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[QUOTE=HuksAlot;4738102]Word. I share baby intel privately with one Portland monger who I trust because we keep the intel between us and because like me he does the necessary leg work (active on SA, contacts and meets the girls). Successfully operating within the sugar game requires tactful closing skills, complete independence or privately sharing intel within close circles. As Michael1967 said posting intel on a baby will open them up to tactless escort minded mongers who are not experienced with sugar girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, please, please, do not tell SBs about them being mentioned here. It would only backfire, one the SB most likely would go under the radar and two people would stop sharing intel.

Also sharing contact info that is not public, is not cool. SA is not TNA

[QUOTE=DelToro;4738528]Also sharing contact info that is not public, is not cool. SA is not TNA[/QUOTE]I don't know why people don't understand this. I've had PMs asking me to share phone numbers of girls on SA and they make it sound like I'm somehow being stingy or greedy. It's not that at all -- it's rude and there's a 0% chance that a message / phone call from an unknown person would ever be welcome by an SA girl.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;4739301]I don't know why people don't understand this. I've had PMs asking me to share phone numbers of girls on SA and they make it sound like I'm somehow being stingy or greedy. It's not that at all -- it's rude and there's a 0% chance that a message / phone call from an unknown person would ever be welcome by an SA girl.[/QUOTE]Its more annoying when someone has been on here 3 years and has like 3 posts and wants pertinent info.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;4739301]I don't know why people don't understand this. I've had PMs asking me to share phone numbers of girls on SA and they make it sound like I'm somehow being stingy or greedy. It's not that at all -- it's rude and there's a 0% chance that a message / phone call from an unknown person would ever be welcome by an SA girl.[/QUOTE]Incorrect, it depends on the girl. I've done both ways with success prior to the current situation. Some SA girls were OK with the calls. There are many mongers out there that aren't able to sign up for a paid SA account because of their life situation, as I was for a while, and I had a few great experiences because info was shared on this board privately and, of course, because I didn't act like a dick. It's very easy- you don't mention this board and say something like, "Hey, my friend (whatever you and the other monger discuss) gave me your number. " Again, YMMV but it's absolutely not a hard and fast rule.

I think especially these days more SA providers will be willing to increase their client base given that so many are going to be out of work. 6.6 m people applied for unemployment last week and best guesses are that the overall unemployment rate is 13%, the worst since the Great Depression, and that is likely to go up.

SA girls like to act like they aren't prostitutes and treating them differently to their face is how we get what we want out of the situation but here on this forum can we stop acting like providers you find on SA are different from overtly "out" providers that post on STG and the other board? They are taking money and providing sex in return. We can at least be honest with our fellow hobbyists. No female opens an account on SA with any illusions about what most of the men on their are looking for.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;4739674]Incorrect, it depends on the girl. I've done both ways with success prior to the current situation. Some SA girls were OK with the calls. There are many mongers out there that aren't able to sign up for a paid SA account because of their life situation, as I was for a while, and I had a few great experiences because info was shared on this board privately and, of course, because I didn't act like a dick. It's very easy- you don't mention this board and say something like, "Hey, my friend (whatever you and the other monger discuss) gave me your number. " Again, YMMV but it's absolutely not a hard and fast rule.

I think especially these days more SA providers will be willing to increase their client base given that so many are going to be out of work. 6.6 m people applied for unemployment last week and best guesses are that the overall unemployment rate is 13%, the worst since the Great Depression, and that is likely to go up.

