It's actually good so far
A lot of variety here, even bigger scene here than San Diego.
So far so good, mostly from older providers who can give a good massage and decent HJ (experienced provider does a better job).
But also some really pushy pouting for "more tips" which I felt wasn't really worth it.
Still finding my way around but recent reviews here are in "code" due to the large number of shutdowns that happened.
Not sure what the point is because if the reviews are transparent enough other interested parties (LE) can understand as well.
So explicit reviews seem to be frowned upon which makes sense if LE is using them to shut places down. all the fun is in the details 😊 but details are harder to get, it just makes the chase more challenging
[QUOTE=MisterTwinkies;4229291]How bad is San Jose, BSB?[/QUOTE]
Good Deal But Keep Us Informed
[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;4229305]A lot of variety here, even bigger scene here than San Diego.
So far so good, mostly from older providers who can give a good massage and decent HJ (experienced provider does a better job).
But also some really pushy pouting for "more tips" which I felt wasn't really worth it.
Still finding my way around but recent reviews here are in "code" due to the large number of shutdowns that happened.
Not sure what the point is because if the reviews are transparent enough other interested parties (LE) can understand as well.
So explicit reviews seem to be frowned upon which makes sense if LE is using them to shut places down. all the fun is in the details 😊 but details are harder to get, it just makes the chase more challenging[/QUOTE]You were on it down here. We can follow your writing up there but go ahead and keep the threads alive for us here too. You'll be able to see the trend here in case you just got to get back for a few quickies. I am traveling more than writing so that does eat into the online exploring. Good luck up north. A lot of Asians up there no doubt. I had one I traveled with to san jose to see her friends. That was fun. Strip Mall had parlors, Chinese Restaurants, Video stores and we made the stops. Went on to SF for a few more days of fun. Watch the posts on the usual until comfortable.
Hightened Senses With a Steep Learning Curve
[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;4231067]I think the art of mongering is alive up here but it definitely has some dark undertones. The dark undertones of fear and paranoia.
For the San Diego audiences, enjoy the sweet taste of freedom that you have down there, enjoy the life without fear, enjoy walking into a massage parlor and gladly saying I'd like a half hour (or one hour depending on what you want 😀 knowing full well that happiness awaits you.
Here is a prevailing dark cloud of suspicion and paranoia. Providers seem to be afraid of being shut down and every new customer is a risk. Fear seems to looms over all of these places.
The forum seem to be dead. The reviews that are posted on rub maps are in code. When you're in a new area and you don't have a history, reviews are the best tool to find the services you might desire. But in this land that was once so bright there now seems to be a twilight slowly fading into darkness.
It's only been a week and I am a little ashamed to say I've only visited three parlors.
Each experience was a learning curve. Each one was enjoyable, each one definitely was a good massage and I left me with a happy ending, but each experience had a lot more screening questions than I'm personally accustomed to in the San Diego area.
Understandably for good reasons. Politicians have systematically waged a war on massage parlors up here, if you go to rub maps and filter for full-service places places were the reviews mentioned FS, it's pages and pages of closed parlors. Definitely a lot of shut downs in this whole area. To me it's sad how many small businesses have been ruined and how many single moms working to support their families have been deprived of their livelihood just because of repressed, out dated thoughts on human sexuality.
I personally feel that massage parlors play a vital role in mental and physical health of an individual. Massage provides a healthy outlet for healthy human beings. The opportunity to have a sexual release whether manually or through more intimate personal contact is a basic human need.
Unfortunately some politicians are still stuck in the darkness of the Victorian era.
It's sad.
The providers her are desperate for the business but they're also afraid, The mild screening questions (if at all) usually run into her a lot more intense for me up here. Where do you live? What do you do? Why are you here how did you hear about this place? The seemingly innocuous and normal screening that all good providers should have to make sure they don't get in trouble just seems in order of magnitude higher.
After a long drove up, I found to my delight a review of parlor just across the street in the adjacent strip mall. Reading the rub maps reviews as there was absolutely no information available in the USASG site, other mongers were asking was it HJ available or not. It was early evening so in the spirit of adventure (and desperately in need of a good massage and a good tug) I decided to find out for myself.
