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Both of these ads, I've texted the numbers several times trying to get a location to come visit. They have never answered. How do they expect people to come visit when they don't list an address and also fail to provide one when requested? Anyone know where these 2 places are?[/QUOTE]The Chinese groups that run the majority of these AAMPs have locations all over. They also have a pool of phone operators competing with each other to drive business there. They get commission when someone uses their number to arrange an appt. That's why there are so many numbers that send you to the same addresses. Those phone operators post all those spammy non-city-specific ads.

If you're lucky enough to connect with a PO who doesn't change their number often, you can actually build a small rapport and they will direct you to the "better" girls. I've even had one tell me not to waste my time going because the girl was old. They only get paid if the client goes thru with the appt and this PO knows I'll politely walk on a fatty, granny, or uggo.

So I don't think this ad is a scam. It's just lazy. Shotgun marketing.

[QUOTE=AussieFury;6266762]The Chinese groups that run the majority of these AAMPs have locations all over. They also have a pool of phone operators competing with each other to drive business there. They get commission when someone uses their number to arrange an appt. That's why there are so many numbers that send you to the same addresses. Those phone operators post all those spammy non-city-specific ads.

If you're lucky enough to connect with a PO who doesn't change their number often, you can actually build a small rapport and they will direct you to the "better" girls. I've even had one tell me not to waste my time going because the girl was old. They only get paid if the client goes thru with the appt and this PO knows I'll politely walk on a fatty, granny, or uggo.

So I don't think this ad is a scam. It's just lazy. Shotgun marketing.[/QUOTE]Thanks. The whole point I'm trying to make, is that they've never answered back. If they never give me info to try and arrange an appointment, what was the point of the ad? They can't scam me unless they contact me back after I contact them, and try to offer me an appointment. Do you recognize either of those numbers?

I realize cosmetics can help, and I realize it's her face to do as she pleases. I've no quarrel with that. But I've seen circus clowns wearing less makeup than most of these chicks! I can't even tell what they look like anymore--and maybe that's the point.

Is anyone else with me on this? Does anyone else prefer a more natural appearance? I'm probably dreaming of times long past, but I'm so sick of furry eyes and two-inch plastic fingernails that there is (almost) nobody left! What's worse, they do NOTHING. Bring back the real providers! Thanks for reading. Rant over!

[QUOTE=GinVermo;6269147]I realize cosmetics can help, and I realize it's her face to do as she pleases. I've no quarrel with that. But I've seen circus clowns wearing less makeup than most of these chicks! I can't even tell what they look like anymore--and maybe that's the point.

Is anyone else with me on this? Does anyone else prefer a more natural appearance? I'm probably dreaming of times long past, but I'm so sick of furry eyes and two-inch plastic fingernails that there is (almost) nobody left! What's worse, they do NOTHING. Bring back the real providers! Thanks for reading. Rant over![/QUOTE]I personally don't like excessive tattoos, I don't mind small, tasteful ones, but big giant ones across their chests or all over their legs and asses are a turn off, especially poorly done tattoos. To me it's distracting, takes away from their beauty and makes them look cheap. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Bfm66;6269210]I personally don't like excessive tattoos, I don't mind small, tasteful ones, but big giant ones across their chests or all over their legs and asses are a turn off, especially poorly done tattoos. To me it's distracting, takes away from their beauty and makes them look cheap. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I'm ok with a large piece on a girl if it's done well and actually looks like artwork. What I hate the most is the ones with lots of small random ones that don't make sense or anything on their tits. Leave the boobies alone FFS.

[QUOTE=Bfm66;6269210]I personally don't like excessive tattoos, I don't mind small, tasteful ones, but big giant ones across their chests or all over their legs and asses are a turn off, especially poorly done tattoos. To me it's distracting, takes away from their beauty and makes them look cheap. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Oh indeed. I should have mentioned that also, as I share your opinion. Several women I've seen have said they'd never get tattoos again, and some regret ever having gotten them. I feel the same way about breast enhancements. They will never, ever be better than the real things, though none of it is any of my business.

Just tired of the current crop I suppose. It really seems excessive these days.

Because this board is here to help and assist, which it did in this case BTW. That's why.