SA girls like to act like they aren't prostitutes and treating them differently to their face is how we get what we want out of the situation but here on this forum can we stop acting like providers you find on SA are different from overtly "out" providers that post on STG and the other board? They are taking money and providing sex in return. We can at least be honest with our fellow hobbyists. No female opens an account on SA with any illusions about what most of the men on their are looking for.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. I think the difference with SA is that many ladies are looking to supplement their income or just looking for one or two guys that will give them money. They don't rent hotel rooms and try and see a bunch of guys like ladies on the other sites. They like to go to dinner; they like to try and build some sort of connection. They don't show up at your hotel at 11:00 and are walking out at 11:59. They don't hang up the phone after 30 seconds because you're "wasting their time". They are definitely different and it's why I won't ever use those other sites again. I will agree there are definitely providers on SA and I'm able to weed them out in all of 10 minutes (if they start asking about meeting within during the first convo, then they are just providers pretending to be SBs). For the women that I've seen, EVERY one of them would be beyond mortified if I gave some other guy their name and phone number and he tried to hit them up. If you told 90% of the ladies that I've seen that they were providers, they would be upset and shocked.

Saying that the ladies on SA are not different is like saying we guys are all the same and looking for the same thing. Yes, we all want to get laid (and the ladies all want money), but some of us want to find as many of the hottest, tightest thing they can find that will go BB in all holes and others may want to find one or two attractive ladies to chill with who aren't too demanding. Ladies on SA are just as different as we are.

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[QUOTE=Michael1967;4740085]I respectfully disagree. I think the difference with SA is that many ladies are looking to supplement their income or just looking for one or two guys that will give them money. They don't rent hotel rooms and try and see a bunch of guys like ladies on the other sites. They like to go to dinner; they like to try and build some sort of connection. They don't show up at your hotel at 11:00 and are walking out at 11:59. They don't hang up the phone after 30 seconds because you're "wasting their time". They are definitely different and it's why I won't ever use those other sites again. I will agree there are definitely providers on SA and I'm able to weed them out in all of 10 minutes (if they start asking about meeting within during the first convo, then they are just providers pretending to be SBs). For the women that I've seen, EVERY one of them would be beyond mortified if I gave some other guy their name and phone number and he tried to hit them up. If you told 90% of the ladies that I've seen that they were providers, they would be upset and shocked.

Saying that the ladies on SA are not different is like saying we guys are all the same and looking for the same thing. Yes, we all want to get laid (and the ladies all want money), but some of us want to find as many of the hottest, tightest thing they can find that will go BB in all holes and others may want to find one or two attractive ladies to chill with who aren't too demanding. Ladies on SA are just as different as we are.[/QUOTE]There are always those strippers, escorts, etc working SA bit you can pick up on that right away if you o ow what to look for and if she wants to text right off the bat.

SA has been for me mostly women who are looking for the SB lifestyle and can be a great time of you have a little game, cash and good looks don't hurt. Almost all of them would not want to hear that guys are talking about smashing them for Xxxx and the they do xyz.

I got on again recently and it's been as good as ever. Long visits, multiples, and more like a GFE than most anything you will find on TNA with no attitude (if you have the drama filter on).

I don't post many gals on here since they get fucking blown up as soon as someone posts anything.

I did meet a great gal that loved to get fucked in the ass that any member PM'ed me and it kept it to myself and enjoyed the shit out of it (pun intended).

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4740085]I respectfully disagree. I think the difference with SA is that many ladies are looking to supplement their income or just looking for one or two guys that will give them money. They don't rent hotel rooms and try and see a bunch of guys like ladies on the other sites. They like to go to dinner; they like to try and build some sort of connection. They don't show up at your hotel at 11:00 and are walking out at 11:59. They don't hang up the phone after 30 seconds because you're "wasting their time". They are definitely different and it's why I won't ever use those other sites again. I will agree there are definitely providers on SA and I'm able to weed them out in all of 10 minutes (if they start asking about meeting within during the first convo, then they are just providers pretending to be SBs). For the women that I've seen, EVERY one of them would be beyond mortified if I gave some other guy their name and phone number and he tried to hit them up. If you told 90% of the ladies that I've seen that they were providers, they would be upset and shocked.

Saying that the ladies on SA are not different is like saying we guys are all the same and looking for the same thing. Yes, we all want to get laid (and the ladies all want money), but some of us want to find as many of the hottest, tightest thing they can find that will go BB in all holes and others may want to find one or two attractive ladies to chill with who aren't too demanding. Ladies on SA are just as different as we are.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with any of that. Read my first sentence again, it depends on the provider / girl / sb / whatever. As always, YMMV. My issue was the blanket statement that SA women NEVER are ok with being contacted. Some are, some aren't.

