"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=FirstHalf;2472474]How do you guys handle some of the profile areas on SA? Things like:

1. Your picture (can't add mine since it could be seen by friends or family).

2. Single or married?

3. Do you just say straight out that you're looking for NSA relationships?

Assuming I'm not going to disclose my identity to these girls, how do you go about discussing personal issues? Do you think it's better to simply be honest and upfront?

This is why mongering seems so much easier, but I'm wanting to try this out.[/QUOTE]Newbie here, but I did read through the rest of the thread.

1) I put up a selfie, but then I'm single. I've seen others say they either only do pics via email, or add them as "Private" and give access later in the contact process.

2) Also seen some guys say they go ahead and put "Married" in so it's there up-front.

3) Yeah, putting NSA in the "Looking For" section seems to be the way to go.

Met up with another mid 20's grad student redhead this week. (Managed to score a freebie with a different one two weeks ago.).

This girl was just amazing. Plan was just a m&g. We hit it off famously. She is poly amorous, bi, very open, really pretty, whip smart, very creative, and just plain fun. Drove her back to her place and ended up getting a BJ from her in an elementary school parking lot. She's only here for the summer but I think we will have a lot of fun. Sadly she has roommates so we will have to go for hotels for the FC, but she will be worth it.

Up next. Trip to Boston this week. Will see my #1 Asian hottie and have a few other potential dates lined up.

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;2472745] I still have absolutely no clue whether she's legit or a scammer. I'm honestly inclined to think legit, but man, that was just bizarre. I'll be curious to see if she ever actually tries contacting me again.[/QUOTE]Don't mean to be harsh, but you're the "who does that" guy! Never, ever, ever, ever send money to someone via western union. Can't imagine sending money to someone I've never met face to face. So here's the clue: you got scammed. Twice.

I saw the girl this evening that I met this morning on SA. She was an admitted UTR. I really needed to take the day off today but she was making it so easy to see her that I figured screw it. If we fucked great and if not no problem. She was too cute to pass by. She was a 8/9/8/7. She was good looking but due to me not really wanting sex, the sex part was below average. Like a 4 on my side. She was horny. A bit dispassionate but I'm overly spoiled. I am sure she would be happy to see me again. I just didn't want to waste the opportunity to meet a pretty girl. It wasnt a perfect date FC wise thats for sure. But I got enough of a taste to at least think about if I want to see her again. She really did have a great body.

Too many things to worry about. Was it me was it her? Most likely both but I take the blame as she was more than willing to whatever I asked. I was just too tired to go there. My regulars give me that extra drama in the FC the I love. Maybe this girl could too but I didnt even ask. The Milf from yesterday was into all my games even if she was laughing sometimes. It was all good and nasty.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;2473164]Don't mean to be harsh, but you're the "who does that" guy! Never, ever, ever, ever send money to someone via western union. Can't imagine sending money to someone I've never met face to face. So here's the clue: you got scammed. Twice.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Unfortunately (in this case), I'm a generally trusting individual. Going to have to change that some, I guess.

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;2473672]Yeah. Unfortunately (in this case), I'm a generally trusting individual. Going to have to change that some, I guess.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you were inviting her over to your place. Until you have been with someone several times and know who they are for real, you should never invite them to your place. My rule would be to never have them over any time. All these relationships end eventually and the last thing you want is some obsessed woman staking out your house or apartment. That's not to mention the risk that she shows up with a friend who invites you to go with them to an ATM. A lot of the women on the SB sites are either UTR's, scammers or Nando1's. Often they are all three. You need to be much more cautious in general and at least go slow until you get some experience and can distinguish the legit SB's from the others.

BAM.

[QUOTE=BradAM;2473774]It sounds like you were inviting her over to your place. Until you have been with someone several times and know who they are for real, you should never invite them to your place. My rule would be to never have them over any time. All these relationships end eventually and the last thing you want is some obsessed woman staking out your house or apartment. That's not to mention the risk that she shows up with a friend who invites you to go with them to an ATM. A lot of the women on the SB sites are either UTR's, scammers or Nando1's. Often they are all three. You need to be much more cautious in general and at least go slow until you get some experience and can distinguish the legit SB's from the others.

