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[QUOTE=TheCamel;4558070]I don't know Cinnamon. Ni'Jae is a nice girl and cute like you say, but doesn't have a great rep for knocking it out of the park in VIP. If you're specifically looking for an AA dancer, I'd recommend Lorraine who is tall, lean and very cute with great personality and does very good lap dances and VIPs. I haven't had any dances at Synn for years but I knew Lorraine when she was brand new and innocent a few years ago and had very good times with her then. She didn't make any tip demands and was happy with the fairly moderate amount I gave her (don't recall the specific amount). With more experience she has likely become more sophisticated about getting bigger tips, but I'd be surprised if she would not accept reasonable terms.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. No, actually I'm not specifically looking for AA. I just like pretty girls, especially if they know how to please; p.
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This is a question I faced a lot when I was a big contributor on the Z-bone forums 15 years ago. It's bizarre that guys can't imagine the lure of strip clubs. I understand the lure of AMPs, escorts, streetwalkers even, whatever. Each has its own bloc of guys. Maybe the mistake is thinking that the point of any of this is the fucking. That's just not the case, or dudes would stay home with their wives or girlfriends. There surely needs to be some sex act, but each of these categories has its own kabuki theater, the tease, the fantasy, the buildup, and that's going to be a part of it. If you got a three-song VIP at Hawaii Theatre in the heydey of 2007, for example, you got 11 minutes for $120, and if it was night shift, the average tip for CFS was $180, so it was $300 per nut. Handjobs were 180 total, CBJ were 200 total, BBBJs had yet to make the comeback to their present prevalence.
If you think that's $300 for 11 minutes behind a curtain on a jizz crusted couch alone, it's far short of the full product you're spending on. It's ignoring that being in the club is part of that. Being able to survey the roster of girls that day and choose is part of that. Having all of them available to you, and you simply having to choose, like you're at a buffet is such a thrill that when I took a stripper to a strip club once she said that she was so turned on by looking at the girls from my point of view, wow, she could choose any one. What's more you can watch the girl onstage, and the female body bending, turning, posing, from every angle is fucking incredible. I'm a photographer, so it's doubly incredible because I understand light and form. Also you can sample a lap dance prior to build the bulge in advance. You can sit and talk to her beforehand if you know her. I spent 30 grand per year for several years. When I walked into Hawaii Theatre, it was like Cheers, everyone knew my name, the girls waved at me. I was usually going to spend money on girls I liked even if they weren't the hottest, because I valued that we'd connected, and I then became friends with many, and I'm still friends with nearly all the girls I wrote about on Zbone 15 years ago. There were so many times I got freebies, in various cities, I can't even count. I got the feeling I got more action for less than nearly any guy, but I still spent a lot. The second or third most expensive girl at Hawaii was Charlie, whom I tutored about the unwritten rules and prices on her first day. By the end of her second year, just a few months before HT went dark, she came to tell me that if I wanted a VIP, she'd do the full thing for no tip, because she was thankful for my help so long before. I once did three VIPs in an afternoon shift not because I was rich, but because the girls spent time doing the best teases. With escorts and AMPs, to me, there's no thrill of the hunt, suspense, or joy of choosing which completely unattainable hot chick in normal reality would be looking at me from between my knees, stroking my pants, or reaching up under the legs of my shorts, with a look in her eye asking me whether I had anything else in mind.
Also, with strip clubs, the girls initiate. They come to win you over, and that's so key. Many escorts hang back for you to make the first move.
I hate that escorts often just pull off their clothes. Strippers do a tease. I could go on really long here, because for awhile last year I was helping write a book on strip clubs with a semi-famous photographer. But suffice it to say, nobody cums with their body, everyone cums with their mind. Dollar for dollar, strip clubs are the best value by far, if you can make the minimum entry cost. Going in being unwilling to spend means it's better not to go, and believe me, I'm unwilling to spend and don't. I remember so few of my K-girl encounters or AMP visits. I remember every one of the dozens if not more than a hundred full service VIPs I've had, as well as the times girls slipped me in on the lap dance couch. This is partly for memories, at least for me, even if they're now 15 years past. Do what you want. For me the guys whose hobby choice mystifies me are the sugar daddies. I've had a girl who'd blow me every time we met up, blew me every drive we took, but she'd go to dinner with her sugar daddy and demand $300 for nothing, pound the table and glare at him, and he'd pay right up. Mind boggling.
