Yeah, well good luck with that. LOL.
[QUOTE=Erich711;1911496]Gentlemen, this should be the new standard!
[URL]http://www.youporn.com/watch/8402876/massage-rooms-blonde-teen-massages-client-s-cock-with-her-tight-pussy/[/URL]
Sigh. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
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Yeah, well good luck with that. LOL.
[QUOTE=Erich711;1911496]Gentlemen, this should be the new standard!
[URL]http://www.youporn.com/watch/8402876/massage-rooms-blonde-teen-massages-client-s-cock-with-her-tight-pussy/[/URL]
Sigh. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Erich711;1911496]Gentlemen, this should be the new standard!
[URL]http://www.youporn.com/watch/8402876/massage-rooms-blonde-teen-massages-client-s-cock-with-her-tight-pussy/[/URL]
Sigh. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Certainly a nice thought, but I don't see it happening.
[QUOTE=Crutch;1912013]Certainly a nice thought, but I don't see it happening.[/QUOTE]And I was waiting for her to put on a hat, but that never happened. Be safe. Play safe.
[QUOTE=CuteAndCoo;1912258]And I was waiting for her to put on a hat, but that never happened. Be safe. Play safe.[/QUOTE]I believe he is referring to a rubber.
Had the opportunity to sample another of the Spanish group last week, Krystal. Another that is really quite attractive, and totally my type in regards to bodymorph. Massage was pretty darn good in my opinion, especially a fan of her work on arms, shoulders, neck. Needs to strengthen up the work on the legs, but she does have a very effective pre flop tease while working the hammies. With all of the great tease and almost mandatory roaming before the flip I thought post flip was going to be monumental. Unfortunately she is a bit withdrawn during the actual finish. Perhaps just a bit new to the work and needs a little time under the belt to get more comfortable, but I would certainly recommend.
She is indeed Roxy's older sister. I saw her for a bit today. Either she or I am confused about how things are supposed to go By Spanish. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw all of the By Spanish girls before Roxy and Daisy left. Not once did I pay for VIP. Not once did I leave without happiness. I arranged a half hour normal massage with Cassidy just like every other time I have contracted a By Spanish girl. So we start, and she asks if I want VIP. No. May I get naked anyway? Sure. She proceeds to give me one excellent massage, pretty much Nuruesque. I'm thinking, it must run in the family! After a dreamy 40 minutes, she informs me we're running over. I inquire about the flip and she says that's VIP! So regular is Naked and Happiness is VIP? That has not been my experience. Am I wrong?
[QUOTE=TucsonTaoist;1918159]She is indeed Roxy's older sister. I saw her for a bit today. Either she or I am confused about how things are supposed to go By Spanish. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw all of the By Spanish girls before Roxy and Daisy left. Not once did I pay for VIP. Not once did I leave without happiness. I arranged a half hour normal massage with Cassidy just like every other time I have contracted a By Spanish girl. So we start, and she asks if I want VIP. No. May I get naked anyway? Sure. She proceeds to give me one excellent massage, pretty much Nuruesque. I'm thinking, it must run in the family! After a dreamy 40 minutes, she informs me we're running over. I inquire about the flip and she says that's VIP! So regular is Naked and Happiness is VIP? That has not been my experience. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]That's news to me too... I thought VIP was them getting naked... Either way I would have expected to leave happy.
[QUOTE=TucsonTaoist;1918159]She is indeed Roxy's older sister. I saw her for a bit today. Either she or I am confused about how things are supposed to go By Spanish. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw all of the By Spanish girls before Roxy and Daisy left. Not once did I pay for VIP. Not once did I leave without happiness. I arranged a half hour normal massage with Cassidy just like every other time I have contracted a By Spanish girl. So we start, and she asks if I want VIP. No. May I get naked anyway? Sure. She proceeds to give me one excellent massage, pretty much Nuruesque. I'm thinking, it must run in the family! After a dreamy 40 minutes, she informs me we're running over. I inquire about the flip and she says that's VIP! So regular is Naked and Happiness is VIP? That has not been my experience. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]You are correct many a times I've just done the "regular" massage, but always left happy no matter what. VIP is just them getting naked and more roaming. Good heads up as I def won't see Cassidy.
