"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Kusto;5605105][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cec3d253-482a-4f34-ab20-69c6d5c7e2ef[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/95ee50f3-5478-49b9-9025-e2e7072b6c18[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af9d71ac-757f-4bc0-9bdd-8880f963cfbc[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8394ce33-f0a8-485e-bd81-3ac7a90ed84f[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/364f3f94-cd81-4d72-aa84-e05a467ae480[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7dcd131f-5752-46b0-a16a-445d7a8942b2[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4a9dc471-58b2-4285-ac17-16512e1ea090[/URL][/QUOTE]Whats the problem?

Texted her yesterday and got a response almost immediately. Asked her about appointments for same day but the available time doesn't work for me so met with her today. She looks same as the pics. Started off as usual and went for like 20 min and asked me to flip. She is not really comfortable if you roam without her permission. I touched her boobs and she was like did you ask for my consent. I was like WTF! It was turnoff from that point on. Finished with the standard finish. 1 hr $$. Will not repeat.

[URL]https://atlanta.rubratings.com/226818[/URL]

[QUOTE=LDSlanger;5605372]I've been banned in the past on seeking for no reason but they've usually fixed the mistake. Thought I was doing something wrong till reading you guy's experiences. But yesterday I decided to give it a try again and was banned soon as I was submitting payment. I don't think I was charged. I'm over this scam site, anyone have a better site for SB situations than SA or Secret Benefits? SA is solid minus the random banning, anything better at all for suggestions?[/QUOTE]Duuuuuuuude I just got fawkin banned and I'm NOT active. I was lurking and sending likes. BOOOM I'm banned.

[QUOTE=Kusto;5605803]Duuuuuuuude I just got fawkin banned and I'm NOT active. I was lurking and sending likes. BOOOM I'm banned.[/QUOTE]Its quite possible they are banning based on the referral from the web logs. They see you clicking the link on the forum and associate this site to your profile as your logged in on SA as well. To be more invisible you should copy and paste the links to a new window / tab.
*Tips up foil hat*

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer

[QUOTE=Kusto;5605009]Wow she's a IG friend.[/QUOTE]Check your inbox.

That's the vibe I'm trying to avoid. Last time out I sampled 5 SBs in a month, all of them twice, never paid more than 250, was never asked for payment in advance, every one CIP, 2 were overnights and one was all weekend. Locust Grove, Milledgeville, Waycross, Statesboro and Ashville. Youngest 23, oldest 42. I always engage in extended texting, like 3 or 4 days before suggesting m / g. The flakes and scammers lose interest before we get that far. Out of that cycle, only had 1 flake and only 1 other didn't lead to the fc. She had some serious daddy issues but a smoking body, so I met up with her several times for dinner and back to her apartment before giving up.

[QUOTE=TKeen365;5605743]Texted her yesterday and got a response almost immediately. Asked her about appointments for same day but the available time doesn't work for me so met with her today. She looks same as the pics. Started off as usual and went for like 20 min and asked me to flip. She is not really comfortable if you roam without her permission. I touched her boobs and she was like did you ask for my consent. I was like WTF! It was turnoff from that point on. Finished with the standard finish. 1 hr $$. Will not repeat.

[URL]https://atlanta.rubratings.com/226818[/URL][/QUOTE]

It takes a minute, but instead of posting the link, post a screenshot of the SA profile. That way we aren't all blowing up her profile at the same time. I keep SA open in a regular FF while USASG is open in a private window. I've been told that keeps one web site from sniffing out the other. Anyone know for sure?

[QUOTE=Machintosh;5605849]Its quite possible they are banning based on the referral from the web logs. They see you clicking the link on the forum and associate this site to your profile as your logged in on SA as well. To be more invisible you should copy and paste the links to a new window / tab.
*Tips up foil hat*

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75c13624-419c-45ed-922f-98f2503441fd[/URL]

This was a strange experience. This girl messaged me, and couldn't have been sweeter over messages, then quickly over text. She was interested in meeting, and was completely flexible with me while I navigated some personal scheduling issues. Met her in person on Sunday for a late lunch. Her pictures are totally accurate, and she is as sweet as sweet can be.

