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Double standards
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[QUOTE=Omfgitzjin;7158787]They really E Cups?[/QUOTE]When I saw her last year, they were MM C's, maybe large C's if you give her the benefit of the doubt and very firm, not rock solid mind you but you can plainly feel them implants. Based on those that saw her as Barbie she has upgraded her tits and I hope they are done well this time. I was planning to see her cause it's quite rare for any kgirl to openly offer video but it looks like she's taken that off the menu and increased her base price. I'll vote with my wallet and just not see her. The Freesia effect is spreading and I don't like it one bit.
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[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7158769]Nope. I'm the opposite. I can't walk out, mostly because I don't want to hurt the girl's feelings. In many years of mongering, I can think of maybe 3 or 4 times that I wanted to walk out, but couldn't bring myself to do it. I just said, F it! She can turn off the lights and give me a HJ. Then I go home disappointed.
Conversely, there also have been a few times when I wanted to walk out INITIALLY, but I wound up having a good time anyway because the girl put in a huge amount of effort. She turned me back in her favor. And even if she wasn't really my type, she got the job done.
So the results have been mixed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your experience. I can appreciate your caring nature towards someone you've only met once. It's ultimately your choice and money, so as long as are happy with the decision, that's what matters. Although if it hasn't been disclosed already, I would hope you can pass along such rebrand info explicitly or surreptitiously to help others who may not be willing to eat the cost or want to be in that situation.
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[QUOTE=RocketManP;7158828]So uh. Do you do this with other goods and services too?
Like the restaurant serves you food that you pay for, and it tastes like athletes foot. But you don't want to hurt their feelings so you finish the meal that tastes like athletes foot and pay for it too. Or is this only applicable to pussy?
I think ResilientJohn is correct here. B&s rebranding shouldn't be tolerated. If everyone is just afraid to hurt the girls feelings it will just get worse. Maybe not for you but for an average Joe who doesn't want read these forums 24/7. It certainly will.
But I guess who cares about fellow average Joe's feelings and money.[/QUOTE]Whether someone walk out or not is up to them. I think the more important point is to pass on that info so that it can help others decide.
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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7158861]Somehow I have not unintentionally encountered a rebrand in over a hundred girls. Probably a combo of luck, timing, an intel. Mostly intel, since thanks to you and others I know about the girl I'm seeing 75% of the time. The other 25% I'm in that mood where I don't care who I get. But if I ran into a girl I already saw and didn't want to repeat, I would take your advice. I'd laugh and politely say "Oh I didn't realize" and text the booker explaining it. I need to rehearse this for the day it happens.
...[/QUOTE]You're spot on on that having good sources of info is key to avoiding rebrands. I think Boner and others like him who choose to share rebrand info feel a bit underappreciated for their efforts. Sure, a mental cursory nod for the info is great and all but sometimes going through the effort to post a thank you can go a long way. Especially when the posting aspect takes what? Two minutes at most? Rebrand info is very important, more so now as it seems to be on the rise. On top of that, I am fairly certain more girls will be flocking in due to the VERY favorable exchange rate, the best in decades. This can be both good and bad. More girls equals more uncertainty in all aspects, we're not going to have a similar or commensurate increase in mongers or reviews for that matter. And within the new flock, rebrands will appear to take advantage of the cover the new crop can provide. The good part is simply more girls, more options.
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Disclosure
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7159062]Thanks for sharing your experience. I can appreciate your caring nature towards someone you've only met once. It's ultimately your choice and money, so as long as are happy with the decision, that's what matters. Although if it hasn't been disclosed already, I would hope you can pass along such rebrand info explicitly or surreptitiously to help others who may not be willing to eat the cost or want to be in that situation.[/QUOTE]Definitely. I will occasionally report things (like a rebrand or a disappointing session), either here or in private messages to trusted brothers. Just recently you can see my comments on Baby Sugar and Anna. But those are exceptions. Both of those girls are popular, so I don't feel like I'm hurting their business by expressing an honest opinion. Generally speaking, though, I don't like saying too many negative things about a k-girl. If I have a bad session, that's my fault. It means I didn't do my homework. I didn't read enough reviews or send enough PMs seeking info from other mongers. I'm not going to blame the girl for that because it's not her fault.