[QUOTE=CrackedWheat;6269232]So why is anyone giving this dude advice? If he's willing to look past dozens of alerts on her he clearly doesn't want input? Let him get robbed otherwise he'll never figure out alerts matter.

CW.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bfm66;6269210]I personally don't like excessive tattoos, I don't mind small, tasteful ones, but big giant ones across their chests or all over their legs and asses are a turn off, especially poorly done tattoos. To me it's distracting, takes away from their beauty and makes them look cheap. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]It beats an inked up face in my opinion. Heck. Even fake eye brows is a turn off for me.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;6269299]Because this board is here to help and assist, which it did in this case BTW. That's why.[/QUOTE]When people just come here and ask any question without doing basic research it dilutes the value of the thread. We now have 11 worthless posts because you couldn't be bothered to look at pages of Alerts on a provider. So if the board is here to help and assist for any question now it's less valuable for that because you'd have to wade through a page and half of information that could have easily been obtained with basic effort. If we have a bunch of people who won't don't the initial lifting and just ask questions counting on the members that do the effort that's not a community.

I'm glad your safe but based on your inability to use what is available and just ask the forum instead of doing some research suggests that won't last.

CW.

LOL, I don't know why you think you're some kind of moderator or admin here. If you don't like the posts on this board, you don't have to come here and read them. Pretty simple. Further, you never actually contribute, only complain. We have endless posts of you complaining, how is that anything of value? How are you contributing?

[QUOTE=CrackedWheat;6269577]When people just come here and ask any question without doing basic research it dilutes the value of the thread. We now have 11 worthless posts because you couldn't be bothered to look at pages of Alerts on a provider. So if the board is here to help and assist for any question now it's less valuable for that because you'd have to wade through a page and half of information that could have easily been obtained with basic effort. If we have a bunch of people who won't don't the initial lifting and just ask questions counting on the members that do the effort that's not a community..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Martinh;6269497]It beats an inked up face in my opinion. Heck. Even fake eye brows is a turn off for me.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, the tattooed eyebrows look ridiculous!

[QUOTE=Bfm66;6269210] ...and makes them look cheap.[/QUOTE]And that is why I like women with lots of tattoos.

[QUOTE=Martinh;6269497]It beats an inked up face in my opinion. Heck. Even fake eye brows is a turn off for me.[/QUOTE]I am a square boomer white guy. It's taken me awhile but I can now appreciate most artful tattoos below the neck; an acquired taste perhaps. I find facial tattoos to be uniformly repulsive. There's a stripper well known for extras at one of the clubs who I might otherwise find interesting but for all the face ink. I understand she's actually a pretty cool chick but I can't get past the visuals. Which are actually pretty important criteria for me in a strip club.

What a bunch of pussies, seriously. Guy asking about whether or not he should write a review after receiving bad service and some of the guys on this thread telling him that he needs to honor his agreement with her. Look, we owe a provider nothing after we've paid them. If they aren't good, then then deserve bad press. $300 ain't chump change to just throw away.

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Anyone else disillusioned with this whole hobby up here, or is it just me? Prices keep increasing without justification, the size of these broads increase with it, service is tanking, menus shrinking, the drugs these women are all on make them completely unreliable for keeping appointment time. How does any provider have the balls to ask over $300 for a hh, an hour even, and not have a fucking incall? Then not even be able to run on time for an appointment time they agreed to? Not to mention they're all fuck ugly, anything remotely attractive is some garden variety eastern European, and they're mostly attractive because they aren't the size of a fucking prius.

Menus are limiting now, any mention of some provider being cool with open services without an upcharge gets flooded so fast they jack the rates sky high and they don't come down. Even in anonymity a lot of these "guys" can't be truthful or they'll get red jellied until they self ban or one of these disgruntled hookers pays to have them banned, or some starstruck sucker doesn't like another john talking bad about his favorite gal and runs off good intel posters. Happens here and on simpland TNA. STG is a complete fucking shit show too, same fenty smoking trash that wander the streets and can't keep time for shit. Been feeling this for a long time, should hang it up. It isn't hassle free anymore, it isn't uncomplicated and quick / easy. Most of the ones being posted here I wouldn't want to be caught leaving last call with, but we're expected to be ok handing them over several hundred dollars for 60 minutes or less? The market here needs a hard course correction, and I don't know what its going to take to make it happen.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;6275815]What a bunch of pussies, seriously. Guy asking about whether or not he should write a review after receiving bad service and some of the guys on this thread telling him that he needs to honor his agreement with her. Look, we owe a provider nothing after we've paid them. If they aren't good, then then deserve bad press. $300 ain't chump change to just throw away.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2477310-Review[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw a couple of women reply to this thread, and actually back up the OP guy. That was very refreshing to see. At least two women said, that if it happened the way the OP said it did, then the SP basically ripped him off, and that he owes her nothing, in the way of a non-review.

