Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[QUOTE=Dirk63;3357799]I would definitely not show up. Whatever her reasons for cancelling, she did let you know even if the notice was fairly short. Would you show up at the dentist if they cancelled your appointment? Remember, it's an appointment, not a date. It's business, like any other appointment. Showing up while she's with another client would be awkward for everyone, and a lot of these girls talk to each other. If you going to build a rep, don't build a bad one. Move on, book someone else and try her again some other time. Call in a favor for the short notice cancellation if you can.[/QUOTE]To add to this: Review her. There is a thread on BP forum where a member gave all his recent good reviews. A few days later he added the bad reviews. Members thanked him just as much for the follow up, saying that bad reviews are just as important as the good ones. But I think a 3 hour advance notice is reasonable and not the same as flaking out or going silent once you have traveled to her area. When that happens, we need to know. If you think it deserves a review, tell us about the appointment and the cancellation honestly, and others can judge if it affects their future choices. Maybe she does it a lot and more members will confirm. If not, her good reviews will over shadow an occational hick up.

For clarifying b / c your pronoun choices made it seems as though you were the one she bumped.

Need more details- was he threatening you? In your face? I'd just keep walking, maybe a half hearted apology. No need for drama.

Med.

[QUOTE=FrankenFurter;3357840]I explained this wrong. I was the "other client" the other fool confronted me. Me??[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FrankenFurter;3357840]I explained this wrong. I was the "other client" the other fool confronted me. Me??[/QUOTE]If you were the guy she cancelled another appointment so she could see you. You're good to go. Sounds like the other monger is the one with his feelings hurt. MegaWatt out!

[QUOTE=FrankenFurter;3357459]Guys, what would you do if you booked an appointment with a provider, she calls to cancel 2-3 hours prior. You show up anyway and see her with another client?[/QUOTE]Had you already paid? In all reality you should be thankful she cancelled and didn't leave you waiting in a parking lot. Even if you're regular there could be a lot of reasons for her seeing someone else. Maybe he wasn't exactly a client. Maybe he offered more. Maybe he was from out of town. At the end of the day our interactions with sex workers are not relationships (you don't outright pay for sex in a true relationship or at least the person gives you cash about as often as you give it to them). Our interactions are transactions and just that. If you're getting jealous or attached then it's likely time to find a new provider, meet women a different way or try to get an arrangement with her.

Not to sound overly harsh but what did you expect to gain by showing up?

[QUOTE=Dasalt;3357960]
And as for being fooled. 1: The woman in question is not fooling anyone. She admits freely to what her history is. 2: If someone who has had a MTF conversion done in the US in the last 20 years chose to not tell you, you would not know unless you were a damned gynecologist or just KNEW the details that can give it away. And occasionally even I have been fooled by patients that were of what we called 'ambiguous genitalia' at birth and had elected to have their anatomy altered to more fit a male or female identification. Children are born often with parts from both, missing a part or a combo of sort of parts that defies definition. Most often at a young age doctors and parents determine which way the anatomy is 'leaning' and what is more fitting for the child personality and proceed with surgery to move them more towards that 'leaning'.

So no, I do not think that having sex with a person who has undergone gender reassignment surgery makes you gay. It makes you brave at best or at least curious about the world at worst.[/QUOTE]Well said.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3358570]Had you already paid? In all reality you should be thankful she cancelled and didn't leave you waiting in a parking lot. Even if you're regular there could be a lot of reasons for her seeing someone else. Maybe he wasn't exactly a client. Maybe he offered more. Maybe he was from out of town. At the end of the day our interactions with sex workers are not relationships (you don't outright pay for sex in a true relationship or at least the person gives you cash about as often as you give it to them). Our interactions are transactions and just that. If you're getting jealous or attached then it's likely time to find a new provider, meet women a different way or try to get an arrangement with her.

Not to sound overly harsh but what did you expect to gain by showing up?[/QUOTE]Someone cancels I don't show up and thank them for canceling. Simple.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3358570]Had you already paid? In all reality you should be thankful she cancelled and didn't leave you waiting in a parking lot. Even if you're regular there could be a lot of reasons for her seeing someone else. Maybe he wasn't exactly a client. Maybe he offered more. Maybe he was from out of town. At the end of the day our interactions with sex workers are not relationships (you don't outright pay for sex in a true relationship or at least the person gives you cash about as often as you give it to them). Our interactions are transactions and just that. If you're getting jealous or attached then it's likely time to find a new provider, meet women a different way or try to get an arrangement with her.

Not to sound overly harsh but what did you expect to gain by showing up?[/QUOTE]Unless this provider is working out if her residence what kind of amateur gives you her location and room number 2-3 hours prior?

Red flags.

We should all have compassion for those born with both genetilia and requiring assignment surgery or choosing motor assign but keeping both. The question was not the complicated on you posed though. Nothing wrong with any kink concerning adults want to take on. Sex with a TS is something someone likes and may have another term. But surgically changing a man does not make sex with another man heterosexual.

