Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=GlawDog;6820031][URL]https://www.illinoistimes.com/news-opinion/springfield-man-charged-with-operating-six-houses-of-prostitution-18186581[/URL][/QUOTE]Sad. Are there any reports of John's being arrested?

[QUOTE=CravenMorehead;6823119]Sad. Are there any reports of John's being arrested?[/QUOTE]I haven't heard anything or read anything stating patrons were arrested or targeted in this at all. Still a little unnerving that they orchestrated this takedown.

[QUOTE=Percius917;6823575]I haven't heard anything or read anything stating patrons were arrested or targeted in this at all. Still a little unnerving that they orchestrated this takedown.[/QUOTE]There is something in the indictment that could be unnerving to clients who texted with the female co-conspirator.

[QUOTE=GlawDog;6824897]There is something in the indictment that could be unnerving to clients who texted with the female co-conspirator.[/QUOTE]Well hopefully they were using burner phones and or didn't text anything incriminating to her. There is nothing illegal about inquiring on the times available for a massage appointment. Now, if they were foolish enough to inquire about services and prices, and used their personal phone or an app that is linked to their personal phone that could be problematic.

Is anyone checking out the other spas that are still posting / open?

[QUOTE=SkinnyC217;6825496]Is anyone checking out the other spas that are still posting / open?[/QUOTE]Why don't you get on that and report back here?

Thanks in advance for your contributions.

[QUOTE=Jannisary;6825341]Well hopefully they were using burner phones and or didn't text anything incriminating to her. There is nothing illegal about inquiring on the times available for a massage appointment. Now, if they were foolish enough to inquire about services and prices, and used their personal phone or an app that is linked to their personal phone that could be problematic.[/QUOTE]Authorities would have to get a warrant on user data from a texting app to get any data from them. As long as you are not incriminating yourself through the texting app LE would have no probable cause to get a warrant. Fishing expeditions and wanting to I'd someone is not sufficient probable cause for a warrant. Texting apps can be safe if used properly.

Burner phones are not much safer. LE can get warrants for cellular geolocation data for that burner and figure out the owner that way. They can also track when, where, and how that burner was purchased through warrants and use that information to get a warrant for any security footage from the store in which it was bought or financial data if it was bought using a debit / credit card.

If you are dumb enough to incriminate yourself while texting then you reap what you sow in that situation. I'm not going to feel sorry for you. My texts are simple and to the point. Time, place, and duration our time together. That's it. I do no use any industry specific terms like incall or outcall or reference I saw an ad on STG or whatever. If the other person starts asking what I want or talks about anything outside of the 3 things I only talk about, I stop responding and move on. Example text: Hi Starr. I am interested in meeting you tomorrow at 1 PM at your place for 30 minutes. If this works for you let me know where your place is and I will text you when I'm on my way. If I know their rate I bring that with me. If I don't and they don't tell me what the rate is, I bring an average customary amount.

My biggest pet peeve is when a provider asks me to bring a cover. That right there is an automatic for me to stop communicating and move on and not see that person.

I understand LE would need to get a warrant to get any real information but I highly suspect there was a lot of incriminating texts sent. It doesn't seem to matter how much we preach about not sending incriminating texts, guys will just continue doing it.

[QUOTE=Percius917;6827589]My biggest pet peeve is when a provider asks me to bring a cover. That right there is an automatic for me to stop communicating and move on and not see that person.[/QUOTE]One of my favorite ladies got in the habit of doing this. She's the professional, so there is no reason for her not have the tools needed to do her job. Finally, she lost a 3 hour appointment because she asked a guy to bring covers and spooked him off. Even though I had repeatedly tried to explain to her the issue, it wasn't until her laziness, lack of preparation, or whatever it was finally bit her where it really hurts these gals that she wised up and stopped doing it.

[QUOTE=Jannisary;6828472]I understand LE would need to get a warrant to get any real information but I highly suspect there was a lot of incriminating texts sent. It doesn't seem to matter how much we preach about not sending incriminating texts, guys will just continue doing it.