She claims she's an RN, but I'm skeptical as I know a thing or three about medicine, and she clueless. Flag #1. She claimed to have lived in the area for three years, yet couldn't answer simple questions about the area #2. I bought her lunch, and did my best to make conversation, but she is from Nairobi and although she is quite fluent in English, she was extremely soft spoken and I'm told that is a cultural thing, so no problem there. I wasn't planning on pressing the gas and taking things further, so I walked her to her car, and thanked her for coming out, and kissed her goodbye. All good right?

Well 30 minutes later, I get a text from her that is worded completely differently from every other text she sent previously. The text said, that she was now expecting me to send her payment for "her time" coming to lunch. I told her to get bent, and she was barking up the wrong tree with me. I will not be attempting to see her again. If you're considering meeting up with her, you now have more information than you did before.

Stay Frosty.

No matter what, I just can't seem to search for babies by their profile names. Always recent with a no matches found message.

I've try various combinations.

Profile_name*.

Profile_name%.

%profile_name%.

*profile_name*.

What's the secret? What am I missing?

[QUOTE=Kusto;5605105][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cec3d253-482a-4f34-ab20-69c6d5c7e2ef[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/95ee50f3-5478-49b9-9025-e2e7072b6c18[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af9d71ac-757f-4bc0-9bdd-8880f963cfbc[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8394ce33-f0a8-485e-bd81-3ac7a90ed84f[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/364f3f94-cd81-4d72-aa84-e05a467ae480[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7dcd131f-5752-46b0-a16a-445d7a8942b2[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4a9dc471-58b2-4285-ac17-16512e1ea090[/URL][/QUOTE]So, your contribution here is to look at these ads and make fun of the posters because you don't find them attractive? What are we doing here? This doesn't help anyone.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;5606815]No matter what, I just can't seem to search for babies by their profile names. Always recent with a no matches found message.

I've try various combinations.

Profile_name*.

Profile_name%.

%profile_name%.

*profile_name*.

What's the secret? What am I missing?[/QUOTE]Profile names are not unique. The url is based on membership ID. The secret is Control / Command F. Now if only there's a away to show more results on the screen (huge hint).

Anyone have any information on this one? The most I can do is create a temp account on SA they keep banning me when I put in my name and credit cards.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/98d3a628-9b00-45f3-abc5-32be546e8cdb[/URL]

[QUOTE=HollowGuy;5607845]Anyone have any information on this one? The most I can do is create a temp account on SA they keep banning me when I put in my name and credit cards.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/98d3a628-9b00-45f3-abc5-32be546e8cdb[/URL][/QUOTE]She's probably real, but I'm guessing a semi-pro or UTR, or one of those girls who believes everything she sees from TikTok influencers about the "sugar lifestyle. " If you have the budget she's probably fun, but she's going to want a high $ monthly or weekly allowance with gifts on top of it.

I've personally decided there's a bit of a ho-e hierarchy. From bottom to top:

1) Listcrawler / STG QV Girls: Used to be the $60 range, probably now $100 post COVID because reasons. Unreliable, you will waste a lot of time with no shows and flakes, so even though when you finally get a BJ for $80 it cost you more than that in wasted time and gas on the flakes. The very occasional diamond in the rough, these are druggies, usually pimped out, bad hygiene, and older / washed up girls. You get what you pay for, and the experience will be subpar, a lot of CBJ and the occasional BBJ. Arguably a fleshlight is better. I don't waste my time or money here anymore, but for a lot of guys, this is their bread and butter. Easy to get BBFS with a little effort and extra $ since they are desperate for their next fix, but you're quite literally playing with fire.

2) Eros / tryst etc: There are few "higher tier" sites, these are just 2. Used to be a lot of value here for around $200, but recently things here have gone up in price to minimum $300. Depending on the girl you're likely spending $300 - $500 for an hour. There is some real talent here, but a lot delusional girls who think just because they are hotter than the LC girls they can charge a premium and be a dead fish. Try to confirm in reviews here or somewhere else their menu. I do expect GFE in this tier (kissing, BBJ, multiple pops) but as guys "settle" for mediocre experiences it's becoming less and less common for a reasonable price point. This used to be where I focused my efforts. If you treat most of the girls here with just an ounce of respect I've found no-charge upgrades or extra time to be a non-issue, but as always YMMV. If you become a regular you will often end up BBFS as you develop trust.

