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[QUOTE=PropLA;4795104]I'm proud to be scammed and share my missteps to the group.

Beware of this chick: [URL]https://losangeles.rubratings.com/172284[/URL].

Awesomex90.

She's been posting adds for a while. Pics attached.

We made arrangements to get together today for FBSM and FS, $200 hh, reasonable.

Here's how she works:

She asks you your location first.

Then she posts an address in your city (I told her I was in Pasadena and she sent me the address to the Westin).

She says she prefers to be paid via cashapp or via gift cards since she's been scammed in the past, but agrees to let you pay her once you arrive.

(so the red flags didn't go off. Yet since I figured this might be a way around a "cash transaction".

I texted once I arrived and she asked for me to cashapp 1/2 of our agreed fee--saying she's trying to be careful. Sob story. She even offered to cashap $50 back to me. More sob story.

Since I had gift cards to give her, I offered $50 and the rest at the door.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

She kept asking for the balance and then I never heard from her again.

I have 2 cell phones, so I reached out to her again and she gave me the same lines of bullshit. BUT. The next time I said I was in Rosemead and she gave me a Rosemead hotel address--saying she was there at the same time.

Anyways. Stay safe, my friends. I'll gladly take one for the team if it helps a fellow monger.[/QUOTE]TGTBT usually is. Very unfortunate.

A simple right click on one of the images used in the fake RR ad will direct you to the IG page of NYC model Maria Doroshina, and I highly doubt she will advertise there for 200 bucks. Girls like that are beyond the reach of us mortal men. Scammers are unlikely to get shut down.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/doroshina/?hl=en[/URL]

Steak.

[QUOTE=PropLA;4798072]For me it was just $50, but I'm sure she's scammed way more from others. I hope this scammer gets shut. That being said, I've seen some beautiful girls through RR! But I won't make the same mistake. More than 4-5 times. LOL.[/QUOTE]

What's the deal with some of these providers now wanting some sort deposit due to "guys flaking"? Seems like paypal & cash app or similar source where you have to link a bank account. Seems like too much of a hassle & from a recent experience a nightmare not just on lost money but almost no privacy on identity etc. They seem to get butt hurt even if you slightly entertain & throw out Venmo or Google pay where you can link a visa gift card.

Not worth it & it's hilarious how angry some but not all of these ladies get even "wanting" to meet them half way telling them what you have at your disposal! Not trying to be a jerk but WTF!

Paper is always king for so many reasons.

Hey guys I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. So I went on bed page and contacted a girl thru what is app. She responded with prices. Now prices were too cheap. So I let it go May be a cop. So that night I get a text from a sicario LOL. Telling me that I owe him 700 $ for wasting his girls time. That if I don't pay He is going to send his people to kill me and my family. So I was bored so I decided to have a bit of fun. As I declined the payment they said that they will give me 24 hrs to pay. Granted they were sending some pretty crazy pics. The next day they send me a pic of me and my house telling me they are across the street. So I send them pics of my guns and I tell them let's do this. They even faced timed me on WhatsApp. Trying to intimidate. Well had to change my number because they wouldn't stop bugging so be careful out there on bed page or any other website. Has anyone had this happen to them.

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[QUOTE=HarleyRider01;4802237]Hey guys I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. So I went on bed page and contacted a girl thru what is app. She responded with prices. Now prices were too cheap. So I let it go May be a cop. So that night I get a text from a sicario LOL. Telling me that I owe him 700 $ for wasting his girls time. That if I don't pay He is going to send his people to kill me and my family. So I was bored so I decided to have a bit of fun. As I declined the payment they said that they will give me 24 hrs to pay. Granted they were sending some pretty crazy pics. The next day they send me a pic of me and my house telling me they are across the street. So I send them pics of my guns and I tell them let's do this. They even faced timed me on WhatsApp. Trying to intimidate. Well had to change my number because they wouldn't stop bugging so be careful out there on bed page or any other website. Has anyone had this happen to them.[/QUOTE]So, you used a # associated with you're personal info attached to facebook or etc to get your real name?