It's the last straw today honestly. Everyone on the other board are just some entitled girls with GPS that think they're worth more than anything in the world. Putting no effort in their bodies or attitudes. It's an echo chamber in there. I'm over it. I'll use Eros or some other site.

[QUOTE=Something45;6287469]It's the last straw today honestly. Everyone on the other board are just some entitled girls with GPS that think they're worth more than anything in the world. Putting no effort in their bodies or attitudes. It's an echo chamber in there. I'm over it. I'll use Eros or some other site.[/QUOTE]Yes, I've been getting that impression from them also. The vast majority of them feel like we should feel privileged to give them our money. It's really funny because I don't really have any animosity towards women and I've always been especially nice to escorts because I know a lot of what they do really sucks (literally). The majority of the women on that board that post. Well, I simply have nothing but utter disdain for them.

I think what really rubs me is that they make up their own "rules" for their interaction with guys and when they tell the guy their "rules" and the guy doesn't agree with them and walks, then suddenly he's an asshole and she's on there bitching about him. They want to tell you what to do and you MUST do it or you're a bad person that doesn't respect her. Even worse, is the large collection of (I hate using this word, but I can't think of any other one) simps, that basically lick their feet. "Oh, a gentleman does this for a lady". I'm paying for a hooker, I'm not being a gentleman and I'll be fucking pissed if she acts like a lady.

The atrocious amount of sucking up that men on that board do makes me nauseous. I swear 75% of the men on that board have to be subs, because I don't know ANY real men that would pay hundreds of dollars an hour to simply be treated like a piece of shit (unless that's their thing) and be thrilled and write rave reviews about it.

Lastly, the vast majoriity of the women on there are just not attractive. There. I said it. I was active on that board last summer and having at least one person over each week. Out of the hundreds and hundreds of ads I saw just about daily, I maybe found 10-15 that I'd actually pay for and of those there were only about 5 or 6 where the amount they were asking was comparable to their looks (in my opinion of course). They repeatedly, ask why guys go after the new, hot thing or use STG or other sites and ignore the "well-reviewed providers" that are on that board. It's because the majority of the well-reviewed providers are simply gross.

All that being said, there are a few cool ladies on that site. I simply adore people like Juicy Krystal, Charlie Jones, BEM (I know you all don't like her, I think she's cool), that Johanna Potente chick and a few more that are in Olympia (have not seen any of the above) it's a shame the site can't have more people like them, instead of a bunch of entitled frumpy, hookers that are angry that guys are paying them several hundred dollars an hour for a bad attitude.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6287723]Yes, I've been getting that impression from them also. The vast majority of them feel like we should feel privileged to give them our money. It's really funny because I don't really have any animosity towards women and I've always been especially nice to escorts because I know a lot of what they do really sucks (literally). The majority of the women on that board that post. Well, I simply have nothing but utter disdain for them.

I think what really rubs me is that they make up their own "rules" for their interaction with guys and when they tell the guy their "rules" and the guy doesn't agree with them and walks, then suddenly he's an asshole and she's on there bitching about him. They want to tell you what to do and you MUST do it or you're a bad person that doesn't respect her. Even worse, is the large collection of (I hate using this word, but I can't think of any other one) simps, that basically lick their feet. "Oh, a gentleman does this for a lady". I'm paying for a hooker, I'm not being a gentleman and I'll be fucking pissed if she acts like a lady.

