we continued on our way to One Spa, which after a call confirmed there were 5 girls on. I don't think it could be in a better location for anyone coming from MA down 146, it is literally right off the Atwells Ave. Exit in the Italian section that has all the restaurants. We parked right outside the door and walked down the st. To hit the ATM and grab another drink before going in.

Walked through the glass door on the side of the building that has the number 55 on it and headed to the third floor. We rang the bell and the mama immediately opened the door and looked surprised to see three of us standing there (most people must roll solo on these missions but I always find it more fun to go with friends. It makes for some good laughs on the ride home and for good stories for later on). She brought us down the hall into one of the rooms. There were a couple chairs and a mattress on the floor. Might have been one of the rooms the girls take naps in? Anyway the mama grills us for about 10 minutes checking our IDs, asking how we heard about the place, so on and so forth. I told her a friend of mine told me it was a good place and that we had been to other places in the area many times. She calmed down and eventually brought two girls in. I picked the better looking one and one of friends took the other while the third waited for another girl to finish.

Another interesting note to make is that when you go as a group the girls seem to be more playful and fun like its some sort of party in the hallway as you pass each other in the hallways from the sauna to the TS slapping high fives. Seems to lighten the mood IMHO.

Sorry for all the build up, if you've read this far this is what you've been waiting for:

Paid the 60 for the house fee once in the room and she left for a couple minutes while I undressed. It was a little cold in the room and my twig and berries were obviously showing the result. We she came back in she must have noticed and asked, "Cold? " and turned the space heater on.

We then headed to the sauna for a few minutes. I'm not a fan of baking and it was excessively hot in there. She sat with me the whole time and we made some small talk or tried to at least, her English was less that spectacular. Once the TS was free we headed in. She hit all the right spots taking care to soap up my ass really good. Was expecting some rimmage after reading other reports of this similar practice.

Back to the room after a quick rest stop in the pisser. I'd been drinking. She tells me to lay down and begins a pretty good massage, not as good as Lily's but decent. She asks how hard and I say medium. This goes on for maybe 5 minutes or so until she starts with some slow teasing and blowing on my back and ass crack. She starts rubbing her buddy up and down my back and whispers in my ear with a nibble, "what you want? , " I reply "everything, " she says "OK, I be right back. " She leaves for a couple minutes to get the supplies.

I'm expecting some rimming mind you after the excessive ass washing but instead she tells me to roll over and she begins a CBJ instead, slightly disappointing because I wanted to see what that was all about but whatever the CBJ was good and I wouldn't have known it was covered if I hadn't looked down. I'm at about half mast now. The drinks have taken their toll so I close my eyes and try to focus. Once I'm at about 80% she climbs on for some CG which started out slow but I wasted about to just sit there and let her go at her own speed so I began a steady upward thrust that I don't think she was prepared for and quickly asked to change positions LOL.

We then go into some missionary and again I start a heavy pound, which she attempts to thwart with her hand bracing my stomach. This slightly annoys me because in order for my to feel anything with a rubber on I need to get into it. I ask her to roll over for some doggy and she complies. I go slow because I know if there is anytime that I'm going to hurt her by going to hard it would be in this position so I make up for it by spreading her cheeks and checking out her asshole which while she reached under and rubbed my balls. Best view and feeling of the session.

Again it must have been hurting her and after a few minutes of this she pulls away and asks if she can finish me off with just an HJ. I asked her what was wrong and she said it was too big. I call BS on this because I was at 80% tops on the boner meter. However, I say OK and she finishes me off with a rapid tug which felt nice and provided for a nice explosion.

Total damage 200. 60 to the house. 140 for her. I know everyone on here has been talking about trying to lower the prices but I was half cocked and wasn't in the mood for negotiations. Sorry.

Overall a pretty good time even though there was no rimming or DATY, which I assumed were standard at this establishment. However, both of my friends did receive a light rimming and one did indulge in some DATY. I guess it depends on the girl. Also I didn't catch her name but she was def. The prettiest of the three. I'd give her an 8/10 on the AMP scale. The other two girls were each a solid 7/10, one's name was June my friend later told me, I believe she's been reported on.

Happy Hobbying

[QUOTE=Catnibbler]Hey guys,

I'm from Ma.

