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MH No1 Nina has high looks and high service. She is pre-MILF, and her face is beautiful. Her body is even better, it is similar and compares well with three other similar bodies: MH Cherry, SBC Freesia, and SBC Angel. [B]Her body is better than all of them[/B]. I'm not sure what the best nickname would be for this body type but it is: Skinny, full MM tits, very skinny waist, white body, good ass, and "not short". It is a beautiful white body TOAS, basically perfect neck down thanks to carefully selected upgrades. All four girls. I will temporarily nickname this [B]PWTM[/B] for "Perfect White TOAS Model body" This differentiates these girls from Team Seven body type which is just very skinny and shorter but well-proportioned (petite slender model rather than stocky midget). PWTM is what more normal guys like, most guys do not like Team Seven type.
I don't know if I'll review other LA jgirls for a while. If no one else reviews jgirls I understand, but it will go just back to uncharted waters again thereafter.[/QUOTE]If only there were more Team Seven body type girls here. They are so hard to find here, but so plentiful in Asia.
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[QUOTE=Optional;7402366]If only there were more Team Seven body type girls here. They are so hard to find here, but so plentiful in Asia.[/QUOTE]
As you may know, the typical Team Seven body girl in Asia has a C or D face (if not even worse) so you'd be lucky and happy if you found even a B-Tier face on such a girl. [B]Juliya[/B] was borderline S / A face (see face guide below), she was actually a face over body Team Seven girl which makes her a true unicorn. Borderline S/A face, putting her in mid A-Tier overall. Several guys were very eager to see her upon meeeting her beautiful face. But then when her clothes dropped, they hesitated. Some turned 180 and left, but others were bold instead. This is why I gave this exact advice on Juliya:
[QUOTE=Download X;7396926]Final tip (on Juliya), if you get in the shower with her check if your erection gets bigger or smaller for clues.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7396926&viewfull=1#post7396926[/URL] Juliya Face guide
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=784838&d=1758303042[/URL] Juliya face model (needs adjustments)
Juliya's face is so good she is ranked in-between a 600 hr kgirl and a 500 hr jgirl. She is 20 and her face looks 20, 1/2 tier higher than Lizza's face who was also about 20. Of course, it is up to taste so some guys consider her a unicorn while others run away after seeing no tits. And that is really my goal, to make sure each guy picks the right girl for him. I really don't care what a guys' taste is, I can still help him pick the right one.
While checking out BB No1 Asuka, I got info on [B]BB No2 Candy[/B] (Viet) who has a really great high tier body. Skinny and hot. For 200 hh she's amazing value especially if you are a body first guy. BB No5 Kitty was a nice civvie GND girl, so good if you want that vibe. Every girl had something good about them so it's up to taste, a certain guy will definitely love them. Most of the girls have a down to earth civvie feel, it is nice.
Please stop PMing me with screening questions, I've always said every time I can't help. I focus on girls and not shops, so this info is for regulars only. I will also move on to reviewing other places anyways, including places I have never been to (and never will). In those cases, I saw the girl at a different place and got multiple confirmations. YZ No4 for example.
About pricing, corgs had way hotter girls than korgs but korgs have more consistent service and better hr and bb prices. Corgs win on hh prices and premium looks. My best average service is still from Thai girls, but mainly because there are more jgirl and kgirl duds. The best girls come from unicorns of every race however. Some further thoughts:
[QUOTE=Download X;7402461]Prices are going up every city..I point this out periodically but don't want to get into it much since it doesn't help anyone and mostly makes people sad. But the upside is when I focus on the top girls the value is definitely there. The average looks is slowly going up. Service is all over the place but there are some exceptional girls too. To get value, the key is sharing enough intel so guys know who is hot and in particular can pick their type of girl. Guys who want skinny girls should choose skinny, guys who want bigger or thicker should choose that, there are boob guys, guys who want a good pussy, and so on. Everyone gets improved value by match making and picking their type of girl "for free".
..I will just talk corg pricing.[/QUOTE]
Budget is 200 hh, and at a shop with standards it's actually a solid value. Some hot girls are 250-260 hh and 400-450 hr. It is really up to taste..it is very divisive where half the people I know love her (some even more than me) but the other half want a bigger full-bodied girl with busty tits. The 300 hh 500 hr girls are always better in some way (not necessarily my type but definitely another guys' type). For example one girl was full bodied and gorgeous face like a model but not my type. Another guy got 3 shots from her, high tier service, so he was happy. A few girls are 400 hh and 600 hr, again up to taste. ATF for me, but other friends found her cute and beautiful rather than sexy (I prefer cute and beautiful). So maximum S-Tier for me, but not for some other guy especially at that price. There is always a logical reason for pricing even if it doesn't appeal to some guys.