Nov 1, BP, Mature Woman: Massage by Susan. Out call etc. Set up appointment and she was on time. Pleasant looking woman probably 40's, decent conversation and massage was overall good, but not excellent. No hanky-panky at all, never even came close to the crotch area. Said she works for some agency. Definitely won't repeat. By the way, there's a younger member same phone number, Jennifer, I believe so I'm "guessing" there's no hanky-panky with her either.
[QUOTE=TNutty;1918306]You are correct many a times I've just done the "regular" massage, but always left happy no matter what. VIP is just them getting naked and more roaming. Good heads up as I def won't see Cassidy.[/QUOTE]I had first seen Byspanish herself in 2007 when she was 22 yrs old and seen only her for 5 years. I also seen many if her girls, Christina, Daisy, Heather, Vanessa after she retired. That was before she started the VIP. Not once did I not get a happy ending for a regular massage. I did see Daisy once and Christina once just as the VIP started and I did go with that. Seems like some of the girls make their own rules concerning what us offered for what client's choose. I do not go there and have not for two years. I see Daisy / Mina, they are #1 you feel. I selfishly do not like giving them to many promotes as that makes those Guy's that see them harder to schedule an appointment. All in all mist that get massages regularly already know they are the best.
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[QUOTE=TucsonTaoist;1918159]She is indeed Roxy's older sister. I saw her for a bit today. Either she or I am confused about how things are supposed to go By Spanish. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw all of the By Spanish girls before Roxy and Daisy left. Not once did I pay for VIP. Not once did I leave without happiness. I arranged a half hour normal massage with Cassidy just like every other time I have contracted a By Spanish girl. So we start, and she asks if I want VIP. No. May I get naked anyway? Sure. She proceeds to give me one excellent massage, pretty much Nuruesque. I'm thinking, it must run in the family! After a dreamy 40 minutes, she informs me we're running over. I inquire about the flip and she says that's VIP! So regular is Naked and Happiness is VIP? That has not been my experience. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]Yeah, you're wrong in assuming that in the business these women are in that they won't try to exploit every angle possible for their own benefit.
Just a quick note. Saw Cassidy at Spanish again and inquired about this recent post regarding her reg services. She didn't want to say much, I feel as if she couldn't say much, she said that there had been a huge misunderstanding on how things were done at Spanish. Sounds to me like some one wasnt trained rite! I personally always VIP, but she said she is on the rite track and hopes she can get back on the good!! You can't go wrong with her! Thats that. Night all!
I got the chance to see Daisy again yesterday and wow. I'm amazed how she continually changes it up and keeps it new and original. On top of that, this girl actually has a great personality to go along with all those skills.
[QUOTE=GetTheJobDone;1921195]Just a quick note. Saw Cassidy at Spanish again and inquired about this recent post regarding her reg services. She didn't want to say much, I feel as if she couldn't say much, she said that there had been a huge misunderstanding on how things were done at Spanish. Sounds to me like some one wasnt trained rite! I personally always VIP, but she said she is on the rite track and hopes she can get back on the good!! You can't go wrong with her! Thats that. Night all![/QUOTE]Well she was originally with the now defunct aZona group, perhaps they had a different training regimen there.
Should probably advertise under Escorts because there's no pretense of a massage. Had her over the the house a couple of weeks age and, as always, she's a GFE. She's great if you can deal with her having a time deficiency. In fact, I don't think she has a concept of time. We had a 2:30 appointment. Well, 2:30 no Jess, 3:00 no Jess, no answer to texts or calls, 3:30 no Jess, 4:00 no Jess and then lo and behold about 4:15 look who's knocking at the door. Once inside she sure made up for it, she's up for most anything. She's good, real good.
Had the pleasure of seeing Mina a couple of weeks back while in town for an hour. Well worth the trip and quite an exceptional experience (slightly on the high-priced side for the HE). Mina is beautiful and personable, although the massage wasn't as hard as I usually like. I'm hoping to experience Daisy the next time I'm around. BTW, do any of the regulars know if anything else is available on the menu from either ladies? In closing, definitely would repeat with Mina (also, while "enhancements" aren't usually my thing, Mina pulls it off incredibly! Happy hunting and thanks for all of the information on the forum.
