[QUOTE=Badboycik]Thinking about trying this on way home this evening.
Anyone have anything good or bad to say about it?[/QUOTE]Probably a new one.
Thanks for volunteering to TOFTT.
We'll look forward to reading your report.
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[QUOTE=Badboycik]Thinking about trying this on way home this evening.
Anyone have anything good or bad to say about it?[/QUOTE]Probably a new one.
Thanks for volunteering to TOFTT.
We'll look forward to reading your report.
Drove by yesterday and they were closed with newspapers out in front in Lakeridge. Anyone know how long they will be closed for? They were open just two weeks ago.
I went by one day last week and observed the same thing. I had a visit the week before and no mention of closing. I planned a trip today to try out the other provider, Suzie and when I called the phone was disconnected. Looks like another one bites the dust.
I also saw an ad on CL in theraputic section that the former Sukura, aka SKO, was under new management and I think the current name is Route One Therapy. Might try it out this weekend and will report back.
[QUOTE=Dadwantsit]Drove by yesterday and they were closed with newspapers out in front in Lakeridge. Anyone know how long they will be closed for? They were open just two weeks ago.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Just Ken]I went by one day last week and observed the same thing. I had a visit the week before and no mention of closing. I planned a trip today to try out the other provider, Suzie and when I called the phone was disconnected. Looks like another one bites the dust. [/quote]Pretty new to this website. Like it a lot though. Great stuff. Too bad if this place closed. Suzie is very nice, speaks excellent english and gives a terrific massage and very slow, prolonged (at my request) HJ finish. Athletic build with nice rack. Went by again last night and saw the newspapers picked up but still had the closed sign out. Anybody know the story on this place?
Went to holiday and saw nana. I am one of her regulars. Great shower, decent massage that goes quickly. Up till now I had enjoyed my time but she would not allow roaming this day but she was talking really dirty to me. Pop. Done. 50 minutes. I gave standard tip but then she asked for another bill. I was like maybe next time. That was a really shitter. Now I need to find a new place. I really hate that.
Anyone have a lead on a Chinese place that is not the condos. I mean an AMP. I am sick of Kgirls and rather have Chinese, I find they take better care. PMs are good.
Pulled this from another USASG forum. It seems that when LE was in their early investigative stages of this place, they pulled over some patrons just to see what they get. Sadly, 4 of the 5 guys laid it all out for them. I really hope the mongers around here are better than this.
From the looks of this report, it seems that they can in fact touch and be touched.
Also the site listed, usasexreview.com does not exist. I'm pretty sure they were referring to this site.
[url]http://www.mysunforums.com/content/RJ/content/myrj/Documents/PoliceReport.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]I've visited ATMB on a few occasions, especially when I am looking for sports massage after working out. It's not what most of the folks on this board would want in terms of an AMP, but they know their craft. It's a legit establishment that meets the requirements for just a good solid massage session. Obviously, you discovered that, too.[/QUOTE]As with all such providers at ATMB, Lisa is no longer there.
If anyone has her contact info and is willing to share it, please drop me a line.
Exactly what are you going on about?
JJ
[QUOTE=Guitarman1]Pulled this from another USASG forum. It seems that when LE was in their early investigative stages of this place, they pulled over some patrons just to see what they get. Sadly, 4 of the 5 guys laid it all out for them. I really hope the mongers around here are better than this.
From the looks of this report, it seems that they can in fact touch and be touched.
Also the site listed, usasexreview.com does not exist. I'm pretty sure they were referring to this site.
[url]http://www.mysunforums.com/content/RJ/content/myrj/Documents/PoliceReport.pdf[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Phaik Naim]As with all such providers at ATMB, Lisa is no longer there. If anyone has her contact info and is willing to share it, please drop me a line.[/QUOTE]I'm unfamiliar with Lisa, but by your post I'm guessing that she gave as solid a sports massage as Angie. I'll ask, the next time I stop by after a workout. In the mean time, you might want to let Angie give you a massage. She will [u]definitely[/u] work out all the kinks. However, as with all the ATMB therapists, don't expect anything like you find in DC. They just give a good solid workout to the muscles, which is great after lifting for an hour or two.