There are three legends I can't publish. For exmaple My Harem Gathers for Dinner, Sideye from Mamasan, and My ATF Tries BBC Late At Night. Instead, I will share The Lone HYA Hunter and The Ultimate Kindness.
[B]The Lone HYA Hunter[/B]
Of hundreds of girls I’ve seen over decades, some were a little beautiful and a few were very beautiful. Even fewer were very special. I have had to say goodbye forever to many of them. It reminds me of Kenshin, whose true love gave him two scars he carried for life. It became his most cherished memory and all he had left of her. And so he threw away his true sword while abandoning his old ways, roaming the lands as a ronin (aka Ruroni). By adpopting to new ways and a new world, he finally discovered his new true love and could die in the arms of a beautiful woman.
Im the same way, I said goodbye forever to my first ATF long ago. I was lost and ended up making rosters as a way to cope. Perhaps to find my next true ATF. It was hard on my body interviewing one HYA candidate after another, but don't worry I'm alright.
[B]The Ultimate Kindness[/B]
My first ATF warned me long in advance that she would retire. It is not info I would repeat to anyone else, for it could do nothing but cause trouble to say too clearly. Only hints. That is when I started roaming the lands, curious if there was any other girl who could match her. In a way, there never was. But apart from how much I liked her, she did give me The Ultimate Kindness. It was the same true gift that many Nali and MH Cherry fans privately got. [B]A sincere goodbye forever from her heart[/B].
I never forgot. That is why I became a wanderer, and I even experienced HYA Hunter Ascension in the process. My hands looked the same as before, but I feel different for the rest of my life. And for the better - my eyes are forever open during appointments now. There are many such lone HYA Hunters now. The quality of girls has shifted as high service girls retire without being replaced. But some replacements do have high looks at least. There is no stopping that shift in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Download X;7401228][B]HYA Hunter Ascension[/B]
Why did I write the Lizza guide? So that some guys try it, and maybe surprisingly like the results. That is the process of [B]HYA Hunter Ascension[/B]. Lately, it is getting more common.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7389052&viewfull=1#post7389052[/URL] The Lizza Guide and other tips
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37254-Korean-Agency-and-Independent&p=7401753&viewfull=1#post7401753[/URL] Legends collection
I have a certian type, and by that metric I did finally find a maximum S-Tier jgirl. I don't expect others to agree. But there is a prophecy about kgirls. One day, a maximum S-Tier kgirl will appear through HYA+ Ascension like a phoenix reborn. This is the "looks only" version of Dragon Ascension. Service hunters roll their eyes, but HYA hunters hop in their cars when word spreads.
It is nice that when a S-Tier jgirl appears, guys show up to appreciate and love her. Oddly, this is not always so for an S-Tier kgirl. So I cannot clarify further until the abusers are weeded out. But I believe.
Attached are reference face models, Go Mal-Sook (GMS) and Wonyoung. GMS is cute and beautiful, whereas Wonyoung is beautiful and sexy. For my own taste, GMS is maximum S-Tier face. I prefer cute over sexy, with beautiful always being a plus. Cute and beautiful is the same spec as MH Yua. There is no doubt in the world I would GMS or MH Yua's face over Wonyoung. I know that is a minority opinion and mysterious to other guys, but we each have our type. Wonyoung does rank high at upper S-Tier face and I recognize her beauty even if she is not my type. To be clear, it is only like a 1/4 tier gap. Maybe another guy says Wonyoung is 1/4 tier higher which would mean we are 1/2 gap apart. Not a big difference, you can still use my rankings with that context in mind. Nobody is saying either girl is not beautiful, just don't expect to agree in detail.
My rankings go all the way down to F-Tier but I dare not publish the lower half. I used to toftt every single girl, I know how it really is. It perfectly lines up with Boner's guide which says 55% MILF (age 40 and up). Once I used only intel to see girls, I averaged B tier and then A tier. It distorts my rankings list but it is clear enough that S-Tier is still top 4% of all girls - but not of the girls I'm seeing anymore. Oh be sure of that.