Clearly the SA women "think" they are different was my primary point and even though I play their game to get in their pants I don't think of someone on SA any differently than STG.

I really never had much faith at all in dating sites and although Seeking Arrangements is different I've never tried it.

So the question I have is. Is it still worth it?

I have a feeling that I missed the early golden days of that site, but as I have zero experience with it perhaps I'm wrong.

Anyone care to share their overall recent opinions as to whether or not someone like myself should try it?

Ok fellas I saw this girl finally. She is sexy as hell if you like alternative style girls, and is a lot of fun.

I picked her up and brought her back to my place where we relaxed for a bit and talked before she moved over.

And started kissing on me (no tongue). BBBJ, but covered FS. That was non negotiable. She said "no butt stuff" I didn't offer more though. I forked over $$$ for the time we spent together.

I will definitely repeat with her. I would hop on her before she moves on. Not a pro by any means so grab her before she is gone.

[QUOTE=Kharne;4740462]Ok fellas I saw this girl finally. She is sexy as hell if you like alternative style girls, and is a lot of fun.

I picked her up and brought her back to my place where we relaxed for a bit and talked before she moved over.

And started kissing on me (no tongue). BBBJ, but covered FS. That was non negotiable. She said "no butt stuff" I didn't offer more though. I forked over $$$ for the time we spent together.

I will definitely repeat with her. I would hop on her before she moves on. Not a pro by any means so grab her before she is gone.[/QUOTE]Sorry here is her link [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/431d862c-37d2-4b18-9f95-319fb3eaaf29[/URL].

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be552c57-e31b-42e6-aeed-8c42dfbf86f5[/URL]

The pics are not her but they are close enough. Moved to text, she is into some fun activities. Wants more than 300 per visit but didn't get to even how long that was. Hit her up if you want to try and haggle or want to scratch that Arab itch and have cash like you are an oil sheik.

Just curious, how are girls on SA right now?

Are there more girls willing to meet up due to business shut down?

Or fewer due the disease?

I am wondering if it's worth it go get premium right now. Thanks!!

[QUOTE=Kharne;4740497]Sorry here is her link [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/431d862c-37d2-4b18-9f95-319fb3eaaf29[/URL].[/QUOTE]Saw her last night also. Car fun.

[QUOTE=BillAbc;4743915]Just curious, how are girls on SA right now?

Are there more girls willing to meet up due to business shut down?

Or fewer due the disease?

I am wondering if it's worth it go get premium right now. Thanks!![/QUOTE]Not much exp with the site as I joined at the start of this. I've met with several girls already and in talks with more. Lots are seeking only online arrangements. Guys need to boycott that imo.

[QUOTE=Pooner05;4743984]Saw her last night also. Car fun.[/QUOTE]What did it set you back? She's contacted me several times.

I feel like it really went downhill at the end of 2018. SESTA-FOSTA, BP Closure among others forced a lot of Pros to SA and thus a lot of the drama that comes with that.

[QUOTE=StreetTroller;4740351]I really never had much faith at all in dating sites and although Seeking Arrangements is different I've never tried it.

So the question I have is. Is it still worth it?

I have a feeling that I missed the early golden days of that site, but as I have zero experience with it perhaps I'm wrong.

Anyone care to share their overall recent opinions as to whether or not someone like myself should try it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pooner05;4744198]Not much exp with the site as I joined at the start of this. I've met with several girls already and in talks with more. Lots are seeking only online arrangements. Guys need to boycott that imo[/QUOTE]What I've come across is GPS and refusing to meet in person. Just give them money for nothing.