RR
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]Exactly what are you going on about?
JJ[/QUOTE]
If you read through the link that I posted, you'll see exactly how the bust went down.
First, LE gets complaints from idiots who went there not realizing what kind of spot it really was.
Second, they go straight to this site to see what is being said about the place.
Third, they conduct surveillance to observe how long people are in there.
Fourth, they choose a couple mongers leaving and pull them over as they drive home. 4 of the 5 guys told LE everything about the place.
Fifth, they start UC operations. The UC's touched the girls and allowed the girls to touch and stroke them.
Sixth, they raid the place. Not for the first time either, this place was raided for the same reason several years ago but went right back into business.
So from this we see a few things. Due to the history of the place, local LE probably figured something may be going on there. Resources are limited so they left them be as long as there were no complaints. When a complaint came in, checking this site was one of the first things they did. Then they pulled mongers over to ask questions when they really had no proof of anything, and 4 of the 5 told LE all the details. Only 1 was smart enough to realize they were just fishing. Also, the LE check is pointless because it seems they can touch and be touched in those areas.
This seems to be what was going on around here when all the places in N. VA were closed down.
LE would wait for mongers to leave, pull them over on some BS type excuse and get them to spill the beans on what went down inside the Spa.
Lesson to be learned here....NEVER assume LEO has anything they can bust you on unless you are "caught in the act", if they did, you wouldn't be getting a chance to sing like a canary, most of the time you will do yourself more harm than good!
I have even heard from fellow mongers(as well as happening to me once while I was in Tampa FL some years back), that they've even walked away from a bust in progress even while inside the spa because they were not caught in any type of illegal activity, _of course caught laying face down on a table butt naked gets you a trip downtown(for those wondering)_, this is why they have to have that little towel on you at all times during massage session. ;)
MnV
[QUOTE=Guitarman1]If you read through the link that I posted, you'll see exactly how the bust went down.
First, LE gets complaints from idiots who went there not realizing what kind of spot it really was.
Second, they go straight to this site to see what is being said about the place.
Third, they conduct surveillance to observe how long people are in there.
Fourth, they choose a couple mongers leaving and pull them over as they drive home. 4 of the 5 guys told LE everything about the place.
Fifth, they start UC operations. The UC's touched the girls and allowed the girls to touch and stroke them.
Sixth, they raid the place. Not for the first time either, this place was raided for the same reason several years ago but went right back into business.
So from this we see a few things. Due to the history of the place, local LE probably figured something may be going on there. Resources are limited so they left them be as long as there were no complaints. When a complaint came in, checking this site was one of the first things they did. Then they pulled mongers over to ask questions when they really had no proof of anything, and 4 of the 5 told LE all the details. Only 1 was smart enough to realize they were just fishing. Also, the LE check is pointless because it seems they can touch and be touched in those areas.[/QUOTE]
I was in Woodbridge the other day and decided to take my chances by visiting one of the old hangouts. I stopped by Mios only to find it locked up. A sign on the front door said to go around back, but the back door was locked as well. Most of the surrounding units have been taken over by a Spanish-language evangelical church, so Mios's days were probably numbered. Too bad.
I then ran by Sakura/SKO/whatever-it-is-called-today. The therapist was in her late forties/early fifties. She gave a decent fifteen minute massage, then a standard finish. I paid for forty-five minutes, but was in and out in half that time. Overall, a vanilla experience (once upon a time, Sakura was second only to HWC for what you could expect, but those days are obviously long gone). You can get the same level of service or even better at any non-PWC Nova AMP without fear of getting raided.
Have been a client for some time with Sara and Yong at *** Had a fine time Friday (TS always excellent, and particularly good for those who prefer a soft touch (I rate that excellent)
But..- I like to get a full hour when I pay for an hour. And too many visits have been shorted by 15 minutes or so because they are busy and other clients are waiting.
I've written before that I think it is best to be an understanding client (leave when your MT needs to move on to the next client) if they are busy. But I think I'll move-on and patronize other quality places where an hour has 60 minutes.
