"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Machintosh;5605849]Its quite possible they are banning based on the referral from the web logs. They see you clicking the link on the forum and associate this site to your profile as your logged in on SA as well. To be more invisible you should copy and paste the links to a new window / tab.
*Tips up foil hat*

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer[/QUOTE]I appreciate the advice. Really brother but I'm already banned LOL. Wondering if anyone knows of a better site? Sa has shitty service and clearly has ripped a lot of us off.

Any of you guys have info or experience with this woman. She goes by Brainsbeauty 13, she's definitely DTF, told me she wants 300 for fun. I may toftt, she really ain't my type but sometimes you have to try something different, she sent me a pic of here ass alot of cushion for someone who likes that.

[QUOTE=VirgilToole;5608427]I have not been banned; however, when I logged in today on an incognito Chrome window, the site required a verification code to be sent to the email address I registered with. I always use an incognito window on Chrome to access the site, and I have never before been required to enter a verification code.

Once I got into my account, I double-checked, and two-factor authentication has been turned off since I made the account, and it is still disabled.

I thought it might be because I tried to go to the site initially from a link in this thread, but after I cleared cookies, quit Chrome completely, and typed the URL (not a link to a member profile copied from here, but just the URL for the home page) directly into a new incognito window, it still required a verification code from my email.

So they're definitely increasing security. I'm not a computer guy, so I'm not sure if it's site-wide for all members or just for people whose accounts have been flagged as accessing the site from links on this forum. Thankfully, I let my premium membership lapse, but if I were currently a paying member, I would be a bit worried, because as far as I know, they don't offer refunds or a prorated subscription once you're banned.[/QUOTE]I'm seeing the same thing regarding two factor authentication, and like you I only view the site in an private window. Technically you could view the site on a normal window and it would likely put a cookie in your browsing history to confirm you've 2 factor authenticated and probably not force you to do it for 60 or 90 days, but I'd rather deal with the extra inconvenience than have it show up in my browser history.

I've had my account going for almost 2 months and no issues regarding bans, but I never discuss anything related to $ or arrangements on the site, and I don't piss the girls off if I think they are being dumb or scamming. Just block and move on. I have a sneaking suspicion people who get blocked a lot are either using payment methods that decline or are not being careful enough in their messages and talking too many details, or being rude when you discover a scammer. Keep in mind you can be banned for "excessive rudeness" so it's not worth the hassle to chew some scammer or dumb girl out and lose your $100 for the month. Block and move on.

[QUOTE=VirgilToole;5608468]Excellent summary. This is a great description of the "Hoerarchy".

To make the list more comprehensive, would you lump streetwalkers with the listcrawler girls, or would you make a separate category for them? I've never hired a streetwalker or listcrawler girl, so I don't know if there's a difference in quality between them. Would streetwalkers be the new number 1, making listcrawler number 2 and moving everything else up, or would they be 1. 5?

Also, how would you list apartment massage / body rub girls? As another 2. 5? Many of them have the looks, cleanliness, and professionalism of an Eros / higher-end girl, but their services are more limited until you establish a repartee and trust with them.

And on the topic of massages, where should massage parlors fall on the list? I'm sure it varies by city, because looking around this forum, it seems that Texas and California have much better options in their parlors than we do here in Atlanta.[/QUOTE]I actually forgot about streetwalkers because I have less than zero interest in them, but they would be be at the bottom of the hoerarchy, below even LC girls. So yes, it would push everything in the hoerarchy up once we include them. And yeah, massage girls were an oversight as well, but I have seen and enjoyed them. Massage girls almost deserve their own category, because sometimes their service is worse than an LC girl (same attitude but no actual fucking), where as others I've had be better and more enjoyable than a decent Eros girl and do everything except FS. I also realized I didn't include agency girls, so I'll throw them in as well. Here's how I would update the list:

1) Streetwalkers.

2) Listcrawler / STG QV Girls.

3) AMPs & Indie Massage Girls.

4) Eros / tryst etc.

4.5) Strippers.

5) SA.

6) Agency girls.

7) High end & porn stars.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5609924]I'm seeing the same thing regarding two factor authentication, and like you I only view the site in an private window. Technically you could view the site on a normal window and it would likely put a cookie in your browsing history to confirm you've 2 factor authenticated and probably not force you to do it for 60 or 90 days, but I'd rather deal with the extra inconvenience than have it show up in my browser history.[/QUOTE]I'm getting the same message but receive no email verification code in either regular or spam. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5609934]I actually forgot about streetwalkers because I have less than zero interest in them, but they would be be at the bottom of the hoerarchy, below even LC girls. So yes, it would push everything in the hoerarchy up once we include them. And yeah, massage girls were an oversight as well, but I have seen and enjoyed them. Massage girls almost deserve their own category, because sometimes their service is worse than an LC girl (same attitude but no actual fucking), where as others I've had be better and more enjoyable than a decent Eros girl and do everything except FS. I also realized I didn't include agency girls, so I'll throw them in as well. Here's how I would update the list:

1) Streetwalkers.