The atrocious amount of sucking up that men on that board do makes me nauseous. I swear 75% of the men on that board have to be subs, because I don't know ANY real men that would pay hundreds of dollars an hour to simply be treated like a piece of shit (unless that's their thing) and be thrilled and write rave reviews about it..[/QUOTE]All true. All the girls on that board are butt ass ugly and old. I cringe when I see the "well reviewed" provider part. Like I really don't want to know how many guys you've slept with in this profession. That one girl who looks like an ass wipe who we all know who has like 20 k posts on that board. Acts like sex work is some sort of career. Being a hooker is not a career. It's a side hustle when you need some money and / or do it while you are a drug addict. It's not something you are supposed to do your entire life. That's just so cringe.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6287723]Yes, I've been getting that impression from them also. The vast majority of them feel like we should feel privileged to give them our money. It's really funny because I don't really have any animosity towards women and I've always been especially nice to escorts because I know a lot of what they do really sucks (literally). The majority of the women on that board that post. Well, I simply have nothing but utter disdain for them.

I think what really rubs me is that they make up their own "rules" for their interaction with guys and when they tell the guy their "rules" and the guy doesn't agree with them and walks, then suddenly he's an asshole and she's on there bitching about him. They want to tell you what to do and you MUST do it or you're a bad person that doesn't respect her. Even worse, is the large collection of (I hate using this word, but I can't think of any other one) simps, that basically lick their feet. "Oh, a gentleman does this for a lady". I'm paying for a hooker, I'm not being a gentleman and I'll be fucking pissed if she acts like a lady.

The atrocious amount of sucking up that men on that board do makes me nauseous. I swear 75% of the men on that board have to be subs, because I don't know ANY real men that would pay hundreds of dollars an hour to simply be treated like a piece of shit (unless that's their thing) and be thrilled and write rave reviews about it.

Lastly, the vast majoriity of the women on there are just not attractive. There. I said it. I was active on that board last summer and having at least one person over each week. Out of the hundreds and hundreds of ads I saw just about daily, I maybe found 10-15 that I'd actually pay for and of those there were only about 5 or 6 where the amount they were asking was comparable to their looks (in my opinion of course). They repeatedly, ask why guys go after the new, hot thing or use STG or other sites and ignore the "well-reviewed providers" that are on that board. It's because the majority of the well-reviewed providers are simply gross.

All that being said, there are a few cool ladies on that site. I simply adore people like Juicy Krystal, Charlie Jones, BEM (I know you all don't like her, I think she's cool), that Johanna Potente chick and a few more that are in Olympia (have not seen any of the above) it's a shame the site can't have more people like them, instead of a bunch of entitled frumpy, hookers that are angry that guys are paying them several hundred dollars an hour for a bad attitude.[/QUOTE]I agree there are some cool ladies, JK is one my favorites to bad she move to Olympia and BEM her performance is incredible even though she is not what you call a looker. I met Olivia Whitman, cool lady, she is a alternative looking lady, not my preference but boy! She is a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=CUpayunh;6287045]There's a cute little Vietnamese girl there she does a great job. Takes her time I saw some other good looking girls there too. Worth a shot. Ask for Kim if you decided to go she's excellent best experience I had in a while. 421 Rainer ave.[/QUOTE]I could not disagree more about Kim.

She's well over 40. Little belly and mom damage. She won't take the dress off all the way.

Terrible boob job with big vertical scars straight down from the nipples. She hates taking off her top.

ROUGH massage snd stretching like she's trying to hurt you. I had to tell her multiple times not to do that shit. Cracked my neck without warning.

More painful stretching on the flip.

Finally got to business. By putting a cover on my flacid unit before an overly aggressive CBJ that had too much teeth scraping the top of my shaft. Tried to coach her on what would work, but never listed. Repeatedly told her to get her finger away from my ass.

Finally got me up after I moved her into a better visual spot for me. Tried to CFS mish but she was pushing back too much and wouldn't take off that dress. So distracting. Asked to finish by hand. She kept jackhammering then tried to 69 me. I don't put my mouth on a pussy I didn't personally see showered.

I told her to stop. She tried to convince to me pay more for another girl there. I got dressed and met the other two on the way out: a cute latina and a HOT AA girl. Both way younger than Kim.

Save your money. She even complained about the "140" I gave her. Even though I gave her 200. House fee splits are not my problem.

CUPayunh: You have two posts here, and after your report of Kim I can't trust your intel. Do you have any association with Sunshine Spa?

[QUOTE=AussieFury;6290066]I could not disagree more about Kim.

She's well over 40. Little belly and mom damage. She won't take the dress off all the way.