[QUOTE=HarleyRider01;4802237]Hey guys I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. So I went on bed page and contacted a girl thru what is app. She responded with prices. Now prices were too cheap. So I let it go May be a cop. So that night I get a text from a sicario LOL. Telling me that I owe him 700 $ for wasting his girls time. That if I don't pay He is going to send his people to kill me and my family. So I was bored so I decided to have a bit of fun. As I declined the payment they said that they will give me 24 hrs to pay. Granted they were sending some pretty crazy pics. The next day they send me a pic of me and my house telling me they are across the street. So I send them pics of my guns and I tell them let's do this. They even faced timed me on WhatsApp. Trying to intimidate. Well had to change my number because they wouldn't stop bugging so be careful out there on bed page or any other website. Has anyone had this happen to them.[/QUOTE]I had it happen to me. I laughed my ass off and reminded them that the FBI was now involved since they had just threatened an American citizen. I also told them to go fuck their mothers, as I had done many times already. And that was the end of that.

But I got to ask? You said they were across the street from where you live? How in the world did they get your address. These people are probably not even in the same city as you. That part is weird.

[QUOTE=Domino727;4802428]I had it happen to me. I laughed my ass off and reminded them that the FBI was now involved since they had just threatened an American citizen. I also told them to go fuck their mothers, as I had done many times already. And that was the end of that.

But I got to ask? You said they were across the street from where you live? How in the world did they get your address. These people are probably not even in the same city as you. That part is weird.[/QUOTE]Try a background check of yourself. But be careful to terminate the service even if you use a virtual credit number; they are still authorized to charge you. An HX girl once gave me her personal number. I know all her real name and all extended family lives.

As for pictures, google maps is bad enough if you haven't seen the photos yourself. Also, I think there had been online services for people getting paid to go out and take pictures, for applications such as real estate. But I won't be surprised that gangsters of the world united to provide this business to business service.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8358109/Swiss-brothels-draw-list-coronavirus-safe-sex-positions.html[/URL]

If this applies to 8155 sm, I am done.

[QUOTE=HarleyRider01;4802237]Hey guys I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. So I went on bed page and contacted a girl thru what is app. She responded with prices. Now prices were too cheap. So I let it go May be a cop. So that night I get a text from a sicario LOL. Telling me that I owe him 700 $ for wasting his girls time. That if I don't pay He is going to send his people to kill me and my family. So I was bored so I decided to have a bit of fun. As I declined the payment they said that they will give me 24 hrs to pay. Granted they were sending some pretty crazy pics. The next day they send me a pic of me and my house telling me they are across the street. So I send them pics of my guns and I tell them let's do this. They even faced timed me on WhatsApp. Trying to intimidate. Well had to change my number because they wouldn't stop bugging so be careful out there on bed page or any other website. Has anyone had this happen to them.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately that's why a text or burner app at the very least is important when dealing in any of this. If you use your own personal # or any # attached to you personally & any of your personal info it's so easy these days for anyone to get that info. Very scary.

Even if it isn't a scam or LEO. A lot of these ladies, even some of the more established ones has ties to people where you do not want the slightest bit of info getting out there as you are always in the realm of possibly running into problems.

Thanks for the heads up & from now on don't use anything tied to you personally for monger business.

Good luck & I'm sure everything will be fine. Hopefully lesson learned. We all go through it unfortunately in some way.

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[QUOTE=PriscillaM;4803415][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8358109/Swiss-brothels-draw-list-coronavirus-safe-sex-positions.html[/URL]

If this applies to 8155 sm, I am done.[/QUOTE]Maybe the girls could offer washable ink pens so when you can only do her in doggy style or rcg you can doodle on her back? LOL.