2) Listcrawler / STG QV Girls.

3) AMPs & Indie Massage Girls.

4) Eros / tryst etc.

4.5) Strippers.

5) SA.

6) Agency girls.

7) High end & porn stars.[/QUOTE]Even with all of the hassle, I'd put SA at the top of the list. I've barebacked over 30 hot UTR 20 somethings from the site.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;5610561]Even with all of the hassle, I'd put SA at the top of the list. I've barebacked over 30 hot UTR 20 somethings from the site.[/QUOTE]I can see where you're coming from, and part of me kinda wants to, but the amount of effort SA girls require (on average) vs an agency or pornstar is why I put it lower. Yes, you can find a supermodel on SA, but she's still going to fuck you for close to that agency / high end pricing, but, at least in my experience, a lot more effort to flirt and text.

It's not a scientific scale, but the ranking is some combination of value relative to looks and effort. And of course there are outliers. One of my ATFs (Amber Luv for those that knew her) was a BP / LC girl. But I've only found quality like that 1 time in the sewer that is LC / STG. And this board is full of bad experiences from Eros / Tryst girls, so again, it's not an exact measurement, just an average expectation given my experience.

[QUOTE=MagicRat;5610044]I'm getting the same message but receive no email verification code in either regular or spam. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]I used a throwaway gmail account to sign up, and the code showed up in my "Promotions" tab.

[QUOTE=VirgilToole;5611708]I used a throwaway gmail account to sign up, and the code showed up in my "Promotions" tab.[/QUOTE]I get them to, I have to hit "send again" and it shows up in my inbox in seconds. I use a proton. Mail account for the hobby. Decided to switch to phone text notification and same thing, hit "send again".

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;5610561]Even with all of the hassle, I'd put SA at the top of the list. I've barebacked over 30 hot UTR 20 somethings from the site.[/QUOTE]Although the BS level with SA has gone thru the roof lately, I can honestly say some of the most talented women I've met were from there. The entire hobby has been challenging the last two years, but hopefully will return to better days soon. I was talking with a girlfriend of mine just a few days ago about the honest sexual encounters we'd ever had, and of the top five for me, four were with women I'd met on SA. Imagine that. Of course those four were from a few years back when SA was still mostly non-pro and non-scammer. There used to be a pool of recently divorced or neglected wife talent that truly wanted a four hour fuckathon and only expected a guy to have the means for a nice hotel or a nice meal etc. Now that SA is essentially flooded by thiefs and hos, I wonder where those horny 30 year old women have gone to get some good dick.

This one known as a flake, it too months an messages from all my three profilles for finally get a response and phone number from her, she seemed very willing to meet, very open to discuss the terms and the allowance, but when the day came texted for confirmation, she said she was up fom meet but when trying to set the place and time I never heard from her again.

Definitely a semi pro Pro ,5 x $ pee meet no negotiation.

[QUOTE=JustMikey;5612758]...... I wonder where those horny 30 year old women have gone to get some good dick.[/QUOTE]Great question, when you find out let me know.

I want to go where they went LOL.

[QUOTE=AircraftFZ10;5613675]This one known as a flake, it too months an messages from all my three profilles for finally get a response and phone number from her, she seemed very willing to meet, very open to discuss the terms and the allowance, but when the day came texted for confirmation, she said she was up fom meet but when trying to set the place and time I never heard from her again.[/QUOTE]I remember she was semi difficult at first to get schedule. But when you do. Tons of fun! One of the few providers that got me to a second pop.

[QUOTE=AircraftFZ10;5613675]This one known as a flake, it too months an messages from all my three profilles for finally get a response and phone number from her, she seemed very willing to meet, very open to discuss the terms and the allowance, but when the day came texted for confirmation, she said she was up fom meet but when trying to set the place and time I never heard from her again.[/QUOTE]I met with this one (review written on here as well). She traveled from her location to me in Suwanee during rush hour evening traffic and sent text messages along the way. All holes open bareback, allowing me to drill the anal hole where I finished. I have yet to repeat, but I had no problems with her ghosting me.