Terrible boob job with big vertical scars straight down from the nipples. She hates taking off her top.

ROUGH massage snd stretching like she's trying to hurt you. I had to tell her multiple times not to do that shit. Cracked my neck without warning.

More painful stretching on the flip.

Finally got to business. By putting a cover on my flacid unit before an overly aggressive CBJ that had too much teeth scraping the top of my shaft. Tried to coach her on what would work, but never listed. Repeatedly told her to get her finger away from my ass.

Finally got me up after I moved her into a better visual spot for me. Tried to CFS mish but she was pushing back too much and wouldn't take off that dress. So distracting. Asked to finish by hand. She kept jackhammering then tried to 69 me. I don't put my mouth on a pussy I didn't personally see showered.

I told her to stop. She tried to convince to me pay more for another girl there. I got dressed and met the other two on the way out: a cute latina and a HOT AA girl. Both way younger than Kim.

Save your money. She even complained about the "140" I gave her. Even though I gave her 200. House fee splits are not my problem.

CUPayunh: You have two posts here, and after your report of Kim I can't trust your intel. Do you have any association with Sunshine Spa?[/QUOTE]This is a good example of individual tastes. I agree, the surprise chiropractic adjustments she put on me were unwanted. Cracked the shit out of my neck and lower back. I'm guessing she's not formally trained. Last thing I want is to have to deal with a fucked neck for a few months.

Also, huge pressure to pay more than market. I paid too much for a half hour in and out. And that's after haggling her down from some insane numbers. I don't know if she's in her 40's but I'd say it's possible. Body was ok but yeah the boob scars were there.

I can see how some guys really find her attractive though and she's seemingly into it when you get to the act. Which is rare for the scene. So pluses and minuses and I can see how she's some guys cup of tea. I wouldn't go back to her but might check out the Latina girl.

[QUOTE=TnaHunter2014;6291082]This is a good example of individual tastes. I agree, the surprise chiropractic adjustments she put on me were unwanted. Cracked the shit out of my neck and lower back. I'm guessing she's not formally trained. Last thing I want is to have to deal with a fucked neck for a few months.

Also, huge pressure to pay more than market. I paid too much for a half hour in and out. And that's after haggling her down from some insane numbers. I don't know if she's in her 40's but I'd say it's possible. Body was ok but yeah the boob scars were there.

I can see how some guys really find her attractive though and she's seemingly into it when you get to the act. Which is rare for the scene. So pluses and minuses and I can see how she's some guys cup of tea. I wouldn't go back to her but might check out the Latina girl.[/QUOTE]Bummer we both got fooled by the early report. I wonder if it was an owner-posted "review. ".

I've been pretty busy lately with work so I haven't had a chance to really take a look at TNA. I just checked and it's so ratchet. The girls that call themselves luxurious companions or some other tacky euphemism are all ratchet. Just because you where designer clothes and bags doesn't mean you're luxurious in the least. It just means that you're ratchet as fuck. They all look the same with too much bronzer, the fake eyelashes, and 3-inch nails.

I love how the majority of the ads and profiles no longer include rates on them. They know that if they post their ridiculously overpriced rates that no one will call them. Just saw a girl on there, pretty new, asking for a "special" of $600/ hr and her usual is $750/ hr. Seriously?

I need to start making list of the GPS ho's on there and making a fun list on here.

[QUOTE=BackInSea;6295216]I've been pretty busy lately with work so I haven't had a chance to really take a look at TNA. I just checked and it's so ratchet. The girls that call themselves luxurious companions or some other tacky euphemism are all ratchet. Just because you where designer clothes and bags doesn't mean you're luxurious in the least. It just means that you're ratchet as fuck. They all look the same with too much bronzer, the fake eyelashes, and 3-inch nails.

I love how the majority of the ads and profiles no longer include rates on them. They know that if they post their ridiculously overpriced rates that no one will call them. Just saw a girl on there, pretty new, asking for a "special" of $600/ hr and her usual is $750/ hr. Seriously?

I need to start making list of the GPS ho's on there and making a fun list on here.[/QUOTE]I'm actually contemplating putting nearly everyone on that site on my ignore list so I don't have to scroll through their nonsense. Would be a hassle to do but worth it to filter the 99% I will never partake. As someone said in another thread, rates are getting to the point where workers think they can pay things off with a session or two while putting in barely any effort instead of building up clientele and a good reputation. I think the bubble will burst or they'll have to look for a hustle elsewhere.

