Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=HarleyDude29;2979658]I took a chance and toftt. I stopped in at Ashley Wellness on Main St in Fairfax. Beautiful woman was at the desk and she was the only one working I believe. They advertise on BP so figured there was a chance it could be good. Totally legit and no hint of anything. She made sure I was covered at all times and never accepted my offer to remove the towel. Massage was ok, but nothing special. No reason to make a return visit. She said I was first customer that day at around 2 pm. I doubt they will be around long.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-picturescool-naturals-1ooff-grand-opening_come-to-my-place/23102062[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds exactly like the place in West Springfield behind the Giant. They put pictures up that make you think one thing, but when you get there within five minutes you know it's legit. Lame!

First report, so welcome feedbac.

Finally had a chance to have a dream. Weekday, early evening. Dreamed I was at NS in Hrndn. Place is indiscreetly discreet. No sign out front, nothing on the inner door. Rang the bell and MMS opened quickly. She appeared Korean in her late 40's or so. She asked how long and had I been here before. I was told her no, but I was looking for an hour of relaxing. She took me to the room on the end. Room had its own door, clean linens, overall tidy look. Towel warmer and oil warmer on a table. About 2 minutes later, in comes a Chinese spinner named Jenny. (said she was 32) Face average, oranges up top, but she had a good attitude. Passable English, but not great. She wanted the house. 8 right away and asked if I wanted the included table shower. She gave me a towel and disappeared to pay MMS. TS was decent, enthusiastic, but I don't have a lot of experience with them. Yet. And she spent enough time on main street to let me know that as least a NOVA finish was available. She also asked if it was my first time there, but AFTER she had already taken matters into her own hands.

After the TS, I dreamed I was receiving and average medium massage with very light oil. She was conversant and responsive to my directions, and gave an ok back walk. More time on main street than I expected while I was still face down. She felt it necessary to inform me that "no fuck here". I was lightly roaming which she didn't object or pull away from. Damn fine back cushions. They were firm and both fit in one hand. Then the flip and right to business. Despite her face being an inch away from the business, she told me "no BJ here either" and how much was I going to tip. I stated the standard NOVA price and she laughed and said "Minimum 60. When I get massage I give 60 tip. " I damn near said I want the provider you give a 60 tip to. " but I have more self-control in my dreams. Since TS was included and my roaming was unrestricted I agreed to 60. She managed to edge me until the hour was complete with a standard oiled (not bad) nova finish. Clean up was with dry towel and I was ushered out the back door.

Good: TS was soap and hands, and there was a lot of handiwork.

Face down was at times relaxing, at times therapeutic, sometimes almost affectionate.

She was pleasant, talkative and responsive.

Very good location for me.

Bad: . 6 for OTC roaming only seems over the average. If I dream again, I will see if that translates into top off or UTC.

She wore some kind of glittery makeup. I didn't notice it until I woke up and looked in the mirror. I probably should have taken a shower there, but I didn't see it at the time. If having glitter on your cheek or collar is an issue for you, avoid Jenny or take a shower before you leave.

Would I want to have this dream again? Probably. Would like to dream of a different provider though.

Huntzman.

Today I daydreamed of going to F Wellness.

Finding this place was easy using my phone GPS.

I followed previous advice and parked around back, there was plenty spaces open to park but enough occupied to prevent you from standing out. I arrived shortly after they opened. No call, just walk-in.

Aware of my build, appearance, and mannerism, I knew I could be treated like LEO. Again, I simply followed previous advice and was super nice to the mama, and told her this was not my first visit but it had been a while.

I donated $. 8 to the house for an hr, only because this was actually my first visit and I'm not too familiar with NOVA. Once mama left, in came a petite, late 30's. Early 40's spinner. Not much going on up top or in the back but having visited AMPs before I know the appearance could of been much worst. I would give this masseuse a 6. 5 - 7. She said her name was Kim.

When Kim entered the room, I was in my birthday suit, again, to dismiss any idea I was LEO. She offered a TS and I accepted.

From there, I received a royal wipe down for about 5-7 minutes which was good treatment.

We went back to the room and the massage started off mediocre but turned out to be not bad at all. The flip into the HE was quick and good. Most importantly the massage continued afterwards for about 5 more minutes.

The king treatment continued as Kim helped me dress. Literally helped me dress. There was mo mention of $ on her part. I started thinking there was no tip or I didn't need to. I remembered everyone said $. 4 is the NOVA standard so that's what I gave.