FWIW.. They are both nice ladies in all the appropriate ways.. So if you visit, be nice to them
PA
I visited MPs in the early-mid 80's that were full service. I only knew of 1 AMP at that time (and I had really looked), it was near RT 50 and the Beltway in MD. That place offered bareback everything, but no covers were provided. When I provided my own covers, on several occasions I found that the girls were using petroleum-based lubes (disolves latex) and the covers were breaking, offering no protection. No bad results resulted at that time.
Now here is my question: Are the hobbyists here ever running into that same lube/breakage problem? I have avoided FS since I started up again (2 years ago), but I am considering taking the next step.
BC if you like.
Thanks for any info.
Norm
[QUOTE=Norm Leone]
Are the hobbyists here ever running into that same lube/breakage problem? I have avoided FS since I started up again (2 years ago), but I am considering taking the next step.
Norm[/QUOTE]
No problem ever.
The ladies are smart and generally know how to protect themselves.
25% of your posts contain some reference to safe sex, disease, or disgust towards the act. Do you ever enjoy yourself or are you consumed with fear?
[QUOTE=Ycwinva]No problem ever.
The ladies are smart and generally know how to protect themselves.
25% of your posts contain some reference to safe sex, disease, or disgust towards the act. Do you ever enjoy yourself or are you consumed with fear?[/QUOTE]
Disgust? You seem to be hallucinating. I have just been avoiding what had been a problem before. Now I am asking if the situation still exists so I can enjoy what I enjoyed before. How do you read anything negative into that? Safety is not a negative thing, denial is. So I asked.
[QUOTE=Norm Leone]Disgust? You seem to be hallucinating. I have just been avoiding what had been a problem before. Now I am asking if the situation still exists so I can enjoy what I enjoyed before. How do you read anything negative into that? Safety is not a negative thing, denial is. So I asked.[/QUOTE]
My point is, we enlightened you on the policy regarding "safe sex" talk in the threads on or about 12/14/2008. Now you're doing it again.
And, the NVA massage thread is the last place to be asking about FS related matters as we know it almost never happens here.
Please ask your questions on this thread instead:
[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268[/url]
1. V&P
2. Cherry
3. Good
4. PM for details
[QUOTE=Ycwinva]My point is, we enlightened you on the policy regarding "safe sex" talk in the threads on or about 12/14/2008. Now you're doing it again.
And, the NVA massage thread is the last place to be asking about FS related matters as we know it almost never happens here.
Please ask your questions on this thread instead:
[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=268[/url][/QUOTE]You need to RTF Rules. There is no policy on "safe sex talk", it is on "No Safe Sex Complaints", so your criticism is misguided. I was interested in NVA so this was the place to ask my question.
Go find something useful to do.
Its not the problem now that it was in the early 80's.
There are many non-petroleum based lubes on the market that are compatable with latex condoms.
Or you could use sheep gut condoms.
Hey anyone know where TCCC is?
[blue][Personal address deleted by Admin][/blue]
This has been a public service announcement! :sarcastic:
Brad1
P.S. Don't expect any good looking girls there though you'll probably find MoonView and/or Roamin Roman (sometimes with each other).
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[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven]Its not the problem now that it was in the early 80's.
There are many non-petroleum based lubes on the market that are compatable with latex condoms.
Or you could use sheep gut condoms.[/QUOTE]Do they still sell those?!!? Non latex condoms do not stop HIV so I would suggest sticking with Latex. The girls are smart enough these days to know what to do. They provide the cover (latex) and use water based lube. They want to stay safe too.
[blue]Greetings everyone,
I have received numerous complaints about Bradley1's general attitude, and specifically about his posting of the address and telephone number for the "Tysons Corner Chinese Condo".
Before I can initiate any action, I need to know one thing:
Is the address/telephone number that he posted for a place of business, or a private residence.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of commercially accessible business that are open to the public [u]is[/u] [u]permitted[/u].
Posting street address and telephone numbers of private residences is [u]NOT[/u] [u]permitted[/u] and will result in the immediate banning of the perpetrator.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Visit many time and this is a private location (Apt) in which you need a code to enter.