She's back. Atlanta now, LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bdf1f219-37fd-45b9-bde4-dd7db9dee5fc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Irwin18;4745951]What I've come across is GPS and refusing to meet in person. Just give them money for nothing.[/QUOTE]It's a numbers game. Seems like every three or so girls who want online only, I find one willing to meet. My month sub is expiring in a week so I'm seeking out those who meet to get numbers and keep things going. What's gps BTW?

[QUOTE=CreamPieGuy543;4744608]I feel like it really went downhill at the end of 2018. SESTA-FOSTA, BP Closure among others forced a lot of Pros to SA and thus a lot of the drama that comes with that.[/QUOTE]That is around the time when I joined, and even then I have had a blast. True that there is a lot of weeding needed. Specially when you are new you are going to be contacted by pros disguised as SBs, and yeah there are a lot of girls that believe people would give them money for non-sexual activities. That being said SA is not for everybody, the YMMV factor is huge there, some people could have a blast while others could have a creepy experience, depending on your social skills, your looks, personality and your approach, if you come with a TNA mentality, treating them as escorts you are going to have a bad time. It also depends a lot on what you are looking for. If you are targeting late 20's to late 30's MILFs your experiences (and strategies) are going to be very different than if you are targeting hot young college girls.

[QUOTE=Pooner05;4744198]Not much exp with the site as I joined at the start of this. I've met with several girls already and in talks with more. Lots are seeking only online arrangements. Guys need to boycott that imo.[/QUOTE]It slowed down with the crisis. I usually pay the premium membership for a month or two, collect a whole bunch of leads and then let my premium expire for a couple of months and iterate.

While my premium is off I monitor how many messages I have gotten (since I can't read them) and if a super hot user has contacted sometimes that makes me pay the membership.

I have not paid the premium membership for a couple of months now and the number and quality of contacts I have gotten so far have been considerable lower that before this started, so yeah it seems this is not a good time to join.

That being said my three SBs from my regular rotation want to meet, but I as I am being serious about the self-quarantine I have not seen them in over a month (and no I would not give you their contact info :) ).

[QUOTE=Rjx1234;4746055]She's back. Atlanta now, LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bdf1f219-37fd-45b9-bde4-dd7db9dee5fc[/URL][/QUOTE]Yet the ad still touts that she is "a Seattle local and love the city".

Found this ad on her. Also claims to be in Atlanta.

[URL]https://theclassifieds.nl/Ads/ViewAd.aspx?adID=108302[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rjx1234;4746055]She's back. Atlanta now, LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bdf1f219-37fd-45b9-bde4-dd7db9dee5fc[/URL][/QUOTE]

Even more interesting. ChilLGuy33 who claimed to have seen her here in Seattle is the one who posted yesterday in Atlanta that he came across the ad and asking if anyone had any Intel. Probably an alt of all the other guys that had "seen her" here. Post #5347

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?12786-BBBJ-and-BBFS&p=4745785&viewfull=1#post4745785


[QUOTE=HuksAlot;4747365]Found this ad on her. Also claims to be in Atlanta.

[URL]https://theclassifieds.nl/Ads/ViewAd.aspx?adID=108302[/URL][/QUOTE]

Sorry, I screwed up the link on previous post.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?12786-BBBJ-and-BBFS&p=4745785&viewfull=1[/URL]#post4745785.

[QUOTE=Chingados;4747428]Even more interesting. ChilLGuy33 who claimed to have seen her here in Seattle is the one who posted yesterday in Atlanta that he came across the ad and asking if anyone had any Intel. Probably an alt of all the other guys that had "seen her" here. Post #5347

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?12786-BBBJ-and-BBFS&p=4745785&viewfull=1#post4745785[/QUOTE]

IMO, the ones that claim to have seen her, are her.

[QUOTE=Chingados;4747428]Even more interesting. ChilLGuy33 who claimed to have seen her here in Seattle is the one who posted yesterday in Atlanta that he came across the ad and asking if anyone had any Intel. Probably an alt of all the other guys that had "seen her" here. Post #5347

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?12786-BBBJ-and-BBFS&p=4745785&viewfull=1#post4745785[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrYellow;4748287]IMO, the ones that claim to have seen her, are her.[/QUOTE]It might not even be a her.