On my way out, mama asked me if it was good. And she asked as if I were to say no, she would of fixed it.

All in all, I gave $1. 2 . Is that normal? Or too much? Remember I was overly concerned they would of suspected I was uncle LEO, plus this was my 1st AMP hobby experience in NOVA or the east coast for that matter.

Any advice, Please PM, I'm all ears.

Any questions on FW, PM.

Any recommendations for my future adventures, PM me.

Thanks,

TheBarbarian.

Today I daydreamed of going to F Wellness.

Finding this place was easy using my phone GPS.

I followed previous advice and parked around back, there was plenty spaces open to park but enough occupied to prevent you from standing out. I arrived shortly after they opened. No call, just walk-in.

Aware of my build, appearance, and mannerism, I knew I could be treated like LEO. Again, I simply followed previous advice and was super nice to the mama, and told her this was not my first visit but it had been a while.

I donated $. 8 to the house for an hr, only because this was actually my first visit and I'm not too familiar with NOVA. Once mama left, in came a petite, late 30's. Early 40's spinner. Not much going on up top or in the back but having visited AMPs before I know the appearance could of been much worst. I would give this masseuse a 6. 5 - 7. She said her name was Kim.

When Kim entered the room, I was in my birthday suit, again, to dismiss any idea I was LEO. She offered a TS and I accepted.

From there, I received a royal wipe down for about 5-7 minutes which was good treatment.

We went back to the room and the massage started off mediocre but turned out to be not bad at all. The flip into the HE was quick and good. Most importantly the massage continued afterwards for about 5 more minutes.

The king treatment continued as Kim helped me dress. Literally helped me dress. There was mo mention of $ on her part. I started thinking there was no tip or I didn't need to. I remembered everyone said $. 4 is the NOVA standard so that's what I gave.

On my way out, mama asked me if it was good. And she asked as if I were to say no, she would of fixed it.

All in all, I gave $1. 2 . Is that normal? Or too much? Remember I was overly concerned they would of suspected I was uncle LEO, plus this was my 1st AMP hobby experience in NOVA or the east coast for that matter.

Any advice, Please PM, I'm all ears.

Any questions on FW, PM.

Any recommendations for my future adventures, PM me.

Thanks,

TheBarbarian.

[QUOTE=HuntzMan;2979947]She felt it necessary to inform me that "no fuck here". . . Then the flip and right to business. Despite her face being an inch away from the business, she told me "no BJ here either" and how much was I going to tip. I stated the standard NOVA price and she laughed and said "[b][I]Minimum 60. When I get massage I give 60 tip.[/I][/b]"[/QUOTE]Hey, HuntzMan! IIRC, this is among your first AMP experiences here in the USA, even though you've mongered out of country and posted extensively in the ISG, right? If so, then there are a couple lessons available here. She felt it *necessary* to inform you that "[I]no fuck here[/I]" and, a bit later, "[I]no BJ here either[/I]. ".

What she has just done is put bounds on the services you can expect. Okay, that's fair, as far as that goes (although it's interesting, because those two statements indicate that she's aware of some places offering those services. . . Or that she has offered them at other AMPs where she's worked.) In my mind, I would then calculate that she had just informed me that her tip would be less than 100 and, then, less than 80 (assuming BBBJ) or 70 (assuming CBJ).

Now, when she asked how much you were going to tip, your reply should [U]not[/U] have been to quote the Standard NOVA price (40). Instead, you should have replied, "[I]That depends on the service[/I]. " Let her make the opening offer. Put the ball back into her court. It will tend to throw her off her negotiating game. Remember, she only gets a small amount (if any) of the house fee, so she's really working for the tip. That's your trump card.

If she continues to be evasive, just tell her to keep doing whatever she normally does for a massage. If she says, "[I]Finished[/I]" or something similar, start to get up from the table and begin to get dressed. Leave a 10 (or 20, max) tip and thank her for a "[I]nice massage[/I]. " Usually, before things get to this point, she'll have accepted your offer of 40, [U]which should include her top up or off[/U].

The fact that she laughed at your offer of 40, and said "[I][u]minimum[/u] 60[/I]" marks her as a provider who knows the game but wants to get maximum tip for the least amount of service. Besides, it's a presumptuous attitude to say something like that. My reply back would probably have been, "[I]I don't pay 60 for HJ.[/I]" Of course, if things have gotten to this point, my enthusiasm has already soured and the mood has been more or less ruined. At that point, I realize it'll be better to walk, since any HJ she's likely to give you will be terse and un-sensual.