[QUOTE=NoMaam94;4803438]Unfortunately that's why a text or burner app at the very least is important when dealing in any of this. If you use your own personal # or any # attached to you personally & any of your personal info it's so easy these days for anyone to get that info. Very scary.

Even if it isn't a scam or LEO. A lot of these ladies, even some of the more established ones has ties to people where you do not want the slightest bit of info getting out there as you are always in the realm of possibly running into problems.

Thanks for the heads up & from now on don't use anything tied to you personally for monger business.

Good luck & I'm sure everything will be fine. Hopefully lesson learned. We all go through it unfortunately in some way.[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks for sharing. That is some scary stuff. Especially them sending a pic in front of your house. Jesus. For you or anyone else that reads this, use a burner phone or app. A good option a veteran got me using was the Google Voice app. Install it in your phone, get a free burner number and happy hobbying, no tie to your personal phone.

Also doesn't to use a VPN service, generally. Stay safe!

[QUOTE=PussyDestroyr;4806934]Wow, thanks for sharing. That is some scary stuff. Especially them sending a pic in front of your house. Jesus. For you or anyone else that reads this, use a burner phone or app. A good option a veteran got me using was the Google Voice app. Install it in your phone, get a free burner number and happy hobbying, no tie to your personal phone.

Also doesn't to use a VPN service, generally. Stay safe![/QUOTE]I have been carelessly using my phone number for this hobby, I went through several of the reverse phone number lookup and paid their premium to see what comes up when I search my number up.

It's shows your entire background basically for $9. Traffic Tickets, hacks, where you live, social media accounts and more.

So I start by going through my message history of everyone I met until yesterday, most of the numbers were not in use, so they most probably have deleted all information from that phone. I m probably safe from them

However, There are about 15 who are still in use, 3 of them are actual phone numbers and the rest are burner numbers or google voice. I think the clients got to be equally safe as well. I think i m fine with the google voice using providers, once they switch their burner number all the chat and other stuff disappears, but if you’ve sent a picture or DL for Verification, they might have downloaded it but cannot trace you what phone number it was linked to.

Another trick to identify burner numbers on iPhone is you get texts in green background and blue for an iPhone.

Go to your settings on iPhone, Safari, Location. Then select deny access from all websites.

I m also working on one more thing, I ll update the steps on how to do it when I m done, been doing it for 3 hours now 😂

Not all Casinos but many of them are. Going to gamble and lay some pipe in some ladies.

[QUOTE=DreamFreez;4807752]I have been carelessly using my phone number for this hobby, I went through several of the reverse phone number lookup and paid their premium to see what comes up when I search my number up.

It's shows your entire background basically for $9. Traffic Tickets, hacks, where you live, social media accounts and more.

So I start by going through my message history of everyone I met until yesterday, most of the numbers were not in use, so they most probably have deleted all information from that phone. I m probably safe from them

However, There are about 15 who are still in use, 3 of them are actual phone numbers and the rest are burner numbers or google voice. I think the clients got to be equally safe as well. I think i m fine with the google voice using providers, once they switch their burner number all the chat and other stuff disappears, but if youve sent a picture or DL for Verification, they might have downloaded it but cannot trace you what phone number it was linked to.

Another trick to identify burner numbers on iPhone is you get texts in green background and blue for an iPhone.

Go to your settings on iPhone, Safari, Location. Then select deny access from all websites.

I m also working on one more thing, I ll update the steps on how to do it when I m done, been doing it for 3 hours now[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip on Safari, I had it set to ask, but deny is probably safer.

With as many reports as are shared on such a regular basis, I'm curious how much you all have committed to this (before the COVID lockdowns).

So, on a monthly basis, what are your averages. ?

--women seen.

--time spent with these women.

--time spent looking / negotiating / other arrangements.

--money spent.

I'm thinking I'm an insignificant statistic in this sea.