[QUOTE=Ump1969;4518971]Just wanted to let you know you are not the only one wondering the same thing. Maybe there are secret millionaires here that have a lot more disposable cash than I do. I always thought the guys shelling out the big bucks would be the ones getting the pros that go out with you to dinner and then spend the night in your hotel room. I mean, if I'm going to shell out that kind of bread, I want the pro for the whole night, not 15 minutes in a closet in the back of a bar. But to each his own. I'm a senior on a small pension and will just have to stick to the dangers of the street girls and the streets. By the way, as long as I'm wasting everyone's time, why does anyone do AMPs? A lot of money for a poor massage by a girl who looks at you like she wishes you were dead, followed by a big money quick fuck? And before anyone tells me safer, AMPs get busted too, when LEO gets bored busting the bangers and coke dealers.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Velcrolio;4560319]This is a question I faced a lot when I was a big contributor on the Z-bone forums 15 years ago. It's bizarre that guys can't imagine the lure of strip clubs. I understand the lure of AMPs, escorts, streetwalkers even, whatever. Each has its own bloc of guys. Maybe the mistake is thinking that the point of any of this is the fucking. That's just not the case, or dudes would stay home with their wives or girlfriends. There surely needs to be some sex act, but each of these categories has its own kabuki theater, the tease, the fantasy, the buildup, and that's going to be a part of it. If you got a three-song VIP at Hawaii Theatre in the heydey of 2007, for example, you got 11 minutes for $120, and if it was night shift, the average tip for CFS was $180, so it was $300 per nut. Handjobs were 180 total, CBJ were 200 total, BBBJs had yet to make the comeback to their present prevalence.
If you think that's $300 for 11 minutes behind a curtain on a jizz crusted couch alone, it's far short of the full product you're spending on. It's ignoring that being in the club is part of that. Being able to survey the roster of girls that day and choose is part of that. Having all of them available to you, and you simply having to choose, like you're at a buffet is such a thrill that when I took a stripper to a strip club once she said that she was so turned on by looking at the girls from my point of view, wow, she could choose any one. What's more you can watch the girl onstage, and the female body bending, turning, posing, from every angle is fucking incredible. I'm a photographer, so it's doubly incredible because I understand light and form. Also you can sample a lap dance prior to build the bulge in advance. You can sit and talk to her beforehand if you know her. I spent 30 grand per year for several years. When I walked into Hawaii Theatre, it was like Cheers, everyone knew my name, the girls waved at me. I was usually going to spend money on girls I liked even if they weren't the hottest, because I valued that we'd connected, and I then became friends with many, and I'm still friends with nearly all the girls I wrote about on Zbone 15 years ago. There were so many times I got freebies, in various cities, I can't even count. I got the feeling I got more action for less than nearly any guy, but I still spent a lot. The second or third most expensive girl at Hawaii was Charlie, whom I tutored about the unwritten rules and prices on her first day..[/QUOTE]Cool story bro LOL.
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Persia / Kayla
Does anyone know where Persia and Kayla dance now? They used to be at Synn, but haven't seen them on the roster in a while. I know from speaking to Marisol that a few dancers alternate to Sahara sometimes, but doesn't sound like they're there.
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Tropical lei
Is tropical lei's VIP set up similar to Synn and paradise? Are their private rooms or just an open area?
Thinking about going tonight.
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[QUOTE=CrunchEazy;4571867]Is tropical lei's VIP set up similar to Synn and paradise? Are their private rooms or just an open area?
Thinking about going tonight.[/QUOTE]It's just a curtain VIP with a worn out couch.
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[QUOTE=MickyDees;4562362]Does anyone know where Persia and Kayla dance now? They used to be at Synn, but haven't seen them on the roster in a while. I know from speaking to Marisol that a few dancers alternate to Sahara sometimes, but doesn't sound like they're there.[/QUOTE]Kayla is back at bare and legal I don't know about Persia.
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[QUOTE=CrunchEazy;4571867]Is tropical lei's VIP set up similar to Synn and paradise? Are their private rooms or just an open area?
