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The entitlement and lack of effort from women these days is just unmatched. I don't understand how it got this bad. I never had that mentality. I always wanted to work hard and give back as much as I could. I gain satisfaction out of providing value to others and trying my best. These women are really something else.
[QUOTE=StevenWalker;6896963]The entitlement and lack of effort from women these days is just unmatched. I don't understand how it got this bad. I never had that mentality. I always wanted to work hard and give back as much as I could. I gain satisfaction out of providing value to others and trying my best. These women are really something else.[/QUOTE]Feminism and things like the Me Too movement have caused that. But also I've also seen the younger generation including guys and girls have a sense of entitlement. I'm Gen X and grew up with hard working parents that immigrated to this country from Central America. Granted I did do some stupid shit here and there when I was young being born and raised in LA. But seeing my parents work hard and also them doing their best to raise me. Made me appreciate a hard earned dollar and also get myself into college to earn my engineering degrees. These younger folk don't seem to appreciate a hard earned dollar because everything is handed to them now and alot don't get disciplined properly when they fuck up.
But back to females and where this rant is coming from. Frankly I don't see why pussy should be so expensive. Women give sex away all the time. Sometimes just for dinner or drinks and sometimes for nothing at all. It's not rocket science, as the old saying goes, to suck and fuck a dick. In my profession I'm actually working hard with my mind to solve engineering issues and design and that's why I get paid well. Fucking is not hard to do and when normally given away freely. Why be pretentious and snooty with GPS / PPS mentalities that fucking is something hard and be expected to get paid high dollars like you're working in a higher level profession. Sugaring is meant to provide some extra help to a girl. Not make it income like a regular job. If a girl is expecting it to be like regular income. Then she really isn't a sugarbaby anymore. She has now become a prostitute. A prostitute makes her living from selling her pussy fulltime.
Rice Goddess. Holty fuark.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6a2a562c-c101-4b45-9c20-d24d6e892082[/URL]
Guys please spam her with lowball offers so she accepts mine.
Help a brother out!
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6730268]Is there any young model in the 213 area code who you haven't banged?[/QUOTE]Like I said these hot young girls are still out there but if you think you will find them on this board, then you will be exceedingly disappointed.
Nah dude, the 213 has been completely gutted out and now drier than a nun's peepee hole. Only good for homeless chicks and dumpster diving. The best source of 18-19 girls be my backyard 949 or 714 area codes. And if you be willing to drive east like I do, the 951 and 909 also be a treasure trove and doable source for fresh young girls, esp if you love me some Latinas and chola baddies si Senor! Riv county is exploding in population growth just like real estate prices.
I frequently travel to LV, SD, and P.S. For my bidness so the entire IE is my pussy playground. The selection is overwhelming. Lots of young Mexican girls be living with parents or 20 yo single moms who also work as part time strippers or hoes. I don't mess with the Valleys. SGV is nothing but Asian poontang and the SFV has tons of white models and pornstars but the drive up the 5 or 405 be murder any time of the day. I be burning up my 401 K faster than I burn petrol and limited play time LOL.
One of my Latinas is an 18 yo living with parents in a large gated apartment complex in San Berdoo next to a Stater Bros where I park and watch her hot asf 105 pound body walk down the stairs through the front gate and into the passenger seat of daddy's car. Just a quickie drive to my hourly in Colton esta siempre where I proceed to destroy her tight holes without remorse, without mercy LOL. Oh papi it hurts! Just relax princess, it will stretch, just close your eyes and kiss me. Will post a few pics (no face) one of these days. Think Ariana Grande.
Speaking of my 949 babies, any of you grew up watching iCarly on Nick? Damn I used to have the biggest crush on Miranda Cosgrove. Now my 19 yo SB in OC looks just like her LOL. Some dreams do come true! Action shots below.
[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;6730191]This Brittney looks like my current blonde 19 yo SB.[/QUOTE]BTW.
[URL]https://www.truenakedyoga.com/[/URL]
Is the bomb.
How can we mine SBs there?
[QUOTE=StevenWalker;6897236]Rice Goddess. Holty fuark.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6a2a562c-c101-4b45-9c20-d24d6e892082[/URL]
Guys please spam her with lowball offers so she accepts mine.