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[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7159416]Definitely. I will occasionally report things (like a rebrand or a disappointing session), either here or in private messages to trusted brothers. Just recently you can see my comments on Baby Sugar and Anna. But those are exceptions. Both of those girls are popular, so I don't feel like I'm hurting their business by expressing an honest opinion. Generally speaking, though, I don't like saying too many negative things about a k-girl. If I have a bad session, that's my fault. It means I didn't do my homework. I didn't read enough reviews or send enough PMs seeking info from other mongers. I'm not going to blame the girl for that because it's not her fault.[/QUOTE]No, it's a good thing. If I think a girl is good, I can't help but say she's good. But I hope others speak up about what they don't like, so guys can make a good decision. Then the average guy who walks in the door is happier, because he picked a girl that matches. She's happier too.
This is why I stick to straightforward descriptions because they tend to line up well, rather than YMMV details that don't even happen to me on a repeat. Like if a girl is short black hair and pale, petite, with large naturals, you are going to get that. Go see that girl by the way, you deserve her. My rosters pass the Furiosa test where you can pick any girl at random and get maybe an 80% match to what's written on average. We aren't going to agree on every detail but she's obviously the girl described more or less. We all know that girl could change her hair one day with extensions or get a tan, or at least we should know that. And it's not like her regulars can't clarify "Yeah she changed that last week" but at the end of the day we are not here to help people who need every detail explained to them. Might as well say nothing to people who are ungrateful. The biggest variable I see is make up, where she will look very different with/without makeup or changing her style, like Jenny used to look just like her photo but changed her make up style and it's less so when I saw her months later.
I try not to write long essays on girls, but for example I wrote my take on Priva but all her ad photos are heavily PS'd or old from years back. The older pics are actually more accurate than the newer pics ironically, even though she's also significantly older. But she got B cup MMs maybe a year ago with a few other changes, so there's no way to win and say one photo matches. She has smaller tits in all her unedited photos. So I just linked to her TER page which has a ton of different ads that are all her in some way. Best I can do, I'm not going to explain it all or my posts would be even longer than they are. But then what someone else like you can do is chime in and note what they think instead. Since you and I have such overlapping taste, it means more to me anyways. It's appreciated.
The HYA motto is simple. Whenever some MILF lover, service hunter, or even like-minded friend frowns at your girl, you say with all sincerity "Don't worry, I'll take good care of her for you."
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[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7158366]I am 80% certain that's her. It seems like everyone Boner still praises as hot and young want to raise their rate by 50. Should I start gatekeeping if a girl seems busy enough?
Contact: [URL=https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/barbie](click here)[/URL] 5'4" 33 E 100 lbs.[/QUOTE]
Dear Boner,
I hope you are doing well. The Winter wasn't as cold as I expected, but I'm sorry to hear about the wildfires and hope you are safe.
I am writing to thank you this time about your earlier warning of Barbie's rebrand. I believe in our last correspondence you wrote and I quote "Douwoo = Barbie / Baby Peach / Baby Green". Your timely caution is greatly appreciated as is your wise counsel as always. I would not want to pay 400 just to unintentionally repeat a girl that I already saw at a much lower rate of 350, no matter how fine her bosoms may be or enraptured our kisses turn. As it turns out, she has since changed her name back to Barbie and dropped her rate to 360. Be it so. All is well, may you be in good health and have a pleasant year deep in good business.
Yours truly,
D
[QUOTE=Resilient John;7158605]Good eye. I was going to sound the alarm too. TopAngels actually has her explicitly listed as Baby Peach so there you go.[/QUOTE]
Boner just saved us 40 dollars and from walking in on another rebrand. When someone lowers the price of pussy for you, bow down.
[QUOTE=Download X;7158460][B]If you keep a girl's name and raise her rate, only happy people will walk in and see her.[/B] Who cares about the complaints then. It's worse when you hide it. Then the complainers are actual customers who walked in, get surprised, and feel disappointed.[/QUOTE]
This is in the interest of both bookers and customers. It is the best policy for happy visitors.
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My two cents
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Last Chistmas
Yeah I had seen Douwoo ad on other sites a day / two prior to my alert. Doesn't seem like coincidence she suddenly went back to her old Baby Peach name and lowered her rate after my post. CG fixed her name and rate too.
I had a conversation with her which might / not contribute to her going back to Baby Peach name and raising her rate. Course I didn't think the big hike made sense. 360 is more inline with yearly Consumer Pussy Index (CPI).
Pics looked familiar so I posted alert as soon as I remembered who she was. I also like to take credit for everything even if I just speak it into existence. No need to bow down. I hope bros stick together to make things make sense.
Her white knights probably going to make her mad at me. It's fine. If a Kgirl doesn't treasure The Boner, I will just deal with the heartbreak and move on. My heart had been scarred already.