Drove down to 1 spa and saw June. After reading a report on her.

Sweet looking girl nice body but a flat butt.

Great table bath,decent massage but wanted way to much $ for everything.

I was so disappointed after driving an hour. Got my HE and left. Could have gotten that in Ma.[/QUOTE]

Read your disappointing report on June at One Spa. I reread the report that you referenced on June. Yes she did want 1.6 vs the usual 1.4 but when told that all the poster had was 1.4 she relented and he had a great session. Since your report was very sketchy and didn't mention prices or any other specifics I don't know what exactly happened. But you should have had this donation info before you went there. You did mention however that you got your HE and left. I'm guessing (and hoping) that you didn't go there for a HE only. If that was the case then it was no wonder that you left disappointed. These girls are expecting FS (or 1.4) from their customers and if they run across one who only wants a HE then they are out that money. And yes the almighty dollar is what they are after. There are places that the girls are happy with giving out HE's (and the corresponding tip) that you should go to if that is what you want. And more specifics on the review would be help. Have fun and be safe. And welcome to the board. SO

[QUOTE=Samo123]I live in Boston, but Pleasant Street SPA is RI in my favorite place, the drive can be long, So I end up going to Quincy. I notice that Pleasant Street no longer adversities at the Boston Phoenix, Are they still in Business and they have same Quality of Girls?[/QUOTE]

Yes pleasant St is still around and advertises daily on CL. (search for Pawtucket as their other info within their post and may not show on search) I don't know about the girls as I haven't been there in awhile. Hopeful someone else can let you know who is there, what they offer and how good it is. How about some Quincy info for a fellow So Shore gent! I'm always looking for good places there other than Tina and Angel. Thanks SO

[QUOTE=Cosmic Slop]I had some time to kill, so I checked out Sundance. Thought about One spa, but the shorter drive to Sundance was attractive.

Pepsi, pesci, something like that. Nice TS, plenty of time in the right places. Massage was abougt 4 minutes. Sauna was nice on a cold day.

She started in with the tease and how much money I had. Told me 180 for F/s, 140 for CBJ. I only had 140, so I pleaded. She seemed to just understand enough english to deal with the task at hand. The haggle was a real turn off.

We did our thing. Her breath was bad.

I have had much better experiences at the old DT and CH.

Funny thing, the next day I was at the grocery store and I got a wiff of her breath, then I realized I was walking behind a Korean, I think, guy and he smelled like she did. I laughed.

Probably will not go back to Sundance.[/QUOTE]

This is where I (and we) should just walk out. The price has been 1.4 for ages with some trying for 1.6. If someone asked me for 1.8 I would say thanks and just walk. If worse came to worse and she didn't relent and I walked then I got a nice TS, Sauna and baby massage for .6 and no tip. My guess is that these girls knowing that they already had 30 minutes invested would relent. The econony sucks and the price should be going down instead of up! SO

[QUOTE=Strike2] put your tip on the table in full view. Make sure a Jackson or two is on top, and maybe a few Hamiltons in there to fluff up the pile and let her know this is not a HJ visit. In several cases this has prevented all discussion of tip and type of service. She just did her routine. If they count it after and ask for more, tell her its all you have (standard practice) and tell her how great she is and you can't wait see her again, blah, blah. If she counts it before and has anything to say about it that is downer. If she appears steadfast in any way, tell her you want a HJ (and she'll be out eighty bucks). Anyway, any pre-deed discussion of tip is a downer to me.
Our common mission should be to brings prices down without enduring negotiations that puts a damper on the experience.[/QUOTE]

I agree that discussion of the tip is a downer. I do have one question about your method however. if she is steadfast as you said and you tell her you just want a HE then how do you get the money back without causing a fuss. She has already picked it up and counted it. All she has to do is put it someplace and your out of luck. My guess would be that she wouldn't give it back without a fuss and I don't know of a 'safe' way to get it back. But I could be wrong. SO

1st visit to DT. Parked right out front. It was like a ghost town. Everyone probably watching Steelers-Ravens, and it was snowing. I thought I would take advantage of the snow, knowing the place would be all mine. There was a car with Novia Scotia plates also in front, and I had a monger to monger encounter as I was getting ready for the Sauna( 50ish guy with glasses).