2.5) Strippers: Stripper hotness varies but if you know what you like and don't settle you'll find what you're looking for. Also in the $300 - $500 range, but you'll almost always need to pay for a hotel room initially until they are comfortable hosting. Service skews GFE, but strippers are hustlers, and will always have their hand out. If you let them they will bleed you and string you along. As long as you're firm and dealing only in cash in person, you can avoid a lot of this. Strippers come with their own share of drama and flakiness. In my experience they are more flaky than the Eros / Tryst girls, but also don't normally have a clock going once their with you. If you have a little game, you can get into what Ozymandias once called the "hoe-network" and they'll introduce you to other girls they are friends with who need a little financial help, particularly towards the end of the month when rent comes due. I've always got BBJ when OTC, so that's my expectation, especially at this price range.

3) SA: Where I spend most of my effort. There is more time spent weeding out scammers and content sellers, but if you stay realistic with your expectations, you can have a damn good time for $150 - $200. Find the right girl, and you can get even better value. Patience is key, as most of these girls want to be charmed. You can occasionally find yourself smashing the same day you first text them, but expect to more often than not to flirt and talk via text for at least a couple of days, possibly longer. Of course, the upper limit on SA is infinite, so if you have the money you can smash super model quality on the regular, but I focus on the girl-next-door / single mom demo to get the most bang for my buck. In addition to the cash, you will oftentimes be paying for dinner / coffee and a hotel room until you get them comfortable enough to host, which may be never. Service is always GFE with the occasional semi-pro or UTR, but you learn to spot those pretty quickly. A good semi-pro girl on SA can be a good time, and I haven't had a single encounter where a CBJ was even thought about.

4) High end & porn stars: For the guys with executive salaries or maybe the rare special treat for yourself. You're looking at $500 on the low end up to $1500 or $2 K for a meet up, but things should be full GFE and if you have recent test results you can often times negotiate BBFS.

Of course there are subcategories catering to specific fetishes but this is how I pretty broadily categorizes working girls.

I have not been banned; however, when I logged in today on an incognito Chrome window, the site required a verification code to be sent to the email address I registered with. I always use an incognito window on Chrome to access the site, and I have never before been required to enter a verification code.

Once I got into my account, I double-checked, and two-factor authentication has been turned off since I made the account, and it is still disabled.

I thought it might be because I tried to go to the site initially from a link in this thread, but after I cleared cookies, quit Chrome completely, and typed the URL (not a link to a member profile copied from here, but just the URL for the home page) directly into a new incognito window, it still required a verification code from my email.

So they're definitely increasing security. I'm not a computer guy, so I'm not sure if it's site-wide for all members or just for people whose accounts have been flagged as accessing the site from links on this forum. Thankfully, I let my premium membership lapse, but if I were currently a paying member, I would be a bit worried, because as far as I know, they don't offer refunds or a prorated subscription once you're banned.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5608290]

I've personally decided there's a bit of a ho-e hierarchy. From bottom to top:

1) Listcrawler / STG QV Girls
2) Eros / tryst etc
2.5) Strippers
3) SA
4) High end & porn stars

Of course there are subcategories catering to specific fetishes but this is how I pretty broadly categorizes working girls.[/QUOTE]Excellent summary. This is a great description of the "Hoerarchy".

To make the list more comprehensive, would you lump streetwalkers with the listcrawler girls, or would you make a separate category for them? I've never hired a streetwalker or listcrawler girl, so I don't know if there's a difference in quality between them. Would streetwalkers be the new number 1, making listcrawler number 2 and moving everything else up, or would they be 1. 5?

Also, how would you list apartment massage / body rub girls? As another 2. 5? Many of them have the looks, cleanliness, and professionalism of an Eros / higher-end girl, but their services are more limited until you establish a repartee and trust with them.

And on the topic of massages, where should massage parlors fall on the list? I'm sure it varies by city, because looking around this forum, it seems that Texas and California have much better options in their parlors than we do here in Atlanta.