For service it is hit or miss.
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings everyone,
I have received numerous complaints about Bradley1's general attitude, and specifically about his posting of the address and telephone number for the "Tysons Corner Chinese Condo".
Before I can initiate any action, I need to know one thing:
Is the address/telephone number that he posted for a place of business, or a private residence.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of commercially accessible business that are open to the public [u]is[/u] [u]permitted[/u].
Posting street address and telephone numbers of private residences is [u]NOT[/u] [u]permitted[/u] and will result in the immediate banning of the perpetrator.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jackson
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[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings everyone,
I have received numerous complaints about Bradley1's general attitude, and specifically about his posting of the address and telephone number for the "Tysons Corner Chinese Condo".
Before I can initiate any action, I need to know one thing:
Is the address/telephone number that he posted for a place of business, or a private residence.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of commercially accessible business that are open to the public [u]is[/u] [u]permitted[/u].
Posting street address and telephone numbers of private residences is [u]NOT[/u] [u]permitted[/u] and will result in the immediate banning of the perpetrator.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]I don't know about the phone number, but the street address he gave is for a group of condominiums / apartments that are located just off Westpark Drive in the Tysons Corner area. The number he listed is not the suite number of a business, but rather is the actual apartment number within that complex. I know that for a fact. If necessary, I can obtain a photo of the apartment's front door and send it to you.
RR
[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven]There are many non-petroleum based lubes on the market that are compatable with latex condoms.
Or you could use [b]sheep gut condoms[/b].[/QUOTE]So, if you use one of those condoms, you wouldn't be porking her. You'd be "sheeping" her.
Its a private residence, please ban him for life.
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings everyone,
I have received numerous complaints about Bradley1's general attitude, and specifically about his posting of the address and telephone number for the "Tysons Corner Chinese Condo".
Before I can initiate any action, I need to know one thing:
Is the address/telephone number that he posted for a place of business, or a private residence.
Posting street address and telephone numbers of commercially accessible business that are open to the public [u]is[/u] [u]permitted[/u].
Posting street address and telephone numbers of private residences is [u]NOT[/u] [u]permitted[/u] and will result in the immediate banning of the perpetrator.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]So, if you use one of those condoms, you wouldn't be porking her. You'd be "sheeping" her.[/QUOTE]
No, "ewe" would be "ramming" her.
In my last post I mentioned the Mios spa in Woodbridge was closed. There is an ad on Craigslist mentioning that it is reopening under a new name, the Tokyo spa. I can't imagine it will be any worse than the lackluster service I received at SKO. If the providers are actually Japanese (doubtful), it might be worth a visit.
I've been watching their CL ads for a while. They remind me of the ads for Golden Spa. I a few days ago, and was again reminded of Golden Spa, whose ads have definitely tailed off on CL. A Caucasian-sounding dude answered the phone, like at Golden. I asked a simple, introductory question, which he answered and called me sir in (it seemed to me) a military / LEO sort of way.
I have seen no reports on this board other than (a) someone who couldn't find it and (b) someone who was purportedly going to try it, but never followed up.
Spidey sense tingling here. I'm going to pass on this one unless I see / hear some very very good things about this place.
I just thought I'd pass along some paranoia.
[QUOTE=Phaik Naim]I've been watching their CL ads for a while. They remind me of the ads for Golden Spa. I a few days ago, and was again reminded of Golden Spa, whose ads have definitely tailed off on CL. A Caucasian-sounding dude answered the phone, like at Golden. I asked a simple, introductory question, which he answered and called me sir in (it seemed to me) a military / LEO sort of way.
I have seen no reports on this board other than (a) someone who couldn't find it and (b) someone who was purportedly going to try it, but never followed up.
Spidey sense tingling here. I'm going to pass on this one unless I see / hear some very very good things about this place.
I just thought I'd pass along some paranoia.[/QUOTE]
I noticed today that they both have new ads on the City Paper site and the wording is strangely similar - "no obligation viewing" for both ads. They are in the same zip code. The pictures looked very similar as well. I agree with Phaik Naim. The whole thing just seems too coincidental and, at the least, a touch odd.