[QUOTE=Dasalt;3357960]There is a difference between a dude with tits and a transgendered person who has gone through the complete process of becoming the other sex. Including an operation (or many operations) to 'change' their gender assigned sexual organs into an approximation of their currently identified gender's sexual organs.

I have to admit, I have never had relations with someone in this situation, but in a previous life as a surgical nurse I have assisted with the operations to do both MTF and FTM conversions and if they are willing to go through the screening, preparation, pain and recovery from such, then they deserve the respect from anyone else to identify as what ever they choose.

And as for being fooled. 1: The woman in question is not fooling anyone. She admits freely to what her history is. 2: If someone who has had a MTF conversion done in the US in the last 20 years chose to not tell you, you would not know unless you were a damned gynecologist or just KNEW the details that can give it away. And occasionally even I have been fooled by patients that were of what we called 'ambiguous genitalia' at birth and had elected to have their anatomy altered to more fit a male or female identification. Children are born often with parts from both, missing a part or a combo of sort of parts that defies definition. Most often at a young age doctors and parents determine which way the anatomy is 'leaning' and what is more fitting for the child personality and proceed with surgery to move them more towards that 'leaning'.

So no, I do not think that having sex with a person who has undergone gender reassignment surgery makes you gay. It makes you brave at best or at least curious about the world at worst.[/QUOTE]

So he confronted you and.

[QUOTE=FrankenFurter;3357840]I explained this wrong. I was the "other client" the other fool confronted me. Me??[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dsrtp1;3359918]Unless this provider is working out if her residence what kind of amateur gives you her location and room number 2-3 hours prior?

Red flags.[/QUOTE]He may have been a repeat. Also when I prebook I usually want the hotel address doesn't matter if it's 1 hour or 1 day in advance if you can't give me that info then I know you're not serious.

IMO there's no reason for any sex worker who doesn't have a drug problem to be staying at certain hotels. In addition to it not really being much cheaper better hotels put most guys at ease and helps to justify price point. I had a chick today say she was staying at the ABVI near Crabtree. I've got nothing against that hotel but given the other options around there choosing that one says something about the provider. It also makes me question her 200/300 price point.

On my list of no gos are:

Any ABVI (they tend to attract shady people and most are run down).

Motel 6 (still haven't found a clean one lately).

City Studios.

Roadway Inn.

Like all people I make exceptions but usually I've found nothing but shadyness in the aforementioend hotels. Even when I've had a good time I've never felt easy walking to or from my car.

Posted about a visit on cap- at one of the brands you mention- ghetto rats every where. She was probably top 3 prettiest Asian I have visited but I won't be back. I let the scheduler know but suhe is still there. Asking same $ as girls at nicer places.

I think one problem is that the high volume girls draw the attention of the hotel workers much more easily at the nicer places, especially with an indoor only entrance. I've definitely gotten the stink eye from grandma working the evening shift at a place on new bern- I think she thought she works at a nicer place than it was in reality.

Med.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3361313]IMO there's no reason for any sex worker who doesn't have a drug problem to be staying at certain hotels. In addition to it not really being much cheaper better hotels put most guys at ease and helps to justify price point. I had a chick today say she was staying at the ABVI near Crabtree. I've got nothing against that hotel but given the other options around there choosing that one says something about the provider. It also makes me question her 200/300 price point.

On my list of no gos are:

Any ABVI (they tend to attract shady people and most are run down).

Motel 6 (still haven't found a clean one lately).

City Studios.

Roadway Inn.

Like all people I make exceptions but usually I've found nothing but shadyness in the aforementioend hotels. Even when I've had a good time I've never felt easy walking to or from my car.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dasalt;3357960]There is a difference between a dude with tits and a transgendered person who has gone through the complete process of becoming the other sex. Including an operation (or many operations) to 'change' their gender assigned sexual organs into an approximation of their currently identified gender's sexual organs.

I have to admit, I have never had relations with someone in this situation, but in a previous life as a surgical nurse I have assisted with the operations to do both MTF and FTM conversions and if they are willing to go through the screening, preparation, pain and recovery from such, then they deserve the respect from anyone else to identify as what ever they choose.

And as for being fooled. 1: The woman in question is not fooling anyone. She admits freely to what her history is. 2: If someone who has had a MTF conversion done in the US in the last 20 years chose to not tell you, you would not know unless you were a damned gynecologist or just KNEW the details that can give it away. And occasionally even I have been fooled by patients that were of what we called 'ambiguous genitalia' at birth and had elected to have their anatomy altered to more fit a male or female identification. Children are born often with parts from both, missing a part or a combo of sort of parts that defies definition. Most often at a young age doctors and parents determine which way the anatomy is 'leaning' and what is more fitting for the child personality and proceed with surgery to move them more towards that 'leaning'.

