"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2482216]
Desperado "Not necessary, I think we are past that". " Don't count on it. With a "Freeby" comes IRL expectations. Be very careful.[/QUOTE]I'm sure you're right. I'm definitely old enough to know that there is no such thing as free pussy. Quick backstory, this is my married girl. We started when she had broken off her engagement, contimued through the reconciliation, the "should I or shouldn't I" get married phase, and the wedding. We had a break for a while but got back together recently. She is frustrated in married life (shocker, right?) and told me that she hadn't had an O in a couple of months. When you combine fighting about money and not good sex, why be married? So for now I am meeting her needs in one department, but I am sure the other shoe will drop at some point.

Bro's.

I am back here after 1 year break to go for summer fishing. If any of you like to exchange notes. I know not so preferred. But occasionally please PM me. In RIC, see-Ville area.

Cheers.

KG.

[QUOTE=BradAM;2482855]I recently welcomed a new member to my hunting grounds. I offered the following advice that I thought might be worth sharing more broadly. Please let me know if you think it has value.
As I said before, it's a numbers game. The larger the base, the larger each successive, higher level. T
Any comments from my brothers?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's true. But here is my perspective from a fisherman who doesn't have a lot of time or flexibility to get out much. If you are available a lot, and have the time and money to date multiple Pots and line up (and service) all those accounts by all means do it. But here's an example where that approach can go wrong. I have had miserable luck getting Pots even to a M&G-until now. All of a sudden Pots are flowing over and as of last week I had 5 active Babies pushing me for a meet. There is no way I can meet 5 Pots and get them to the FC as well. I neither have the time or money available. So I have had to concentrate on only 2 who are still in the game but not in the FC yet. The other three I had to push off. And we all know that they will move on to work other brothers.

So if you are limited focus on a few rather than try to work too many. Once you flake on them you might not have the opportunity to go back to the well.

I despise the new format! They recently stopped servicing the old form and I can not get the same info from the new. I tried to pull up a favored and viewed list and the same search page keeps coming up. We need a tutorial on the new system. I think it is not working correctly.

Zcochran00 thanks for putting that together. It is profoundly helpful. The security posts especially.

Jeezlizard was right that no one should be placing commentary or discussion posts on the index thread. It should stay as a strictly index type thread. Having said that I wish I didn't place my comment on it. I tried to go back and delete it, but it was too late. Sorry about that.

You should be able to "report" the post by clicking the link in the bottom left corner of it. Select that's it's yours and put why you want it gone. Admin should oblige. I've done this before.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2483534]Zcochran00 thanks for putting that together. It is profoundly helpful. The security posts especially.

Jeezlizard was right that no one should be placing commentary or discussion posts on the index thread. It should stay as a strictly index type thread. Having said that I wish I didn't place my comment on it. I tried to go back and delete it, but it was too late. Sorry about that.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2483534]Zcochran00 thanks for putting that together. It is profoundly helpful. The security posts especially.

Jeezlizard was right that no one should be placing commentary or discussion posts on the index thread. It should stay as a strictly index type thread. Having said that I wish I didn't place my comment on it. I tried to go back and delete it, but it was too late. Sorry about that.[/QUOTE]Hit the report post button in the corner of your post and ask A2 to remove it. It will be taken care of.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2483521]I despise the new format! They recently stopped servicing the old form and I can not get the same info from the new. I tried to pull up a favored and viewed list and the same search page keeps coming up. We need a tutorial on the new system. I think it is not working correctly.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Never used the old site layout, but this one seems pretty straightforward:

* Filter by profile contents on the left (location, physical attributes, text, background).

* Hit the big red "Search" button to retrieve those results.

* Filter by non-profile attributes at the top (viewed, favorited, etc). Each checkbox click reruns the search using the same profile choices and the new non-profile choices.

So, if I want to search for new college girls in my city I haven't seen yet:

* Set profile options to appropriate city / distance / age range.

* Hit "Search".

* Click the "College" checkbox, wait for reload, click the "Unviewed" checkbox, wait for reload, choose "Newest Profile" from the "Sort" dropdown.

Or, in your case:

* Set profile options, "Search", click "Viewed" checkbox. Note that selecting "Favorited" AND "Viewed" probably isn't going to do you much good, because you've almost definitely viewed everyone you've favorited.

I actually had missed the "Viewed" / "Unviewed" options in there until just now. I'd used "Favorite" and "Favorited Me", but somehow my eyes didn't notice the others.

Hope that helps.

I met a stunning little 20 why / o Asian co-ed (could be Asa Akira's younger sister) last June from SA. Met her for lunch and we hit it off so well it was off to the FC right after. It did not take long to figure out she was very new to not only being a SB, but to sex in general. Being the loving, caring SD that I am, I quickly decided to take on teaching this young lady the ways of pleasing a SD. She went from awful in the FC to a superstar in the FC in a matter of weeks. A young lady who was eager to please, submissive in nature, and who took direction very, very well. Eventually all holes were available. And, all this for $150 + the SS. Usually went for 3 hours and as many loads as I could muster up. I could have fallen in love had we been closer in age. Today, I get the text message we all hate to get. She's not going to be able to see me anymore because she is now in a relationship. I wished her well, told her I was happy for her, and if at some point she is no longer in a relationship and wants to get together, just let me know.

It was great while it lasted. Rarely do we get someone so green that we can mold them into the exact girl in the FC that we want. I will miss her, but as I always say, NEXT!