Help a brother out![/QUOTE]What did you quote her and what was she asking?
[QUOTE=StevenWalker;6897236]Rice Goddess. Holty fuark.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6a2a562c-c101-4b45-9c20-d24d6e892082[/URL]
Guys please spam her with lowball offers so she accepts mine.
Help a brother out![/QUOTE]Part of the problem that has contributed to GPS / PPS is throwing offers right off the bat, alot of times silly high offers, to these girls right on the Seeking site. You really shouldn't be doing that for a few reasons. It contributes to a high number of dudes essentially doing a bidding war on a girl. Which alot of times the girl goes to the highest bidder. But not all the time. Sometimes a girl will go with a lower bidder if she likes him physically and / or how he negotiated aside from amount. Another reason is the site has rebranded itself as more of a dating site than an arrangement site. The creator of the site himself said this in the video he sent out when he found his forever baby. This actually was more of a response to the FOSTA act and the creator not wanting the site shut down for promoting sex in exchange for pay. That's why it's not called Seeking Arrangement anymore and just Seeking. So by offers being thrown right at the girl, guys that do that, are still treating the site as a sex for pay site. Which can get you kicked off the site for discussing the arrangement and how much you're paying.
Always take the discussion of amounts, negotiations and what a girl is open to sexually off the site. Once you get her away from all the sharks. You're free to negotiate better without pressure from other dudes bombarding her. In a more personal one on one conversation.
Another thing apart from that topic. Don't knock a girl down because she's homeless and / or an addict. They're not just found on the streets. I've occasionally had a girl on Seeking reveal that she's actually homeless and / or an addict. And that's why they're seeking some money help because they're in that situation. Some can be crashing in different friends pads, some in rehabilitation facilities and some in very homeless dire situations. And they range in age as young as 18 to mid / upper 20's. So nothing wrong in giving those girls a shot. I have and they've been some very cute / hot treasures and most of the time inexpensive.
The exchanges concerning BB, etc, got moved over to the Safe sex thread.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4227-Safe-Sex-Information-and-Advice&p=6896579[/URL]#post6896579.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6897802]BTW.
[URL]https://www.truenakedyoga.com/[/URL]
Is the bomb.
How can we mine SBs there?[/QUOTE]I won't say which one, since she isn't a provider, but I've fucked one of the girls from that site.
I saw her a couple years ago for a tantra massage. A legit massage, no sex. But I guess our chemistry was good because after our session she went in for a kiss and next thing I know I'm balls deep in her tight pussy.
[QUOTE=CoolGuy818;6898184]I won't say which one, since she isn't a provider, but I've fucked one of the girls from that site.
I saw her a couple years ago for a tantra massage. A legit massage, no sex. But I guess our chemistry was good because after our session she went in for a kiss and next thing I know I'm balls deep in her tight pussy.[/QUOTE]I am not even going to ask which one.
Seems like tantra massage is supposed to be about prolonging the enjoyment and edging. Was that the plan? Did you get the happy ending before she went for it?
I am in OC, you are likely in LA, so we won't compete.
Also, please empty some space in your inbox.
[URL]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vSgVjvdI8Qe5--d6PlbVxJx1ec1pRrrFx84k3BaEYSebj5-a8BKJyrsdvVM2Nqq3LStKPgT6Z9UvLsg/pubhtml?pli=1[/URL]
[QUOTE=Lexx1;6897061]Sugaring is meant to provide some extra help to a girl. Not make it income like a regular job. If a girl is expecting it to be like regular income. Then she really isn't a sugarbaby anymore. She has now become a prostitute. A prostitute makes her living from selling her pussy fulltime.[/QUOTE]This caused a ton of arguments back in the day or maybe not so long ago. Want to start a squabble just start saying non-pro in your posts. But to the guys that sugar as their mainstay, we all know what we prefer. Girls looking for a little extra income and a lot of adventure / new experiences / good sex.