You could pay me and I still wouldn't see most of those on the other sites, let alone me paying them anything. If anyone new sees this, remember there is zero correlation between quality of service and rates within reason.

As long as fools keep paying those insane rates, they'll have no incentive to lower prices.

[QUOTE=BackInSea;6295216]I've been pretty busy lately with work so I haven't had a chance to really take a look at TNA. I just checked and it's so ratchet. The girls that call themselves luxurious companions or some other tacky euphemism are all ratchet. Just because you where designer clothes and bags doesn't mean you're luxurious in the least. It just means that you're ratchet as fuck. They all look the same with too much bronzer, the fake eyelashes, and 3-inch nails.

I love how the majority of the ads and profiles no longer include rates on them. They know that if they post their ridiculously overpriced rates that no one will call them. Just saw a girl on there, pretty new, asking for a "special" of $600/ hr and her usual is $750/ hr. Seriously?

I need to start making list of the GPS ho's on there and making a fun list on here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MitchCor;6295517]As long as fools keep paying those insane rates, they'll have no incentive to lower prices.[/QUOTE]The sense I get when I actually bother to talk with any of them is that most aren't getting very many customers at those rates.

I'd gladly pay 600 per hour for a girl who stepped out of a centerfold, was on time, and wasn't a junkie. I won't pay for a piggy, piss poor time management, and an incall that is also a garbage pile.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6295698]The sense I get when I actually bother to talk with any of them is that most aren't getting very many customers at those rates.

I'd gladly pay 600 per hour for a girl who stepped out of a centerfold, was on time, and wasn't a junkie. I won't pay for a piggy, piss poor time management, and an incall that is also a garbage pile.[/QUOTE]I agree. When I was living on the East Coast, I had no problem paying a girl 500-600 for a girl in Midtown when she has a clean incall / hotel, great services, and not ratchet like these ho's on TNA. I've paid 2100 for a 3 hour session with a pornstar that was on my bucket list. I'm NOT going to pay 500-600 for a girl that looks like all the other ratchet girls and the only service they provide is CFS since everything else is off the table.

These ho's asking for 5-star escort prices for negative-star services. Fuck those ratchets.

[QUOTE=BackInSea;6295731]I agree. When I was living on the East Coast, I had no problem paying a girl 500-600 for a girl in Midtown when she has a clean incall / hotel, great services, and not ratchet like these ho's on TNA. I've paid 2100 for a 3 hour session with a pornstar that was on my bucket list. I'm NOT going to pay 500-600 for a girl that looks like all the other ratchet girls and the only service they provide is CFS since everything else is off the table.

These ho's asking for 5-star escort prices for negative-star services. Fuck those ratchets.[/QUOTE]I think most guys would be much more willing if they knew the quality of service was equivalent to the rate. I only do GFE when seeing independents and thoroughly research, but even the best of those are probably equivalent to the average kgirl. Now we're so inundated with low quality that I've all but given up on filtering through them, so even if there were worthwhile ones, I wouldn't know. It becomes a second job at some point.

[QUOTE=AussieFury;6290066]I could not disagree more about Kim.

She's well over 40. Little belly and mom damage. She won't take the dress off all the way.

Terrible boob job with big vertical scars straight down from the nipples. She hates taking off her top.

ROUGH massage snd stretching like she's trying to hurt you. I had to tell her multiple times not to do that shit. Cracked my neck without warning.

More painful stretching on the flip.

Finally got to business. By putting a cover on my flacid unit before an overly aggressive CBJ that had too much teeth scraping the top of my shaft. Tried to coach her on what would work, but never listed. Repeatedly told her to get her finger away from my ass.

Finally got me up after I moved her into a better visual spot for me. Tried to CFS mish but she was pushing back too much and wouldn't take off that dress. So distracting. Asked to finish by hand. She kept jackhammering then tried to 69 me. I don't put my mouth on a pussy I didn't personally see showered.

I told her to stop. She tried to convince to me pay more for another girl there. I got dressed and met the other two on the way out: a cute latina and a HOT AA girl. Both way younger than Kim.