Wonyoung has a permanent RBF in her lips and eyes. See for yourself, its like she thinks she's better than you in every single photo (it's not her fault she just has RBF). It gives her a sexy look but is a major weakness to any guy looking for cute. I just point this out so there is no expectation that two different guys would rank girls the same way. Even though it's usually not far off either. The funny thing is the moment I step foot in Japan, my taste becomes majority taste. It is just common sense that women should be young, cute, and beautiful. Not sexy. In Japan, Wonyoung is a high ranking "alternative style" in other words.
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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7402534]As you may know, the typical Team Seven body girl in Asia has a C or D face (if not even worse) so you'd be lucky and happy if you found even a B-Tier face on such a girl. [B]Juliya[/B] was borderline S / A face (see face guide below), she was actually a face over body Team Seven girl which makes her a true unicorn. Borderline S/A face, putting her in mid A-Tier overall. Several guys were very eager to see her upon meeeting her beautiful face. But then when her clothes dropped, they hesitated. Some turned 180 and left, but others were bold instead. This is why I gave this exact advice on Juliya:
[/QUOTE]Of course, this is all up to taste, but I respectfully disagree on that. I've had countless Team Seven girls with A or S-tier faces in Thailand, Laos, China, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and even Singapore. They are definitely plentiful if you know where to look. But again, everyone's taste is different. My A-tier could be your C-tier, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Optional;7402698]Of course, this is all up to taste, but I respectfully disagree on that. I've had countless Team Seven girls with A or S-tier faces in Thailand, Laos, China, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and even Singapore. They are definitely plentiful if you know where to look. But again, everyone's taste is different. My A-tier could be your C-tier, LOL.[/QUOTE]Of course you're right. What I meant is walking down the street there are C-Tier Team Sevens. Or when browsing the shops. If you are selective, you will eventually find the better ones. You know more than me on that. My observation was mainly in Japan. Speaking generally, between face and body there are many times you get one right but not the other is what I mean. I've never gotten such a girl who was fs, meaning the better looking girls tend to gravitate towards light establishments like maid cafes and non-fs shops.
This "multi-spec" idea is why the S-Tier pussy list has so many butterface girls. There is no strong correlation between pussy quality and face quality in other words. The girl I repeated the very most in Japan was a butterface with S-Tier pussy. She told me I should book her two hours and it was something like $80 extra depending on the exchange rate. I booked her on my phone in front of her in my last minute, before saying goodbye. We could play two hours with generous breaks in-between, I couldn't believe it. I think she actually enjoyed it more than me, she was always happier and warmer after the appointment than before we started. It is hard to describe S-Tier pussy until you actually experience it. You can go forever without nutting and it feels amazing. This girl was in ecstasy. With TAE, the 2-hour rate is really good value.
I used to wonder if pussy quality was ymmv or very subjective, since there is the issue of size matching. But every time I asked someone about a girl who had S-Tier pussy, without a doubt they'd agree even if they didn't like a girl. When even someone who doesn't like a girl agrees with someone who does about a particular spec, that is a good sign about the spec. Such girls included, CAKD Hanni, Lizza, Tomi, Monet, MH Nina, CAKD Yua, and a few others retired.
There is confirmation that YZ No4 is Nina, and the feedback was good. I love learning new info. Her body is like a taller version of [B]Elle[/B], though Elle was tanned and she is white body. I never knew Elle but often hear of her. I asked their body opinion between Elle, No4 aka Nina, and Angel since they are similar shape. They said it is too hard to compare, but Angel is better to look at and bang while Nina will fuck back. Makes perfect sense to me. Nina is very toned and works out. I asked how about tits rankings between the three and they said MH Cherry LOL. I never knew Elle but yes MH Cherry had amazing tits in look and feel, she had the very best tits I had experienced in my life up to that point. Thank you for that intel.
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[QUOTE=Optional;7398389]I've often wondered why c-orgs are so much more expensive than k-orgs. The average rate for hh is 300 for a c-org, which would be roughly a full hour for the average k-org girl.[/QUOTE]It goes to just the business models of corgs and korgs. Corgs are more volume, turnover, and "get it while it's hot!
Girls will often be priced differently even amongst corgs. At Rowland Heights Bee's club (Bee Bee's House), BB No1 Asuka is $400 but she was $450 at MH.
BB No 2 Candy is Viet, and viet girls are typically $260/ hr, $300/ hr, or $400/ hr. And rarely at korgs.
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[URL]https://vipclub101.wixsite.com/vipclub123[/URL]
It's pretty interesting because if you look at the site for Bee Bee's, the services are often the same.
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[QUOTE=BazookaSteve;7402750]It goes to just the business models of corgs and korgs. Corgs are more volume, turnover, and "get it while it's hot!