[B]You [u]must[/u] be willing and ready to walk.[/B]

Following the above procedure ensures that we don't see a continual escalation of prices, accompanied by a continual diminution of services. And, it will save you some of your hard-earned dollars, too. Think about it: If you ever return to that AMP, how likely is it that any of the other girls there will accept 40 for a Standard NOVA finish?

There are more than enough AMPs to fill the demands of this area. The MMS has a good deal invested in her AMP, and she'd prefer satisfied return customers. If her girls are causing customers not to return, she'll eventually figure out which girls are causing it and try to adjust the attitude of those girls. MMS knows that you have other options.

[B]Roman[/B]

P.S. - [U]One more point:[/U] Bring ONLY what you want to pay, and no more. If visiting a new AMP and you're unsure of what services are available, just bring enough for Standard NOVA the first time. That way, you can't be cajoled into providing more for that level of service. If other services are available, the girl will make it clear, and you can bring an appropriate amount with you next time.

[QUOTE=TheBarbarian;2982437]Today I daydreamed of going to F Wellness.

Any advice, Please PM, I'm all ears.

Any recommendations for my future adventures, PM me.

Thanks,

TheBarbarian.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the Forum, Conan. Very nice inaugural post, and you managed to avoid the newbie mistake of asking for info in your first post. Keep on this track, and you'll be well on your way to building up a fair amount of "board cred" quickly and, not too many months from now, earning Senior status.

I'll send you a PM shortly, with a few tips for mongering in the NoVA area and, perhaps, even a recommendation or two. In the mean time, the most important bit of general advice I can offer is: Read the forum. Read it extensively. Take time to go back at least 6 months and read what other members have shared. There is a TON of info available, free for the taking, from members with a lot of experience. The more homework you do, the better prepared you'll be; the less likely you'll make a mistake; and the more likely your experiences will be memorable (in a positive way).

Cheers, and carry on, amigo.

[B]Roman[/B]

[QUOTE=Lovejugs;2979233]On the flip the bargaining started and was quite annoying. She actually wanted a Paul Frank for Standard NOVA finish and some DATY. I told her she was killing the mood. These words actually came out of her mouth. "[b][I]This is so like you Americans![/I][/b]"[/QUOTE]At that point, I would have walked. No question about it. That sort of statement would have told me that, at best, the NoVA finish would have been barely acceptable. I would have skipped the HJ; as for the tip, I'm not even sure I would have left anything, given her remark about "[I]you Americans![/I]" Perhaps a fiver for her "efforts" with the massage itself. And, regardless of the new MMS, I'd have at least mentioned to her that the massage was terrible, the therapist was rude, and that I wouldn't be returning or telling my friends to visit her place.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2982755]Hey, HuntzMan! IIRC, this is among your first AMP experiences here in the USA, even though you've mongered out of country and posted extensively in the ISG, right? If so, then there are a couple lessons available here. She felt it *necessary* to inform you that "[I]no fuck here[/I]" and, a bit later, "[I]no BJ here either[/I]. ".

What she has just done is put bounds on the services you can expect. Okay, that's fair, as far as that goes (although it's interesting, because those two statements indicate that she's aware of some places offering those services. . . Or that she has offered them at other AMPs where she's worked.) In my mind, I would then calculate that she had just informed me that her tip would be less than 100 and, then, less than 80 (assuming BBBJ) or 70 (assuming CBJ).

Now, when she asked how much you were going to tip, your reply should [U]not[/U] have been to quote the Standard NOVA price (40). Instead, you should have replied, "[I]That depends on the service[/I]. " Let her make the opening offer. Put the ball back into her court. It will tend to throw her off her negotiating game. Remember, she only gets a small amount (if any) of the house fee, so she's really working for the tip. That's your trump card.

If she continues to be evasive, just tell her to keep doing whatever she normally does for a massage. If she says, "[I]Finished[/I]" or something similar, start to get up from the table and begin to get dressed. Leave a 10 (or 20, max) tip and thank her for a "[I]nice massage[/I]. " Usually, before things get to this point, she'll have accepted your offer of 40, [U]which should include her top up or off[/U].