Thinking about going tonight.[/QUOTE]They are more like cubicles with floor to ceiling walls and curtains for doors. Plenty of privacy, apart from noise (which can be stimulating or shocking, depending on your temperament). VIPs last 3 songs, not a timed 15 minutes. On day shifts some girls give open curtain warm-up contact for a song or two; night shifts have a shorter leash on that I think.
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[QUOTE=ILubKitty69;4571984]Kayla is back at bare and legal I don't know about Persia.[/QUOTE]Persia is at Taboo in Anaheim.
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[QUOTE=TheCamel;4558070]I don't know Cinnamon. Ni'Jae is a nice girl and cute like you say, but doesn't have a great rep for knocking it out of the park in VIP. If you're specifically looking for an AA dancer, I'd recommend Lorraine who is tall, lean and very cute with great personality and does very good lap dances and VIPs. I haven't had any dances at Synn for years but I knew Lorraine when she was brand new and innocent a few years ago and had very good times with her then. She didn't make any tip demands and was happy with the fairly moderate amount I gave her (don't recall the specific amount). With more experience she has likely become more sophisticated about getting bigger tips, but I'd be surprised if she would not accept reasonable terms.[/QUOTE]Both girls are request for fair tip amount. Cinnamon's dance is more GFE. I find Lorraine to be prettier.
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Synn VIP
Hey everyone,
I used to be on here very frequently and provided some good feedback but unfortunately didn't have login information or email used. So here I am starting fresh with this review.
Went to Synn about two weeks ago. Arrived around 1 pm on a Thursday I believe. Hung out and watched a bit. Drank a lot of water. No alcohol and didn't know that. My fault for not doing research. Was approached by Nikki (I believe her name is). She was not pushy. Super chill. Asked for VIP I told her to try back later. She did. So I opted for the 25 minute option which was $160. VIP we went to was a room with a door. Went in. She put the table in front of the door. She took off her outfit and allowed me to touch EVERYWHERE while we negotiated. She asked for $200 for everything. I offered $100 and we negotiated on 150 extra for everything. Went at it for about 20 minutes straight. Any position I asked she did. Condom for both sex and oral. Good times. Will revisit when funds get replenished. Walked out and left.
One thing I didn't like was the pressure to buy the dancers a water or drink. Fuck that. Drinks are super expensive.
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[QUOTE=RgFourNotTaken;4577901]Hey everyone,
I used to be on here very frequently and provided some good feedback but unfortunately didn't have login information or email used. So here I am starting fresh with this review.
Went to Synn about two weeks ago. Arrived around 1 pm on a Thursday I believe. Hung out and watched a bit. Drank a lot of water. No alcohol and didn't know that. My fault for not doing research. Was approached by Nikki (I believe her name is). She was not pushy. Super chill. Asked for VIP I told her to try back later. She did. So I opted for the 25 minute option which was $160. VIP we went to was a room with a door. Went in. She put the table in front of the door. She took off her outfit and allowed me to touch EVERYWHERE while we negotiated. She asked for $200 for everything. I offered $100 and we negotiated on 150 extra for everything. Went at it for about 20 minutes straight. Any position I asked she did. Condom for both sex and oral. Good times. Will revisit when funds get replenished. Walked out and left.
One thing I didn't like was the pressure to buy the dancers a water or drink. Fuck that. Drinks are super expensive.[/QUOTE]In case you didn't know Thursdays at Synn are discounted dances and VIPs. Place gets very busy with lots of bargain hunters and more dancers than any other day of the week. Not my thing but those $75 VIPs are very popular.
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Thursday nights
Went for a few Thursday nights and here are my reports.
I got a bunch of lap dances but only remembered a few.
1. Santana: exotic looking thick girl with big boobs. I didn't ask about race but she looked maybe Phillipino or Puerto Rican. Took top off right away during lap dance but kept thong on. Grinding was good. Very sexy lady.
2. Mimi: white or Hispanic younger thin girl with curly / wavy blonde hair and natural soft B cups. Lap dance was decent but not very sensual. Allowed breast touch but not pussy play. Asked about her VIP rates and she said $100 BJ, $300 everything.