Sounds like you could use a report on Tao. I was there 2 months ago, called the number, talked to the guy, and he instructed me to a certain bldg, calling him as I got near the right entrance, in Merrifield. It was definately strange, like I was getting ready to get beat. Residential bldg, I walk down hall, girl in doctor like smock waits for me at condo with door open. Lousy massage, could have had FS, standard quick finish. Pass on it.
Saw Joy last Friday at the place behind the McDonalds off Backlick. New girl... glad I took the mamasans advice. Excellent massage and lots of time spent on the neck which I needed. Finish was great and she had great fake Ds that she allowed to breath. I highly recommend.
Has anyone been to P&S in Vienna recently? Thinking about checking it out tomorrow. Would love any recommendations. Feel free to PM.
I wanted to try a new place today. Shiatsu has received some very good reviews so I decided to run over and check it out for myself. Funny, it is literally around the corner from Pine Tree in the same office park.
I arrived late morning and was greeted by Connie. Very cute. Face was so-so, but she had a great looking body and an impressive top. I had the entire place to myself.- no other customers coming or going at this time.
Very nice facility. Clean and well kept. Connie took me to my room, where I paid $80 for the hour. Undressed and went to the table shower. A little to quick for me, but thorough.
Back to the room. Toweled me off one more time for good measure than I assumed the position.
Very strong massage. If you like a good hard massage, than Connie is for you. She did a great job, was very personable and went above and beyond. I left extremely satisfied thinking I had just found my new favorite AMP as well as my favorite provider.
I tipped $80 on the way out and look forward to going back!
[QUOTE=Wahooboy94]She did a great job, was very personable and went above and beyond. I left extremely satisfied thinking I had just found my new favorite AMP as well as my favorite provider.
I tipped $80 on the way out and look forward to going back![/QUOTE]Based on your review, I went and checked out Connie. Surprise. She is Lisa from ATMB! Extremely satisfied sums it up nicely. Nice start to a 3 day weekend.
Thanks for the heads-up.
[QUOTE=Volvos40]Sounds like you could use a report on Tao. I was there 2 months ago, called the number, talked to the guy, and he instructed me to a certain bldg, calling him as I got near the right entrance, in Merrifield. It was definately strange, like I was getting ready to get beat. Residential bldg, I walk down hall, girl in doctor like smock waits for me at condo with door open. Lousy massage, could have had FS, standard quick finish. Pass on it.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that. That explains the one guy who couldn't find it, as the address given is that of a 2 story office building, presumably in front of the condos. The more I look around CL, the more I notice ads similar to the Tao / Golden ads. Spidey Sense now leaning toward this being a very "organized" operation, and not by Uncle LEO.
I'm definitely staying away.
Yeah, I drove out there and found the office building but it was dark.
No cars in the lot.
I didn't go in.
Just a lil recon.
Just rode bby A Plus Therapy in Lakeridge again.
Still looks closed with no sign of recent activity.
[QUOTE=Guitarman1]There are exceptions which can lead to a lower or higher tip than what I previously posted.
HJ - .4
BJ - .6
FS - 1.0
Lets say the session was way shorter than what you paid for, or the girl didn't even try to be friendly. That tip should be a bit lower.
Lets say the girl lets you go over the time and provides enthusiastic service. That could warrant a bit more.
Not long ago I had a girl give me a standard finish in the shower, then again after the massage. Of course I tipped more.
Ultimately we want to keep the prices consistent. The standard tip amounts I posted is a guide to keep those prices consistent. However, it is not a rule. Don't be afraid to tip less if you have a bad time. Of course you should only go over those amounts if you get exceptional service.[/QUOTE]The idea of tipping seems to be wholy a subject of "extra" service. While the extra service is certainly the central theme, what about the act of a good massage in and of itself? Would it be considerate to get a massage from a "day spa" and not tip? Food for thought. Maybe it's time to rethink tipping. I do know that when it comes to seeing the same provider, YMMV regarding how much you tipped the last time.