Anyway, let me back up. Big Mama lets me in, and I ask for a lineup and to see girls. She doesn't say a word, and leads me to a room. Not very friendly, this Mamasan, and butt ugly(sorry if your reading this Mama, just giving the facts). I undress and in walks Jasmine, about 35 maybe, average body, petite, A cups, red bikini under hot white shorts. Collects the house fee .60 and leaves for a minute. I relax on table, in comes Jasmine now with her hair up. I thought it was a different girl and ask her name again and she says Jasmine(Homer Simspon "DOI") We head to sauna, she opens door, and there is a fellow monger in there. We lock eyes and she ushes me back to room for a light massage. Massage skills are average(not as good as girls at One). Back to sauna for 10 minutes, then to TW.

TW was ok, not spectacular, but I was skeaky clean. Hit all the cracks, and washed my clean-shaved balls good. Back to sauna, then back to room for more massage. Maybe a 10 minute massge(with baby oil), again average at best. Then the tease, and the question we all wait for, "What you want?"

Everything I say, she leaves to get supplies. I'm still on my stomach when she comes back, and she gets on top of me and starts kissing my legs and ass, and then tongues my ahole pretty good actually, felt pretty good, nice rimming. BBBJ for a bit, some ball licking and sucking(why I shaved before I got there), slipped condo on and rode CG for a a few minutes, finished up doggie. It felt a little robotic, was hoping for more sensual exp. I tried some daty, but was denied. She said next time, which I don't think there will be.

Massage= 6.008
Looks = 7.003
Body = 7.001
Attitude = 6.0
Extras = 7.5(would of been 6 if not for her tongue on my third eye)
Mamsan = as Dean Wormer says to Belushi in Animal House, "zero point zero"

tip $.40 To the proprieters of DT:

"Get some young chicks that will sit on my face while munching on my clean shaved balls!!"

LUVDAMP

[QUOTE=Catnibbler]Hey guys,

I'm from Ma.

Drove down to 1 spa and saw June. After reading a report on her.

Sweet looking girl nice body but a flat butt.

Great table bath,decent massage but wanted way to much $ for everything.

I was so disappointed after driving an hour. Got my HE and left. Could have gotten that in Ma.[/QUOTE]I'm confused, CN.

Above you state that you read the reviews (and assume you've read others reports) but you entered a multiple-reviewed F/S est, as a new client, and tried to downsell the provider (or refused 'reported' rates beyond the $10-20 haggle they expect).

In my travels (and speaking with the girls), I've been told that mongers who do this absolutely will not get the desired attitude (GFE) and will be hustled out. Also some of the girls told me they talk amongst themselves and have excellent memories when it comes to money which is what your f*cking with.

But, my main confusion is 'flat butt' on June?

Must be a BBW chaser 'cause that ass aint flat!

[QUOTE=Stressed Out]I agree that discussion of the tip is a downer. I do have one question about your method however. if she is steadfast as you said and you tell her you just want a HE then how do you get the money back without causing a fuss. She has already picked it up and counted it. All she has to do is put it someplace and your out of luck. My guess would be that she wouldn't give it back without a fuss and I don't know of a 'safe' way to get it back. But I could be wrong. SO[/QUOTE]

The answer to that is simple, never give them money until the session is over.

[QUOTE=Stressed Out]I agree that discussion of the tip is a downer. I do have one question about your method however. If she is steadfast as you said and you tell her you just want a HE then how do you get the money back without causing a fuss. She has already picked it up and counted it. All she has to do is put it someplace and your out of luck. My guess would be that she wouldn't give it back without a fuss and I don't know of a 'safe' way to get it back. But I could be wrong. SO[/QUOTE]While I like the idea of placing the cash in plain sight, I usually don't do that. I pay the house fee of $60 upfront (as do we all, except for the sap's who pay $70 for the whole 60 mins (LOL. It would be my last visit there as the fee, presently ranges from 50 to 60 for an hour, a whole hour, period). Sadly, the reality of the fact, especially with a girl who does not know you, is there is some degree of discussion ranging from specific numbers for specific deeds down to the proverbial "you take care of me, right? "

As I have stated, I am usually there for a f/s visit and if my available cash of $150 to $160 is not enough to achieve that, I pass all service and she can rub for an hour for the house money of $60.