Girls will often be priced differently even amongst corgs. At Rowland Heights Bee's club (Bee Bee's House), BB No1 Asuka is $400 but she was $450 at MH.
BB No 2 Candy is Viet, and viet girls are typically $260/ hr, $300/ hr, or $400/ hr. And rarely at korgs.
[URL]https://honeylemon88.com/[/URL]
[URL]https://vipclub101.wixsite.com/vipclub123[/URL]
It's pretty interesting because if you look at the site for Bee Bee's, the services are often the same.[/QUOTE]One more note I'll make is on cgirls like BB No5 Kitty and BB No 4 Xingyue. Some cgirls will be priced higher at certain corgs than others. Kitty is listed at Bee Bee's as $400/ hr.
There's a much wider spectrum of cgirl pricing depending on how hot and young they are. They can be anywhere from $100 at your local AMP, to $300-$360 at a corg agency, or even $800-$2000 for the premium girls that you can only find at a select few corgs.
I think the type of Incall also plays a role. Corgs like Miyahouse and Bee Bee's house are in nice houses (as the name implies), which adds to the higher pricing. A contrast from the cheapest girls being at AMP's or dingy motels. I have also seen some premium priced ($800+) cgirls who can only be outcalled.
But the best balance would be the corgs in neighborhoods that are close to you.
Can you imagine going outside for a morning walk and within 3 minutes of your walk you take a detour to bang a cute cgirl. Maybe get a coffee on the way back, that's the dream LOL. The convenience of this is even better than NYC.
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Website Help
Hello,
I'm going to be moving to the area from Washington DC.
Can you all help show me which websites I should look at to find J girls?
Thanks!
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Sites
[QUOTE=Revvoctolot;7402968]Hello,
I'm going to be moving to the area from Washington DC.
Can you all help show me which websites I should look at to find J girls?
Thanks![/QUOTE]There's quite a few options. Most sites are publicly listed on rentry. Co / kgirls along with locations since LA is so big.
Here are some of the main shops.
[URL]https://honeylemon88.com/[/URL] - Rowland Heights Bee's Club (BB) No 1 Asuka is pretty popular, she worked in NYC a few times.
[URL]https://www.mimi16888.com/[/URL] - Miyahouse.
[URL]https://vipclub101.wixsite.com/vipclub123[/URL] - Multi location, has girls cross listed with Bee Bee's House.
[URL]https://www.sugarasian.org/[/URL] - Multi location, has girls cross listed with Miyahouse.
These are most of the main options. The last two links will have multiple girls listed in multiple different areas across LA.
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Miya House location
I've been drooling over their girls but hesitant about the pricing. Whereabouts in LA are they located?
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Website
I know it's not exactly the right place for it. But I was locked out of this site. For weeks. Anyone else have similar issue and recommended fix?
[QUOTE=Revvoctolot;7402968]Hello,
I'm going to be moving to the area from Washington DC.
Can you all help show me which websites I should look at to find J girls?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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MH and YZ
Anyone tried MH No. 3 or YZ No. 3 or YZ No. 4?
Download X, was your review for YZ No. 4 from last week the same YZ No. 4 that's currently there? Since the turnover is so quick and the girls change numbers so quickly, it's hard to keep track and cross reference reviews with the current lineups!
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[QUOTE=Tbtbfftb;7405405]I know it's not exactly the right place for it. But I was locked out of this site. For weeks. Anyone else have similar issue and recommended fix?[/QUOTE]I've been locked out for a while too. Use [URL]http://usasexguide.nl[/URL] instead of [URL]httpS://usasexguide.nl[/URL].
I have to use a browser that does not automatically re-route to the https version.
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Lily
[QUOTE=Optional;7406189]Anyone tried MH No. 3 or YZ No. 3 or YZ No. 4?
Download X, was your review for YZ No. 4 from last week the same YZ No. 4 that's currently there? Since the turnover is so quick and the girls change numbers so quickly, it's hard to keep track and cross reference reviews with the current lineups![/QUOTE]MH No 3 is Lily, she was worked east coast twice. Did not see her because she was Asian only, but she was pretty popular. Her "short stay" turned into about 3 weeks in total. She may be approaching the end of her tour.
She got a couple reviews on the NOVA board and she has more reviews on her other I'd - 408295.