3. Some thicker middle eastern lady with natural C cups. Gave me an OK lap dance but had BO so didn't really enjoy it.
4. Some lady with name that ends in -ya or something. Spinner 30's-40's with A to B cups. Took off clothes right away and gave me a better lap dance but her sagging tits and loose skin was showing its age.
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[QUOTE=DunKirk666;4578331]In case you didn't know Thursdays at Synn are discounted dances and VIPs. Place gets very busy with lots of bargain hunters and more dancers than any other day of the week. Not my thing but those $75 VIPs are very popular.[/QUOTE]Great info! Will try to be there thursdays in the future. Let me correct my previous post then. More than likely was a Tuesday or Wednesday. Because it was not discounted and I think there was only 3 or guys there including myself. But love the tip, will definitely take advantage of it in the future!
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[QUOTE=Redcoat;4572604]Persia is at Taboo in Anaheim.[/QUOTE]Heard Persia is at Tropical Lei now. Any dancer used to making money would not stay at Taboo: low traffic / volume club (due to very low mileage IME).
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Spearmintrhino
I went to SR the other night and it was a bit dead. I saw Candy a few weeks back. Anyone ever take her to VIP?
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Any intel on Missy or SiN? Making a NY resolution to go to COI and try out the famous ones.
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[QUOTE=AceVentura723;4587387]I went to SR the other night and it was a bit dead. I saw Candy a few weeks back. Anyone ever take her to VIP?[/QUOTE]Candy is an experienced vet stripper, a porn star (Holly Price), and only acts ditzy (she seems quite smart once you start a real convo). I've had great fun for a reasonable price below typical SRCOI asks. Get a VIP you will not regret it.
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[QUOTE=RiskA;4588170]Candy is an experienced vet stripper, a porn star (Holly Price), and only acts ditzy (she seems quite smart once you start a real convo). I've had great fun for a reasonable price below typical SRCOI asks. Get a VIP you will not regret it.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Will definitely keep an eye out and bring back to the VIP. I had a dance with her, started conversation. She's definitely not ditzy.
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[QUOTE=Spamlocke;4588153]Any intel on Missy or SiN? Making a NY resolution to go to COI and try out the famous ones.[/QUOTE]Do a search on her in this forum to get your answer.
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[QUOTE=BuddhaHead;4588629]Do a search on her in this forum to get your answer.[/QUOTE]Not a lot of info on Missy and SiN doesn't yield any results in search. Maybe 3 letters is too short?
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[QUOTE=Spamlocke;4590006]Not a lot of info on Missy and SiN doesn't yield any results in search. Maybe 3 letters is too short?[/QUOTE]Both are uhm and will provide you with excellent service in VIP.
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[QUOTE=Spamlocke;4590006]Not a lot of info on Missy and SiN doesn't yield any results in search. Maybe 3 letters is too short?[/QUOTE]SiN works at Paradise only now, typically Friday & maybe Saturday nights. Absolute queen bee there so you'll need to get in line (stage tip, ask for dance when she picks up tip, etc.) and wait. At least she lets you know if she's pre-booked solid for more than a couple hours. Unless you're a regular making appointments, it's pretty much pure happenstance if you get an audience but if you do very very likely you'll forget the hassles of getting there.
Missy at Synn you need to chase down or ask a waitress to fetch. She isn't great at floor mingling. My one contact with her was adequate & reasonable, but she seemed to be sporting a strong "I wish I was anywhere but here doing this" attitude; maybe it was a bad day for her, or she found my chiseled features & rippling muscles too much (that's a joke stolen from the Simpsons). Catch her in a better mood & you may find her more worthy than I did.
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[QUOTE=Jeep5151;4591014]Both are uhm and will provide you with excellent service in VIP.[/QUOTE]So, do these two (Missy and SiN) offer full service? To some, excellent service in VIP is a hand job or a CBJ but not for me.
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[QUOTE=TerrificEnigma;4593242]So, do these two (Missy and SiN) offer full service? To some, excellent service in VIP is a hand job or a CBJ but not for me.[/QUOTE]Yes they do. Most girls at Synn offer FS. Unlike some, Missy and SiN are very reasonable in their tip expectations.