I had a bad experience at Sundance a long time ago, and since the session was not going well at all, I passed all service and continued the massage. She tried to get rid of me in 45 as there was no cash in it for her for an extra. I refused to leave the table until the hour was over and insisted that she continue to rub, which she did.

There are many ways to pay for educational experiences, this chic just made a tuition payment for her refusal to discuss or accept less. I have had to repeat this experience only twice more, but, I do not exceed my allotment for the experience. So, the chic either accepts what I have to offer, makes a little less, and then moves on, or gets to rub for a WHOLE hour for nada.

Each monger has to get his own MO down pretty pat and yes, it does make a difference if you repeat at a place or not. They do both treat you better and if the same girl, will be more relaxed with you the second and succeeding visits. But, there is no reason for anyone to be taken advantage of and above all, you have to be prepared to walk without any extras. Always remember WHO is in the driver's seat, and its the one holding the cash.

Ok 60 goes to the house right off the bat. Anyone know what the split from the "tip" is between the house and the ma-souse?

I heard from one girl who worked for a escort service that the service took up to 75% of the fees charged.

Just wondering, that's all.

[QUOTE=Gansett]Ok 60 goes to the house right off the bat. Anyone know what the split from the "tip" is between the house and the ma-souse?

I heard from one girl who worked for a escort service that the service took up to 75% of the fees charged.

Just wondering, that's all.[/QUOTE]


I would venture a guess that 100% of the house money goes to the house and probably 50-60% of the tip as well.

I enjoyed all the commentary on "freedom" and slave trade. It's worth noting that Korea and many other countries don't have the same Puritan/Christian hang-ups about sex and providing services. Remember old Japan where Geisha's were upper end in the social hierarchy. I've been to Korea, and workers there have it a million times worse than the SW's at the US AMPs. I imagine, without knowing for sure, it's a much better gig getting $140+ per pop here in the US. I see a couple of regulars and they have no hangups about this line of work.

The kill-joys in the US should consider the cultural differences.- they worry about cultural differences in everything else, right?

And Tipping,

BTW, I'm a good tipper at restaurants, but seldom at the AMP. The standard fees are a pretty good chunk of change for 30 minutes of bumping around. Just MHO. Jck

[QUOTE=Jhonny8770]I'm confused, CN.

Above you state that you read the reviews (and assume you've read others reports) but you entered a multiple-reviewed F/S est, as a new client, and tried to downsell the provider (or refused 'reported' rates beyond the $10-20 haggle they expect).

In my travels (and speaking with the girls), I've been told that mongers who do this absolutely will not get the desired attitude (GFE) and will be hustled out. Also some of the girls told me they talk amongst themselves and have excellent memories when it comes to money which is what your f*cking with.

But, my main confusion is 'flat butt' on June?

Must be a BBW chaser 'cause that ass aint flat![/QUOTE]No need to get upset.

Maybe I misread but I thought I read FS for 90 plus house fee.

And I do think her butt is flat.

Well I have been reading about the "Pink" soapy massage and haven't had one in years, so I headed over to the 1021 today just after noon. Mamasan told me Pink was in but busy. She asked if I would try Suzie. I pretended that I had been there before and said I liked Pink's TS the best. She promised that Suzie would give me the same, so I handed over my $60 and went off to the shower with Suzie.

Suzie is about 5ft, average build and has a great rack, she's a little pudgier than the average K girl, but not fat. I'd give her a 6 for looks. She gives a decent table shower but a bit short on time. Next she takes me to the sauna, which I normally decline, but it was chilly in there and I needed to warm up. Suzie comes in and sits with me while stroking my knee cap. I take her hand and place it on my balls where it should be. She has a nice touch and after a few minutes we head off to my room.

Once again she gives a decent, but way too quick massage, then flips me. At this point I am getting annoyed at the rate at which this session is moving. I tell her more massage and then a HJ. She makes a face like she just swallowed sour milk. Now I'm getting turned off. Basically, I go to these places to buy what I want, a service if you will. Next she asks "how much you pay?". "$40 is say assertively. No she says, $60 here. She haggled a bit too much for my liking. So I stood up and dressed!