[QUOTE=Crutch;1921945] In fact, I don't think she has a concept of time. We had a 2:30 appointment. Well, 2:30 no Jess, 3:00 no Jess, no answer to texts or calls, 3:30 no Jess, 4:00 no Jess and then lo and behold about 4:15 look who's knocking at the door.[/QUOTE]You expected anything different?
It has been some time since I've seen a report about anyone visiting an AMP. Has anyone been to one lately?
More than one person has said they thought there were extras here? Anyone know?
[QUOTE=TucsonTaoist;1926459]More than one person has said they thought there were extras here? Anyone know?[/QUOTE]I was there about a year ago and nothing was on the menu other than a legit massage.
[QUOTE=Pacesco;1924340]Had the pleasure of seeing Mina a couple of weeks back while in town for an hour. Well worth the trip and quite an exceptional experience (slightly on the high-priced side for the HE). Mina is beautiful and personable, although the massage wasn't as hard as I usually like. I'm hoping to experience Daisy the next time I'm around. BTW, do any of the regulars know if anything else is available on the menu from either ladies? In closing, definitely would repeat with Mina (also, while "enhancements" aren't usually my thing, Mina pulls it off incredibly! Happy hunting and thanks for all of the information on the forum.[/QUOTE]Hear much about Daisy and Mina. Any reports on Destiny or Desiree?
Had the recent opportunity to try another of the Spanish ladies, Jazell. The photos she posts in the adverts do not show her face, but rest assured she is a very cute, even demure girl. Additionally, great body IMHO. Very sweet girl who was a pleasure to chat with on a myriad of topics throughput the session. Certainly one of the better of the group skill wise for the massage, especially great work on the neck. Pleasant tease here and there where needed makes the session enticing throughout. And on the flip, well all I can say is not at all disappointed, very much a fan of her style.
D DOg.
[QUOTE=Gilligan46;1927154]Hear much about Daisy and Mina. Any reports on Destiny or Desiree?[/QUOTE]Tried-dissappointed--will not do it again.
[QUOTE=Gilligan46;1927154]Hear much about Daisy and Mina. Any reports on Destiny or Desiree?[/QUOTE]Before I answer you question let me say this. I use to post under a different name. A personal situation forced me to change my log in and I have not posted since then.
In the past I have seen Roxy, Daisy, Mina, Chloe, Jazz, a girl who's name I can't remember (worked for Spanish and several girls from the Tempe Scottsdale area. I enjoyed my time with all of them, but not so much that I wanted to see them again, except for Casey in south Scottsdale. I was her regular for the 3 years ILived there.
On to Destiny, I am a single dad with very little time to myself. Sometimes I have to wait months between massages. Given that my time is so limited I want to maximize the pleasure that I receive. I saw Destiny for the first time when she was still with Spanish. IMO we had a very good connection, after my session with her I was left yearning for more, not because she didn't do a great job, but because she was so good to me that I ft that I couldn't, get enough of her. She disappeared shortly after that so I wasn't able to see her again for a while.
When she reappeared I did what ever I had to do to schedule with her again. I arranged to see her and again she exceeded my expectations. She left me feeling that we do have a great connection. I have since seen her several times, and every visit I leave beyond satisfied, but I always leave feeling like I should have spent more time with her. To me, I don't think there would be a long enough session with Destiny. At the end of my last session she surprised me with an amazing treat, it was such a shock that I reacted like a virgin school boy (nothing sexual, but very sensual). I only hope she understands that my reaction was from an unexpected surprise and not a denial. After I left I was really wishing for a do-over. She has always provided an amazing massage, start to finish and has an amazing attitude.
Disclaimer: Call me naive, but I really do believe that Destiny and I have a very good connection. Physically she encompasses everything that I enjoy in a woman. She has the perfect curvy body (most that say this are fat, she really is curvy, perfect to my taste), perfect height, she always smells amazing, she feels amazing to the touch and an amazing attitude to boot! I forget that it's a service while I'm with her, really I've had to drive back because I forgot to pay for my massage in the past.
The only reason I realize that I am there for a service is when is because I pay for it.
I am aware that others have not had similar experiences to mine with Destiny, some have reported bad experiences, but as with all humans for some reason we don't always connect with each other in the same way.