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[B]MH No3 Lily[/B] - [B]HYA[/B]. Goood face and body, about 20, 55, C cup MMs, whitish skin with light tan, good ass, great figure with curves. Light bush, good pussy, enjoys foreplay, daty, and sex. Lots of tongue play. I don't DFK much so can't confirm, but she was enthusiastic. She has a cute vibe but also newish, so some pros and cons on service. She puts in the effort, but she is still learning skills especially bbbj. Sometimes playful, not PSE or anything but cooperative and a nice smile. Bring some service. Good in bed if you help out. 300 hh cfs is a good value since she is HYA with a good pussy.
MH Lily has a resemblance to [B]Baby Joo[/B]'s face, who by wild coincidence is back on Thursday. I liked Lily's face and think most would agree, some may like it even more than me. Surpringly, her ad photo is pretty close with light PS and filter for privacy. The cloest ad photo is her at a restaurant (90% similar). As for Baby Joo, see CGLA.
Her body type reminds me of Lizza but just in general shape - she has some curves. She may reject guys on size, but it is a combo of size and behavior. I confirmed this with her and her booker so I'm guessing it is case-by-case. She seems to genuinely enjoy foreplay, and if you prepare her properly and start slow it should be no problem if you are a bit big. She is playful and down to earth, no GPS as far as I can tell. Just scared of injury or rough play. Veteran girls tend to learn it's behavior and not size, new girls don't always know that. The upside is if you make such a new girl feel safe and comfortable, she will let you go to town and enjoy it with you.
I think 300 hh is about right. That is similar pricing at korgs for hh except that half the korg girls are MILFs. With korgs you just have to choose carefully, using navigation maps to avoid the dark minefield. For the hr rate, korgs win of course. But the catch is many kgirls at the hr rate expect a break / massage and only a few will play the full hour. A few HYA like Angel are ymmv service and will let you play the full hour if you coach them right continuously. But there is some risk, since some guys dont' bring enough service and then it's frustrating and not fun hitting that wall. Whereas at corgs I noticed if you pay the full hour, they tend to play the full hour since you are paying better for it. It doesn't take much coaching. Just my experience.
[B]MH No2 Zhi Mo[/B] is not far off from her ads either, it is only about 75% similar but more importantly her looks are similar level. Meaning the PS is just for privacy rather than to upgrade her. MH No2 is tall, all natural, but today is her last day. She is good overall, but MH Lily is broader appeal so that's why she gets a more detailed review. I used to list out many borderline girls in rosters, but it is very problematic because some people take that as a full endorsement and complain later. What you have to do with borderline girls is read carefully and pick a girl who checks many boxes. Whereas I think any HYA Hunter would be happy with MH Lily on account of her looks and fun.
I think both girls are pretty fresh with good pussy condition, and there is a paradox with that. I have to keep reviews tame by just plainly listing out their pros and cons so guys can pick a good match. If reviews are too good or too many, we get the Katie K problem where a girl gets slammed too hard with a long train of fans. Then their future performance no longer matches what the original reviews say. Whereas with Kuzumi J, half the reviews were bad and scared away the service hunters, so she didn't get too tired and kept making "looks first" guys who brought their service very happy. It's a case where both good and bad reviews cooperate, they were all honest reviews that mostly agreed.
That is the one upside to 300 hh and 400 hh pricing, and most of the 400 hh girls were full energy and great pussy condition. I'm not the only one who noticed. For those reasons, if a girl I already reviewed comes back later this year, I won't necessarily review her again or emphasize it. I don't want to trigger the paradox, I want the girl to be as good and accurate as the early reviews.
In OC [B]Aoi J[/B] is finishing her tour, her fine natural body and sweet demeaner are her highlights. There are other jgirls but my knees get weak since I know the average jgirl this year has been high C-Tier looks. The average kgirl being lower at low C-Tier. But if anyone knows better, it would be nice to hear more.
Lucky if anyone has seen both MH Lily and Baby Joo to give a further opinion, since the resemblance is there even in ad photos too. The problem with most ad photos is that when it's a MILF or plain girl, they PS her up to look comparable to the better looking girls. The average ad looks 1-2 Tiers better than the girl, especially with the high service girls who rely on service. So you can't tell how good a girl looks by her ad photo without actual intel on the ad accuracy itself. A few girls (maybe 10%) actually look better than their ad but it's not normal.
I'm going to attach Baby Joo's ad photo. It would actually work as an ad for MH Lily. MH Lily in-person looks slightly better than Baby Joo's ad, which is impressive. Lily is clearly young. Both girls are 300 hh, and for many guys that is the best value anyways.
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New J-babes
Any intel on Misaki and Kina with cakdolls, or Saki with CGLA?