[S]Last Christmas, I gave you my heart[/S]
[S]But the very next day, you gave it away[/S]
[S]This year, to save me from tears[/S]
[S]I'll give it to BB special[/S]
[S]Tell me, Baby Green, do you recognize me?[/S]
[S]Well, it's been a month, it doesn't surprise me[/S]
[S]Now I know what a fool I've been[/S]
[S]But if you kissed me now, I know you'd fool me again[/S]
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7159602]...Boner just saved us 40 dollars and from walking in on another rebrand. When someone lowers the price of pussy for you, bow down...[/QUOTE]
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Their job is to milk us
I would bolt already if I could have sexcation. We could have all reviewed and bring these girls to task. If only there was a Boners Union. With 100 Boners, both the Korgs and Corgs will feel the pressure.
[QUOTE=ReDtoLaunch;7158570]... But if they want to milk our hard earned dollars here in the states which pays better than in their Asian markets, we deserve better efforts & standards....[/QUOTE]Their happy customers may still find them with new name through back channels. I said this years ago, many girls know guys like to see new girls. So it's obvious they think rebranding / new pics can bait in more unsuspecting customers. They won't care about your complaints as long as they keep the money and nobody out them.
Fewer people report rebranding than even reviews. Not proud of doing this to these girls but they leave me with no choice when I was almost tricked. As someone who TOFTT a lot, the main thing that saves me is Boner Sense. Doing this is also a way to sharpen my mind against rebranding / multi-branding.
For those who worry about hurting her business, she can just lower her rate, try harder, and still easily earn more than most customers per hour. Or try another city. Or rebrand again with fake pics.
So even if bookers didn't know, now they will know once I post it. As you know, there will be less shenanigans when somebody is watching. I have more considerations for these girls than they do to me.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7158460]There is a recent trend of changing a girl's name and photo and then charging a lot more for her...
[B]If you keep a girl's name and raise her rate, only happy people will walk in and see her.[/B] Who cares about the complaints then. It's worse when you hide it. Then the complainers are actual customers who walked in, get surprised, and feel disappointed.[/QUOTE]
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Never walked out before
As much as I whined about rebrands and MILFs, I don't actually get tricked that much. It's more like I look at all the ads trying to get some peaches and I see mostly lemons. I will take your advice if I truly don't want to see a girl again. Good advice.
Even the few times I got tricked, I did not remember her until I already got naked or after the session, or I didn't mind / actually had plan to repeat with her. If I use Viagra, it's probably next to impossible for me to get a bad session anyway. Even if I see a CYA twice as heavy as Ppomi, or a 50+ MILF, I may still give it a shot. I have a screw lose. I might feel like how the mighty Boner had fallen after the session, but I may get an ego boost during the session. Sometimes I even thought the girls should pay me. It was mostly on me if a session was meh.
Also rarely cancel. It would take an act of God or somebody in my way to stop me from coming. I am fully committed when I go through the door. Never felt like turning around before.
I do feel sorry for some bros when they TOFTT and get a bad session on girls I would avoid. I can't warn them when it was just a gut feeling.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7158745]...I always find the next part awkward and there really isn't anything to do but be honest and say I don't want to see you again. Once you leave, immediately text the booker that you are walking and why. It is critical to not leave them hanging. It also serves another important role: to inform the booker, girl, and owner that rebrands are not appreciated and tolerated. The more walk outs happen, the more their bottom line is affected. Coupled with calling out rebrands and nipping it in the bud before a walk out situation happens, IMO, is effective in curbing the rise of rebrands.
The aftermath: I can only speak for myself and one other case where someone did get BL. For me, all bookers involved were understanding. Some even apologized, others said they weren't aware, while others took it in stride as part of the business. With so many cross listing these days, I think the minuscule risk of BL is inconsequential to the power we are have in a walk out, in denying a predatory tactic that essentially cons your customers into a situation they don't want to be in.
Anyone else walked out before? If you don't want to share, that's fine too, but a simple confirmation that you have would be appreciated nonetheless.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7159968]Even the few times I got tricked, I did not remember her until I already got naked or after the session, or I didn't mind / actually had plan to repeat with her. If I use Viagra, it's probably next to impossible for me to get a bad session anyway. Even if I see a CYA twice as heavy as Ppomi, or a 50+ MILF, I may still give it a shot. I have a screw lose. I might feel like how the mighty Boner had fallen after the session, but I may get an ego boost during the session. Sometimes I even thought the girls should pay me. It was mostly on me if a session was meh.[/QUOTE]
These days I see most girls on intel, so it's pretty straightforward. But I sometimes have the mood and "want someone new" especially if my ATFs are busy, so I'm cool if the girl isn't a HYA. My worst experiences are from bad attitude, even with a cute girl. She rushes me and makes me feel very unwelcome. This is why I don't walk based on looks since it's not the reason except in the case of F-tier aka "just an old woman". Most C-tier and D-tier girls are a fun time, including MILFs who have a good body or face. Worth trying for variety, just not all the time. I don't consider Ada super attractive or anything, she's D-Tier looks but she has a fantastic attitude, is a lot of fun, took good care of me. Service over looks. I'd repeat her. Looks aren't everything, even for me. But what I found is things fall off a cliff at E and F tiers. When I hunted HYA, I got B-Tier and up usually with an occasional C-Tier like a butherface with a fantastic young body that gets me rock hard. No problem there.