The fact that she laughed at your offer of 40, and said "[I][u]minimum[/u] 60[/I]" marks her as a provider who knows the game but wants to get maximum tip for the least amount of service. Besides, it's a presumptuous attitude to say something like that. My reply back would probably have been, "[I]I don't pay 60 for HJ.[/I]" Of course, if things have gotten to this point, my enthusiasm has already soured and the mood has been more or less ruined. At that point, I realize it'll be better to walk, since any HJ she's likely to give you will be terse and un-sensual.

[B]You [u]must[/u] be willing and ready to walk.[/B]

Following the above procedure ensures that we don't see a continual escalation of prices, accompanied by a continual diminution of services. And, it will save you some of your hard-earned dollars, too. Think about it: If you ever return to that AMP, how likely is it that any of the other girls there will accept 40 for a Standard NOVA finish?

There are more than enough AMPs to fill the demands of this area. The MMS has a good deal invested in her AMP, and she'd prefer satisfied return customers. If her girls are causing customers not to return, she'll eventually figure out which girls are causing it and try to adjust the attitude of those girls. MMS knows that you have other options.

[B]Roman[/B]

P.S. - [U]One more point:[/U] Bring ONLY what you want to pay, and no more. If visiting a new AMP and you're unsure of what services are available, just bring enough for Standard NOVA the first time. That way, you can't be cajoled into providing more for that level of service. If other services are available, the girl will make it clear, and you can bring an appropriate amount with you next time.[/QUOTE]Nice suggestions RR.

I would rarely pay 140 for a fully clothed HJ LOL.

140 better get me BBBJ, FS with rimming and a 2nd pop via BBBJ and HJ finish. Oh wait I get that for 80-90 in Cali LOL not here in the over priced land of NOVA where the Asian tang has got you Gweilos by the nuts.

PC out.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2982755]

P.S. - [U]One more point:[/U] Bring ONLY what you want to pay, and no more. If visiting a new AMP and you're unsure of what services are available, just bring enough for Standard NOVA the first time. That way, you can't be cajoled into providing more for that level of service. If other services are available, the girl will make it clear, and you can bring an appropriate amount with you next time.[/QUOTE]If I'm expecting nothing more than a standard noVA, I put my entrance fee in one of my front pockets, 40 tip in the other front pocket, and a 10 in one of my back pockets. I'll put an extra 20 hidden away in my wallet and won't put any other large bills in my wallet. I'll break out the 10 and add it to the 40 if the HE and massage was excellent. This is to prevent the greedy providers from seeing what's in your wallet and hustling you even more as they won't let up badgering you for a bigger tip knowing you have a couple extra jacksons in your wallet. If they see some extra $$$ in your wallet, your leverage to negotiate, e. G. "hey I only got 50, sorry I didn't bring more" just goes out the window and they'll act like a pain in the ass and cut your session short and try to get rid of you quickly. That's a waste of an 60 or 80 entrance fee.

The KAMPS these days are asking 60 to 80 for simple noVA. F- that! And the KAMP providers are the biggest pain in the ass. The Thai providers are beginning to take after them with their 120 fee sans noVA service. I guess now, noVA service is extra on top of the 120. F- that!

[QUOTE=Lovejugs;2979233]She actually wanted a Paul Frank for Standard NOVA finish and some DATY.[/QUOTE]I Googled the term and all I found is a monkey; are you using it to mean a Ben Franklin?

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;2984440]I Googled the term and all I found is a monkey; are you using it to mean a Ben Franklin?[/QUOTE]Yes. Was trying to keep in code a bit, but you busted me out. LOL.

After a workout the other day, I decided to drop by Blue Therapy on the way back and get one of their reliable rubdowns. My favorite gal was not working that day (Wednesday), so MMS assigned a new gal, Mimi, instead. She's fairly tall (5'-8" perhaps), with strong arms and hands. Anyway, the TS was the usual soapy affair, a bit longer and more relaxing than usual, for some reason, and the massage itself was thorough from head to toe.