Where at the front door of the screening started but after a moment I was led to a room where I waited more than five minutes for the provider to show up, A lot of chitchat and I made it clear to her that I was used to going to massage and she corrected me and said that this was a skin care place no massage. Of course the funny thing is that this conversation was taking place while I was laying down on a massage table and she was sliding her oiled hand over the curves my ass running them up and down my spine repeatedly telling me the place did not offer massage just skin care. The provider was older (over 50) but a very strong fit good body and very good massage skills. When it came time for the flip we have built enough trust and rapport and she went right to the task at hand (with very experienced and skillful hands) I left drained and relaxed after a long drive, it was a good session $50 to the house and $40 tip.
Another factor is it I need to adjust to here is traffic, my experience so far is this place makes LA or orange county traffic look like a breeze. It's taking me from 55 minutes to an hour and a half to go 18 miles. So the obvious solution is to stop at a parlor on the way home. So instead of just sitting in the car getting beaten up in traffic, better to have some girl beat on me for a while (I do like a strong massage).
So again based on reviews written in code I went to a place that offered "lip service" for $10, and the reviewer said that he over tipped instead of the normal eight dollars. I took that to mean that he tipped $100 for a blowjob in the normal rate was $80 Armed with this limited information and a willingness to explore, I walked into the selected parlor and immediately see a couple of fat old ladies getting food massages to the right of the entrance in overstaffed recliners. Before he could have second thoughts I paid the house fee and was asked to sign them my name and address on a clipboard. Actually some of the places in Escondido do this seems like it's a city requirement to "document" the customers that utilize their services. Well if anybody actually even reads it they're going to find that "Ron white" sure as hell gets a lot of massages 😀. Maybe someday Ron White could work that into one of his comedy routines for right now I'm his unpaid press agent, spreading his good name everywhere a name is required.
This place was a Vietnamese place which also was an alert to me because in San Diego all the Vietnamese girls I've seen are absolute hotties, however in any nominal population distribution you've got a few on the extreme range of the hotness and then you have others that are not. The provider that walked into my room look like the stereotype of the rotund, I robust overfed woman you see at Walmart late at night. I kid you not and I don't say this to be mean but just factually speaking she was the fattest hugest gigantic ass Vietnam woman I've ever seen. This wasn't the first BBW I've had take care of me but it was the first big ass BBBW.
However looks are deceiving, she was actually an excellent service provider, her massage skills were excellent her voice was very soft and demure and she gave me an excellent massage. Almost no words spoken. Before the flip there was lots of roaming and grabbing and she had a really good technique to build a sensual tension so on the turnover she was able to give me a release with no problem.
Pure skill with her hands, I'm sure the product of years of experience.
I've hit up only three places in a week but each one was a great massage with a good HJ.
I've tried to find an FS place with no success so far ( its only been a week) but this weekend I'm going to redouble my efforts.
This is a strange and distant land, so close to home and yet so far away. Basically the same game but there's still a lot of parlors left for me to explore 😊.
So too long didn't read= TL DR very active massage parlors scene up here but lots of paranoid suspicion due to shut down.
Like they say in Thailand same same but different.[/QUOTE]In India or Sri Lanka if you ask a question that requires a yes or no answer to make your understanding simple the normal reply starts with a head bob, shake and nodding all at the same time. There is an art to the head bob to make you think your question was understood and given a direct answer. This body language Head acknowledgment usually persists for long moments before some unclear indistinct verbal garbage is emitted. They don't want to be on the wrong side of the question. I'm sure you won't be that much in the dark for too long up there but it does sound as if the learning curve is rather steep. Obviously it is easier to get whatever is needed to operate a skin care salon as opposed to a "heaven forbid" Massage Parlor. There was and probably still is a purge and North & South around SF and environs to the east and south. There were some inklings of a whole undercarriage existing in a radius from Vallejo and Benicia. At one time around Berkeley things were pretty lucy. Not generally in the upper crust areas. Working to the north from Marin a few years back there was a lot but as RE settles the scene seems to change. Just amounting to generalizations at this point much removed in time. Things have a way of working in cycles. Perhaps with time the scene will become clearer and worth the trouble of the move.