I respect the reports that disagree with mine regarding Destiny, but as long as she continues to accept my appoitments to see her and stays in the buisness, she will be the only woman that I will be seeing. She is my All Time Favorite.
PM me if you want to see some of my old reviews on various sites. Maybe some of my old ones are still here.
There seems to be an ad on backpage advertising an AMP on Oracle and Orange Grove, the ads say 6336 and. Oracle. I've been there. I've looked. I found an actual Rubs place but that's it. Back in the good old days when people actually discussed the AMP's here, there was mention of this place, and about how it was in the back in a secluded spot or something, but I just can't find it.
Can someone help me out?
[QUOTE=Gilligan46;1927154]Hear much about Daisy and Mina. Any reports on Destiny or Desiree?[/QUOTE]Destiny is an awesome chick. Des I dunno haven't seen her yet but the really new chick Belia hasnt massaged much yet but she's pretty good too for a newbie. All hotties too and take care of ya.
Its located in the shopping center on the southeast corner of oracle and orange grove, tucked away in the corner of the complex. Its really not to hard to find. If you enter the parking lot from orange grove it will be right there on your left. From my experience there is only one lady that works there. Typical pay for an hour get 20-25 min, 10-15 min in is the flip. Menu comes for a price. I will never repeat.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;1928721]There seems to be an ad on backpage advertising an AMP on Oracle and Orange Grove, the ads say 6336 and. Oracle. I've been there. I've looked. I found an actual Rubs place but that's it. Back in the good old days when people actually discussed the AMP's here, there was mention of this place, and about how it was in the back in a secluded spot or something, but I just can't find it.
Can someone help me out?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShortManSexy;1928900]Destiny is an awesome chick. Des I dunno haven't seen her yet but the really new chick Belia hasnt massaged much yet but she's pretty good too for a newbie. All hotties too and take care of ya.[/QUOTE]I might could be wrong but ShortManSexy is very likely Destiny. I recognize the texting style. I suspect Alfun is her too or a BF but hard to say.
That said, Destiny isn't that bad, and she was known to give a very sensuous BBBJ but was considered to be a little too expensive. Never known for FS. New girl Deseree' known to be ok too but no known intelligence on whether she has any further menu. Even less is known about Belia at this time.
Honestly girls, you are in a tough business, but it's still a choice. The more services you offer at better prices the more business you will have. Of course there are std risks, the risks of running into a P.S.ycho, and LE. This also applies to us as well when we partake in this lifestyle.
But the allure of lots of quick $$ when a woman is desperate with no better options and bad drug habits or single mom or a bad BF just makes it easy to rent her vagina (or mouth) out. A few, just a very few, might walk away with no physical or mental damage. I have met one or two that deserved better; no, they all deserve better.
But they need to sell it, guys need to buy it. That's a simple fact that's been true for many a millennium.
I give up on Daisy. I posted before how every single time I was told, "Daisy decided to take today off." Seriously? Why advertise that day then? Anyway, I tried again and not even a response to my text.
I have never seen Daisy, but I am going to chalk her up with the other flakes that advertise but that we can never get a response from: I.e. Anna.
I know you guys say she is great and I've been dying to try her myself, but never, not once that I've ever tried to have a massage could I get one.
A little venting here. Sorry about that, but just disappointed I never had the opportunity with someone you all love.
Since I couldn't meet up with Daisy, I thought I'd try Jazz out again. It had been a couple of months since I had seen her so I thought I'd visit again.
http://tucson.backpage.com/BodyRubs/jazz-29/25423643
She asks for a 50 donation for 30 minutes which is awesome I think. Remembering last time that she said that the friendlier I am to her the friendlier she is to me. So I doubled the donation and put $ on the table for 30 minutes.
She greeted me at the door wearing a smile. And nothing else.
I got on the massage table and she went to work on a nice sensual massage for about 15+ minutes. After she could tell I was very excited she said, "Feel free to flip over whenever you want. No rush.
I like this provider because she isn't all about the finish and go. So many massage providers rush you to the pop. And push you out the door (see my review on Onyx).
I decided to flip a minute or two later, not because I wanted to finish, but I wanted a better view. I find her butt to be very nice and her eyes you can get lost in.