My social life is very mundane and has been for a while but I still have a pro model that I live with that's run me 5 bills a month for the last 10 years on average (30 year old). An out of town civi girl that I see from time to time (23 year old) and full time local hoe that has been taking $ per date for the last 5 years (23 year old). Being forced to pay less is what gave me the skills to pay less. And I see a few girls out there that I could still get for $-$$ no problem if I had the extra scratch. But overall the prices are double what they were 5 years ago.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6898480]This caused a ton of arguments back in the day or maybe not so long ago. Want to start a squabble just start saying non-pro in your posts. But to the guys that sugar as their mainstay, we all know what we prefer. Girls looking for a little extra income and a lot of adventure / new experiences / good sex.
My social life is very mundane and has been for a while but I still have a pro model that I live with that's run me 5 bills a month for the last 10 years on average (30 year old). An out of town civi girl that I see from time to time (23 year old) and full time local hoe that has been taking $ per date for the last 5 years (23 year old). Being forced to pay less is what gave me the skills to pay less. And I see a few girls out there that I could still get for $-$$ no problem if I had the extra scratch. But overall the prices are double what they were 5 years ago.[/QUOTE]Of course man. As I posted in another thread. This isn't my first rodeo on this site. Just a new handle. I've known you for a long time and a couple of other guys like Christophe1 when we used to run game in the Non-pro thread many years ago on this site. My nonpro buddy was Bladerunner who was one of the mods on that thread. But alot of those guys arent around anymore. Before finding this site and getting into nonpros. I mainly was a street monger and visiting Asian / Latina massage joints and Asian / Latina houses.
This site introduced me to the nonpro game. Which like you said always caused arguments. Oh nonpros don't exist, blah, blah blah. Any woman that has never been paid directly for sex is a potential non-pro! Plain and simple as that. I dont know who coined the term but it fit. What else were we going to call it? The Virgin Prostitute game? lol They aren't some magical unicorn or anything else. But once a girl does get paid for sex. Then the term starts to become a gray area term. Just like the sugarbaby term. I know what the reality is. No need to blur the meaning of each term and candy coat it. But like you said some guys want to argue the opposite. We're all here paying for pussy bottom line. Sadly CL personals got shut down because of FOSTA. And the only game in town that was similar is sugaring. So when I make my posts on here I'm not trying to argue with anybody. I'm just trying to spit game and my knowledge from what I know, have experienced and seen from the gritty streets of street mongering, my other P4 P adventures, nonpros and then to sugaring.
[QUOTE=Traveler0;6897866]What did you quote her and what was she asking?[/QUOTE]She instantly blocked me after I message her LOL.
[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;6897696]Like I said these hot young girls are still out there but if you think you will find them on this board, then you will be exceedingly disappointed.
Nah dude, the 213 has been completely gutted out and now drier than a nun's peepee hole. Only good for homeless chicks and dumpster diving. The best source of 18-19 girls be my backyard 949 or 714 area codes. And if you be willing to drive east like I do, the 951 and 909 also be a treasure trove and doable source for fresh young girls, esp if you love me some Latinas and chola baddies si Senor! Riv county is exploding in population growth just like real estate prices.
I frequently travel to LV, SD, and P.S. For my bidness so the entire IE is my pussy playground. The selection is overwhelming. Lots of young Mexican girls be living with parents or 20 yo single moms who also work as part time strippers or hoes. I don't mess with the Valleys. SGV is nothing but Asian poontang and the SFV has tons of white models and pornstars but the drive up the 5 or 405 be murder any time of the day. I be burning up my 401 K faster than I burn petrol and limited play time LOL.
One of my Latinas is an 18 yo living with parents in a large gated apartment complex in San Berdoo next to a Stater Bros where I park and watch her hot asf 105 pound body walk down the stairs through the front gate and into the passenger seat of daddy's car. Just a quickie drive to my hourly in Colton esta siempre where I proceed to destroy her tight holes without remorse, without mercy LOL. Oh papi it hurts! Just relax princess, it will stretch, just close your eyes and kiss me. Will post a few pics (no face) one of these days. Think Ariana Grande.
Speaking of my 949 babies, any of you grew up watching iCarly on Nick? Damn I used to have the biggest crush on Miranda Cosgrove. Now my 19 yo SB in OC looks just like her LOL. Some dreams do come true! Action shots below.[/QUOTE]You have pretty good taste in pussy bro.