BBFS Providers Manhattan

[QUOTE=HinesKarlton;4071453]Bruh.

Are you talking about Hollywood movie acting industry or porn.

Because the first one you actually have to have talent.

The latter anyone can do it.

The days of pornstars making millions off porn are over.

There will be no more Jenna Jameson's Lisa Ann's Ava Devine Sasha grey.

The porn industry is very low paying now.

They took a hit with the free porn and people not paying for porn anymore.

Chicks in average are getting paid 800-1200 per scene.

Some even less. There is no money in porn.

These Thots are charging dudes 1500-2000 to fuck them because they know dudes jerk off to their vids.

Fuxk out of here.[/QUOTE]I don't know where you get your info but, from what the girls are saying, things haven't changed on their side. There are plenty of girls still demanding, and getting, big bucks for scenes. While this is slightly old, from what I'm told, it's still accurate, with some girls that have been around in the industry for a few years getting more: [URL]https://www.dailydot.com/irl/porn-star-salaries-income/[/URL].

Jenna Jameson and the others you mention didn't get their money from doing scenes. They got their money from running their own businesses and producing porn as well. They also have pay web sites where they got roughly $40-$50 per month from millions of subscribers who wanted access to the content they put up exclusively on their site. Porn stars are still doing this. There's still plenty of money in porn. The porn industry is reportedly worth upwards of $90 billion.

Yes, there's a lot of free porn on the Internet. Most of it is clips. The majority of the rest are behind pay sites of one kind or another where you're paying a monthly fee to get access. The rest. The places that are showing whole scenes and even whole movies for free. Well, they won't be around for long. From what I hear, the industry is planning to take the tactic that the music industry did and start getting the sites that are illegally offering these movies shut down. I don't know for sure what will happen since I'm not a lawyer or involved at that end of the industry but, it wouldn't surprise me if the companies started taking action.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4071883]Talking about girls that have appeared in Brazzers etc.

Yes, there are definitely a lot fewer A-listers. But the ones that remain are still on TLC and Lourdes. And yes, eventually they'll get older and have to charge a lot less too.

I've had situations where a semi-older, but well known and still fairly attractive pornstar or two tried to over charge me, to which my response was similar to yours: F*ck out of here (though I said it in a nicer way).

You're right about the general trend, but I think it's going to take a while for the rest of the hobbying world to catch on and realize that they can get better deals.

Also, when you're looking for BBFSCIP and other extras, it significantly narrows your options. So you're kinda stuck with whoever you're stuck with, unless you want to endlessly fish through a bunch of "no I don't do that". So far, I feel like the ratio I tend to see is about 10 to 1 (for every 10 or so providers I ask, 1 of them agrees). And you also run the risk of being blacklisted if you run into a provider or agent who doesn't like the fact that you asked for it. So, sometimes it's best not to try your luck too much.

I've also seen that once you've seen a provider once, if they like you, they're more willing to give you a better rate sometimes significantly lower than what you've mentioned.

But I'm pretty new to this anyway. Been only doing this for about a year, and I've only seen 8 porn stars so far. Maybe with more experience I'll get better at negotiating?[/QUOTE]FWIW, it's very easy to get around blacklisting these days if (a) you don't use your real name and always use an alias and (b) don't use your real phone number.

There are apps like [URL]https://www.burnerapp.com/[/URL] that lets you create burner numbers on the fly, and get rid of them when you don't need them any more. So, if someone blacklists you, you just change the burner number you're using and move on to the next escort or agency.

[QUOTE=Juliansntg69;4071958]There was a girl in NYC about 3-4 yrs ago with that name who had alot of positive reviews. Where did you find the ads?[/QUOTE]Switter. Same girl. I remember nearly seeing her a few years ago but something came up. Will take one for team when she is next in town and let you know.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4072128]I don't know anyone more submissive than Ashley Taylor. .

Does Talia do outcall or only incall? I'll be in Westchester soon and might want her to visit me.[/QUOTE]I think she is only incall, either in NYC or Secaucus most days.

But back to Ashley Taylor. How submissive exactly is she? Does she receive watersports? That was always what got me going back to Gina Rollins, although I wouldn't say it's submissiveness per-se, but her desire to leave me totally drained. BBFSCIP followed by a golden shower and then BBFSCIA is just about the best way to finish off a week, but I haven't found anyone but Gina who does that. (I guess Alexis Cain and Amanda Manhattan do as well, but neither are really my type).

White girl Emma Grace at lear talent is BBFS friendly. She's a spinner / small As. GFE overall. You'll like her.