I touched a lot, but I'm personally not into FIV so I didn't try that, but I didn't get the impression that was off the table. I did touch the lips a little without any pull-back from her. So I would say free roaming.
On the flip she teased me a lot with mouth, hands, hair, and breasts. But she didn't rush the pop. No oral but the tongue was on the boys during part of this. She also sucked my nipples like a champ! I am not usually into that, but she turned my crank! I told her I was ready to explode, and she said, "I could tell, that's why I slowed down." That's awesome to me! Again, I hate with they try to rush the session. So she kept teasing me for about another 5-10.
She finished me Russian style. (Look up Russian if you don't know what that is). It was pretty hot. I hadn't done that in years.
Last time I visited her she finished me in a rubbing RCG.
It seems like she doesn't have a routine, just whatever strikes her in the moment. It is like you are with a girlfriend (not a wife) who wants you to enjoy every bit of it.
I really enjoy Jazz and have no idea why I don't just stick with her. I guess I like a little variety.
Jazz is safe, clean, and comfortable. It is an unrushed session and she will clean you up when you are done. Even offered me a shower if I wanted / needed. On a 30 minute that is awesome!
Okay all, make sure you keep reading the reviews here so you can be safe. Also, make sure you post reviews so we can play safe. This is a give and take.
Also, use Google, it is your friend!
So, like many of you I have seen the BP ads for Nirvana [URL]http://tucson.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-best-asian-bodywork/20907173[/URL] .
Like a good monger I looked through the reviews here and read nothing but disappointment. Of course I thought that I was "smarter / better looking / better monger / luckier" whatever I thought I was, I thought I'd give it a try. I really needed a massage so I figured at worse I would get a decent massage. If HE happened, so much the better.
So, as with most of the legit places like this in town, the massage wasn't bad. A ton or deep rubbing. Actually, she bruised my shoulder. I have a nice big bruise there. That didn't excite me, but oh well.
Let me back up and tell you what the occasion was like. In the front there are a bunch of foot rubbing spots. I walk in and she asked, "One Hour" I guess after looking at my beautiful overweight body and realizing that I was probably a pervert looking for an hour table massage, not my piggies being rubbed. She never even offered the foot massage.
So she takes me to the back of the building and into the broom closet which has been divided in two by a drape. I thought supplies were behind the drape, but another massage bed was!
So she tells me to get undressed and put a towel over me. A towel? Wow. How cheap. Anyway, I get naked and put this towel over me which covered my butt, but that was about it.
So the girl comes in and she speaks nothing. Not a lick. Usually they know how to respond to, "What's your name" but I didn't even get a grunt in response. Twice I said, "Ouch" and that got no response either. Oh well, I like rough?
Anyway, while on my stomach not much sensual. I was thinking...completely legit. But there was some extra rubbing on the butt that isn't normal for a completely legit place. And the towel was tossed away a few times. Actually, I think the towel was off more than it was on while I was on my stomach.
So on the flip she took a small towel and wrapped it just around my groin. Kind of like one of those 'man hammocks' the strange guys wear. Everything was exposed except junior and the boys.
So she proceeded to rub my stomach and the area just above junior. She then rubbed right next to junior a lot. No touching, but I was rock hard. Junior poked his head out from underneath and that didn't seem to phase her at all. I tried to gently move her hand that way, but she just kept doing what she was doing. I pulled junior out and rubbed him a few times and she just kept rubbing right next to him. This did not phase her.
I probably should have just finished right there, but I had hoped she would take over.
I call it sensualish because they want you to get hard and I'm sure they are okay if you finish yourself off. I have no doubt because she didn't care I was rubbing it.
So I stopped rubbing and eventually she moved on and finished the massage. After she left I decided to finish myself and left a little gift in the towel.
I tipped 20 out the door. I paid 70 for 90 minutes and I got every minute of the 90.
The worse part was that during the last couple of minutes someone decided to cook their lunch and the room filled up with the worst smelling seafood in the world. It gagged me.
Anyway, would I repeat? Well, my limited experience with these places is the more they know you the more friendly they become. I have no idea my girl's name so I wouldn't be able to ask for her and build that 'relationship.' Also, I didn't like the closeness to another person. There ended up being a guy next to me behind the curtain and I didn't enjoy hearing his moaning. If it was a women in there, maybe that would have been different!