One of my favorite ladies got in the habit of doing this. She's the professional, so there is no reason for her not have the tools needed to do her job. Finally, she lost a 3 hour appointment because she asked a guy to bring covers and spooked him off. Even though I had repeatedly tried to explain to her the issue, it wasn't until her laziness, lack of preparation, or whatever it was finally bit her where it really hurts these gals that she wised up and stopped doing it.[/QUOTE]I automatically bring 2 covers with me to every single appointment. BBFS is just not an option for me. I don't want to arrive at a meeting and have to deal with the not having a cover issue. Hopefully all mongers bring a cover with them.

BBFS and the risks that come with it are a complete discussion of itself.

[QUOTE=GlawDog;6825696]Why don't you get on that and report back here?

Thanks in advance for your contributions.[/QUOTE]Haven't been on here much recently, just catching up on the posts. I had a 30 min at Jade / Emerald last week and a 60 min a few days ago at 88 spa. Both visits had decent massages and no issues. I don't text the AMPs before hand, I just don't park if I see another vehicle there already.

I have been to Sunflower on and Grand a couple times. Lisa is a hottie. Worth the trip. Full menu. Went to 88. Eh. Ok looking girl. Kitty was strange. Anyone else seen that thing? Saw a new spa right down the road on S Grand. And another on and Dirksen. I am going to try out either the and Dirksen one, the S Grand one or the Lawerence one off McArthur. Anyone have any insight on any of them? Or anyone want to know about one of them?

Going down Sangamon today saw the OPEN sign lit at an old favorite across from the fairgrounds. I pulled in and discovered that the talent is just as good as it used to be!

[QUOTE=Jannisary;6828472]I understand LE would need to get a warrant to get any real information but I highly suspect there was a lot of incriminating texts sent. It doesn't seem to matter how much we preach about not sending incriminating texts, guys will just continue doing it.

One of my favorite ladies got in the habit of doing this. She's the professional, so there is no reason for her not have the tools needed to do her job. Finally, she lost a 3 hour appointment because she asked a guy to bring covers and spooked him off. Even though I had repeatedly tried to explain to her the issue, it wasn't until her laziness, lack of preparation, or whatever it was finally bit her where it really hurts these gals that she wised up and stopped doing it.[/QUOTE]If they mention bring a condom or anything explicit I'm out. Only way I'm still interested is if they have GOOD reviews (multiple) from trusted sources and I know for a fact they aren't LE.

[QUOTE=HungMax;6836449]I have been to Sunflower on and Grand a couple times. Lisa is a hottie. Worth the trip. Full menu. Went to 88. Eh. Ok looking girl. Kitty was strange. Anyone else seen that thing? Saw a new spa right down the road on S Grand. And another on and Dirksen. I am going to try out either the and Dirksen one, the S Grand one or the Lawerence one off McArthur. Anyone have any insight on any of them? Or anyone want to know about one of them?[/QUOTE]I had a nice time at 88 relaxing personally. My provider was in her thirties, decent looking, nice ass, youthful skin. Great tease too. I also saw a place on Jefferson literally next door to five star called day spa massage. Conveniently opened up after a1 shut down.

Curious to know more details on Sunflower, how is it?

I have been here a few times. Tried both girls. Lisa is a hottie. Alai will upsell to 16 instead of 14. Not as good as Lisa. Lisa has a great body. Hard tummy. Bald where it matters. Sexy crotchless number. Full menu. She will only be the 14 unless Alai gets you first. She is ok. Just not as good as Lisa. The massage is subpar. We do the flip and tip first which I am ok with. Might bother some. The massage is really 2 ndary IMO. I expect them to suck. I wonder if you had the same MT at 88 that I had. Her & was definitely something I had never seen before. Sounds like it was the other lady. If you liked 88, go check out sunflower. Be worth it. Just ask for Lisa. Have fun and be safe out there.