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[QUOTE=JacobsLadder69;4594103]Yes they do. Most girls at Synn offer FS. Unlike some, Missy and SiN are very reasonable in their tip expectations.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. I do assume most girls at Synn offer FS but wasn't sure about these two due to some ambiguity in the posts and searching SiN through forums didn't give me any hits.
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SynnCOI
Just thought I should share this since I don't usually hit the strip clubs but I went to SynnCOI a few months ago and should contribute to the forum. I took Keena to the VIP (15 min) after we talked for a bit and she offered extras (mainly a HJ or CBJ). From what I remember, she sort of an exotic looking white girl, or Latina, with curves on a tight body with curly brown hair and a cute face. Once in the VIP, after I asked for more, she mentioned a ridiculous amount ( 600) for FS and I replied by saying that's too much. Then, she took her offer back saying she didn't really offer FS at the moment although she has in the past. I was going to go with a CBJ but I forgot the condoms in my car and when I raised awareness of that she offered to give me BBBJ. The BBBJ was a bit sloppy but she didn't go deep enough for my liking although I instructed her to do so. She didn't let me CIM so I grabbed a tissue once I was about to finish so that I wouldn't make a mess. Overall, it was a good experience but more expensive than what I normally spend on HX for GFE FS with a similar hot girl.
Before this experience, I went to Bare Elegance about a year ago and met up with a girl I met through HX. She told me her stage name once but I immediately forgot since I would usually refer to her by her name. When I arrived, I texted her since she wasn't around and she told me she was on her way and to not go with anyone else. Eventually, she arrived and was a bit tipsy. After we talked for a bit she went on stage then I opted for the VIP not knowing what was going to happen. Keep in mind that I had already had FS with her a couple of times and this case was strictly business but I hardly tipped her in the VIP that day since she was very casual about things by leaving the tip up to me. In the VIP, she asked how I came faster (HJ or BJ) and I said with a BJ. After some dancing and teasing, she gave me a very good BBBJ with CIM and swallowed me dry. I suppose that I could've had FS with her in the VIP but I didn't push it. After that, she told me that whenever I wanted FS to just visit her at her apartment and tip accordingly. I know that this doesn't belong in this forum but these are the last two occasions I went to a strip club in the last 3 years.
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[QUOTE=TerrificEnigma;4594299]Just thought I should share this since I don't usually hit the strip clubs but I went to SynnCOI a few months ago and should contribute to the forum. I took Keena to the VIP (15 min) after we talked for a bit and she offered extras (mainly a HJ or CBJ). From what I remember, she sort of an exotic looking white girl, or Latina, with curves on a tight body with curly brown hair and a cute face. Once in the VIP, after I asked for more, she mentioned a ridiculous amount ( 600) for FS and I replied by saying that's too much. Then, she took her offer back saying she didn't really offer FS at the moment although she has in the past. I was going to go with a CBJ but I forgot the condoms in my car and when I raised awareness of that she offered to give me BBBJ. The BBBJ was a bit sloppy but she didn't go deep enough for my liking although I instructed her to do so. She didn't let me CIM so I grabbed a tissue once I was about to finish so that I wouldn't make a mess. Overall, it was a good experience but more expensive than what I normally spend on HX for GFE FS with a similar hot girl.
Before this experience, I went to Bare Elegance about a year ago and met up with a girl I met through HX. She told me her stage name once but I immediately forgot since I would usually refer to her by her name. When I arrived, I texted her since she wasn't around and she told me she was on her way and to not go with anyone else. Eventually, she arrived and was a bit tipsy. After we talked for a bit she went on stage then I opted for the VIP not knowing what was going to happen. Keep in mind that I had already had FS with her a couple of times and this case was strictly business but I hardly tipped her in the VIP that day since she was very casual about things by leaving the tip up to me. In the VIP, she asked how I came faster (HJ or BJ) and I said with a BJ. After some dancing and teasing, she gave me a very good BBBJ with CIM and swallowed me dry. I suppose that I could've had FS with her in the VIP but I didn't push it. After that, she told me that whenever I wanted FS to just visit her at her apartment and tip accordingly. I know that this doesn't belong in this forum but these are the last two occasions I went to a strip club in the last 3 years.[/QUOTE]So let me get this straight, she offered you FS while she gave everyone else ultra low mileage lap without even mentioning anything else. You must be one special mufka I mean don't you think she would've offered that to anyone so she could make more $$ I'm just curious.