What was different with this visit is that, on the flip, Mimi asks "[I]What level do you want?[/I]" This wasn't a mood-killer question, and it didn't really put a big damper on things, but it was unexpected. Since I knew that Blue was a "HJ only" establishment, I couldn't figure exactly what she meant (unless she was trying to earn a few more dollars with rogue activity that MMS doesn't approve). I asked, and she said, "[I]There's Good, Better, and Best. You're experienced, so you know what that means.[/I]" It appeared that she was fishing to find out how much I'd be willing to spend for what would amount to a glorified HJ, all the while trying to imply that "something more" (BJ or FS) would be available. Maybe additional service was available, but I highly doubted it and I didn't pursue it further. I just told her to do what she usually does. It ended with a standard NoVA finish. Still, I'm not willing to wager $ on a finish that's not [U]guaranteed[/U] to be FS, and she wasn't going to confirm that.

Will I repeat with Mimi? Probably not. While she's not a "cash register", and she is a decent-looking gal, she just came across as a little too slick. Others might have a different opinion, but that's my assessment. I'll visit again on a day when my favorite gal is working. There's never any negotiation, she's solid with her knowledge of muscle groups, she's down-to-earth, and she also has a particular flair to her finishes. She might be 50+ years old, but that's never been an issue.

[B]Roman[/B]

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2982788]At that point, I would have walked. No question about it. That sort of statement would have told me that, at best, the NoVA finish would have been barely acceptable. I would have skipped the HJ; as for the tip, I'm not even sure I would have left anything, given her remark about "[I]you Americans![/I]" Perhaps a fiver for her "efforts" with the massage itself. And, regardless of the new MMS, I'd have at least mentioned to her that the massage was terrible, the therapist was rude, and that I wouldn't be returning or telling my friends to visit her place.[/QUOTE]This was the only time I was really about to. Her comment pissed me off. And when I get pissed I go from 0 to 60 in about a second. But I controlled it because I still wanted to relieve the stress. Work has been killing me. The release ended up being good. She has a nice body, but is really full of herself. She has a butta face in my opinion and it's a resting b face on top of that. My way of thinking is if the Mama didn't care enough to ask, she probably doesn't care about bad service.

Lovejugs.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2985676]After a workout the other day, I decided to drop by Blue Therapy on the way back and get one of their reliable rubdowns. My favorite gal was not working that day (Wednesday), so MMS assigned a new gal, Mimi, instead. She's fairly tall (5'-8" perhaps), with strong arms and hands. Anyway, the TS was the usual soapy affair, a bit longer and more relaxing than usual, for some reason, and the massage itself was thorough from head to toe.

What was different with this visit is that, on the flip, Mimi asks "[I]What level do you want?[/I]" This wasn't a mood-killer question, and it didn't really put a big damper on things, but it was unexpected. Since I knew that Blue was a "HJ only" establishment, I couldn't figure exactly what she meant (unless she was trying to earn a few more dollars with rogue activity that MMS doesn't approve). I asked, and she said, "[I]There's Good, Better, and Best. You're experienced, so you know what that means.[/I]" It appeared that she was fishing to find out how much I'd be willing to spend for what would amount to a glorified HJ, all the while trying to imply that "something more" (BJ or FS) would be available. Maybe additional service was available, but I highly doubted it and I didn't pursue it further. I just told her to do what she usually does. It ended with a standard NoVA finish. Still, I'm not willing to wager $ on a finish that's not [U]guaranteed[/U] to be FS, and she wasn't going to confirm that.

Will I repeat with Mimi? Probably not. While she's not a "cash register", and she is a decent-looking gal, she just came across as a little too slick. Others might have a different opinion, but that's my assessment. I'll visit again on a day when my favorite gal is working. There's never any negotiation, she's solid with her knowledge of muscle groups, she's down-to-earth, and she also has a particular flair to her finishes. She might be 50+ years old, but that's never been an issue.

[B]Roman[/B][/QUOTE]This is the Old Kim's right? I use to frequent it when Angie was Mamasan there. Fun lady, who made sure you were happy. I don't get to Springfield anymore.

Jenny knows how to get me to relax, with a good medium massage. I just need to get all the soreness taken care of, deal with the stress I've accumulated in the past weeks. Once I was finally in a room with her I could feel my blood pressure beginning to lower as she softly spread oil all over me. She asked me how hard I liked my massage and I said more sensual than hard. She slid her hand along my ass and said she knew exactly what I meant. From there she used her fingers and palms to spread relaxation all over my body and between her teasing and her massage I was feeling pretty great. She took her time and when she said it was time to flip over I was at peace with the world as I grabbed her bun. Jenny didn't ask if I wanted a HE she just kept her massage going until that was the final step. Cleans me up proper and sends me on my way with a sweet smile.