Save your money. She even complained about the "140" I gave her. Even though I gave her 200. House fee splits are not my problem.

CUPayunh: You have two posts here, and after your report of Kim I can't trust your intel. Do you have any association with Sunshine Spa?[/QUOTE]I posted this feedback in the Seattle / Massage Parlor section in reply to what I suspect could be a spa owner advertising. The original "Go see Kim" post is still there while my reply was moved here. Was this not useful information to share alongside the "ad" for Kim? I wasn't ranting or raving. I was posting a massage report in the massage section.

[QUOTE=AussieFury;6297109]I posted this feedback in the Seattle / Massage Parlor section in reply to what I suspect could be a spa owner advertising. The original "Go see Kim" post is still there while my reply was moved here. Was this not useful information to share alongside the "ad" for Kim? I wasn't ranting or raving. I was posting a massage report in the massage section.[/QUOTE]The guy you were posting about is a pretty obvious shill. Still doesn't explain everything but again he is obviously a shill.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6295698]The sense I get when I actually bother to talk with any of them is that most aren't getting very many customers at those rates.

I'd gladly pay 600 per hour for a girl who stepped out of a centerfold, was on time, and wasn't a junkie. I won't pay for a piggy, piss poor time management, and an incall that is also a garbage pile.[/QUOTE]I had some mid looking SW on AA quote me 800 for a blowjob. I don't consider a "CBJ" to be a blowjob, that's just what these suckers keep telling themselves when they are out there getting robbed. A lot of these girls can't even give good head WITHOUT a condom LOL. Like the last girl I saw. Holy lord, that was just the most low effort garbage shit I've ever seen in my life.

I don't understand what SWs out there are doing lately. Right around Christmas I was quoted $500 for full service, all covered. She was definitely hot, not wearing a wig nor ridiculous false eyelashes and not tattted-up, very natural-looking young woman with nice natural strawberry blonde hair and a great body. But $500 on the stroll, and I'm guessing that would have been very limited touching and positions as well, as seems to be the norm out there. CBJ would have probably been more like a covered handjob. I can't say it enough, I almost [I]never[/I] see these girls getting picked-up. Ever. And I mean [I]never ever[/I]. I don't understand how their current pricing and business model has them turning any successful profit at all. They're out there in very short miniskirts wearing next to nothing in 40-degree temperatures in the rain. You'd think that at some point they'd start bargaining a bit to get both some money and some relief from the weather?

I just don't understand. I'm at a loss. And they act as if [I]we're[/I] lucky that they even talk to us. Somebody explain what the hell is going on.

[QUOTE=ProJohn1;6297290]I had some mid looking SW on AA quote me 800 for a blowjob. I don't consider a "CBJ" to be a blowjob, that's just what these suckers keep telling themselves when they are out there getting robbed. A lot of these girls can't even give good head WITHOUT a condom LOL[/QUOTE]

She's hot and I hope all the tech workers stop booking her with all the layoffs. Just look at her don'ts!

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?563043-Lenaxoxo[/URL]

Donations for Time:

Hr-600.

1. 5-850.

Some topics I like discussing:

Bisexuality, Couples, Dirty Talk, Dominant, Duos, Foot, Massaging, Overnight, Role Play, Showering, Spanking, Submissive, Sugar Baby.

Topics I hate discussing:

69, BB Anything, BBBJ, BBBJCIM, BBFS, BDSM, Bisexuality, BLS, BNG, Bondage, Choking, CIM, COB, COF, DATO, DATY, DFK, DT, Facials.

Topics I hate discussing continued:

FC, FIA, Fisting, FIV, Foreplay, French, Gagging, GFE, Greek, Group (4+), Kissing, Lactation, LFK, Pegging, Prostate Massage, Rimming, Russian.

Topics I hate discussing continued:

Spitting, Squirting, TF, Water Sports.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;6297913]I don't understand what SWs out there are doing lately. Right around Christmas I was quoted $500 for full service, all covered. She was definitely hot, not wearing a wig nor ridiculous false eyelashes and not tattted-up, very natural-looking young woman with nice natural strawberry blonde hair and a great body. But $500 on the stroll, and I'm guessing that would have been very limited touching and positions as well, as seems to be the norm out there. CBJ would have probably been more like a covered handjob. I can't say it enough, I almost [I]never[/I] see these girls getting picked-up. Ever. And I mean [I]never ever[/I]. I don't understand how their current pricing and business model has them turning any successful profit at all. They're out there in very short miniskirts wearing next to nothing in 40-degree temperatures in the rain. You'd think that at some point they'd start bargaining a bit to get both some money and some relief from the weather?

