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		[QUOTE=Kinosellis;4069716]Thanks for the info! She looks like a stripper more than ratchet. But, usually pics are better than in real life. But, I know what you mean with all the tattoos. I say stripper cause I've seen the booty injections and fake boob look a lot in southern florida. She's got a little belly stretch from having a baby left over.
 
 If we're spreading the radius out then I'd suggest for DaDaDa spa in Sewell, nj. Tina and Mimi are known for it. But, I know a number of their staff is bb friendly. But, they're older like 40's to 50's.
 
 I'll be honest I get paranoid about BBFS, so often it's more fantasy and curiosity than actively seeking it.[/QUOTE]I visit dddd weekly. Had Tina many times. I can't go back to covered service. I go limp.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=Fenfen;4068914]After further communication she wanted 800 for BBFS with multiple cip. So I not going to see her. Apparently 400 is a limited PSE menu and 800 if the full.[/QUOTE]I wrote her off as a complete waste of time a while ago. All I got in response to my trying to book a date when I was down in Philly was offers of sale of pics and videos and no actual info about booking a date, or availability or anything like that. From what I've heard so far, she'll probably take the 800 and then say "that doesn't cover everything" and then start nickel-and-diming you for more. 
 
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		[QUOTE=Trickster666;4069213]$1800 for a session with a 50 year old ex-porn star? Sounds reasonable. That's what I call money well spent.[/QUOTE]Some of the 20-year-olds are charging that too. It's all about what they think they are worth. Just like when they go in to sign a contract for a movie they ask for high rates for scenes too.
 
 Unless we're talking about someone specific, this is all just guesses, generalities and assumptions. Which may or may not be true.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=DrewBe;4069715]I'm going to have to go see her again then, because she's literally a younger, hotter, more involved version of Ashley Taylor. And she's actually in NYC not the meadowlands. Hell, I'd probably see Talia 2-3 x a week if BBFS were on the table. She's a great fuck even without it.[/QUOTE]Is there a link to an ad or website for Talia? 
 
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		[QUOTE=MrFrench;4070594]Some of the 20-year-olds are charging that too. It's all about what they think they are worth. Just like when they go in to sign a contract for a movie they ask for high rates for scenes too.
 
 Unless we're talking about someone specific, this is all just guesses, generalities and assumptions. Which may or may not be true.[/QUOTE]The 20 something year olds charge significantly more than that. Unless they like you and are willing to negotiate down. I've had one such experience with one whose identity I won't give away because she isn't even on regular birth control because she doesn't normally do BBFS and hates the "ride" of dealing with the pill.
 
 I managed to get a multi hour discount rate that you wouldn't even get with most 50 year olds.
 
 As you said, it really is subjective.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=MrFrench;4070604]Is there a link to an ad or website for Talia?[/QUOTE]Here you go. [URL]https://www.foxylists.com/talia[/URL].
 
 Very similar body type to Ashley Taylor. To be honest I'd actually say Talia is definitely hotter. She looks like she just fell off the cover of penthouse or playboy. Some people complain about her face, but I think she's quite pretty. She does have some "sharp" features though and her nose isn't the best. Kind of like a Russian version of sarah jessica parker in that halloween movie where she plays a witch. And for all the people here saying AT is not involved Talia is the opposite. She gets really into it and is a hell of a lot of fun, can get loud, might meow or make some cat noises, is more on the submissive side, etc.
 
 
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		Talia. 
		[QUOTE=DrewBe;4070759]Here you go. [URL]https://www.foxylists.com/talia[/URL].
 
 Very similar body type to Ashley Taylor. To be honest I'd actually say Talia is definitely hotter. She looks like she just fell off the cover of penthouse or playboy. Some people complain about her face, but I think she's quite pretty. She does have some "sharp" features though and her nose isn't the best. Kind of like a Russian version of sarah jessica parker in that halloween movie where she plays a witch. And for all the people here saying AT is not involved Talia is the opposite. She gets really into it and is a hell of a lot of fun, can get loud, might meow or make some cat noises, is more on the submissive side, etc.[/QUOTE]That's the former GC / diamonddesires number. I fucked her before. They were rumors at GC that she offered bareback. On my only meeting with her, I did not inquire.
 
 
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		Lily Taylor. 
		Hi,
 
 Seen a few ads for this girl and she looks super cute. Anyone know if she is BBFS friendly? She is up for Greek and CIM so curious.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=MrFrench;4070594]Some of the 20-year-olds are charging that too. It's all about what they think they are worth. Just like when they go in to sign a contract for a movie they ask for high rates for scenes too.
 
 Unless we're talking about someone specific, this is all just guesses, generalities and assumptions. Which may or may not be true.[/QUOTE]Bruh.
 