[QUOTE=SFVsag;4819802]With as many reports as are shared on such a regular basis, I'm curious how much you all have committed to this (before the COVID lockdowns).

So, on a monthly basis, what are your averages. ?

--women seen.

--time spent with these women.

--time spent looking / negotiating / other arrangements.

--money spent.

I'm thinking I'm an insignificant statistic in this sea.[/QUOTE]Probably one a week, no more than an hour, probably spend about 15 minutes a day scanning sites, and I try to stay at 200 a week. This has been difficult because covid ended the MPs.

[QUOTE=HarleyRider01;4802237]Hey guys I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. So I went on bed page and contacted a girl thru what is app. She responded with prices. Now prices were too cheap. So I let it go May be a cop. So that night I get a text from a sicario LOL. Telling me that I owe him 700 $ for wasting his girls time. That if I don't pay He is going to send his people to kill me and my family. So I was bored so I decided to have a bit of fun. As I declined the payment they said that they will give me 24 hrs to pay. Granted they were sending some pretty crazy pics. The next day they send me a pic of me and my house telling me they are across the street. So I send them pics of my guns and I tell them let's do this. They even faced timed me on WhatsApp. Trying to intimidate. Well had to change my number because they wouldn't stop bugging so be careful out there on bed page or any other website. Has anyone had this happen to them.[/QUOTE]Happened to me once and yeah they send some really nasty pictures but I just deleted the phone number on my burner app and never heard from them again.

[QUOTE=HarleyRider01;4802237]Hey guys I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. So I went on bed page and contacted a girl thru what is app. She responded with prices. Now prices were too cheap. So I let it go May be a cop. So that night I get a text from a sicario LOL. Telling me that I owe him 700 $ for wasting his girls time. That if I don't pay He is going to send his people to kill me and my family. So I was bored so I decided to have a bit of fun. As I declined the payment they said that they will give me 24 hrs to pay. Granted they were sending some pretty crazy pics. The next day they send me a pic of me and my house telling me they are across the street. So I send them pics of my guns and I tell them let's do this. They even faced timed me on WhatsApp. Trying to intimidate. Well had to change my number because they wouldn't stop bugging so be careful out there on bed page or any other website. Has anyone had this happen to them.[/QUOTE]How did they get pictures of you and your house? I'm new to this so I'm just looking for advice to protect myself.

[QUOTE=AfricaMan1990;4835383]How did they get pictures of you and your house? I'm new to this so I'm just looking for advice to protect myself.[/QUOTE]Got to use a fake number brotha. Download the a fake messaging app to stay protected. I gotten messages like that, and phone calls from the "FBI" but because I'm just using a burner number I know they're just fake. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=WhyNot213;4835988]Got to use a fake number brotha. Download the a fake messaging app to stay protected. I gotten messages like that, and phone calls from the "FBI" but because I'm just using a burner number I know they're just fake. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]You mean a burner app? I'm not sure what the fake messaging app is. I use Burner for texting these girls and so far it's been working. The one girl I met up with before I'll probably continue to text with that but switch it up moving forward.

I was checking my text free number and it showed I had a miss call so I looked up the number which was 213-xxx-2971 and it turned out to be the LAPD Hollywood station, has this happen to anyone recently?

In case you didn't hear or have trouble accessing.

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/backpage-replacement-cityxguide-taken-down-federal-prosecutors/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jparkla23;4839156]In case you didn't hear or have trouble accessing.

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/backpage-replacement-cityxguide-taken-down-federal-prosecutors/[/URL][/QUOTE]I was looking at an earlier post on ISG and there was a link to a provider that I just tried opening and the page was blocked by my browser with a virus warning.