I just don't understand. I'm at a loss. And they act as if [I]we're[/I] lucky that they even talk to us. Somebody explain what the hell is going on.[/QUOTE]I think I may who you talking about. Does she stand in front of Amazon Fresh with a black leather jacket and a mini shirt. The one I saw sounded just like you described. Young and natural with a beautiful face. She quoted me 250 half. Perhaps your 500 was for the hour? I only saw her once and easily the best eye candy of 2023 if you like natural youthful beauty.

[QUOTE=Gamper;6303200]She's hot and I hope all the tech workers stop booking her with all the layoffs. Just look at her don'ts!

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?563043-Lenaxoxo[/URL]

Donations for Time:

Hr-600.

1. 5-850.

Some topics I like discussing:

Bisexuality, Couples, Dirty Talk, Dominant, Duos, Foot, Massaging, Overnight, Role Play, Showering, Spanking, Submissive, Sugar Baby.

Topics I hate discussing:

69, BB Anything, BBBJ, BBBJCIM, BBFS, BDSM, Bisexuality, BLS, BNG, Bondage, Choking, CIM, COB, COF, DATO, DATY, DFK, DT, Facials.

Topics I hate discussing continued:

FC, FIA, Fisting, FIV, Foreplay, French, Gagging, GFE, Greek, Group (4+), Kissing, Lactation, LFK, Pegging, Prostate Massage, Rimming, Russian.

Topics I hate discussing continued:

Spitting, Squirting, TF, Water Sports.[/QUOTE]LMAO, might as well rub one out on [URL]spankbang.com[/URL] instead of wasting 600 big ones. Unreal amount of can't dos.

I am beginning to notice more providers on the other board offering specials lately. Maybe the Microsoft and Amazon layoffs are starting to make a dent in the ridiculous rates.

Did a search for of providers in WA on T NA. Clicked on "Tiny" for body type and "No" for breath enhancements.

First Provider that popped up was SnarklePony.

Lmfao. She is huge! The only thing tiny about her is her cucks (Magnus Vens) cock.

WTF. LOL.

I have a few electronics for sale / trade so I decided to hit up TNA. Saw a provider needing an iPhone. However it's ridiculous what's she's offering in return. I saw that the max time was 90 min for an iPhone 13. I told her I have an unlocked 13 Pro Max 512 gb and still was 90 min haha fuck that. I don't know what it is but these girls are asking way too much for what they offer. I would say everyone should band up and fight against it but I know half of you fools will pay for $600 HR for an all safety gal. No disrespect to any of you but all you doing is hurting the game.

Just in case some from the other sites read this (I know they do), if you don't have rates in your ad / profile, you either overcharge or play games and I ignore you.

If you have nothing listed in both ad / profile for menu, I'll ignore you. If you have a page worth of hates, why are you even working. You don't have to put everything into likes too, just omit it.

At least vaguely imply what VIP means so I or everyone else don't have to assume or ask you. VIP is annoying as it is to deduce. Also put GFE in ad title or something if you do it.

Longer sessions should generally have a length discount. I always see longer sessions are prioritized / preferred but then the rates don't encourage it. The funniest rates to me are when 2 separate appointments are equal or less than 1 long appointment.

The combination of ad, profile, and a cursory look at reviews should give a solid indication of what's provided and if it isn't, you're doing something wrong.

I think I've already seen some of the best the state has to offer without going the SB route and very few are worth the average rates I'm seeing currently. There's zero correlation between rate and quality of service after a certain point and funny enough the best I've seen were on the lower end of rates.

Personal thing, but I really like the ones that offer reasonable specials and / or give some kind of incentive to returning clients. Shows that they think about the long term and encourages you to be a regular despite a lot of guys preferring variety. Doesn't have to be through any site, but can be discussed face to face.

Put your damn payment methods somewhere as that could save people trips too.

I think I'm getting bored due to the amount of research involved in this hobby.