BAM.[/QUOTE]In my case I bring them all to my place. In 8 years I have had one psycho stalker. Had LEO remove her 3 times. Going to the girls place I never had a problem until last week which I posted about. One of her X's showed up and was considering jumping me but knocked her around instead. Hotel rooms are the best but I can't afford the extra expense.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2473785]In my case I bring them all to my place. In 8 years I have had one psycho stalker. Had LEO remove her 3 times. Going to the girls place I never had a problem until last week which I posted about. One of her X's showed up and was considering jumping me but knocked her around instead. Hotel rooms are the best but I can't afford the extra expense.[/QUOTE]I bring them all to my place, too. I try not to be crazy about who I bring home and almost always meet someplace in public first. I broke that rule about a week ago and kind of regretted it. She was a cute girl I had been texting for a couple of weeks and finally I just invited her over. When she got out of the car she was about 25 pounds heavier than inn the pic. Being a good host I invited her in and we had wine. I'm not into the BBW thing but ended up doing the deed anyway (hey, she was there and was horny, what's a guy to do?) She ended up staying overnight and waking me up with a BJ twice in the middle of the night. I don't usually make it three times in 8 hours. Nice girl but she won't be back. I gave her $ when she left, and she seemed happy about it.

I brought a stripper I met home one time, with a friend of hers (female), who watched TV while we were in my room. In retrospect I wouldn't do that again, lucky I still have the TV.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;2473821]I bring them all to my place, too. I try not to be crazy about who I bring home and almost always meet someplace in public first. I broke that rule about a week ago and kind of regretted it. She was a cute girl I had been texting for a couple of weeks and finally I just invited her over. When she got out of the car she was about 25 pounds heavier than inn the pic. Being a good host I invited her in and we had wine. I'm not into the BBW thing but ended up doing the deed anyway (hey, she was there and was horny, what's a guy to do?) She ended up staying overnight and waking me up with a BJ twice in the middle of the night. I don't usually make it three times in 8 hours. Nice girl but she won't be back. I gave her $ when she left, and she seemed happy about it.

I brought a stripper I met home one time, with a friend of hers (female), who watched TV while we were in my room. In retrospect I wouldn't do that again, lucky I still have the TV.[/QUOTE]Yeah I guess I usually meet them somewhere nearby first just to be sure. I have had a few come straight to my door. But not often.

Hey guys.

Been reading this post for years and it has helped a lot. Love the 5 steps and overall advice.

Just recieved a message back from a POT that just floored me after I replied with the 3 rdStep response. "I do at least $300, it's degrading to do it for anything less I'm not a prostitute and for anything less would be prostitute money. "
OMG.

Here is a scammer.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea76fc6e/view[/URL]

She did the whole routine of.

* my baby is sick.

* I will come over but don't have gas.

* Send me money for gas and the baby sitter with [B]Western Union.[/B].

Holy shit.

It was funny that I just read a fellow brother got scammed a few threads ago.

As soon as she said in her text, like the second text, that her baby was sick, I knew something was up.

And, no, I didn't send anything.

I just stayed polite.

These scammers are unbelievable.

Wait, wait she is texting me again. I wonder what she is going to come up with next.

[QUOTE=MJehl;2473909]
Just recieved a message back from a POT "I do at least $300, it's degrading to do it for anything less I'm not a prostitute and for anything less would be prostitute money. "
[/QUOTE]That logic is priceless, and pure female. I just lost one of my favorites, a 19 year old latina who was absolutely stunning and wild in bed. In her break up text she told me that she thought I wanted something too serious (hah) and oh, by the way, she had met someone willing to pay her 300. I was giving her my standard 120, and when we started she was ecstatic about it. I just wish guys would stop overpaying these girls.

[QUOTE=MJehl;2473909]Hey guys.

Been reading this post for years and it has helped a lot. Love the 5 steps and overall advice.

Just recieved a message back from a POT that just floored me after I replied with the 3 rdStep response. "I do at least $300, it's degrading to do it for anything less I'm not a prostitute and for anything less would be prostitute money. "
OMG.[/QUOTE]And that's when you hit them with the 4th step. My UTR girl from yesterday originally suggested $$.5 to $$$$ and then went straight to $. Its rare but it happens. Many times they drop to $.5. If they suggest anything more I just tell them to have a nice day.

Read post 9181.

Funny -- just had an exchange with her under a different name. Same thing with me. It was a very short conversation.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;2474316]Here is a scammer.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea76fc6e/view[/URL]

She did the whole routine of.

* my baby is sick.

* I will come over but don't have gas.

* Send me money for gas and the baby sitter with [B]Western Union.[/B].

Holy shit.

It was funny that I just read a fellow brother got scammed a few threads ago.

As soon as she said in her text, like the second text, that her baby was sick, I knew something was up.

And, no, I didn't send anything.

I just stayed polite.

These scammers are unbelievable.

Wait, wait she is texting me again. I wonder what she is going to come up with next.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2474536]Funny -- just had an exchange with her under a different name. Same thing with me. It was a very short conversation.[/QUOTE]Well, tell us what the name is, tell us the link, so we can save time.

I also suggest that you report her as a scammer.