I must be easy because I like every single HYA as defined it's not even close. When Minji opened the door she was better than I expected since I always keep expectations low. Her body was just my type too. People tended agreed on that whether they liked her or not, she's body over face. Later writing reviews I realized there were mixed opinions on her face, we all get that happens, but I'm reminded again that I just have certain tastes that can't be conveyed. Many people agreed with me she was a cute HYA, but you can always see their hesitation in saying so. They give some variation of "I know some guys don't like her face, but I did" among other people saying she looks like some ordinary girl in Korea.
Look, I've been to Korea many times, all corners of it. I walked the streets and saw regular Koreans more than I saw the upper class. The average girl in Korea is f*g ugly, I'll just say what I saw with my two eyes every time I went. You'd have to be blind not to immediately notice that walking down any normal street. My friends called them 호박 because they had the deformities and value of a pumpkin. I know it's cruel but in Korea looks are all that matters, they would say out loud what I only dared to think. I have fond memories of roads less traveled. I remember going up some random mountain of Pusan off-trail and discovering make-shift farms the way people set up homeless encampments in the US. Yes when I went high end places in Seoul the average improved at least, not as much as you'd think. If you think average Korean girls are hot, I know why btw. You did the exact same thing I did where I immediately looked away from most women, then you set your eyes on the exception. Simple as that. Less attractive women in Korean know they are less attractive and don't give attitude like they aren't, they are solid people. Looks only should matter for personal attraction, I always treated less attractive women with great courtesy because more than any country SK is a looks based society. Meaning it matters beyond personal attraction in things like careers and how people treat you.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7159961]Their happy customers may still find them with new name through back channels. I said this years ago, many girls know guys like to see new girls. So it's obvious they think rebranding / new pics can bait in more unsuspecting customers. They won't care about your complaints as long as they keep the money and nobody out them.[/QUOTE]
It was a bit sad for me I could talk normally online with a girl until she rebranded. It wasn't her decision and she had to play along, so I let it be. With another girl I was on better terms with, she just didn't care and we went at it normally. She had no idea why she was rebranded, though in some cases the booker literally forgot the girl's old name and it's happened with multiple girls.
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Chivalry
I get what you are saying cause I still admire chivalry and have respect for older generations. I was a legit white knight and would just chuckle if somebody called me a simp. Walking out / not is a personal decision.
As someone who may see a "new" girl on her first day / hour, I could have gotten the brunt of the deception. Worse, they may rebrand to raise rate. I don't care about much until I feel like they "cock block" me from legit new HYAs. You don't hobby the same way I do, so I can understand if you can't help. Only bros who TOFTT can help each other if they choose to. I try to help bros like me when I can, but my hobby style is not conducive with detailed reviews.
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7158903]So uh, there's a big difference between some sloppy food, who no one cares about, and rejecting a hard-working young woman's sexual advances to her face because you don't like her. Especially when it was YOUR decision to see her in the first place.
It's just money, dude. A few pieces of paper that get more & more worthless every day. The girl is a human being. So, yes, I will spare her feelings and stay for the appointment. As I noted in my post, sometimes it works out. Sometimes the girl comes through. And sometimes she doesn't. That's just part of the game.
If the "average Joe" can't afford to handle a bad appointment every once in a while, this probably isn't the best hobby for him.[/QUOTE]
[s]Fool me once (with fake pics), shame on her.[/s]
[s]Fool me twice (with new name but same fake pics), shame on me.[/s]
[s]Fool me thrice (with new name AND new fake pics), shame on both of us.[/s]
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Milk = Soda
I think Milk / Soda had other names like "Omar" or something in the past.
[URL=https://playtwinkle.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=12&product_id=765](as Milk)[/URL] and [URL=https://playtwinkle.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=12&product_id=766](as Soda)[/URL] 5'4" 106 lbs DD cup.