[QUOTE=DrewBe;4073393]I think she is only incall, either in NYC or Secaucus most days.

But back to Ashley Taylor. How submissive exactly is she? Does she receive watersports? That was always what got me going back to Gina Rollins, although I wouldn't say it's submissiveness per-se, but her desire to leave me totally drained. BBFSCIP followed by a golden shower and then BBFSCIA is just about the best way to finish off a week, but I haven't found anyone but Gina who does that. (I guess Alexis Cain and Amanda Manhattan do as well, but neither are really my type).[/QUOTE]Watersports and submissiveness are two different things. I know plenty of submissive women who do not do watersports.

I don't believe Ashley engages in watersports but it's not my thing so I didn't ask. But I don't recall anyone ever mentioning it. I'm not sure Alexis or Amanda do that either. It's kind of more of a niche than BBFS, I think.

[QUOTE=Kinosellis;4075693]White girl Emma Grace at lear talent is BBFS friendly. She's a spinner / small As. GFE overall. You'll like her.[/QUOTE]Site is password protected. What does she look like?

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4037882]Based on the fact that she asks guys to supply champagne or wine, I'm guessing she's probably an alcoholic. That's probably also why she seems flaky.[/QUOTE]BBFS ladies.

Veronica of desiresofnewyork. Not on schedule now but came two times visit from North Carolina this past year.

Tara of Dreamgirls who is either on vacation or moved on this past month not on schedule.

Talia. YMMV. Was during her GC days. As indy, I have not visited again.

Adrianna / Brianna. UTR or retired.

Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked out.

Autumn. Miss her badly.

Addie. Allows all now at Diamonds.

Is Ivanka going by another name?

[QUOTE=ZenMeister007;4077287]BBFS ladies

Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked ouT

Is Ivanka going by another name?[/QUOTE]Ivanka yes is going by another name.

As for your comment on dr Liza I guess we have different standard.

Hello all, unfortunately my first post doesn't add anyone new. But I have seen Gina Rollins a few times, once as a duo with Alexis. Both are as advertised, and Alexis really seems to get off when you CIP her. Tried to set up an appointment with Gina and her new friend Gabrielle today but sadly she is away for the holidays. I hope to be able to share more soon but wanted to break the ice. Happy hunting all.

[QUOTE=ZenMeister007;4077287]BBFS ladies.

Veronica of desiresofnewyork. Not on schedule now but came two times visit from North Carolina this past year.

Tara of Dreamgirls who is either on vacation or moved on this past month not on schedule.

Talia. YMMV. Was during her GC days. As indy, I have not visited again.

Adrianna / Brianna. UTR or retired.

Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked out.

Autumn. Miss her badly.

Addie. Allows all now at Diamonds.

Is Ivanka going by another name?[/QUOTE]Tara is YMMV. She does not openly do it anymore. She had gotten a bf so she moved away from those services. At the very least don't walk in expecting it to be a guarantee.

[QUOTE=ZenMeister007;4077287]BBFS ladies.

Addie. Allows all now at Diamonds.

Is Ivanka going by another name?[/QUOTE]Addie. Do you mean [URL]nydiamondgirls.com[/URL]? If so, they've changed their name again. The link takes you to [URL]http://mvpescorts.com/[/URL] and Addie is no longer listed.

Ivanka. She's gone by a number of different names. And there are a number of girls now in NYC using the name Ivanka. I wonder why. Anyway, I'd heard that the one that did BBFS if you brought champagne had moved. Someone told me she's now in Vegas. Don't know if she's there permanently, on tour, or splits her time between there and NYC though.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4077050]Site is password protected. What does she look like?[/QUOTE]White, young, blond type. About 5' Tall. Still has that baby fat. GND look.

[QUOTE=ZenMeister007;4077287]BBFS ladies.


Talia. YMMV. Was during her GC days. As indy, I have not visited again

Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked out.


Is Ivanka going by another name?[/QUOTE]Talia- saw her after she went independent. Was very adamant that FS is always covered.

Dr. Liza sent me an email saying she has retired as she has a 9-5 now.

Ivanka moved away to the west coast last I heard.

[QUOTE=Martin0028;4078910]Talia- saw her after she went independent. Was very adamant that FS is always covered.

Dr. Liza sent me an email saying she has retired as she has a 9-5 now.

Ivanka moved away to the west coast last I heard.[/QUOTE]Damn you for real. Good for Liza but damn that sucks she's out was a damn good lay.