So no, I do not think that having sex with a person who has undergone gender reassignment surgery makes you gay. It makes you brave at best or at least curious about the world at worst.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChaphillMan;3360203]We should all have compassion for those born with both genetilia and requiring assignment surgery or choosing motor assign but keeping both. The question was not the complicated on you posed though. Nothing wrong with any kink concerning adults want to take on. Sex with a TS is something someone likes and may have another term. But surgically changing a man does not make sex with another man heterosexual.[/QUOTE]Dasalt, if you followed the comments of gay or no gay there was no disrespect just an opinion of whether a person was or was not. Individuals who look in any escort section are looking for a woman. Not a man dressed as a woman or a man who has fake tits but still has a penis. I will also take it a step further and say that most men who are looking for a woman in an escort section are looking for a female who was born a female. This was the reason for my post because there are instances where an hobyist calls an ad and commits to an arrangement; he does it with the assumption that the meeting is with a female. A female who was born a female and not a man re-designed to look like a female. In this hobby you come across all types of people to include some people who pose as women with no intentions of being honest about who they really are because (1) he wants your dick and (2) he wants some cash. This is false advertisement and a conscious attempt to mislead for selfish reasons. This also serious business because some people have ended up dead because the provider was not straight forward in the beginning. A hobbyist's manhood or the provider's self-worth can turn violent because both strongly believe in the position they stand on.

Now if a person has sex with someone who has undergone gender reassignment surgery does that make them gay? I say the answer is yes. You can not change the female or male identification chromosome or all the other differences that make a male a male or a female a female just by surgically switching some body parts. If Purple45 believes he is Superman and he looks like Superman and he jumps from a 50 story building; will he fly? Some people can identify with whomever they want to see themselves as but whether right or wrong they shouldn't force others to accept their view to justify their individual decision or to make themselves feel better.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3362245]Dasalt, if you followed the comments of gay or no gay there was no disrespect just an opinion of whether a person was or was not. Individuals who look in any escort section are looking for a woman. Not a man dressed as a woman or a man who has fake tits but still has a penis. I will also take it a step further and say that most men who are looking for a woman in an escort section are looking for a female who was born a female. This was the reason for my post because there are instances where an hobyist calls an ad and commits to an arrangement; he does it with the assumption that the meeting is with a female. A female who was born a female and not a man re-designed to look like a female. In this hobby you come across all types of people to include some people who pose as women with no intentions of being honest about who they really are because (1) he wants your dick and (2) he wants some cash. This is false advertisement and a conscious attempt to mislead for selfish reasons. This also serious business because some people have ended up dead because the provider was not straight forward in the beginning. A hobbyist's manhood or the provider's self-worth can turn violent because both strongly believe in the position they stand on.

Now if a person has sex with someone who has undergone gender reassignment surgery does that make them gay? I say the answer is yes. You can not change the female or male identification chromosome or all the other differences that make a male a male or a female a female just by surgically switching some body parts. If Purple45 believes he is Superman and he looks like Superman and he jumps from a 50 story building; will he fly? Some people can identify with whomever they want to see themselves as but whether right or wrong they shouldn't force others to accept their view to justify their individual decision or to make themselves feel better.[/QUOTE]It's still an apple if you remove the stem.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3362245]Dasalt, if you followed the comments of gay or no gay there was no disrespect just an opinion of whether a person was or was not. Individuals who look in any escort section are looking for a woman. Not a man dressed as a woman or a man who has fake tits but still has a penis. I will also take it a step further and say that most men who are looking for a woman in an escort section are looking for a female who was born a female. This was the reason for my post because there are instances where an hobyist calls an ad and commits to an arrangement; he does it with the assumption that the meeting is with a female. A female who was born a female and not a man re-designed to look like a female. In this hobby you come across all types of people to include some people who pose as women with no intentions of being honest about who they really are because (1) he wants your dick and (2) he wants some cash. This is false advertisement and a conscious attempt to mislead for selfish reasons. This also serious business because some people have ended up dead because the provider was not straight forward in the beginning. A hobbyist's manhood or the provider's self-worth can turn violent because both strongly believe in the position they stand on.

Now if a person has sex with someone who has undergone gender reassignment surgery does that make them gay? I say the answer is yes. You can not change the female or male identification chromosome or all the other differences that make a male a male or a female a female just by surgically switching some body parts. If Purple45 believes he is Superman and he looks like Superman and he jumps from a 50 story building; will he fly? Some people can identify with whomever they want to see themselves as but whether right or wrong they shouldn't force others to accept their view to justify their individual decision or to make themselves feel better.[/QUOTE]What if a man has sex with someone who has undergone sexual reassignment surgery and doesn't know they weren't born as a woman? Does it still make that person gay? How do you know that you've never had sex with someone who has undergone that surgery? There are many out there where not even I could tell the difference.