Because of the bruises, the food smell, and no "accidental" touching at all, I think I will pass on future visits. If I need to get a really deep massage, maybe.
Keep reading these reviews guys. They are your friends! Also, please post some to help everyone else out!
Use google to check out girl's phone numbers before you call. Be safe and play safe!
I strongly doubt that Destiny would go as far as accepting lunch from an old guy (40) like myself, much less be my girlfriend!
[QUOTE=MrGoodTime;1929414]I might could be wrong but ShortManSexy is very likely Destiny. I recognize the texting style. I suspect Alfun is her too or a BF but hard to say.
That said, Destiny isn't that bad, and she was known to give a very sensuous BBBJ but was considered to be a little too expensive. Never known for FS. New girl Deseree' known to be ok too but no known intelligence on whether she has any further menu. Even less is known about Belia at this time.
Honestly girls, you are in a tough business, but it's still a choice. The more services you offer at better prices the more business you will have. Of course there are std risks, the risks of running into a P.S.ycho, and LE. This also applies to us as well when we partake in this lifestyle.
But the allure of lots of quick $$ when a woman is desperate with no better options and bad drug habits or single mom or a bad BF just makes it easy to rent her vagina (or mouth) out. A few, just a very few, might walk away with no physical or mental damage. I have met one or two that deserved better; no, they all deserve better.
But they need to sell it, guys need to buy it. That's a simple fact that's been true for many a millennium.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alfun;1929708]I strongly doubt that Destiny would go as far as accepting lunch from an old guy (40) like myself, much less be my girlfriend![/QUOTE]Sorry old man, my mistake.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;1928721]There seems to be an ad on backpage advertising an AMP on Oracle and Orange Grove, the ads say 6336 and. Oracle. I've been there. I've looked. I found an actual Rubs place but that's it. Back in the good old days when people actually discussed the AMP's here, there was mention of this place, and about how it was in the back in a secluded spot or something, but I just can't find it.
Can someone help me out?[/QUOTE]It's closed.
[QUOTE=Uncivil;1926188]It has been some time since I've seen a report about anyone visiting an AMP. Has anyone been to one lately?[/QUOTE]Been going to TN for months. Friendly girls. Different endings...no probs...
Thought I would chime in in this one. Still been making the rounds to revisit all the independents in the city over the last few months and managed to get back to revisit Destiny last month. Actually wanted to sample her first addition to staff, but she was already booked, so I decided to see Destiny herself since in had been some time. Was not disappointed. Don't really know whatever happened that had her split from the spanish crew, but that was a shame as she was a good addition to that group and easily one of the better servers there. Did a 45 min session with her a really enjoyed myself. I would say that she has definitley improved over time as I would imagine any of them should if they are serious about getting and keeping clients. Massage was good and the flip was great. Any one actually manages to see either of her new associated to this date? Been curious myself.
Anyone partake of Velvet? She's been advertising on backpage over last week or 2. Big curves!
Thanks.
[QUOTE=DesertDog;1930395]Thought I would chime in in this one. Still been making the rounds to revisit all the independents in the city over the last few months and managed to get back to revisit Destiny last month. Actually wanted to sample her first addition to staff, but she was already booked, so I decided to see Destiny herself since in had been some time. Was not disappointed. Don't really know whatever happened that had her split from the spanish crew, but that was a shame as she was a good addition to that group and easily one of the better servers there. Did a 45 min session with her a really enjoyed myself. I would say that she has definitley improved over time as I would imagine any of them should if they are serious about getting and keeping clients. Massage was good and the flip was great. Any one actually manages to see either of her new associated to this date? Been curious myself.[/QUOTE]I'd stay away she seems to hire thief's. That new girls gone becuz she stole a bunch of money.
[QUOTE=ShortManSexy;1930708]I'd stay away she seems to hire thief's. That new girls gone becuz she stole a bunch of money.[/QUOTE]Didn't this girl used to work for Spanish or Sky? Same girl?
[QUOTE=Katman1209;1930526]Anyone partake of Velvet? She's been advertising on backpage over last week or 2. Big curves!
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Same ole Velvet of formerly of both Spanish and Sky.