[QUOTE=GolfPen;4837863]I was checking my text free number and it showed I had a miss call so I looked up the number which was 213-xxx-2971 and it turned out to be the LAPD Hollywood station, has this happen to anyone recently?[/QUOTE]That's kind of odd my man, but right now might be a time to lay low for us all at the moment or at least tread very lighty! Per CityX & numerous clamp downs across the country right now including well known agencies. That said with this pandemic & the other bs going on at the moment it's unbelievable that our quality tax payer's hard earned resources are being thrown into this at the very moment.

[QUOTE=NoMaam94;4841915]That's kind of odd my man, but right now might be a time to lay low for us all at the moment or at least tread very lighty! Per CityX & numerous clamp downs across the country right now including well known agencies. That said with this pandemic & the other bs going on at the moment it's unbelievable that our quality tax payer's hard earned resources are being thrown into this at the very moment.[/QUOTE]What exactly is the rumor?

Where did you hear the rumor?

Cleaning house can mean so many things.

[QUOTE=GolfPen;4837863]I was checking my text free number and it showed I had a miss call so I looked up the number which was 213-xxx-2971 and it turned out to be the LAPD Hollywood station, has this happen to anyone recently?[/QUOTE]It is still relatively easy to Spoof a phone number to make it look like an incoming call is from LAPD or Mother Terasa.

I called these guys and the next thing I knew I got a text saying that unless I wanted my personal information posted on social media and sent to the FBI I needed to send them 5,000 in bitcoin.

I didn't do anything because

1. Fuck them

2. I use a VPN so again fuck them

[URL]http://www.ariavegasescorts.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=HarleyRider01;4802237]Hey guys I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. So I went on bed page and contacted a girl thru what is app. She responded with prices. Now prices were too cheap. So I let it go May be a cop. So that night I get a text from a sicario LOL. Telling me that I owe him 700 $ for wasting his girls time. That if I don't pay He is going to send his people to kill me and my family. So I was bored so I decided to have a bit of fun. As I declined the payment they said that they will give me 24 hrs to pay. Granted they were sending some pretty crazy pics. The next day they send me a pic of me and my house telling me they are across the street. So I send them pics of my guns and I tell them let's do this. They even faced timed me on WhatsApp. Trying to intimidate. Well had to change my number because they wouldn't stop bugging so be careful out there on bed page or any other website. Has anyone had this happen to them.[/QUOTE]Post her ad. I want to play with fire LOL.

Saw this on tiktok. Looks like a motel with girls. PM if you know the location.

[URL]https://vm.tiktok.com/JRvPKy7/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;4863091]Saw this on tiktok. Looks like a motel with girls. PM if you know the location.

[URL]https://vm.tiktok.com/JRvPKy7/[/URL][/QUOTE]There are tons of Bakersfield prostitutes posting on SKG and every other website.

The problem is that alot of them are running scams so you get to the room, give her the money, drop your drops and then theres a knock on the door.

Instead of ignoring the knocking. They run to the door and open it without even looking thru the peephole.

[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;4863091]Saw this on tiktok. Looks like a motel with girls. PM if you know the location.

[URL]https://vm.tiktok.com/JRvPKy7/[/URL][/QUOTE]That is the four seasons on truxton.

[QUOTE=Superflytnt;4862167]Post her ad. I want to play with fire LOL.[/QUOTE]Had same thing some one sent a text with dead people sad you are next pay up $500.

I text back fuck you and photos of me and my AR with 100 rounder say come and get it.

Never her from them.

There are few moments in life where technology alters your life.

I remember sending my first email. It was a response to an invitation to a party.

I remember my first backpage ho ho, it was a girl on the west side who could suck the proverbial volleyball through a paper straw.

And how this from rubratings:

Important: Never send payments in advance! Requests for CashApp, PayPal, Venmo, gift cards, etc are scams.

Not that any monger would ever do this, but the site says not to.

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;4853546]What exactly is the rumor?

Where did you hear the rumor?

Cleaning house can mean so many things.[/QUOTE]Per a few gals LE are doing major busts right now between guys like us & girls a like. Noticing some of these regulars that used to post with Mega personals, LC etc aren't doing so because of this. Pd & HX are more of a safe bed right now & some are laying low waiting it out unless already a repeat.