I don't think there is evidence that anybody has met her. What's her scam, does she ask for money upfront?

[QUOTE=BillAbc;4743915]Just curious, how are girls on SA right now?

Are there more girls willing to meet up due to business shut down?

Or fewer due the disease?

I am wondering if it's worth it go get premium right now. Thanks!![/QUOTE]It's really hit or miss, with a lot of misses. SA in the Tacoma area is loaded with pro's and GPS syndrome - "Send me 100 bucks for a nude pic," "Need 500 to meet," etc. That said, if one puts in the time and works to filter out the pros and money grubbers, it is possible to find a decent regular thing. Pro-tip: If you're spending more than 300 for all access. No holds barred. Cream all holes. Unlimited time with a hot young thing, you're a sucker spending way too much.

My theory. It's all one dude trolling, getting his rocks off. There is no "her. ".

[QUOTE=DrYellow;4748287]IMO, the ones that claim to have seen her, are her.[/QUOTE]

Quoted me 400/ hr. I didn't pull the trigger, since it's not what I'm looking for, but just wanted to share.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/864fff79-843a-4dc3-803d-1dcf48e41103[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chingados;4749749]My theory. It's all one dude trolling, getting his rocks off. There is no "her. ".[/QUOTE]This makes more sense because if it was a "her", she'd definitely have made it about the money.

Anyway.

It's becoming clear that we're dealing with escorts on SA if they're charging by the hour. All this is tempting me to hit up an old SB.

[QUOTE=AsianGiant;4749885]Quoted me 400/ hr. I didn't pull the trigger, since it's not what I'm looking for, but just wanted to share.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/864fff79-843a-4dc3-803d-1dcf48e41103[/URL][/QUOTE]I had FaceTimed with her and she was much less attractive in real life than pics.

[QUOTE=Pooner05;4750734]I had FaceTimed with her and she was much less attractive in real life than pics.[/QUOTE]Anytime you see a heavily filtered picture like that, it's always going to be the case.

[QUOTE=Chingados;4749749]My theory. It's all one dude trolling, getting his rocks off. There is no "her. ".[/QUOTE]I don't even know why you guys are still talking about this "girl". The BEST case scenario is that it's a guy who just enjoys catfishing. From the moment her profile was posted, it was an obvious fake. You guys need to tune your radars better before you put yourselves in a bad situation.

[QUOTE=Pooner05;4750734]I had FaceTimed with her and she was much less attractive in real life than pics.[/QUOTE]I figured. Plus, given the photos, its hard to tell what her body actually looks like.

I just find it amusing that he posted asking for Intel on another city's board under the same handle he claimed to have seen her here. Like he could put a little more effort into his ruse, haha!

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;4750788]I don't even know why you guys are still talking about this "girl". The BEST case scenario is that it's a guy who just enjoys catfishing. From the moment her profile was posted, it was an obvious fake. You guys need to tune your radars better before you put yourselves in a bad situation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chingados;4749749]My theory. It's all one dude trolling, getting his rocks off. There is no "her. ".[/QUOTE]When she first hit the board I was texting her and she seemed reel sent me another pic of her in doggy style getting fucked.

She said her first cream pie was at 15 .

She said her phone was blowing up and asked where I got her number. I told her a website. She said cool like it turned her on.

She said she was available on the weekend but I never followed up. Then I reached out a couple weeks ago and no reply.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ce4d6fa3-1917-4cfa-bb31-f7cbe6720f06[/URL]

Hey all, just started talking with her and she has been on the site since 2018 but says she isn't moved up here. Anyone have any intel?

I noticed a lot of SA girls are now putting their SA user handles in the Seeking section. Are those Instagram I'd's? Tinder profiles?

Saw this little short thick w hore. Over the weekend. Iw as very polite to her in communicating. $$$ for a about 90 minutes. Pounded her cervix. She clearly enjoys getting pounded and did not protest bbfscip.