 Are you talking about Hollywood movie acting industry or porn.
 
 Because the first one you actually have to have talent.
 
 The latter anyone can do it.
 
 The days of pornstars making millions off porn are over.
 
 There will be no more Jenna Jameson's Lisa Ann's Ava Devine Sasha grey.
 
 The porn industry is very low paying now.
 
 They took a hit with the free porn and people not paying for porn anymore.
 
 Chicks in average are getting paid 800-1200 per scene.
 
 Some even less. There is no money in porn.
 
 These Thots are charging dudes 1500-2000 to fuck them because they know dudes jerk off to their vids.
 
 Fuxk out of here.
 
 
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		Outcall to Philly burbs? 
		Philly sucks and the burbs are even worse. Nothing here at all so was just wondering if any BBFS ladies from NY or NJ would be willing to come down. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. Looking for a sure thing great time. I've asked a couple of the well known ladies from NY and none were willing to drive down. Would love to see Ashley Taylor but the closest she gets is the Meadowlands and it's still really far for me. Feel free to pm me with any utr info or girls. 
 
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		1 photos Talia 
		That's the text messages I exchanged with her earlier today. From my understanding and past BBFS experiences, BBFS is in the yes column with the right price tag. 
 
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		[QUOTE=HinesKarlton;4071453]Bruh.
 
 Are you talking about Hollywood movie acting industry or porn.
 
 Because the first one you actually have to have talent.
 
 The latter anyone can do it.
 
 The days of pornstars making millions off porn are over.
 
 There will be no more Jenna Jameson's Lisa Ann's Ava Devine Sasha grey.
 
 The porn industry is very low paying now.
 
 They took a hit with the free porn and people not paying for porn anymore.
 
 Chicks in average are getting paid 800-1200 per scene.
 
 Some even less. There is no money in porn.
 
 These Thots are charging dudes 1500-2000 to fuck them because they know dudes jerk off to their vids.
 
 Fuxk out of here.[/QUOTE]Talking about girls that have appeared in Brazzers etc.
 
 Yes, there are definitely a lot fewer A-listers. But the ones that remain are still on TLC and Lourdes. And yes, eventually they'll get older and have to charge a lot less too.
 
 I've had situations where a semi-older, but well known and still fairly attractive pornstar or two tried to over charge me, to which my response was similar to yours: F*ck out of here (though I said it in a nicer way).
 
 You're right about the general trend, but I think it's going to take a while for the rest of the hobbying world to catch on and realize that they can get better deals.
 
 Also, when you're looking for BBFSCIP and other extras, it significantly narrows your options. So you're kinda stuck with whoever you're stuck with, unless you want to endlessly fish through a bunch of "no I don't do that". So far, I feel like the ratio I tend to see is about 10 to 1 (for every 10 or so providers I ask, 1 of them agrees). And you also run the risk of being blacklisted if you run into a provider or agent who doesn't like the fact that you asked for it. So, sometimes it's best not to try your luck too much.
 
 I've also seen that once you've seen a provider once, if they like you, they're more willing to give you a better rate sometimes significantly lower than what you've mentioned.
 
 But I'm pretty new to this anyway. Been only doing this for about a year, and I've only seen 8 porn stars so far. Maybe with more experience I'll get better at negotiating?
 
 
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		Lily Taylor 
		[QUOTE=Afjm9;4071423]Hi,
 
 Seen a few ads for this girl and she looks super cute. Anyone know if she is BBFS friendly? She is up for Greek and CIM so curious.[/QUOTE]There was a girl in NYC about 3-4 yrs ago with that name who had alot of positive reviews. Where did you find the ads?
 
 
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		[QUOTE=PaulRew;4066736]Anyone have a link to her?[/QUOTE]Is this Ingrid Johnson? Anyone dona do with her and gina? 
 
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		[QUOTE=DrewBe;4070759]Here you go. [URL]https://www.foxylists.com/talia[/URL].
 
 Very similar body type to Ashley Taylor. To be honest I'd actually say Talia is definitely hotter. She looks like she just fell off the cover of penthouse or playboy. Some people complain about her face, but I think she's quite pretty. She does have some "sharp" features though and her nose isn't the best. Kind of like a Russian version of sarah jessica parker in that halloween movie where she plays a witch. And for all the people here saying AT is not involved Talia is the opposite. She gets really into it and is a hell of a lot of fun, can get loud, might meow or make some cat noises, is more on the submissive side, etc.[/QUOTE]I don't know anyone more submissive than Ashley Taylor. .
 
 Does Talia do outcall or only incall? I'll be in Westchester soon and might want her to visit me.