What's the consensus for mongers being shorted say 15-20 minutes on time aloted 1 HR GFE? Have had that happen literally with a couple providers & when I politely respectfully try to bring up they get somewhat cold while getting ready literally prepping for next session. I get last 10 minutes is usually a clean up bow out sort of deal but any anything more is ridiculous! Especially if these girls are running late making you wait sometimes 30 minutes past scheduled time! I'm reasonable & get what the deal is but not to acknowledge or at very least when agreeing to an hour stick to it! Not a respectful mongers fault they can't keep their schedules together. These are somewhat known providers as well not low end SW's. One was even a repeat & 180 first date that knocked it out of the park! I even gifted as a thank you not looking for anything out of it but usual agreed to terms previous time. All I got was drama attitude from both gals & saying they were blocking me no longer welcomed LOL.

[QUOTE=NoMaam94;4868773]What's the consensus for mongers being shorted say 15-20 minutes on time aloted 1 HR GFE? Have had that happen literally with a couple providers & when I politely respectfully try to bring up they get somewhat cold while getting ready literally prepping for next session. I get last 10 minutes is usually a clean up bow out sort of deal but any anything more is ridiculous! Especially if these girls are running late making you wait sometimes 30 minutes past scheduled time! I'm reasonable & get what the deal is but not to acknowledge or at very least when agreeing to an hour stick to it! Not a respectful mongers fault they can't keep their schedules together. These are somewhat known providers as well not low end SW's. One was even a repeat & 180 first date that knocked it out of the park! I even gifted as a thank you not looking for anything out of it but usual agreed to terms previous time. All I got was drama attitude from both gals & saying they were blocking me no longer welcomed LOL.[/QUOTE]The individual providers usually on PD, rush you out the door so they can make the next client nut quick and see at least 15 clients a day. Which is why they prefer older dudes with performance issues. Because they nut to moans and eye contact. LOL. I usually keep ploughing until the last minute, the hoe gets annoyed and offers me COF or CIM.

I never had this problem with crew girls or agency girls, I usually go overtime by half hour some times 45 minutes

[QUOTE=DreamFreez;4869118]The individual providers usually on PD, rush you out the door so they can make the next client nut quick and see at least 15 clients a day. Which is why they prefer older dudes with performance issues. Because they nut to moans and eye contact. LOL. I usually keep ploughing until the last minute, the hoe gets annoyed and offers me COF or CIM.

I never had this problem with crew girls or agency girls, I usually go overtime by half hour some times 45 minutes[/QUOTE]Thanks man, yeah I stay away from PD!! The two ladies in question both north of 40 hot milfs do use PD but found them through other means. They are also both believe to be found on them, HX & various other sources though I notice a few are laying "low" right now. The one I gifted w / her favorite perfume "she wanted" after 1st session found her through her website. But may be the PD "complex" is the issue!

Idk maybe I'm just a sucker LOL, I try to be a gentlemen & treat them with some sort of respect but a lot of these over $300 an hour mature prostitutes seem to have some entitlement issues. Don't get me wrong know a FEW that don't & go above beyond. But since the pandemic, seem to be running into more issues. Decent looking guy mid 30's been told I resemble Adam Levine & Brian Austin Green by civilian ladies & others so feel maybe sort a decent looking guy would would get better treatment. Always show up super clean, groomed, dresses decent smelling nice so IDK! Maybe I need to just buckle down & join HX. The $25 isn't the issue for me but the pain of building a network so I can see better quality ladies.

Never try to haggle extra time free unless they personally offered which has happened, even then I always will do everything to please the provider physically or by other means to compensate for time only fair.

While we're talking about various ad sites, I used ThatMall pretty extensively when visiting LA from DC several years ago. Is TM still considered a good resource these days?