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;2484576]I met a stunning little 20 why / o Asian co-ed (could be Asa Akira's younger sister) last June from SA. Met her for lunch and we hit it off so well it was off to the FC right after. It did not take long to figure out she was very new to not only being a SB, but to sex in general. Being the loving, caring SD that I am, I quickly decided to take on teaching this young lady the ways of pleasing a SD. She went from awful in the FC to a superstar in the FC in a matter of weeks. A young lady who was eager to please, submissive in nature, and who took direction very, very well. Eventually all holes were available. And, all this for $150 + the SS. Usually went for 3 hours and as many loads as I could muster up. I could have fallen in love had we been closer in age. Today, I get the text message we all hate to get. She's not going to be able to see me anymore because she is now in a relationship. I wished her well, told her I was happy for her, and if at some point she is no longer in a relationship and wants to get together, just let me know.

It was great while it lasted. Rarely do we get someone so green that we can mold them into the exact girl in the FC that we want. I will miss her, but as I always say, NEXT![/QUOTE]I tell most girls that I am seeing regularly to think of me as a stepping stone. So make the most of it while you can. Because my history is that its not going to last. But that doesn't mean we can't have a blast for as long as it does. Young girls need mentoring, guidance and good sex (and money). Nothing wrong with that.

I had an x from a few years ago recently thank me for all the help I gave her, financially and with her self esteem. She was a scared little girl when I met her, jumping from man to man. Now she makes her own plans and carries herself like the sexy young lady she always was. They may move on (or we may move them on) but they dont forget. I like to think I am making the world a better place for me and for them.

I know most ppl look down on what we do and have terrible names they like to call us. Some are well intentioned but most are clueless. I was an atm before and found that there were some benefits to that, but mostly I just attracted gold diggers. Now some call me cheap, but I am not cheap with my real world help, the above mentioned instruction (that one day may land them the hubby of their dreams) and a shoulder to lean on in the mean time. As far as I am concerned thats priceless.

Of course we all have our booty call babes (I used her, she used me, but neither one cared) but for a girl to be long term SB she has to be lifting my self esteem as well. And thats the main ingredient in attracting these girls. At least the ones I go after.

I just spoke to my first wife that I divorced 34 years ago (and with whom I had no children) and she had nothing but nice things to say and then bitched at me for not staying more in touch. Because to this day I am still the only one she can tell all her secrets to. But putting all my egalitarian BS aside, you are usually going to get the best sex from a girl that trusts you and thats what I'm after.

Wow. Finally.

I just bedded a hotttt 20-year old blonde.

I am not that handsome young guy with cash and game.

No, but there it was in my bed a hot 20-year old.

Sex was super hott.

It took some patience but it did happen. I gave her my standard first-date amount and sent her on her way.

We will be talking arrangement details. Let's hope she is not greedy and that this is the beginning of a beautiful arrangement.

Can't wait.

Gods of the Sugar Bowl, thank you for being on my side on this one.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2484601]I tell most girls that I am seeing regularly to think of me as a stepping stone. So make the most of it while you can. Because my history is that its not going to last. But that doesn't mean we can't have a blast for as long as it does. Young girls need mentoring, guidance and good sex (and money). Nothing wrong with that.

I had an x from a few years ago recently thank me for all the help I gave her, financially and with her self esteem. She was a scared little girl when I met her, jumping from man to man. Now she makes her own plans and carries herself like the sexy young lady she always was. They may move on (or we may move them on) but they dont forget. I like to think I am making the world a better place for me and for them.

I know most ppl look down on what we do and have terrible names they like to call us. Some are well intentioned but most are clueless. I was an atm before and found that there were some benefits to that, but mostly I just attracted gold diggers. Now some call me cheap, but I am not cheap with my real world help, the above mentioned instruction (that one day may land them the hubby of their dreams) and a shoulder to lean on in the mean time. As far as I am concerned thats priceless.

Of course we all have our booty call babes (I used her, she used me, but neither one cared) but for a girl to be long term SB she has to be lifting my self esteem as well. And thats the main ingredient in attracting these girls. At least the ones I go after.

I just spoke to my first wife that I divorced 34 years ago (and with whom I had no children) and she had nothing but nice things to say and then bitched at me for not staying more in touch. Because to this day I am still the only one she can tell all her secrets to. But putting all my egalitarian BS aside, you are usually going to get the best sex from a girl that trusts you and thats what I'm after.[/QUOTE]If it were not for those of us with experience, then how would a young, inexperienced lady learn. We should be phd' s in this field. LOL.

Ok. So I know that in the past some of our comrades have frowned upon the Exchange of information on pots and SBs. The reasons are many, but like FM, I am finding a deluge of summertime pots that is becoming unmanageable. I have received more messages from pots looking to meet without me ever even looking at their profiles or trying to contact them. Historically I would get a lot of messages from AA women, but this past week I have been messages from others, including two hot young Asian spinners.

Like FM, my time is limited. I don't want to waste time on pots that are Gps or that are interested in "platonic" friendships only.

I am happy to share info on prior SBs who I no longer see, and on pots I've met but didn't connect with. Of course since we know that the SBs read this forum as well, I am proposing to exchange info via pm to other trusted senior members.

I am currently mainly playing in the DC / VA / MD and Baltimore areas but also have some very limited info on pots in the Tristate region of Philly / S. Jeez / and DE.

Trusted senior members, looking to share info in those regions, please pm me.

As an aside, after renewing my account a few days ago, and being out of commision for the entire memorial day weekend taking care of real life matters, I completed one m&g which resulted in agreement for a FC trip (date tbd because of my crazy schedule), have one m&g scheduled tonight, plans for a FC trip this Friday, and messages with multiple pots interested in a m&g.

I need to be more efficient with my time, since it is so valuable. Others have to be feeling the same way.

Fredmoore please delete some messages from your inbox. Your mailbox is full and I can't respond to your last message.

[QUOTE=MyBudfang;2484773]If it were not for those of us with experience, then how would a young, inexperienced lady learn. We should be phd' s in this field. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have had more than one girl jokingly say they should be paying me.