At this point she begs ME for a $40 hand job! I stick to my guns, I'm walking (and having fun)! Suzie leaves and comes back with Mamasan. "What wrong", Mamasan asks. I told her that I just was not in the mood to haggle over services, and besides, a HE is $40 all over town and less in some Spas.

Mamasan offers to finish my massage her self. I decline. She then offers to get Pink to finish. Mamasan was apologetic and asked me to come back and see Pink. I promise her that I will.

I really wasn't pissed, but it just felt right to say no and leave. I smiled at Mamasan, said a pleasant goodbye and promised to be back. I suspect my next session will be wonderful.

I should end this post by telling you to avoid Suzie, but I have the feeling that she will be an above average performer for the next guy.

Sr. D.

[QUOTE=Ri Designer]I would venture a guess that 100% of the house money goes to the house and probably 50-60% of the tip as well.[/QUOTE]


Bet this is where the upsell comes into play, if she has to fork over 50% or more. If the house is expecting a certain amount for each customer then the more she can get after the house fee could be hers to keep.

[QUOTE=Ri Designer]I would venture a guess that 100% of the house money goes to the house and probably 50-60% of the tip as well.[/QUOTE]
So what if Daddys lookin comes in (see his report below) and just get the massage with no tip. That means she makes 0 for the hour?

I decided to try this new place last Thursday afternoon. Entrance is located right on Admiral St. , I didn't see any side entrance. Place is pretty nice inside. I was the only one there at the time. I got Coco, there was one other girl I saw on the computer. She must of been Angela as in the previous reports. Coco looked probably late 30s, not as attractive as Angela.

Anyway, TS was bad, she was using some sort of scrubby on a stick. It was awful, I had to tell her to use just her hands when I flipped over. You can't beat the TS you get a Lilys. On to the the room and got a sub-par rub down with massage oil. After the flip, I ask her to remove her clothing and get the "how much you gonna give me? ". God, I hate that shit. I offered 50 and she says no, she wants 60. I say fuck it and agreed to the 60. She removes everything but the thong. After seeing her body, I realized I overpaid. During the HE, sucked her titties and played with the kitty. Wouldn't let the digit inside though. After the clean up, I dressed myself with no help from her. She was more concerned getting the table ready for the next customer. I didn't get a frequent customer card like Stressed Out, nor did I want one. I definitely will not repeat. It's back to Lilys for me.

[QUOTE=Rito1]So what if Daddys lookin comes in (see his report below) and just get the massage with no tip. That means she makes 0 for the hour? [/QUOTE]That, my friend, IS the incentive to not make a scene and to accept as offered. NO ONE on this board knows the split, if there is one and no one knows what percentages goes each way. Ck out the report below by Sr. D.

What would have been the better course of action for Susie (oh, by the way, she's back. Was there with Yung and I had a good time with her). Better to keep the customer and make a little less than to blow them out the door.

As a related aside though, Club 1021 is a FS establishment and looking for a lower level of experience might lead to a similar experience as it was not what the place is known for. IMHO.

Stick to your guns. $100 for FS is plentisimo.

Had some time to kill Friday so I figured I would try the ones who post daily on CL in the therapeutic section with numbers ending in 1934 and 1397. They were offering a $55 "special" for 1 hour.

No answer at 1934, left message, no call back. Got a hispanic woman at 1397 and after several calls got to her place in Warwick.

I got one look and got out of there. I don't want to be mean, but she wasn't worth 55 cents, never mind the 55 bucks. I don't know if she is the only one or if there are two of them (there are 2 phone numbers) but I won't bother with this one again.

[QUOTE=Gansett]Ok 60 goes to the house right off the bat. Anyone know what the split from the "tip" is between the house and the ma-souse?

I heard from one girl who worked for a escort service that the service took up to 75% of the fees charged.