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[QUOTE=ILubKitty69;4595003]So let me get this straight, she offered you FS while she gave everyone else ultra low mileage lap without even mentioning anything else. You must be one special mufka I mean don't you think she would've offered that to anyone so she could make more $$ I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]Which girl are you referring to? If it's at Synn, I'm sure most girls offer FS and Keena probably did too. I'm not lucky at all. She was probably trying to get more out of me and I didn't want to give in but I'm just describing this how it went.
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[QUOTE=TerrificEnigma;4595307]Which girl are you referring to? If it's at Synn, I'm sure most girls offer FS and Keena probably did too. I'm not lucky at all. She was probably trying to get more out of me and I didn't want to give in but I'm just describing this how it went.[/QUOTE]I'm a regular at synn and yes I was referring to keena and she doesn't offer FS, matter of fact her dancers are ultra low mileage I and so many other people consider her as just a great warm up.
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[QUOTE=ILubKitty69;4595397]I'm a regular at synn and yes I was referring to keena and she doesn't offer FS, matter of fact her dancers are ultra low mileage I and so many other people consider her as just a great warm up.[/QUOTE]Anyone ever got FS with Sabrina at Synn? She discussed with me one time but ended up retracting the offer. I'm still regret not sealing the deal.
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[QUOTE=Jeep5151;4596343]Anyone ever got FS with Sabrina at Synn? She discussed with me one time but ended up retracting the offer. I'm still regret not sealing the deal.[/QUOTE]No surprise that she retracted. I'll bet she never intended on going thru with it. She's a well known LM dancer. Both her and her sister Daphne.
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[QUOTE=Jeep5151;4596343]Anyone ever got FS with Sabrina at Synn? She discussed with me one time but ended up retracting the offer. I'm still regret not sealing the deal.[/QUOTE]She does not offer FS yet, but we all know it's just a matter of time.
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[QUOTE=ILubKitty69;4595397]I'm a regular at synn and yes I was referring to keena and she doesn't offer FS, matter of fact her dancers are ultra low mileage I and so many other people consider her as just a great warm up.[/QUOTE]
Ah, okay. Thanks for the insight as I didn't know. But, I did get a BJ from her which escalated from a CBJ offering to BBBJ because I forgot the condoms. She said that I looked like a clean guy and didn't mind doing that with me but upped the rate. Prior to that, I mentioned FS and she thought about it and mentioned 600 but then backed off saying she didn't offer FS after I complained about the rate. As a matter of fact, she was wearing a butt plug that day but maybe it's to tease guys visually.
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[QUOTE=ILubKitty69;4596803]She does not offer FS yet, but we all know it's just a matter of time.[/QUOTE] she has been working there for years and I'm pretty impressed that she hasn't turned yet. I just needed to verify that it wasn't just me she turning down. Thanks.
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Dvcoi
Haven't been in 10 years but it's closing today.
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[QUOTE=PaperTiger24;4599663]Haven't been in 10 years but it's closing today.[/QUOTE]I have been going to DvCOI for 10 years and just happened to show jp today to find out it was the last day. I guess the few dancers left found out today without any warning.
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[QUOTE=PaperTiger24;4599663]Haven't been in 10 years but it's closing today.[/QUOTE]I doubt that anyone is too surprised. They have been dying a slow death for years.
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[QUOTE=JacobsLadder69;4599932]I doubt that anyone is too surprised. They have been dying a slow death for years.[/QUOTE]True. And due to that the few girls left were happy to provide extras to there dwindiling regulars. For a great price unlike Synn.
So where to look now for a new home?
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[QUOTE=RoscoRules;4604436]True. And due to that the few girls left were happy to provide extras to there dwindiling regulars. For a great price unlike Synn.
So where to look now for a new home?[/QUOTE]I think most of the few remaining dancers will head to the other nude clubs nearby. Expect to see them either at SRCOI or Synn. I doubt any will head to Paradise or Bliss since those are homes for fatties.