Just wondering, that's all.[/QUOTE]

It would really be nice to know that fact as it would definitely drive my tipping mo. I do know that at Joline's places in Ma that she splits the house fee (of 80) with the girls and then they get to keep the tip. I would guess that in general the house fee does go to the house. As far as the tip I haven't got the clue. With the upselling going on lately it might be a case where the house gets the first XX and the girl the rest or they split the donation. There has to be an incentive for these girls to try and upsell as much as they are doing. Anyway just my .02 but would love to know more. Good discussion point! SO

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]

As a related aside though, Club 1021 is a FS establishment and looking for a lower level of experience might lead to a similar experience as it was not what the place is known for. IMHO.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, but I was being rushed and if she had her way I would have been in and out in a half hour. When things aren't going well in the TS or massage, I think you need to cut your loses and go elsewhere. I still had my p4p cash in my pocket and went back to Lee for a GREAT one hour massage with an excellent HE.

I think if we are all a little bit more assertive, we will see some prices softening,

[QUOTE=Catnibbler]No need to get upset.

Maybe I misread but I thought I read FS for 90 plus house fee.

And I do think her butt is flat.[/QUOTE]Reread my reply and it did come across as angry; not my intention.

Pretty sure there isn't $90 FS at any of the reputable AMPs; a lot of talk about (us mongers) trying to barter to lower FS prices to $100.

Maybe economy will help; I don't think so, but YNK.

Clicking with an SP is not common (I've been lucky; twice).

My take is find one, maybe 2 (AMPs/girls) you like and become a regular (although some like constant change).

Not going to talk discount $ (as YMMV), but I've had better than great service for less money once I became a regular (usually 2 times/month).

Small, cheap money gifts to mamasan/girls/fav girl can go a long way too!

Now get out there and get yourself some; big girls need lovin' too and you're their guy! (I'm killin' myself here!!)

Be safe out there.

J

LMAO! They sound like the two BBW and I stress the "B" in BBW that use to clutter the erotic section with there ads! One ugly blonde and brunette who use to post photo's of them kissing. I think the blondes name is Samantha.

Glad to see you bailed out if it is those two you not only would be sick to your belly but you would have chewed your leg off to get away!

Sounds like they are posting in theraputic because they don't have a credit card needed to post in the erotic section.




[QUOTE=RH Treller]Had some time to kill Friday so I figured I would try the ones who post daily on CL in the therapeutic section with numbers ending in 1934 and 1397. They were offering a $55 "special" for 1 hour.

No answer at 1934, left message, no call back. Got a hispanic woman at 1397 and after several calls got to her place in Warwick.

I got one look and got out of there. I don't want to be mean, but she wasn't worth 55 cents, never mind the 55 bucks. I don't know if she is the only one or if there are two of them (there are 2 phone numbers) but I won't bother with this one again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperXfly]I decided to try this new place last Thursday afternoon. Entrance is located right on Admiral St. , I didn't see any side entrance. Place is pretty nice inside. I was the only one there at the time. I got Coco, there was one other girl I saw on the computer. She must of been Angela as in the previous reports. Coco looked probably late 30s, not as attractive as Angela.

Anyway, TS was bad, she was using some sort of scrubby on a stick. It was awful, I had to tell her to use just her hands when I flipped over. You can't beat the TS you get a Lilys. On to the the room and got a sub-par rub down with massage oil. After the flip, I ask her to remove her clothing and get the "how much you gonna give me? ". God, I hate that shit. I offered 50 and she says no, she wants 60. I say fuck it and agreed to the 60. She removes everything but the thong. After seeing her body, I realized I overpaid. During the HE, sucked her titties and played with the kitty. Wouldn't let the digit inside though. After the clean up, I dressed myself with no help from her. She was more concerned getting the table ready for the next customer. I didn't get a frequent customer card like Stressed Out, nor did I want one. I definitely will not repeat. It's back to Lilys for me.[/QUOTE]

Here is where keep encouraging everying to post post post their visits. We've had 3 posts on Heavenly hands (so far). My post was of a decent visit with a nice TS, great massage and nude HE with plenty of digit play for 50. We had a second post which included the above and relatively inexpensive FS. And now this post which seemed like it was a visit from hell.
This is why we need multiple reviews on the same place/girl. I know they might seem repetitive but they confirm a uniform visit or let us know when visits can be all over the place.
And I'm sorry you didn't get a frequent customer card :( You can have mine if you want! I do plan on trying again for the FS (hey for the price it's worth the try) but I don't reckon getting the 10 visits for a free massage! be safe all. SO

Finally made it over to 1021 to see Pink. Called ahead to confirm she was working & said I'll be there in a 1 hour to meet her. Had a bit of a hard time finding the place as there is no sign, so it is hard to know it is a spa. Anyways go in, go upstairs & kinda walking slowly, when the mamsan says hello, over here. Pay the house fee & she say Pink will be in soon / get ready. I get ready & Pink comes in. She is very cute in my opinion & my first impression is the Korean girl from Lost. Not exactly like her, but some resemblence IMHO.

Get over to the table shower & she does nice job, soaps up everything then gets naked & jumps up. Enjoyed the famous soapy slide. She has very soft boobs & knows how to use them. Nicely trimmed, but not a shaved bush. This actually helps during the slide. It kinda tickled. Nice towel dry & off for a solo 2-3 minute sauna.

Get back to massage room & she begins massage. Not quite lily quality, but fairly good job. One thing I really enjoyed is that she came in towards the end of the massage with hot towels & wrapped my feet in them. Also she walked on my back, it was weird I didn't even know she was up walking on it, until a peeked up & saw her getting down. Asks question, I say everything, she goes get supplies, comes back nice kisses on back, kiss the ass cheeks (no rimming) & gives a few reach arounds. Soft tickle / massage on balls & then ask me to flip.

Flip over she kisses neck, chest, belly & then begins CBJ. After short CBJ, she jumps on up & rides asian cowgirl. Nice & deep, then asks if I tongue her, I briefly give her some tounge to keep her all wet & the miss to doggy finish. She cleans up with more hot towels & then says thank you, I cum too, make sure you come visit again. I give peck on the cheek & out the door.

Overall a nice experience. I believe it was 200 including house fee & would repeat with Pink again. She was pleasant and smiled most of the time. Which is a big plus.

Thanks

I am new to this forum but not new to RI AMP's and have been patronizing Wanskuck and Pleasant practically since they opened.

The notion of "sex slavery" falls flat on its face with these places.

I have walked into wanskuck and found three women working their laptops-Michelle was actually taking her CPA courses online from the colege she attends in CA.

The women in both places have told me they work there at their convenience and come and go as they please.

I dated one Wanskuck provider for about a year and she was as independent a person as I've ever met.

Pleasant has two excellent providers, Gina and Ruby. Both have unfailingly nice attitudes and provide great service with no upselling. They may not be 10's in looks, but they are certainly attractive and attentive.

There used to be an awesome provider named Cici there. She told me she commuted from San Francisco and she was a 10 in every respect.

FS has never been on the menu at Pleasant, but since I don't seek that, it's fine with me.

Wanskuck is YMMV depending who is there. FS was common when they first opened, but now I really don't know.

I'm an older guy and don't look for young spinner types. I actually prefer late 30's and up-mid to late 40's is fine with me.

I have not had a single bad experience at Wanskuck, but the place is kind of run down. It's not the hygiene, which is ok, but the general condition of the building. Years ago I tried North Main and found few good providers, but something about the place turned me off.

Lily's has had some excellent providers, but they never stay long enough-there used to be one named Angie who was a dead ringer for Joan Chen, the actress. Once she left, I kind of lost interest in the place, although Ari was outstanding later on-now she's gone too.

I shouldn't forget Connie from Pleasant-she let me know she wouldn't be back there. Too bad-she was a lot of fun and I've seen good reports on her on this forum. I took a few Wanskuck providers shopping at Wrentham a couple of times. These ladies had a lot of disposable income. They wanted to pay for gas and all-I wouldn't hear of it. Later on, one of them gave me a nice wool shirt for Christmas that she had picked up in NYC.

Another provider there invited me to go with her to some Chinese festival in Boston-I picked her up at her cousin's house where she lives outside Boston and we had a nice time. I wanted to buy some DVD's and she told me to let her do the shopping as she would only have to pay half what I would from the street vendors.

Anyhow, that's my. 02 for now.

We are heading to RI for the fair in February?

My GF is interested in an AMP for a try.

Is anyone familiar or could suggest a fem/couple friendly AMP?

Thanks